Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: Geoff on June 04, 2013, 02:31:27 pm
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We have a growing problem with an aggressive swan on our lake. The male attacks motor driven boats about 90% of the time. He almost completley ignores yachts, however...
Last weekend I was sailing my steam powered destroyer and whilst the female and her signets were not worried at all and were the other side of the lake the male swan swam over in an aggressive way heading straight for my model. I removed it from the water and started to pack up. The swan patrolled up and down then paddled away about 50 yards, turned and charged at me! He did not quite come out of the water but pretty close.
The next day a member of the public had his yacht sunk by the swan and one of our club members rowed out gently to retrieve the model and was promptley attacked by the swan pitching him into the water! Fortunatley no one was hurt and the swan seemed satisfied (we didn't laugh - well not too much!).
In general we are finding this swan getting more aggressive. He attacks female ducks on sight, which I have frequently seen and reportedly has killed a couple and their young. It has also been reported he drowned a dog. He also attempts to nip people on the bank with some success which I have also seen.
The pond is quite large and we only have access to 1/3rd of the lake.
We realise that swans are protected species and can be territorial and whilst no one intends any harm, we are getting a little fed up with his antics and wonder if anyone has any suggestions.
We have thought about a complaint to the council who own the lake but can see this could easily get out of control. We also have some concerns if he attacks a child.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
Thanks
Geoff
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Hi to know which lake this is would I am sure be helpful to forum members
regards Ian
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Report to the council as you use the lake it is in your interests to tell them what is going on. I doubt there is anything that can be done regarding the Swan but they can put up signs warning of the danger. Looks like you will just have to keep trying and sneak in a sail now and again or wait until the signets are older and he cools his heels.
Si:)
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Geoff
look at your local area and see if there is a swan rescue centre
they may be able to come and remove all the swans and relocate to a more suitable area
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Hi Geoff.
I would pay a visit to my local RSPCA and relate my tale to them. They would go to monitor and assess the swans behaviour. If they found that the cob was overly aggresive and having a go at everybody and anything they would possibly look at catching it to relocate it elsewhere. As well as protecting animals from bad human behaviour, the reverse also applies.
From what I have read online the cob has claimed the entire pond as it territory and no one else is getting on the water. That said I know of a pond where the swans, geese, ducks, gulls and moorhen and model boats all get along.
Frank
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That give you to eat the swan?
there was mad cow, maybe this is a crazy swan!
Do not eat especially {:-{
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That give you to eat the swan?
there was mad cow, maybe this is a crazy swan!
Do not eat especially {:-{
Only Royalty allowed to eat swan.....
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here at perranporth we have swans ducks seagulls and holiday makers and our boats. all get on togeather..
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Male swans can get tetchy around brooding time, which if memory serves, ends around the middle to end of June. There's a good chance he'll calm down after the Cygnets are on the water.
The local authority should be on it as they have responsibilty for the safety of the lakes users.
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geese, ducks, pheasant, grouse, partridge, curlew, lapwing, golden plover, woodpidgeon, snipe, err,,,,,, ive ate them all
and very nice to, unfortunatly i dont have a roasting dish big enough, err so they are still off the menu, {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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No wild Haggis on that list.....you`ve been deprived. {-)
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Only Royalty allowed to eat swan.....
Nick
that's only Black swans on certain parts of the Thames
normal pond swans are fair game to anyone :-))
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No wild Haggis on that list.....you`ve been deprived. {-)
Must be wild
The farmed haggis don't taste anything like :-)) :-))
Ned
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:-)) Angry Swans I can handle it's angry wife's I can't,Ray. {-) {-) {-)
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:-)) Angry Swans I can handle it's angry wife's I can't,Ray. {-) {-) {-)
Just throw them a bit of stale bread :D :D
Ned
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it's only behaving naturally towards any danger to it's new brood......swans mate for life, and it will defend it's brood to the death............and if you go to the RSPCA, I can guanrantee 100% what they will say to you............keep off the lake until the breeding season is over and the group has flown .
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Just throw them a bit of stale bread :D :D
Ned
my wife refuses to eat stale bread {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Nick
that's only Black swans on certain parts of the Thames
normal pond swans are fair game to anyone :-))
Well I never new that, I thought it applied to all swans, although there might be a bit of a struggle getting it in the roasting tin. As regards giving them bread, not good, it gives them the avian equivalent of rickets, and has no nutritional value, wholemeal bread is better, but still not good and feeding bread to the swans contributes to messing up the lake.
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There's one on our lake has a go at me. I just calmly walk through him and like geese he goes away and picks on somebody else. Stand up to him, he won't hurt you and he certainly won't break your arm, that's an urban myth. Better still get the council to put up warning signs as previously suggested and knock seven bells out of him with one.
Jerry.
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Hi
Just be carful we accidently killed a Swam and its mate died some weeks later and were thrown off the water.
dusty
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Nick, I said throw the wife a bit of stale bread not the swans.
Bread and the plastic bags that get thrown in are a b nuisance.
Black swans are not Queenie's but escapees from parks.
Swans are owned by the Sovereign or some of the Worshipful
Companies like the Vintners.
Ned
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Hi, I go along with Jerry. Just walk straight at him and he will back down. You can try squawking louder that him. We once rescued a swan that was being attacked by a Cob & Pen, blood all over the place. Stand up to them and they will back down. They are not the nice creatures people think they are. Nemesis
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You could try singing to him and he might go away. :-))
You must have heard of a "swansong". %)
I'll get me coat. :embarrassed:
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Geoff wake up, it's not a monster, it's just a nightmare
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Write a letter of complaint to the queen. Tell her to keep her bo00dy pets under control or you'll send Big Ron and the Boys round. ;-) O0 <*<
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Its not just Swans, One of our group had their boat sunk last Sunday by 2 ducks trying to strike up a relationship :-))
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Send them to Sydney.
