Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: old shrimper on January 13, 2013, 02:09:16 am
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IS there a sticky post some where with the things not to do ?
it would BE handy
ONE thing is not to leave the heat lamps on to long on your model or it dries out big time before the bog dries and the cy glue comes unstuck
and leaves 1/8 wide cracks in the planking i now have it covered with a wet towel to try to get some moisture back in to the timber DAM >>:-(
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I think there is a tongue in cheek version in humour, going back 3-4 years.
Humorous
Answer the phone when using CA glue.
Real world.
Using CA glue when planking larger areas of planking in one shot. The resultant shrinkage can cause the plywood substrate to cup, in the opposite direction to what you might want on a cambered deck. (done that).
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Humorous
Answer the phone when using CA glue.
Ask Steam Boat Phil about this one {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Dave
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Soldering a brass fitting and then picking it up before it has cooled off. :}
My Dad is a big fan of this!!! You should see his fingers!!!
I think CA glue has to be the number one cause of many an incident, I have been stuck to a wooden hull too many times ! {-)
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Soldering a brass fitting and then picking it up before it has cooled off. :}
And soldering a brass fitting that has already got some superglue on!! NOT RECOMMENDED unless wearing a respirator!
And spray painting in the kitchen thinking you can localise any overspray by using sheildings without hitting the kitchen wall. Very wife unfriendly idea.
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Rush ANY job, no matter how small.
Don't mix paint types.
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Don't believe everything that a "plan" tells you without doing some background checks.
The old one....measure twice and cut once.
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Don't be afraid to ask
If you ask then at least listen properly
Dave
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Never ever give up. Hit it.. <*< {-) {-)
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Not checking the label on your tin of varnish before spraying and then wondering why it smelled 'different'. I still have painful memories of spraying acrylic varnish on enamel paint, which gave me a whole load more work to do on HMS Amethyst! >:-o
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Simulated my nice white caulking with plastic strip, then applied some sanding sealer to the deck :embarrassed: <:(
That was my earliest fubar ..... lesson learnt
Dave
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Humorous
Answer the phone when using CA glue.
Ask Steam Boat Phil about this one {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Dave
Or answering the phone when doing the ironing :o
Scoop
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If it can't be fixed with a hammer it's an electrical fault
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It it won't move, don't force it. Just get a bigger hammer. <*<
Red Parker, 1979
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A Useful flowchart for model boating
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ExSBio5ZII0/T_svEe_GsDI/AAAAAAAACrw/Y4TYTlB8BfQ/s1600/WD40+Duct+Tape+Flow+Chart.jpg)
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Never never hold something and superglue it over your lap. Spent 3 hours in the bath the othernight and ruined a good pair of trousers and undies! Nuff said!!!!
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Never try to open a stuck bottle of superglue with your teeth
:embarrassed: don't ask how I know this one :embarrassed:
Also when spraying ensure the nozzle is pointing in the correct direction ie away from ones face
:embarrassed: again don't ask how I know this one :embarrassed:
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Hi,
Do not sneeze when holding a tube of superglue!
Regards
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Don't do a modelling demo at Warwick show! No doubt Dave will back the up! Ps it's still not healed properly!!!
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never ever have a chihuahua pup running around near your build or parts, they literaly chew balsa to pieces
bad puppy >>:-(
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Never have a building board balanced where a cat can upset it.
Even slung 30Ft., cats do land on four feet.
Regards Ian.
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only buy one kit at a time or you'll never finish anything!
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When building a kit do not trust the translation of measurements from Metric to Imperial, always check twice! ( Graupner used to be really bad with this!!) :((
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if you drop a scalpel and it brushes your leg on the way down, check your leg, dont go to move an hour later to find you have a shoe full of blood from the slice the scalpel made down your leg.
Grendel
ps it was a brand new blade and I never felt it cut.
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They are a great little tool. Unfortunately the handle does not seem 'man enough' to be gripped securely.
