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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: midori gaoka on October 19, 2014, 05:55:41 pm
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Hello everybody,
After a long reflexion, I've decided to build.....another ferry
The ship went out of the Dutchshipyard Van der Noord to the Netherlands on March 16th, 2002 with a length of 174 m, a width of 28.5 m, she can carry at the speed of 22 knots 2200 passengers and 830 cars or 118 trucks as well. The Ouistreham-Portsmouth line on which the Mont Saint-Michel operates, is one of the busiest Brittany-Ferries lines. I chose 1/100 scale, the same as my other Ferries, Barfleur and Brittany. My model will have 2 active bow thruster, a speed controller for each propelle, the opening of doors....
Next photos will follow
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A very interesting project. I have travelled on the ship a number of times.
Colin
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Hello
You have picked a very nice ferry. looks like you have made a great start to your project. I assume you are doing a plank on frame . Will this make it very hard to get working bow doors ?
John
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A photo I took of her back in 2006.
Colin
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Make it fast. Brittany Lines have two new ferries coming into service in 2017. One of them will be replacing the current flagship Pont Aven. I don't know which the second is to replace. I did read that they both incorporate new energy saving propulsion systems. The Pont Aven is the ferry to Northern Spanish port of Santander, the Cap Finisterre sails to Bilbao. This is the time of year Brittany seem to dock most of the fleet for refits now that the bulk of the holiday season is over.
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Make it fast. Brittany Lines have two new ferries coming into service in 2017. One of them will be replacing the current flagship Pont Aven. I don't know which the second is to replace. I did read that they both incorporate new energy saving propulsion systems. The Pont Aven is the ferry to Northern Spanish port of Santander, the Cap Finisterre sails to Bilbao. This is the time of year Brittany seem to dock most of the fleet for refits now that the bulk of the holiday season is over.
Not true I'm afraid. The Pegasis project to provide one new ferry is currently on hold as the funding cannot be put together. There was never a second planned newbuild to my knowledge. As far as the remainder of the fleet is concerned, several were to have been converted to LNG but that also seems to be off as well. Normandie, Mont St Michel, Armorique, Pont Aven, Cap Finisterre and Barfleur are now due to have scrubbers fitted as a cheaper option to meet emission regs. Bretagne's engines would cost more to convert so she is likely to be shifted to the Roscoff route where she will only have to burn low sulphur fuel (diesel) for part of her voyages. She was due to be taken out of service around 2017 if the Pegasis ship was ready but all bets are off at the moment. The future of the Economie service from Portsmouth to Le Havre using Etretrat is also in doubt now that DFDS are pulling out of the route themselves.
Things are currently in a state of flux and BF are asking for an extension of the emission regs timetable as burning diesel will cost them a lot of money. 50% extra by some accounts.
Colin
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Oh, this looks very promising! I'll definitely follow this build, you build first class ferry models!
All the best!
Hama
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Well that's interesting Colin and a complete U turn on Brittany's part! My info came from a leaflet on the Cap Finisterre in May, a nice coloured brochure showing where they were advancing with the fleet. Having said that any increase to the fares (northern Spain/Portsmouth or Plymouth) would I fear lose them custom. While the fare seems cheap you have to add in the price of a cabin ours in May cost us £118 on top of the fare and then the evening meal as well. The a la carte menu would cost around £60 per head for the full works! Our one way trip cost us a tad over £400 (no a la carte, just used the sandwich bar) :o thank God its subsidised by both the trucking operation and the French government.
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Hello everybody,
I use a stapler and some wood glue to fix plank. At the end of 2 hours I can begin to remove staple. I take poplar plank of different widths to marry as good as possible the hull.
Sometimes, I need to use some clamp where hull is to much curve
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Well that's interesting Colin and a complete U turn on Brittany's part!
I suspect that BF thought they would get a stay of execution. There has been plenty of prior warning about this.
When it comes to EU rulings, the French do tend to pick and choose which ones they comply with and seem to have come a bit unstuck in this instance!
You are quite right that the fares issue is very sensitive. The Western Channel and Spanish routes have never been cheap and a lot of people look very closely at the alternatives using Dover to Calais which entail a lot of additional driving plus the costs of overnight stops. Many people also avoid the western routes as they don't like being on a ship for long periods.
Whilst Brittany Ferries fares can be very high in peak season in particular, there are often good bargains to be had if you book ferry inclusive accommodation through them. Much of this is in their popular Normandy and Brittany regions though and there is less choice than there used to be in other regions of France. Some years ago we got a real bargain holiday with a week in a hotel with a sea view room overlooking the bay of Villefranche on the Riviera. The total cost of the holiday including overnight en route stops was less than the hotel rack rent for the week!
