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Title: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 23, 2013, 05:05:29 pm
As some of you know I made my fisherman diorama http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44366.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44366.0.html) for a bit of fun and it worked well. I have decided to make three with different fishermen doing different things to sell.


One will be sorting a rope, one will be sat mending a net and one will be just looking down. The general theme will be the same as the original all on a jetty that is gnarled and worn. They will be housed on MDF plaques to keep costs down. Not sure on price at the moment but think they will be around the £20-£25 mark, seems a lot but they will hand made, painted etc so after material costs has been taken off I am taking home, as it where, around a tenner for 2 days work-so not really making loads on these even at minimum wage. 

Going to put one on ebay and see how it goes and the other two will probably go to my boat club. If they sell okay and folk like them then I may make some more, depending on my disability. I am waiting for the fishermen to arrive and work will begin in a couple of weeks, looking forward to it.


si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Netleyned on August 23, 2013, 05:13:08 pm
Good luck withe the project Si.
You should find a few buyers out there.
You are selling a Quality product.
Just beware of the dwp spies out there.

Ned
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 23, 2013, 05:24:54 pm
Good luck withe the project Si.
You should find a few buyers out there.
You are selling a Quality product.
Just beware of the dwp spies out there.

Ned


I will Ned, like I said going to do it in stages when I can and then sell on. It is a hobby more than going to a business, probably won't make any more after these three but they keep my hands working, painful as they are so DWP can stuff it, my disability means I struggle at what I like to do, had to give my crossing job up and haven't sailed a boat in months but I can potter with static models, slowly. I am grateful for the money I get and although I struggle I will always try to live a life as best I can...if making a model is a no-no and trying to re-coup a few quid and get enjoyment out of it...then what else can I do?






Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 23, 2013, 07:31:20 pm
Hi Si.
 Flea-bay now take  15%  of your sale. E--bay increased their final value fee's to an average of 9%, then PayPal which is owned by eBay is taking 5% from you on the payment transfer!  you may want to consider other selling sites.
 Frank.  :P
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Shipmate60 on August 23, 2013, 08:12:24 pm
Si,
If you are considering selling them have you considered making them of a size that you can put inside a clear plastic box and supply the box for display.


Bob
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 24, 2013, 02:05:10 am
Si,
If you are considering selling them have you considered making them of a size that you can put inside a clear plastic box and supply the box for display.Bob
All well and good to suggest that bob but don`t think you realise that Si does this on a shoe string budget with many recycled items to create the diorama unless you have a cheap source of supply its not viable.
        Frank
 
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 11:30:57 am
Hi Si.
 Flea-bay now take  15%  of your sale. E--bay increased their final value fee's to an average of 9%, then PayPal which is owned by eBay is taking 5% from you on the payment transfer!  you may want to consider other selling sites.
 Frank.  :P


Ta Frank, one to bear in mind then. May look to sell privately then.




Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 11:32:35 am
Si,
If you are considering selling them have you considered making them of a size that you can put inside a clear plastic box and supply the box for display.


Bob


Nice idea Bob, but due to budget restraints this could be more expense, will look into into as you never know.


Thanks for your input, ideas are always welcome.




Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 11:34:50 am
All well and good to suggest that bob but don`t think you realise that Si does this on a shoe string budget with many recycled items to create the diorama unless you have a cheap source of supply its not viable.
        Frank
 


Yep, shoe string is the word lol. I try and use what I can find etc. Biggest cost so far has been the fisherman...£12.00 for three, doesn't sound a lot but there is £4 there on the model before other parts are added and my time.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Shipmate60 on August 24, 2013, 03:33:30 pm
Frank,
I realise that Si does his work on a budget.
I was not suggesting custom made cover but something reused but plentiful.
We are forever throwing out used packaging.
It all depends on the finished size of course.


And depends on how many thousand he is planning on producing   :} :} :} :}


Bob
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 04:55:59 pm
Frank,
I realise that Si does his work on a budget.
I was not suggesting custom made cover but something reused but plentiful.
We are forever throwing out used packaging.
It all depends on the finished size of course.


And depends on how many thousand he is planning on producing   :} :} :} :}


Bob









LOL, thousands... {-) ...I can just see the wife's face when the house is full of these little 4x4 dios...I'm dead  {:-{




Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 24, 2013, 05:31:11 pm
Hi Si
 wot about him
 Frank
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290964386610?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290964386610?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Netleyned on August 24, 2013, 05:41:11 pm
Watch out Si
Fishermen frae the Broch  are known for
their love of a dram  {-) {-)

Ned
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Circlip on August 24, 2013, 05:46:45 pm
Six in a box for same price on that site. Doesn't say how tall.
 