Is there any adaption to make it more gripable ?
Ken
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They are a great little tool. Unfortunately the handle does not seem 'man enough' to be gripped securely.
Is there any adaption to make it more gripable ?
Ken
There was a chap advertising in a model railway magazine a while back who did "easygrip" scalpel handles. Was basically a custom handle for swan morton blades. I'll look it up for you
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A lot of people in the 'States' seem to be using that "Sugra" stuff for moulding plastic handles and the like....
https://sugru.com/
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The originals are ridiculously thin and not designed for any force. It's probably because you don't need it when cutting skin.
Ken
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A lot of people in the 'States' seem to be using that "Sugra" stuff for moulding plastic handles and the like....
https://sugru.com/ (https://sugru.com/)
I may have to get me some of that!
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Is this like our two part putty ?
ken
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sort of... it more like a soft rubbery substance that stays soft and flexible when it goes off. Or at least what the website says
I have just ordered a sampler pack so will report back.....
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Post us some pictures.
As an aside, the blades are difficult to change (and frightening) so what is the secret 'twist and turn' movement please ?
Ken
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lift the back edge of the blade where it meets handle and pull - a pair of pliers makes it safer.
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that said I also use the disposables that have a plastic handle, where the blade is moulded in.
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you can get better handles - http://www.axminster.co.uk/swann-morton-swann-morton-scalpel-handles-prod19881/
Grendel
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SM actually do a tool for removing the blades
http://www.swann-morton.com/product/117.php (http://www.swann-morton.com/product/117.php)
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Scalpels are for cutting Not carving. If you have a stronger grip, it allows you to sever digits rather than cut them. Don't try to cut through on one pass. Scalpel blades are easy to break and the attendent "Ping" doesn't tell you which way to duck.
Regards Ian.
Can't spile :embarrassed:
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Ah !! Thank you for that. Very informative . :-))
ken
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Use scalpels all day/every day, I buy them with rubber covers on the handles. (http://www.mattonbutiken.se/index/product/id/COL3/SKALPELLSKAFT_3_MED_GUMMIGREPP.html)
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Use scalpels all day/every day, I buy them with rubber covers on the handles. (http://www.mattonbutiken.se/index/product/id/COL3/SKALPELLSKAFT_3_MED_GUMMIGREPP.html)
Those are the ones the chap I mentioned previously was selling
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A lot of people in the 'States' seem to be using that "Sugra" stuff for moulding plastic handles and the like....
https://sugru.com/ (https://sugru.com/)
I just came across a homemade Sugra substitute, made from silicone and cornstarch.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-Your-Own-Sugru-Substitute/?ALLSTEPS (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-Your-Own-Sugru-Substitute/?ALLSTEPS)
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I have bookmarked that for future reference
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If you want to Google it, it's called "Sugru".
Plenty of good ideas on the site for what you can do with it.
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Never catch an iron bar with a wet hand at -40c, if you do don't use a blow torch to thaw it out, wait for Spring. Mick B.
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Failing to use plastic bags for lead shot when trial ballasting with loose shot and external keel weight lead strips.
After getting the waterline just right in the bath you realise that you now have to properly affix the lead strips (instead of temporary duct tape), and this means turning the hull upside down !
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On the subject of scapels, I use all Xacto handles or Excel, I cant get on with swan mortons ever since one broke and decided to deposit a large amount of blade into the back of my hand.. the exacto / excel handles are more like a large pen and I find you get far more control on them ! On the subject of things not to do - dont balance a paint pot on your model whilst your painting and then knock it off all down the front of the windows..... major mess... took ages to sort it out.. !
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One thing I discovered you shouldn't do is... polish your paintwork with your spectacles cloth dipped in white spirit... I don't know why, but the paintwork goes matt !!
Lee
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One thing I discovered you shouldn't do is... polish your paintwork with your spectacles cloth dipped in white spirit... I don't know why, but the paintwork goes matt !!
