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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Steam => Topic started by: MOG8 on December 18, 2012, 05:32:13 pm

Title: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: MOG8 on December 18, 2012, 05:32:13 pm
LET THE PICTURES SPEAK:
(http://s9.postimage.org/paacgaqvv/cladding_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/paacgaqvv/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/mu8j2g8t7/Cladding_side_from_above.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mu8j2g8t7/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/kfgni0skb/credit_card_horizontal.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kfgni0skb/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/ue1m4i1zv/credit_card_vertical.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ue1m4i1zv/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/3u912d1gb/exhaust_end_cladding_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3u912d1gb/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/r9qy7pl7f/exhaust_end_valve_chest_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/r9qy7pl7f/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/3wxi2xuhn/inlet_end_bed_detail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3wxi2xuhn/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/hf4ef86mz/inlet_end_cladding_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hf4ef86mz/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/7kd9902or/inlet_end_valve_chest_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7kd9902or/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/om63b3hjv/Lay_shaft_side_detail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/om63b3hjv/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/8p7bedp5n/LP_to_HP_end_from_above.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8p7bedp5n/)


(http://s9.postimage.org/44l4zg5gb/steam_chest_side.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/44l4zg5gb/)
 
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: livesteam on December 19, 2012, 11:56:39 am
Giovanni, what a jewel! Do you now the engines specifications? When will it be available and to what costs?
Ciao!
Kaspar
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 19, 2012, 02:26:21 pm
 
 I don't know anything about steam engines.... but I do like  latté coffee!

   What's this bit?
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: Engineman on December 19, 2012, 08:25:59 pm
What a nice engine! Looking very common to Thornycroft torpedo boat engine.
(http://s9.postimage.org/5s6x4xwjv/IMG_1426.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5s6x4xwjv/)
A proper light weight boiler and a proper boat (torpedo boat) are required to complete the whole picture  ok2 .
 
Another implementation of the same idea - Wilesco engine which was 'dressed' to look like Thornycroft torpedo boat/fast steam yacht engine.
(http://s2.postimage.org/jtoln9245/steam_engine_wilesco_10.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jtoln9245/)
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: Engineman on December 19, 2012, 08:27:50 pm
What's this bit?

This bit is (no doubt) a displacement lubricator which is integrated into the cylinder block of the engine.
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: MOG8 on December 20, 2012, 09:01:37 am
Giovanni, what a jewel! Do you now the engines specifications? When will it be available and to what costs?
Ciao!
Kaspar


There are no specifications available so far, but they should not be far away from those of the old PB2.
Yes, the lubricator is in the middle of the cylinders block.
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: MOG8 on December 20, 2012, 03:48:34 pm
 Specs:
Twin, 9 mm bore x 12 mm stroke, double acting,  6,787 cmc
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: derekwarner on December 20, 2012, 09:24:27 pm
Was it not one of our members who questioned the wisdom in a new designed engine by Nick Monahan which incorporated the lubrictor body fully contained within th engine head assembly?
 
At least this example lubricator from MH&B appears to have increased surface area by the external fins %) .......... Derek
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: ooyah/2 on December 20, 2012, 09:52:42 pm
Was it not one of our members who questioned the wisdom in a new designed engine by Nick Monahan which incorporated the lubrictor body fully contained within th engine head assembly?
 
At least this example lubricator from MH&B appears to have increased surface area by the external fins %) .......... Derek

Looks like a good idea with the cooling fins below the cylinder but in my opinion the heat from the cylinder will prevent the lubricator from condensing as it's enclosed in the cylinder.
But then they are very experienced engine builders so I assume that they have experimented with this on there design.

Bank loans come to mind.

George.
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: derekwarner on December 20, 2012, 11:04:28 pm
Thanks ooyah/2....I couldn't remember if it was Jerry C or yourself who made the previous questioning comment.....Derek
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: ooyah/2 on December 21, 2012, 12:29:09 am
Thanks ooyah/2....I couldn't remember if it was Jerry C or yourself who made the previous questioning comment.....Derek

Derek,
No I never commented on Nick's engine as he more or less wound up his business just after I joined the forum.
I have always stated my dislike for the Straight thro' lubricators without an adjusting needle to monitor the amount of oil going to the engine and I think that the lubricator on this engine will do the same as those without an adjusting needle and that is Gulp the oil which can leave you thinking that there is plenty of oil when there ain't.
( Why it Gulps the oil I don't know, but they do ).
I will be good to find out on this new engine how that lubricator preforms.

George.
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: southsteyne2 on December 22, 2012, 12:12:19 am
 O0 New one from China sold on ebay less than $600 aus watch out Stuart
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: derekwarner on December 22, 2012, 12:54:11 am
That is amazing southsteyne2...it is or was only a matter of time ........do you have a link to the e-bay Item number or page?
 
Regards to you & yours in our Wollongong  :-)) ........sent from Derek in Adelaide for two weeks  {-)
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: southsteyne2 on December 22, 2012, 11:17:16 am
Hi Derek all the best to you and familly and all you other great guys an gals out there this this the link :-)) http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230896768179?nma=true&si=3RNL%2B%2FOIrqB%2FmC9Eo2%2BcBW9MMOw%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

noticed on the bottom of the standard different width hope these are not like the early mini lathes that had to be virtually rebuilt but times have changed in regards to quality
Cheers to all
John
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: Snowwolflair on December 22, 2012, 11:40:59 am
ModelMarine.net have a tripple expansion under development.  Might build that steam tug yet. 8)
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: logoman on December 23, 2012, 01:23:16 pm
ModelMarine.net have a tripple expansion under development.  Might build that steam tug yet. 8)


JMC still makes a tripple expansion:


(http://jmc.vapeur.free.fr/photogallery/IMG_1113.JPG)
Title: Re: SNEAK PREVIEW: NEW ENGINE FROM MH&B
Post by: kiwimodeller on December 27, 2012, 09:53:02 am
There is also a twin cylinder V twin listed on Ebay at present, http://www.ebay.com/itm/251127459986?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251127459986?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
There are several listed under more than one name so I presume they are coming from the maker who lists themselves as "Greempoweronline". It has a YouTube clip showing it running and has a forward/reverse/throttle control and a lubricator imcluded in the price. The seller emphasises that it is only a small engine but with 9.5mm bore and 15mm stroke it should be capable of pushing a reasonable size hull. The Buy it Now is US$210 but by bidding on one that was up for auction with a low start value I got one for US$151 including postage. Will report on what it looks like and how it goes when it arrives. Cheers, Ian.