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Title: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 21, 2013, 08:54:07 pm
Hi everyone!,
While ive had a week off work I decided to start building a 1/16th LCVP based on pictures and basic plans I can find on the internet, so far im really enjoying it and looking forward to getting it in the water! So far ive managed to complete the hull (although the shape isnt exactly right :embarrassed: ). Trying to keep the cost of the build down im using one of the motors out of my Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit (which has been barely touched in the box for 7 years or so!...I prefer working with wood alot more) and a 3 channel 2.4ghz transmitter and reciever from one of my RC cars, I hope to somehow use the 3rd channel to operate the ramp at the front (mechanism yet to be thought of  {:-{ )
Heres a picture of how it looks so far! Sinice this picture I now have the engine, rudder and prop in place.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/f0ac6ed8-192b-4396-9369-fa08b8aa915b_zpsd2d2e42d.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/f0ac6ed8-192b-4396-9369-fa08b8aa915b_zpsd2d2e42d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Stavros on June 21, 2013, 09:49:02 pm
Hi And Welcome to the madhouse so to speak.......first round is YOURS  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Right with regards to your ramp problem it is relativly simple to do what you need is a cable like a bike cable with an outer and inner...I think the aeromodelrs use them on on flaps etc ....fix one end so it can push and pull and obviously the other end to the servo...other will come on and give you the proper name for them. they are called bowden cable .....old age etc


Dave
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Mad_Mike on June 21, 2013, 09:51:13 pm
theyre called bowden cables  :-))
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Stavros on June 21, 2013, 09:54:24 pm
Beat me to it !!!!!!!!!!!Thanks


Dave
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Mad_Mike on June 21, 2013, 09:57:34 pm
Ive been thinking about building an lcvp. I did one a couple of years ago but with some cheap toy rc car parts. It was small. Biggest problem i had was getting the batteries in somewhere. If i build another one ill do it like yours, i like the hull of your lcvp. Its a good begginers hull.
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 21, 2013, 10:16:13 pm
Thanks thats really useful I'll look into getting one of those cables! Luckily with the battery the Hull was unintentionally made a little deeper at the front so I'll b able to squeeze one in beneath the floor.
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 22, 2013, 09:29:34 am
 The big LCT ( strictly semi-scale! ) needed about half a kilo of lead built into the door to ensure it would always drop. This had a braided steel cable for the last 50cm of its line, then attached to cord and wound round a drum at the stern of the boat.
 
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: mark w on June 25, 2013, 05:55:56 am
Tom,


Your LCVP hull looks great  :-)) . I built a 1/12 scale one last year, as a "what if" someone bought it war surplus and used it for a inter-island construction company. My bow ramp doesn't work; I'm not good at "monkey motion", but I love to build and paint. Keep up the good work.


Mark
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 25, 2013, 03:45:46 pm
Thanks Mark your lcvp looks great! its the painting im not so good at, at the moment I have coated the inside with epoxy, sand sealed the outer hull and bought some grey primer and grey spray paint from halfords so I'll soon be painting as soon as I fit the floor in tomorrow all being well. Im looking forward to having a bash at weathering it a little too.
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: eddiesolo on June 26, 2013, 04:57:27 pm
Painting is all about prep work and taking your time. Make sure grease and muck is cleaned off before any spray work and just do light coat passes, you can always build up the layers-nice even strokes, keep moving. Weathering is a case of using sponge techniques to add mottling, also can be used to smear, wet paint on brushes for dark rust patches then when dry use dry brushing-hardly any paint on to add lighter tones and highlights.
 
Si:)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 27, 2013, 09:50:27 pm
Just an update, few more bits added!


Does anyone know where I can get a 1/16th (or near) willys jeep (or similar). Ive also bought a bowden cable which looks like it should do the trick for the front (thanks!). Painting soon {:-{

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/00113ab5-abbe-4651-8f1f-dc971b517418_zps82c100af.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/00113ab5-abbe-4651-8f1f-dc971b517418_zps82c100af.jpg.html)


Tom
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: mark w on June 27, 2013, 09:55:10 pm
 
Tom,
 
1/18th scale is common size for the metal diecast vehicles. I'm pretty sure I've seen one somewhere. 1/16th and 1/18th are pretty close to the same size.
 
Mark
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 27, 2013, 10:04:23 pm

Tom,
 
1/18th scale is common size for the metal diecast vehicles. I'm pretty sure I've seen one somewhere. 1/16th and 1/18th are pretty close to the same size.
 
Mark


Ive only seen them on ebay but they're rather expensive! hoping there would be a plastic kit about i could make but doesn't look like there is,


Tom
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: mark w on June 27, 2013, 10:07:48 pm
 
Tom,
 
Try www.diecastmodelswholesale.com (http://www.diecastmodelswholesale.com)  look in the Willys section; 1/18th WW2 jeep for $49.00
 
Mark
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: vnkiwi on June 27, 2013, 11:35:59 pm
The old willy's jeep is a pretty basic shape, would be easy to build one from sheet plastic, or even balsa.
Then you only require axle and wheel/tyres.
Just a thought
cheers
vnkiwi   :-))
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: steve pickstock on June 28, 2013, 09:54:23 am
Try the www.tankzone.co.uk you might find useful stuff there.

Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 29, 2013, 10:31:18 am
Thanks for all the replys I will look into those!!
Spent this morning finishing off the front, I looked at various pictures I could find and settled with this. I opted for 3 sheets of balsa which I glued together and then sanded to the desired shape, I couldn't face sanding a harder wood! I'll probably coat it in expoxy to give it a bit more protection should it get knocked.


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20130629_095842_zpsf4afaebb.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20130629_095842_zpsf4afaebb.jpg.html)
Tom
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: eddiesolo on June 29, 2013, 10:43:20 am
Looking really good Tom.
 
