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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: VC on March 09, 2013, 06:50:19 pm

Title: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 09, 2013, 06:50:19 pm
Scaled the plans to 130% to arrive at a bigger boat ( 26"). Build started on 24th Feb. I'm using 3mm ply and Foam Board in various thickness (2mm - 5mm) for this build. I've also managed to procure some drive sets with universal joints - this is a rarity in India.

This is where the build stands today. Yet to decide whether to do a brushed or brushless set up.

p.s. In the 7th. Picture, you can see the Mermaid alongside this model.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: montessa315 on March 09, 2013, 07:18:44 pm
Coming together well.

What are you using to glue the foam board?


Alan..............
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: eddiesolo on March 09, 2013, 08:27:25 pm
Looking good there.  :-))
Si:)
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 10, 2013, 04:27:02 am
Thank you!

I'm using a CA that is specially formulated for Foam Board and Acrylate. Will strengthen all joints with epoxy before I apply the skins.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 12, 2013, 07:06:11 pm
I've started work on the superstructure today. A lot needs to be done to modify/rectify the plans. The notches denoted on the plan aren't deep enough and will result in an incorrect profile. BEWARE!!!
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Mad_Mike on March 12, 2013, 08:13:01 pm
another guy building boats using foam board i cannot find this stuff anywhere {:-{ 
You got your hands full with all these boat projects going, they are all coming on well too.  :-))
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 04:51:34 am
Mike, have you tried these establishments?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3mm-Matt-WHITE-PVC-FOAM-Board-1-Sheet-420-x-297-A3-/400173669173

http://www.theplasticpeople.co.uk/sample-foam-board-various-colours-p-252.html

http://www.brettmartin.com/en-gb/plastic-sheets/products/foam-pvc.aspx

Regards.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: barriew on March 13, 2013, 07:38:37 am
another guy building boats using foam board i cannot find this stuff anywhere {:-{ 
You got your hands full with all these boat projects going, they are all coming on well too.  :-))


Have you tried arts and crafts stores - Hobbycraft sell it if you have one near you.


Barrie
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Mad_Mike on March 13, 2013, 03:53:14 pm
i dont reckon ive ever seen any. whats it like? Is like that stuff they use for packing that when you break it leaves little polystyrene balls everywhere or is like the trays you get from the chippy?
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 04:47:07 pm
Neither. You are talking about Thermocole. Depron is somewhat similar to Thermocole. This foam board is denser and heavier which makes it practically useless for aero modelling. PM me your address and I'll send you some samples of this stuff.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Circlip on March 13, 2013, 05:12:42 pm
http://www.foamboard-store.co.uk/acatalog/About_Foamboard.html (http://www.foamboard-store.co.uk/acatalog/About_Foamboard.html)
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 05:39:26 pm
Oh no! This isn't getting anywhere. Circlip, that isn't what I am using. The link points to a lovely material (Foam Core Board) prized by aeromodellers. It is a sheet of depron (?) sandwiched between two laminates. The foam that I am using is very dense and, anything above 3mm, requires a bit of effort to cut with a modelling knife. It is Rigid PVC Foam Board. Ideal as a Balsa replacement for bulkheads, Superstructures and perhaps, Skinning (Must try that someday).

I am travelling outstation tomorrow and will be able to log in again only on Monday. Then I shall attempt to post close up / cross section photographs of Depron / The foam that I am using/ The foam pointed out by Circlip.

Cheers!

Edit: Thought I would do it right away. :-))

Pic 1. Depron

Pic 2. Foam Core Board

Pic 3. Rigid PVC Foam Board - The one that I am using.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 06:02:15 pm
Rigid PVC Foam Board is available here in the UK and Ireland:


http://www.antalis.co.uk/content/Foam_Rigid_PVC_Board.aspx#


Hope that helps.

Good night from India. :-))
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Circlip on March 13, 2013, 06:15:39 pm
Just think what problems we had when there was only soft/medium/hard Balsa  {-)
 
  Have seen the foamed PVC you're using VC, is there a manufacturers or product name on it?
 
   Regards  Ian.
 
   Sorry, just seen your last link.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 06:24:42 pm
Just think what problems we had when there was only soft/medium/hard Balsa  {-)   

Yes and the smell of Balsa and Adhesive was maddening. %% We didn't have cellphones or the net either. Life was easier, but then again, could we be in touch this way - half way across the world?  ok2

C'est la vie Mon Ami!

Completely forgo to post the progress photos for today.