The Sydney Swans Football Club is an Australian rules football club which plays in the Australian Football League. The club is based in Sydney, New South Wales.
They used to be the South Melbourne Football Club. The motto, "Aut vincere aut mori", is Latin for "either to conquer or to die".
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here at perranporth we have swans ducks seagulls and holiday makers and our boats. all get on togeather..
i cant for the life of me think where the lake is there,please do enlighten me,we spend 2 weeks of the year at at perranporth on hols,or did until recently when we found a nice place at gwithian towans
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What about that other Oz Swan of an alcoholic liquid nature......oh dear off-topic again , sorry. BUT there are a few Black Swans living on the Union Canal near Edinburgh (Scotland), gave me fright one dark night :o .
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This one?
Not quite sure about the water they use though as the Brewery is adjacent to the Swan River. :o
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That's what gives it body and colour
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vnkiwi
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Last time I was on the Swan River it was green!
Not a colour for a decent beer. <:(
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BrianB6 says......... "Last time I was on the Swan River it was green!" ......... >>:-(
In NSW....that brand of beer is called Green Death {-) O0 .......Derek
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works well for St Patrick's day though
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vnkiwi
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Sorry guys....looks like I have to be blunt <*< .......the Green Death ....naming has more to do with gastro intestinal issues...... :embarrassed: ....Derek
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works well for St Patrick's day though
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You could try singing to him and he might go away. :-))
You must have heard of a "swansong". %)
I'll get me coat. :embarrassed:
I have heard "Swany"how I love you, how I love you, my dear old swany
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Listen again , the song is about the Suwanee River in Florida,no swans ...gators got em. ! Anyway my neighbour posted these on her Facebook page this week, half `n half swans from Chile.
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Just another small bit of art, my favouritest painting for some 45 years. :-)
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buy a submarine and confuse the hell out of him till he gets fed up O0
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You mean - bite his legs off?
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Listen again , the song is about the Suwanee River in Florida,no swans ...gators got em. ! Anyway my neighbour posted these on her Facebook page this week, half `n half swans from Chile.
those are beautiful looking swans.............I find great peace and tranquillity in bird life ( and before you lot start on miss piggy jokes.........I mean the feathered kind).........and can sit and watch for hours in the back garden at them feeding, and the antics and tricks they get up to......I feel sorry for those who complain when the feathered friends take habitat on their sailing lakes............harmony is a thing that only humans aren't able to achieve.
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.....I feel sorry for those who complain when the feathered friends take habitat on their sailing lakes............harmony is a thing that only humans aren't able to achieve.
Until you have had a swan chase and sit on your boat as I had once at Mortlake pond. >>:-( <*<
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Neil we have that in common, love birds.
I have a lot of garden and lots of trees. I do everything for the birds like.
Recently pigeons eating in the meadow, a nozzle pitched sky and left with a pigeon.
I had never seen it
The bird protection league wanted to make a bird sanctuary. That's a lot of stress and I said no, unfortunately.
I'm on top of a hill and sometimes in the marsh below, there are hundreds of ducks.
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Until you have had a swan chase and sit on your boat as I had once at Mortlake pond. >>:-( <*<
had plenty, Brian, on Fleetwood lake........it's their natural habitat......not mine, or my boat's, and I'm intelligent enough to realise that. <*< <*< <*<
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had plenty, Brian, on Fleetwood lake........it's their natural habitat......not mine, or my boat's, and I'm intelligent enough to realise that.
Neil, my already high esteem for your model skills, just increased to include your outlook on life as well.
Your comment above puts you amongst the few.
Those of us who realize that it is we who are the ones trespassing into realms which are not our own.
Is more's the pity mankind in general didn't think like this, and be more respectful of earths other environs.
WE don't have the right to "take over" and get annoyed when the native inhabitants "interfere or get in the road" while going about their normal habits.
Well done that man.
cheers
vnkiwi :-))
The arrogance of us "of European extraction" anytime over the last 2500 years beggars belief. (don't allow me to contine as this is one of my little bandwagon subjects)
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Is more's the pity mankind in general didn't think like this, and be more respectful of earths other environs.
WE don't have the right to "take over" and get annoyed when the native inhabitants "interfere or get in the road" while going about their normal habits.
But did it have to take over the whole lake? {:-{
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Hate them >>:-(
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Hate them >>:-(
with an attitude like that, they probably hate you too.............but with a little more intelligence. <*< <*< <*< {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Watched a swan kill four chicks over a weekend not a fan I am fully entitled to my point of view >>:-( by the way don't like rats much too.
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Go brushless and outrun him ;)
If you do report it, make the point that you think he is a danger to members of the public - unfortunately most councils won't bat an eyelid if you complain that he sank your boat. Something to do with model boats not being able to sue for injuries...
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Herons at a lake :-))
Herons ripping at my pond nets >>:-(
But I guess my pond just looks like the big yellow 'M' when they fly over.
Dave
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Watched a swan kill four chicks over a weekend not a fan I am fully entitled to my point of view >>:-( by the way don't like rats much too.
So am I O0 O0 O0
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So am I O0 O0 O0
Unless the Mods decide differently :D :D
Ned
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.... and here endeth the lesson! :police: