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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: magister on March 29, 2014, 01:02:34 am

Title: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: magister on March 29, 2014, 01:02:34 am
Hi, I have a hull for a rother or oakley lifeboat but I am not sure which one as the metcalf website theres is  41ft

But the one i have is 37ft??

 %% %% %% confused!!
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: McGherkin on March 29, 2014, 01:32:41 am
As far as I am aware, Oakleys came in 37 or 48 feet (mainly 37). Rothers were an adaptation of the Oakley so 37 feet again.

Watsons came in 41 feet.
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: magister on March 29, 2014, 01:40:44 am
so with the hull I have i could build either the Oakley or the Rother then?

If so whats the difference between them?  if any!
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: McGherkin on March 29, 2014, 01:50:39 am
Theoretically yes.

The Oakleys had a well deck up forward, whereas the Rothers had a survivor cabin. The Rothers also had a fully enclosed wheelhouse.

I happen to have a model of an Oakley, RNLB Lloyds II, so if you need pictures then just ask  ok2
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: magister on March 29, 2014, 02:20:40 am
That sounds great :-)) , I will take a picture of what I have and you guys can see.
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: Netleyned on March 29, 2014, 04:01:54 pm


Watsons came in 41 feet.

Other sizes were available {-)

Ned
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: Neil on March 29, 2014, 06:23:01 pm
That sounds great :-)) , I will take a picture of what I have and you guys can see.

Hi Magister....just got your message now the site is back up....the Clyde lifeboat mouldings are now produced by Models by design..........but all the resin fittings are now copyright, courtesy of Speedline Models, aka FLUNDLE/Adrian Gosling on here..........I sold him the moulds to the fittings and the copyright a couple of years ago, and if you ask him he can cast them for you
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: morley bill 1 on March 29, 2014, 06:45:51 pm
the Metcalfe hull is measured BP between perpendiculers that's why it mesures 41 inch long    bill.....
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: Neil on March 29, 2014, 07:01:54 pm
Bill........all lifeboats were measured BP in their original guise, as all the double ender lifelboats had their rudders on the outside of the stern rudder post, unless modified with the rudder being placed inside the deadwood on some specials for the stations they were at.......the 41' boat is a totally different hull to the Rother/Oakley.....different profiles at all sections as well as obvious length.
Modern lifeboats are measured LOA
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: McGherkin on March 30, 2014, 10:25:26 pm
Other sizes were available {-)

Ned

I thought the OP may have been looking at one in the original post, hence why I only mentioned the 41 feet ;)

Oh, and a couple of Oakley model pictures, sadly the builder (my grandfather) is no longer with us, but his models live on (this one's nearly 25 years old!)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17905285/LloydsII/DSCF2132.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17905285/LloydsII/DSCF2117.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17905285/LloydsII/DSCF2122.png)

Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: Neil on March 30, 2014, 10:43:37 pm
superb...what a craftsman and when kits just weren't available, :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Oakley Rother lifeboat are they the same
Post by: baloo on May 16, 2014, 05:46:48 pm
Oakley & Rother hulls are slightly different. The Rother hull is 37' 5" long and the Oakley hull is 37' long, 6" difference(don't tell the wife) but they are slightly different you can buy the Oakley (ROTHER) hull(37.5" 1/12 scale) from models by design and you can buy the Oakley hull (37" 1/12 SCALE) from scooner models in skelmasdale( my spelling is rubbish)

Martin