  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 24, 2013, 06:12:41 pm
Si:)

LOL, thousands... {-) ...I can just see the wife's face when the house is full of these little 4x4 dios...I'm dead  {:-{

 Si if you want to  make a few dozen figures you will need to get one of these to go and hide in out the way of the swmbo  {-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160781978631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160781978631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)
Frank
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 06:36:36 pm
Hi Si
 wot about him
 Frank
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290964386610?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290964386610?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)


I did spot them but thought they didn't look good enough for what I had in mind, saying that if they're cheap enough then I may knock some out and just plonk them on and charge £50 a pop...yeah, I know, more like a fiver. {-)


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 06:38:40 pm
Watch out Si
Fishermen frae the Broch  are known for
their love of a dram  {-) {-)

Ned


My wee fella's will have to be tea-total, cannot afford any drunkenness-they may fall off the diorama... %%

Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 06:40:03 pm
Six in a box for same price on that site. Doesn't say how tall.
 
  Regards  Ian.


Ta Ian, will take a gander.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 24, 2013, 06:41:16 pm
Si:)

LOL, thousands... {-) ...I can just see the wife's face when the house is full of these little 4x4 dios...I'm dead  {:-{

 Si if you want to  make a few dozen figures you will need to get one of these to go and hide in out the way of the swmbo  {-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160781978631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160781978631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)
Frank


LOL, I like it...she will still get me...oh, the pain...the beatings...feeling sorry for me yet?


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: sparkey on August 24, 2013, 07:42:02 pm
 :-)) Hi,Eddie, I think I am in the dog house something about my boats being all over the place,I don't understand what she is on about I think they look great on the dining room table! hope you are feeling better today,Ray :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Netleyned on August 24, 2013, 07:56:45 pm
There's posh you have a dining room table to show off
your models :}
I have to keep mine in the Servants Quarters <*<

Ned
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: sparkey on August 24, 2013, 07:59:07 pm
 :-)) I think if they stay there much longer that's where I will be living,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-)) 
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 25, 2013, 04:03:34 pm
:-)) I think if they stay there much longer that's where I will be living,Ray. :-)) :-)) :-))


Heh heh! My wife will allow no, zero, nada models in the lounge or dining room...apart from my large RC boat...nowhere to put that yet and I am still working on it as there is not enough room in my man-cave (shed).


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 25, 2013, 04:05:46 pm
I have been working out costings and to be honest it looks like they're going to struggle to sell at £20 a pop. Maybe a tenner, but that just covers materials really so just going to make for fun.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Shipmate60 on August 25, 2013, 06:16:14 pm
Si,
If you want to test the water just put the one you have made on ebay.


Bob
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 26, 2013, 01:30:22 pm
Here is the diorama that was designed to sell. Sticking point is: A) pricey. And the most obvious really. B) I am rubbish at painting figures. The jetty and sea look good but the figures let it down, my disability means I struggle at the finer details. Never mind.




Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 26, 2013, 04:35:37 pm
Here is the jetty with the fisherman and net in place. My wife helped with the face details as my hands are too shaky. It's the best it is going to get methinks, not good enough to sell, maybe for a tenner but no more than that so, going to do just do them for fun and family.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: vnkiwi on August 26, 2013, 07:01:10 pm
Very nice, Si:)
I disagree with your comment, re not good enough. Have confidence in your abilities and style.
Your not making one of millions of chinese tat, which by the way come no where near your efforts.
You are making one off hand crafted items, unique to you.
Its a piece of 3D art, look upon your efforts as such.
They are worth, not what you think they are worth, but what the buyer is willing to pay for a piece of unique art.
I myself like them very much.
As to the suggestion of a transparent cover to compliment and keep the dust off, then next time your in the local supermarket, or pound shop, have a look at  all the transparent containers, (with or without contents, which grace the shelves. There are so many of all different styles and shapes, the probability of finding one to suit, I'd say are high. I've done this over the years and paid very little for them, even if the family had to eat the contents first. Just requires a different way at looking at packaging, and you being a keen recycler, should have no problem. The only thing is I get some funny looks as I stand in the supermarket turning various clear containers every which way while mumbling to myself. Think outside the cube, so to speak.
Think Positive, and keep up the fantastic work.
Think twenty five quid for one of your wee diorama jetties is rock bottom. I'd gladly pay that and more for one, if I lived anywhere near the UK.
cheers
vnkiwi  :-))

Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: sparkey on August 26, 2013, 07:22:38 pm
 :-)) I completely agree a great piece of folk art and would look very nice on anyone's sideboard,Eddie you can make some great models more than ever I could do carry on with the good work as I look forward to the next model,Ray. :-)) :-)) 
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 26, 2013, 07:48:08 pm
Very nice, Si:)
I disagree with your comment, re not good enough. Have confidence in your abilities and style.
Your not making one of millions of chinese tat, which by the way come no where near your efforts.
You are making one off hand crafted items, unique to you.
Its a piece of 3D art, look upon your efforts as such.
They are worth, not what you think they are worth, but what the buyer is willing to pay for a piece of unique art.
I myself like them very much.
As to the suggestion of a transparent cover to compliment and keep the dust off, then next time your in the local supermarket, or pound shop, have a look at  all the transparent containers, (with or without contents, which grace the shelves. There are so many of all different styles and shapes, the probability of finding one to suit, I'd say are high. I've done this over the years and paid very little for them, even if the family had to eat the contents first. Just requires a different way at looking at packaging, and you being a keen recycler, should have no problem. The only thing is I get some funny looks as I stand in the supermarket turning various clear containers every which way while mumbling to myself. Think outside the cube, so to speak.
Think Positive, and keep up the fantastic work.
Think twenty five quid for one of your wee diorama jetties is rock bottom. I'd gladly pay that and more for one, if I lived anywhere near the UK.
cheers
vnkiwi  :-))