Lee
And it makes your eyes sting.
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Re scalpels, I tend to wrap a good load of cheap masking tape around the handels, cheap effective and simples!
My pearl of wisdom, never pick the soldering iron up by the hot end >>:-(
Sean
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I was always taught to "cut towards your mate".
Jerry.
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after many years of modeling I have learnt that it is not a good idea to wear slippers in the workshop,I dropped a vice on my foot result two
broken toes! I wear steel caps now.That upset the wife as I could't drive and take her shopping.
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My pearl of wisdom, never pick the soldering iron up by the hot end >>:-(
Sean
I used to do a lot of electronic soldering in my day job, IT.
Usually to check the iron is heating up, I lift to my nose and 'smell' for heat.
.... you guess it, one day I smell too closely!
My mate, also in IT, looked at my columella (look it up!) burst out laughing and said;
"I know exactly what you did!" >:-o
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Martin.
It's amazing what gets up ones nose.
George
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Mainly fingers! O0
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Martin,
That is now the tactic I use, also a metal rube mounted on a post set up keeps the hot end of the iron out the way... Just dont sneeze when sniffing the iron!
Sean
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Don't do this. caught between belt and frame of linisher.
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Never try to open a stuck bottle of superglue with your teeth
You wouldnt believe the number of people we have phoning up about getting cyano in some very weird places....very very weird places
Ive been asked by doctors in accident emergency quite a few times about the safety of using debonder on various parts of the body....
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Leave a bottle of cyano on the bench without the top on.
Sat on my comfy padded swivel chair last summer (?) wearing only tee shirt, shorts and flip flops, was moving a hull around the bench - it was the fumes and smoke from my shorts and seat padding that made me realise I'd knocked over the cyano, was well stuck and my thigh was getting more than a tad warm. Ever tried getting out of a pair of shorts stuck to a swivel chair? Well --- fall over to one side, try to miss the wall and wriggle out as best you can without getting stuck to the rest of the glue on the floor. Missus was of no help, heard the commotion saw me on the floor starkers (no nicks) and laughed her socks off - very funny - its now become on of her "do you remember when" tales. {:-{ {:-{
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Luckily she didn't have the camera phone.
You would never stop paying :D
Ned
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though you might have got £250 on youve been framed...
Grendel
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Don't spend hours and hours finishing a model-it was actually a diorama-and then, because it was a beautiful day I left it outside in the shade to dry, get rid of the final paint-fumes. Forgot about and then 3 hours later go outside and find that some git has gone and nicked it! >:-o
So, always keep ya model in a safe place.
Si:)
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If you want to Google it, it's called "Sugru".
Plenty of good ideas on the site for what you can do with it.
BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-21894863
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This stuff is great , go buy some from there website, its cheap as hell like 11 quid for 5 packs... You can make your own as well, I think its cornstarch, silicon rubber and food coloring. You can also make silicon rubber molds with this, so its very useful if you have that one part that you just want to reproduce for a model. The price is not comparable to silicon mold rubber mixes though they are cheaper than Sugru, but Sugru is far far far less messy.... ! Worth having a little kicking about...
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This stuff is great , go buy some from there website, its cheap as hell like 11 quid for 5 packs... You can make your own as well, I think its cornstarch, silicon rubber and food coloring. You can also make silicon rubber molds with this, so its very useful if you have that one part that you just want to reproduce for a model. The price is not comparable to silicon mold rubber mixes though they are cheaper than Sugru, but Sugru is far far far less messy.... ! Worth having a little kicking about...
Definitely, had hours of fun with mine
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Don't get distracted when cutting ply with a new blade in the knife I did this and cut a sizeable chunk clean off I did not feel it at the time I did feel it when cold water was used to try and stop the bleeding, needless to say that did not work so it was off to a walk in centre it still did not hurt then a few days after it was hurting like hell