We still travel two or three times a year with BF, usually on short breaks or 24 hour excursions where there are good deals to be had.
Colin
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Good morning,
Now, the hull is fully covered with board. One of the most difficult part to shape is the bow bulb, I glued 2 pieces of balsa (wood with a light density). I pasted long time to sand the hull before covering with fiberglass and epoxy resin.
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Hello everybody,
I've decided to delay epoxy resin inside the hull in order to avoid a drilled hull and to strenghen it in the same time. After that, ouside I delay few car putty coats. It took me a long time to sand it, but the result is good. It's time for me to thanks Hibou marin a Mayhem forum member, who send me several photos to improve my model. This help was welcomed specially with dry dock photos.
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Very nice build!
Found this and thought it might be of interest to you, but I know you make it better yourself!
All the best!
Hama
http://m.blocket.se/stockholm/Fartygsmodell_Brittany_Ferries__Val_de_Loire_57050986.htm?ca=11&w=3
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Thank you Hama,
I ' ve never seen this model before, it looks great. One of my project was to take out stabilizers from when the boat left the quay . Each one will be connected to a micro servo.The mecanism is in brass. I have installed a tube upper than height in the drift line .
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Hi
the build is going well. My friend Paul who made the 1:100 Finnjet made working stabilizers on his and they could retract . I know it a bit late for your model
page 11 of his photo bucket account,hope fully the link will take you there.
john
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/paularai/library/?sort=3&start=80&page=11
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Thank you John for your link,
It's pleasant to see another work from a ferry maker. It's time for me to settle rudders on the hull. I've decided to paint them before displaying in order to airbrushing each part.
They are fixed to the rest of the hull with araldite glue .
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Lovely looking model so far. Keep up the good work. watching eagerly
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Good evening,
It 's time for me to display electricity inside the model. It took me a long time, but I did not regret because it seems more clear. After that,I settled the rudder mecanism inside.I used one servo for each rudder. They are joined with an Y futaba wire. The stabilisator system is now completed. One of my future project is a 1/100 pilot boat. So , I ve decided to create an acces to the pilot. For that, I can control the door opening and a sailor movement.
More photos soon.
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Hello Everybody,
I've forgot to tell you what a beautifull present I've received on the 24th december.... an E-mail from Brittany Ferries. I was allowed to visit the Mont Saint Michel in Cherbourg on the same day and take any photos I wished. The crew was very happy to see someone on the 24th december and ask me many things about my model. I' m working on the the front bridge. It's hard to build just with a plan, fortunally I ve got lots of photos.
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Very nice "clean" build, your attention to detail is amazing!
The little sailor meeting the pilot is a nice feature!
Keep up the good work, following with great interest.
Hama
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Wow!
She is bigger than my shed, what a build. Keep the photos coming your skills put us to shame, well done great work.
Cheers,
Peter. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Thank you for your comments,
I've progressed on the ship front. In the same time, I 've worked on the hull in order to design the bottom door.
More photos are coming
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Hi
the detail you are doing is very impressive . Your build looks great
john
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Hello everybody,
During the last days, I've worked on each side. Each one is made with plasticard sheet with 1 mm width. I took me lots of time to sand Window's angles.
More photos are coming
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Now THERE'S patience for you!!!!
Lovely work there - I find that the window openings on a ship can either 'make or break' the model.
Looking forward to seeing the progress on this...... :-))
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The side you have made are very nice. the windows look spot on
john
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Hello every modellers,
The front part of the ship takes form. The rounded off parts were obtained by warming the plastic sheet with a hairdryer. I began to ballast the ship with lead which I poured. Every block weighs approximately 200 g
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Looking really good!
Hama
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Today, the upper garage !
Hello everybody, the garage is not my cup of tea. It was not easy to fix the sides to the hull and respect an 90° angle to the bridge.In the same time I 've started to build the funnels.
More photos are coming
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hello
very very nice . she is looking great . I get to go on her next month .
john
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Stunning! Brilliant work! Been on her many times, looking forward to the next instalment.
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There is some fantastic detail work going on here. I can't wait to see more of this model as it progresses.
By the way I sail back to Spain in 10 days time aboard the Cap Finisterre. I'll try and take some photo's you never know they may come in handy for somebody.
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Looking really great, excellent work watching with great interest. :-)) :-))
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Some stunning work here :-)) I have a feeling that this will be a masterpiece when finished O0
Will you be heading to 'Gazouland' this year? Unfortunately, I cant make it....but it is in the diary for next year and will bring along our ferries :-))
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How is the build going?
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Hello,
Sorry for the delay but I had some work to complete at home. I have worked on the front of the model. I ve opened the outside access and build the gangway. More photos are coming
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Hello,
I've worked on davits. It was not my cup of tea, because i did not see how many details they have. One is made in brass, because I would like to move up and down a liferaft.
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Good Afternoon,
I 've decided to make 2 davits block, it was easier to paint separetely than in the same time with the hull.I used an model acrylic paint.
More photos are coming
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Hi
Your life boat davits are very nice .
John
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Good evening,
I have added a photo of my liferaft up and down mecanism. During last days, I have prepared the model to painting. I would like to paint next week-end if i get the white paint.
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looking very nice . The white paint will make the model change over night . You life boat meck looks very good . would you be able to do a video when you have finished the life boat?
john
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Hello,
Thank you for your comments. As promissed, Le Mont saint Michel has been paint this week-end. I used car paint, I don't know if next time, I would use it. It's hard to paint with an airbrush.
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This build is so amazing and you're really talented!
Can't wait for next update.
Hama
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Hello,
After using meters and meters of adhesive tape, It was time to paint. 3 hours of masking, and 3 minutes of painting,th rates of pleasure is very low.
More photos are coming
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Brilliant! Looking fantastic, can't wait for the next picture update!
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Hi Midori
Looking very good. Know the feeling on the masking .
john
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Hello,
I need some help. I receiced it with my F14 FUTABA remote control bought on eBay. But I don't know how to use it, how to plug it. Does anyone used it before ?
Thanks for any answers.
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Hi Midori
I will try and help with my limited knowledge.
1st you have an early F14 as you have channels 1 to 7 later ones were 1 to 8. I know this from experience this may have an effect on answer 2 .
2nd in you photo it show X3 proportional inputs and X3 switched inputs ,total 6 channels . From what little knowledge I have I think you will need an encode + decoder module ,sorry more cost .
I would recommenced you repost this request in the Raido section of the forum as you might get more response.
I watch you thread as I have an interest in ferries .
john
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Thank you for your help John,
It's hard to complete a F14 or F16 Futaba remote control, because it is nearly impossible to find a multiswitch on internet.
So, let's back to the paint. It's finish, I will nearly order "Brittany ferries" inscription. In few day, I will follow "the sea" trial.
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Superb!! A work of genius!!
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Thank you for your help John,
It's hard to complete a F14 or F16 Futaba remote control, because it is nearly impossible to find a multiswitch on internet.
So, let's back to the paint. It's finish, I will nearly order "Brittany ferries" inscription. In few day, I will follow "the sea" trial.
Hi
your paint looks great. Try Ebay.DE (Germany ) normal a fair bit on there. Use the words F14 Robbe
john
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Thank you for your help,
There's a great choice, i should find my happyness on it. So I promissed, the first mont saint michel trial.
More photos are coming
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I ve forgott this photo.
Bye
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:-)) :-)) Looks the part for sure.
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Beautiful workmanship - and wonderful to see another model ferry take to the water :-)) :-)) :-))
I do love the touch with the tug in attendance - just like real ship practice!!!!
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Thank you for your comments,
Some more photos about the middle of the ship,under this part, I am going to place switches and plugs for loading batteries .
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This is truly brilliant!
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Very impressive!
Hama
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Love it!!! Amazing work!!!
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Hello
Very nice. Can I ask how you did the safety cage on the ladder.
John
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Hello everybody,
I found these ladders on hobby lobby modelbau website, they possess holes on each side. I bend stalks of plastics strips of 0.3 mm which I stick with cyanoacrylate. I present you photos of the front of the ship.
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Hello,
I used many plasticard profiles to make the mast. In order to curve some piece, I took an hair dryer.
More photos are coming
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that mast is a beautiful piece of modelling :-))
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Seconded, brilliant workmanship.
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Hello,
I received stickers last week, and then the model has changed. Next week, I will sail with mont saint michel at Cherbourg model boat exhibition.
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Absolutely stunning! Superb workmanship! Looking forward to seeing her in action.
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A masterpiece of workmanship.
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Beautiful......simply beautiful :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Best of luck with her maiden voyage O0 .
Will we ever see any of your models in the UK?
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very nice . The paint and Transfers have transformed her. Looking great
John
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Hello,
Last week end, for a second time, The Mont Saint Michel sailed but in a small pool. The two bowthrusters worked together, and gave a good manoeuvrability. I need to add more lead in the hull front. For once, Bretagne and Mont Saint Michel was on water in the same time. Now, I'm improving the lorry garage by sticking more LED'S, and changing the lorry moving. More photos are coming.
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Hello
She is looking great. Seeing the pair of them on the water together looks great
john
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Fabulous!!!!!!! O0 O0 O0 :-))
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An amazing build, they are a credit to your superb modelling skills
Mark
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Hello
:-)) Great job - Then she will be like a piece of the old days - the Mont Saint Michel received now a third funnel between the two originals.
Xtian
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Hello,
The light is on. I have connected some micro-LED's, And I must admit result is not too bad. I ve started on davids blocks.
More photos are coming about the lorries garage.
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Hi
Looking very nice .
john
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Hello,
The light is on, not just on the davits blocks but also in the lorries garage. I 've displayed a mechanism in order to exit an English livestock lorry. This one is a friend's present. I 've apprecieted it a lot because it's not so easy to find English, irish or french lorries.
On partition's wall garage, I 've transfered decals which are nearly similar as the real.
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Wonderful detail!!!!! :-))
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Looking very nice .
john
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Thank you for your comments,
Now , it 's time to start lifeboat's modelling. I used the bread and butter technic. I 've shaped a master in light wood such as balsa. I did not have many plans to complete it, so my photos help me a litlle bit.
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Hello,
Masters in plaster are now already. It's time to me to me to fix each part.The cover of rafts comes from paper of chocolate.
Handrails are made in 0.3 mm brass.It is necessary to reproduce this 4 times.
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wow. just wow. your attention to detail is astounding and amazing. Brilliant work.
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A very nice model you have there :-) :-))
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Thank you for your comments,
I used same technic to shape 2 "free fall" hull's. I've sprayed paint with airbrush in 3 times.
The next step , I would add decals and some détails.
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Hi
she is looking very good . Like the way you are doing the lifeboats.
John
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Hi,
Détails are on the way. I have made belts with some paper of cigarette to be rolled. Ropes comes from stalks of brass folded by a 0.1 mm diameter.
More photos are coming
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I have just found this thread and am impressed with the detail and finish of your models Midori.
I like the little bits like the pilot and lorry that add realism and noit alittle intrigue for the viewer.
A video of these working would be great!
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Hello everybody,
Lifeboats are on board. I 've tried to detail them as much as I could. One of them can be lifted to water. I've added more LED's on each side. I've found few crews, but they should be on next photos.
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Stunning work, can't wait to see more!
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Absolutley amayzing, cant wait to see it in the whole
Mark
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Wow your detail work is great :-)) ok2 :-)
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Amazing
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Absolutely agree on what's been said! O0
Hama
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Truly inspiring workmanship - congratulations. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Good evening,
This is my last davit. This one take place near the starboard funnel . I think this liferaft is used by the officer in order to check an abadoning ship.
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Looking excellent! I like the Davit, exceptional detail.
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A beautiful little model on it's own that is - quality. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Exquisite detail :-))
Whilst it would have been nice to have achieved such detail on the Free Enterprise V kit, I took the view that I would leave it to the modeller to decide how far he/she wanted to take the realism. The basics will be there..............
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Thank you for comments,
At the beginning of May, it will make two years that I began the model. I think of having begun a too long project, I do not think of redoing of so big model.
But for the moment, I still making a command boat.
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Hello,
I had some photos about the last Mont saint michel's sailing. She is nearly finished, and I become impatient to complete her. No more ferries..
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Simply brilliant! Have to finish my HMS Plymouth now so I get get the Norland when its released!
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Looks amazing. What is the overall length ? Would love to see this in action
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Simply brilliant! Have to finish my HMS Plymouth now so I get get the Norland when its released!
Who and when.is this being released ? Sounds good
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Very Nice . looks great on water . Pont Aven next LOL .
john
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Looks amazing. What is the overall length ? Would love to see this in action
She is 1:100 so 1.74m long
john
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Who and when.is this being released ? Sounds good
Here's a couple of links for you: www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28467.0.html
www.linkspanmodels.co.uk/lm002.html
These should give you the necessary info and will inspire you. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Here's a couple of links for you: www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28467.0.html
www.linkspanmodels.co.uk/lm002.html
These should give you the necessary info and will inspire you. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
Thank you Ray :-))
Here is the thread specific to the Norland development:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,29834.0.html
Midori's work on his Mont St. Michel is truly outstanding and just goes to show what can be achieved with time and patience - even 'everyday' vessels such as ferries can make beautiful models!
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Superb result, well done.
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Hello,
Smoke is on' the water.. I have tried the smoke generator , and the result was good. I did not add another one in the other funnel, it was a shame. Normally, I should complete it for the end of the month
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A little 'Y' junction might do it. ok2
ken
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Hello,
This week, I've found time to progress on my model. I spent time on winches area on both sides. I'm looking for more preiser figures
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You're certainly bringing her to life now - looking forward to more of this one. :-)
Regards,
Ray.
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man I wish I had talent like this to build some of the ferries I sail on... love the build!