Bless you, so kind to say so. I know what you're saying makes sense. Thank you  :D


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 26, 2013, 07:54:26 pm
:-)) I completely agree a great piece of folk art and would look very nice on anyone's sideboard,Eddie you can make some great models more than ever I could do carry on with the good work as I look forward to the next model,Ray. :-)) :-))


Ta Ray, very kind to say so. Hopefully another 1/125 scale U-boat wreck...this time to sell, if I get it cheap.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 27, 2013, 01:46:16 pm
Hi Si.
 don`t see much wrong with that doing the face details is alway the hard bit. Don`t know what the scale is but guess at 1/24 when I am trying to do the iris I have a dot of blue paint on the end of piece of wire.  Usually I get one spot on then the other takes three goes to get it right.
 If the head is looking down at what the hands are doing then the face detail don`t matter so much.  Just  a matter of re-branding to this.
  term "Objet D'Art covers a wide range of works, usually small and three-dimensional, of high quality and finish in areas of the decorative arts, not paintings or sculptures.......SORTED...!!!!!!
 what about these ready painted seem to  be  reasonable priced.
  http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_crew.html (http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_crew.html)  thunder tiger figs 
 Frank
 
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Circlip on August 27, 2013, 02:42:50 pm
Listen yer dopey tart, thought we'd bin through all this at Batley?  <*<
 
  T'ony thing is you might have to invest in some matt finish paints for the figures.
 
   Regards  Ian.
 
  Thort orignes were supplied inside the bags?? %)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 27, 2013, 03:22:44 pm
Hi Si.
 don`t see much wrong with that doing the face details is alway the hard bit. Don`t know what the scale is but guess at 1/24 when I am trying to do the iris I have a dot of blue paint on the end of piece of wire.  Usually I get one spot on then the other takes three goes to get it right.
 If the head is looking down at what the hands are doing then the face detail don`t matter so much.  Just  a matter of re-branding to this.
  term "Objet D'Art covers a wide range of works, usually small and three-dimensional, of high quality and finish in areas of the decorative arts, not paintings or sculptures.......SORTED...!!!!!!
 what about these ready painted seem to  be  reasonable priced.
  http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_crew.html (http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/graupner_crew.html)  thunder tiger figs 
 Frank


Hi Frank, looked at those figures before but was unsure of them. Got myself three seated ones for just over a tenner, slightly bigger scale but cheaper than £7 each. Just make the dios slightly bigger. Will just touch-up if need be.


Si:)



Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 27, 2013, 03:25:54 pm
Listen yer dopey tart, thought we'd bin through all this at Batley?  <*<
 
  T'ony thing is you might have to invest in some matt finish paints for the figures.
 
   Regards  Ian.
 
  Thort orignes were supplied inside the bags?? %)


Yes Dad...I'm listening. Maybe I need a thick ear?  :} 




Believe it or not Ian, most of the figure is painted in matt paints, trousers, jacket and hat, with gloss for his wellies and peak of his hat. Of course he has some weathering to his jacket, but it does look shiny, must be the paint as all the highlights are matt too. Don't know what happened there.


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: Circlip on August 27, 2013, 03:30:44 pm
Might have been hit wiv a big wave?
 
  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on August 27, 2013, 03:56:26 pm
Might have been hit wiv a big wave?
 
  Regards  Ian.


Lol, yeah, that's a good excuse  O0


Si:)
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: hmsantrim on August 27, 2013, 06:33:50 pm
 hi Si.
 nowt wrong wi paint lad it can happen its the technique been there.  stir the paint a bit more and apply it a little less thickly.  I have had occasion when painting a figure where having applied the paint it still looks wet a period later but it was dry and had a bit of a sheen on it.
 I had slapped it on too generously instaid of spreading it along the item in a thinner coat. Some times a matt paint item can get a shine from too much handling.
 Frank.   
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: irishcarguy on September 05, 2013, 12:47:37 am
Well done again Eddie, much better than most of of us on the forum could do, certainly better than I could, a lovely bit of folk art, sell for nothing less than 25 pounds & that's a bargain, Mick B. 
Title: Re: FISHERMAN DIORAMA-MAKING SOME TO SELL.
Post by: eddiesolo on September 05, 2013, 10:55:05 am
Well done again Eddie, much better than most of of us on the forum could do, certainly better than I could, a lovely bit of folk art, sell for nothing less than 25 pounds & that's a bargain, Mick B.

Thanks Mick, appreciate the nice comment mate. Think these models are all going to stay with me...just can't bear to part with them now they are built  <:(
 
Si:)