Side decking added. Either I went wrong on the cut or the plan needs SERIOUS amendment. I will blame the former.
Visited the neighbourhood Car License Plate printer and got a template created for the FIRE lettering. Paste/ Spray/Wait/ Peel away - should be a cinch. Only time will tell.
Rudder made out of 6mm ply.

Work will resume on Monday again.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: tt1 on March 13, 2013, 06:30:18 pm
Have used foam board for all sorts during modelling, strong, very light - much lighter in weight and more rigid than styrene of equal thickness and once glued with cyano (even on edge) it ain't gonna come apart.  Have made boat stands, battery trays, servo boxes etc etc and of course it's waterproof.
          Happy to make the same offer as VC Ian if you wish to pm me your address.
                                                 Regards, Tony.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 13, 2013, 06:41:44 pm
There you go Chaps! Lester is closer home than Guwahati! {-)

Thanks Tony! O0
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Mad_Mike on March 13, 2013, 07:35:09 pm
thanks for clearing that up. Ill buy some and see what i can do with it.  :-))
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Circlip on March 13, 2013, 07:56:10 pm
Got some thanks Tony but mines in the form of a piece of extrusion used in the plastic window/door trade as a trim strip. Although one supplier sells both types, he refers to Foam PVC and paper/exp poly/paper both as foam board. If you regard the Paper/exp poly/paper, there is both expanded polystyrene  and polyurethane variants. The "original" (?) paper/styrene/paper was projected for use in toy aircraft years ago when there was a colossal increase in the price of Balsa by cutting shaped panels from it and glueing balsa strip to the "Open" edge. Then there's Depron  %)
 
  Don't matter too much on a boat but weight might be a problem. Definitely will if used on topsides.
 
  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Circlip on March 15, 2013, 01:23:43 pm
And there's more :- http://www.tri-dee.com/Sintra%20sheets%20information.htm (http://www.tri-dee.com/Sintra%20sheets%20information.htm) same song, different singer. Bit of information on usage and other types of material.
 
  Regards  Ian
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 06:33:08 am
How does one get hold of this magnificent set of detailing kit without paying for it? <:(
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 06:34:34 am
Indulge in a bit of masochism and build the entire lot (and more) from scratch........ O0
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: TheLongBuild on October 20, 2013, 10:23:48 am
Any updated pictures of the boat ?.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 11:11:29 am
I just can't seem to be able to post any pictures here.

The boat is almost ready, you can see the build here:

http://www.rcindia.org/boats/scratch-from-plan-built-raf-crash-tender/

Regards.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 20, 2013, 11:34:05 am

Visitors are only allowed to view one picture per posting on your site.

Regarding posting on here, it's simple enough.


1.  Click on attachments and other options
2.  Click on browse
3   Click the picture from your computer which is under 150K
4.  Click  Open
5.  Repeat procedure if you have another picture
6.  Click  Preview
7.  Smile and click  Post


Hope this helps,


Ken


Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:48:24 pm
Things seem to be better on the connectivity front so I am trying to post a few pictures.

Since I wanted the stowed nets to be authentic, I even taught myself to knit a net.  ok2

Do you knit or do you weave a net???
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:50:45 pm
Ken - thanks for telling me. I was messing up on the 7th. point. I wasn't smiling............. ok2

Jokes apart, it was a server problem here.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:52:44 pm
Here she is.........
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:56:20 pm
If the forum wishes me to elaborate on the scratch building process, I would gladly do so.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:58:53 pm
Some more
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 01:04:14 pm
Final touch up painting and the RAF pennant remains to be installed.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 01:56:46 pm
550 Brushed Motor and Reversible ESC, 2S LiPo to start with), Avionic RCB 6i Tx/Rx (Removing the HK system), Turnigy Blue Prop (42x29x15), 2 x 9G servos for rudder and lights. Wailing siren unit under construction.

AUW 1656 grams.
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: red181 on October 21, 2013, 07:07:36 pm
well done! very ingenious build,  :-))
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 22, 2013, 02:53:51 pm
Thank you. The mast LED malfunctioned. Had to cut away half the mast to reach and replace it. {:-{
Title: Re: Keil Kraft Eezebilt RAF Crash Tender
Post by: big bill on October 24, 2013, 05:41:20 am
a very nice build , love the work man ship.
 could i ask a little more about the brushless motors
 size , power ,are they approx. = to a .32 glo ??, as thats what i came up with ?
also , what speed control ??
i want to try brushless ,and are collecting info ,but i need some advise on speed controls , seems i cant use 1 s/c on 2 motors , or is there a way ??
i have 3 brushless in the play pen , .25+.32 glo = electric , but the buggy s/c is a bit lumpy , any advise ??
what size props ??
thanks bill s