Si:)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 01, 2013, 12:02:55 pm
The two Jeeps in my landing craft were 1/18 scale. One by a company called Gate and the other with the canvas up by Solido. Both fairly rare commodities at the moment im afraid.
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: vnkiwi on July 01, 2013, 12:24:26 pm
Hi Tom,
Jeep
at 1/16th, ready to go, if you want it
PM sent
cheers
vnkiwi
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on July 01, 2013, 06:46:59 pm
Looks fantastic!!!!!  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on July 27, 2013, 09:49:31 am
Started a new job recently so progress has been slow the last few weeks! what do people recommend for coating the outside of the hull, ive used plywood so there are tiny little cracks in the wood which when painted wont get filled, ive used sand sealer but i dont think that will be enough for a completely flat surface
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: vnkiwi on July 27, 2013, 10:27:58 am
Either fill them (see Stavros' paint sticky) or apply a high build spray putty, then sand it all off, and your wee cracks should be filled. If not apply again and sand all off, then prime and paint.
Alternative is to tissue cover as outlines in Dave Milburn's Swordsman build.
cheers
vnkiwi

ps
PM sent re Jeep.
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Rob Wood on August 01, 2013, 08:23:38 am
Don't know if you need photos for your build, but I took these when I visited LST 325 a few years ago.

Rob

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6873.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6831.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6828.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6827.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6826.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6825.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6824.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6823.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6822.jpg)

(http://www.robwood.net/Warships/amphibious/lcvp/lcvp_IMG_6575.jpg)


Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 29, 2014, 02:20:43 pm
Well its been a while but with starting a new job and other things happening I've been making slow progress but I'm able to do a lot more now.
Ive painted all the hull grey and will look to give it more of weathered look once i figure out how best to achieve this.
Im keeping my eye out for some 50mm machine guns (may need to make these as i can't seem to find any) as well as making the gunners cockpits which will straight forward to do. also keeping an eye for some cleats.
With the door i was originally going to use a standard servo with a bike gear/ brake cable but found the servo arm didn't give enough reach. At this point i decided too i want to make the door work as it would have done on a real LCVP so i bought 4 pulleys and then created some housings for them to lower and lift the door. To achieve this i bought a winch servo which rotates twice, when i first fitted this and attached 1 side to the door i took a quick video (copy and paste link below into the browser) and i think it will work well! :-)
I've also started the paint the jeep (posts above).
Ive had the electrics in and got these working but I'm yet to test it in the water!


http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140628_141638_zpsf7360bc9.mp4.html


Tom


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140621_101627_zpsa650205a.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140621_101627_zpsa650205a.jpg.html)




(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140622_185239_zpsb219b5ee.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140622_185239_zpsb219b5ee.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: mark w on June 29, 2014, 03:44:40 pm
Glad to see your back at it  :} .  Looking good  :-)) .


Mark
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on June 30, 2014, 08:46:00 pm
so todays task was to start making the enclosure where the motor and rc gear will be and also to start the gun cockpits. To make these i used hole saw drill bit, using 2 different size to create a number of rings (quite a few as some kept breaking!! {:-{ ) which i then glue together, once sanded, filled and sanded again i think they have come out rather well :-) .


Tom



(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140630_190650_zps42c37818.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140630_190650_zps42c37818.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140630_192350_zpsf8304c6b.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140630_192350_zpsf8304c6b.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140630_202637_zps429ade46.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140630_202637_zps429ade46.jpg.html)







Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on July 02, 2014, 06:15:26 pm
Quick update, engine housing is starting to take shape. Started to look for some Browning 50mm 30mm M1919 machine guns but i can only seem to find the barrels (think they are for tanks) at 1/16 scale (£14 for 2) so looks ill be trying to build these from scratch too.


Tom



(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140702_174803_zpsd8630f8b.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140702_174803_zpsd8630f8b.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140702_1748221_zps8a8a0ad3.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140702_1748221_zps8a8a0ad3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: Rob47 on July 03, 2014, 08:01:09 pm
Tom Browning .303 think you mean :-))30mm is a bigger beast  :-)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on July 03, 2014, 10:35:06 pm
Haha thanks rookie error I meant .30 cal not mm :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on July 13, 2014, 01:34:13 pm
Bit more progress...


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20140713_122536_zps9d83d1a1.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20140713_122536_zps9d83d1a1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: tomc89 on May 30, 2016, 07:41:47 pm
Back at it  :-)
I've purchased x2 ,30 cal machine guns (better than the ones i made in the mean time!), some cleats and a ships wheel. I've now re painted the hull and I've been trying to figure out how best to do some lettering. I practised making a stencil with masking tape by tracing with a scalpel over the letters i printed. However it was quite difficult on some of the letters and didn't give a good finish so now I'm thinking of buying some from somewhere..
I've had a go today at making some crates that will put in the front as a bit of cargo to carry & I've got a few more bits on the way to add a bit of detail.
Im hoping to get it in the water in the next week or two, all i've got left to do is attach the ramp to the servo at the back and were good to go  :-))
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20160529_232330_zpsc6aqvezq.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20160529_232330_zpsc6aqvezq.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20160529_232344_zpsg7c0qt8p.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20160529_232344_zpsg7c0qt8p.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20160530_131545_zpstrkcmhbc.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20160530_131545_zpstrkcmhbc.jpg.html)


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/tomc89/20160530_175709_zpszyze0yxb.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/tomc89/media/20160530_175709_zpszyze0yxb.jpg.html)
(wet paint! ok2 )
Title: Re: Scratch Build LCVP
Post by: mark w on May 30, 2016, 08:57:48 pm
Nice  :-)) .


Mark