Model Boat Mayhem
Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => The "Black Arts!" ( Electrics & Electronics ) => Topic started by: red181 on February 26, 2013, 12:38:17 am
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Im after a noisy old diesel engine sound, every website I find advertises free downloads till you get on it, anybody got a good website with a choice of mp3 downloadable sounds?
thanks
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http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll (http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll)
Updated address info ..
http://www.findsounds.com/types.html
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Go to this page (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1830911). In the third post I have engine sounds for a sound system project I am working on. There are three engine sounds in the zip file, engine start, engine run and engine stop. All are for a diesel. Download and unzip.
Blutoh
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I downloaded some engine sounds for my Schnellboot from http://www.sounddogs.com/
You'll have to mix and match and tweak them a bit.
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thanks peeps! :-))
supposed to be off work painting, so will have to have a proper look at the links later! :} , domnt want to get caught out by you know who %)
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Go to this page (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1830911). In the third post I have engine sounds for a sound system project I am working on. There are three engine sounds in the zip file, engine start, engine run and engine stop. All are for a diesel. Download and unzip.
Blutoh
Hi Pete, cant get these files to open, saying corrupt, and I need to buy winrar? whatever that is! The other links, sounddogs you appear to have to buy, and findsounds are too short to do anything with, but thanks anyway :-))
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They are ".ogg" format files, i.e. open source. If you are in windows you will need to get a codec for ogg vorbis, or download Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) (it's free also) and you can convert them to any format. I have converted one to a wav format but unfortunately the forum won't allow me to attach it here?
Pete
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They are ".ogg" format files, i.e. open source. If you are in windows you will need to get a codec for ogg vorbis, or download Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) (it's free also) and you can convert them to any format. I have converted one to a wav format but unfortunately the forum won't allow me to attach it here?
Pete
Yes, using audacity, run it, start recording, play the sample, stop recording, edit the sound, export it as either a .wav or .mp3 or whatever you need it saved as. Do not save it on the way out unless you want an audacity only format. The sound files can be cut, copied and pasted like any other image. There are also tools for tweaking the volume and fading in and out.
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This is what I am trying to achieve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHMjVCuVdkg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHMjVCuVdkg&feature=youtu.be)
Perhaps a bit amateurish, but then I have the option of switching it off completely. However, it will be a nice experience to hear the Kriegsmarine Marsch wafting through the waves as she sails in and out. I personally LOVE the engine idle thumpity thump at the end of it all. O0
Keeping my fingers (and toes) crossed for it all to work out. I've almost become a Sound Technician at the end of this 'experiment'. Phew!
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got them to work pete, many thanks for your efforts and help, they would have been ideal, especially with the start up and shut down, but unfortunately its the wrong sound, I need an old diesel being thrashed :} that sound is way too nice!
Paul
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OK, Paul, sorry we don't have the right sound for you yet ;) , but keep an eye on the thread. Eventually we will be creating sound libraries, for different types of vessels, and at some point may have what you need. Right now I just carved up the engine sound into 10 rpm notches, so we can have the rpm follow the throttle up and down. Take a look at this site (http://www.freesound.org), they have 250+ diesel sounds, all free. There are some real interesting sounds there, including this one (http://www.freesound.org/people/cmusounddesign/sounds/72026/). You may be able to tweak one onto what you want.
Pete
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Hi Paul,
Just an update, we have a new sound library that may be closer to the type of engine sound you are looking for. Its in this post (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24415585&postcount=119), in two zip files named soundlib2a.zip and soundlib2b.zip. As usual they are in the ".ogg" format, so you will have to convert it with Audacity.
Pete
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;)
Hello
you need to find your happiness in all that
Regards
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ok2
hello again
do not forget: next to a real boat we hear very little motors.
Ten meters we do not hear
model on a scale we can not hear the sound more or less one meter ..........
we are not a rock concert
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You're ruining the myth Gazou, you must be able to hear every clunk and scrape at fifty paces or the sound module manufacturers have got it wrong, and don't forget the trials and tribulations of trying to create an infinite baffle inside a toy boat hull. {-)
Regards Ian
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How many cylinders and how old?
Ian and Jean-Pierre are dead right about being too fussy. Reminds me of the guy who rang up and wanted an engine sound for his Titanic, and we had several asking for Bismarck and Hood engines.
DM
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Is there a loop for tearing steel and ice cubes hitting the deck for the ACTion noisy thing?
Regards Ian.
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You building the Titanic then ?????? :}
ken
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I think Red's after an old Petter a la' dumper truck - an old clanker coughing and banging away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivN8Y7PC1XU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivN8Y7PC1XU)
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ok2 HI Dave !
No I do not want to spoil the myth, I just want to say that we should not sound too loud. An old fishing boat can have loud sounds (port), a vapor may have loud sounds (port) but not as a supply ship or cargo. I live in a port and it is impossible to record the sound of the engines of a ship outside because I only hear the buzzing.
And hear the CUCARACHA in a submarine is nonsense. O0
On my supply, you know we do not hear sounds when you put your ear to a meter. When navigating two meters can not hear anything you do not hear the horn but "normal" modules come from you.
cordially
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If that's the engine sound you want then you've already got everything you need on the You-Tube video i.e. engine starts, runs and shut downs. Take a decent digital voice recorder and stick it in front of the PC speakers, then record everything. Stuff the recording through Audacity (which is freeware) and chop out the bits you don't want (sorry Chet and Jerry....), then compress as required and save as .wav, .raw, .mp3 or any other format which suits. You could then run it through an ACTion P100 or Graupner sound unit. Don't forget that pure sound is for HiFi fanatics - like Ian says, we make model boats.
Suit yourself.
DM
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Is there a loop for tearing steel and ice cubes hitting the deck for the ACTion noisy thing?
Regards Ian.
No - but we do have a very amusing stream of bubbles..................guaranteed to make anyone who asks about Titanic engine sounds retreat in embarrassment.
DM
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:-)
It is better to do nothing than to do evil
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thanks pete, I will have a play with your latest link, there must be something I can do with those sounds, we are now on the right sort of sound,
that old dumper truck isnt that far away! My model has a sound unit in it, that has an sd card facility, operated from ther transmitter to pick tracks, the boat is the Orca from jaws, and its the battered thrashed engine sound I want !
I have various music and dialogue tracks from the film, which using audacity are played over the engine sound, and I have just the engine sound on a loop, but unfortunately the loop I did, and the sound I used isnt that good. Its taken a while to get the sound unit to the point that it works really well, so now I want to improve the recorded tracks. Music and dialogue is easy from the net, as I run the boat at slow speeds, and dont have throttle proportional engine sound, the engine sound I want is reasonably slow, bit like an old 4cyl diesel, I might be being fussy, but when I hear it I will know thats the one! :}
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ok2 HI RED 181
hello
on a boat like the ORCA propulsion is diesel / electric and groups almost always run at the same speed. groups are in the boat. Electric motors do not make a noise audible outside. Hear the sound of 4 cylinders on a boat like the ORCA is not good. There has not heard the bateauJ'ai ORCA Norway. Want to know what we mean? Nothing.
It is better to do nothing rather than hurt
Sorry to disappoint you
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Gazou, Orca in Jaws movie was a battered old fishing boat, with a diesel engine, not electric, with models, we have the license as the builders to exagerate things, and personalise to our own tastes, there is little point making and fitting a bespoke sound unit to a model boat if you cannot hear it, so the sound needs to be exagerated, just like led lights are exagerated, so they can be seen, and scale speed is exagerated, otherwise the model would be too slow, and so on.
It is better to do nothing than to do evil
It is better to do nothing rather than hurt
It is better to do something, rather than sit on the fence being critical
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Roll on the warm balmy summer afternoons with the gentle rasp of enraged Strimmers and the fragrant perfume of burning food. :D and don't forget, the sound of a steam plant exactly scales down to a natural sound without third harmonics - - - or any others for that matter.
Regards Ian
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{-) O0 It is better to do nothing than to do evil
It is better to do nothing rather than hurt
Both are true! :-))
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Hi Pete, I have messed about with one of your files, and using the black magic of audacity have arrived at a very different sound, which is pretty close to what I wanted :-))
I tried to attach for you to hear, but cant seem to make it small enough, so will have to wait till I can record it in the boat. Using repeat function, and an age spend cropping out any possible "join" in the tracks it seems ok, given its in a model boat, and is sitting behing music and dialogue from the jaws film, it should be great, thanks for your help, Paul :}
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Paul,
Glad I could help. When you have it all done, post a video so we can see and hear it.
Pete.