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Title: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 12, 2015, 10:04:04 pm
Hi all. I am building Tenby lifeboat based on a Speedline models kit.  I purchased my kit in May 2012 and have been working through steadily. The kit has proven to be challenging to say the least! I have been model boating for some 35 years and have built a wide range of models. I am approximately 80% through the build and hope to have her sailing this coming summer. I will post some pictures when I work out how to resize my files!!! Alan.






Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 12, 2015, 11:05:01 pm
Hi all. I am building Tenby lifeboat based on a Speedline models kit.  I purchased my kit in May 2012 and have been working through steadily. The kit has proven to be challenging to say the least! I have been model boating for some 35 years and have built a wide range of models. I am approximately 80% through the build and hope to have her sailing this coming summer. I will post some pictures when I work out how to resize my files!!! Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Neil on January 12, 2015, 11:53:26 pm
looking beautiful.........keep at it Alan..........it's going to be a stunner. :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 13, 2015, 10:38:48 am

That's very neat.    :-))

Are you panning on spraying it  ?  I was thinking of the brasswork installed that might be a hindrance.

cheers

ken
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 13, 2015, 08:17:58 pm
Hi Ken. You are right about the painting it would be a nightmare!! But at present nothing is fixed so it can be painted and then fixed in to place. The superstructure is almost ready for its colour coats.


Cheers Alan  :-))


Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 13, 2015, 08:20:43 pm
Thanks Neil.  Who said building model boats was easy??  %%
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 13, 2015, 08:34:29 pm
Here are some more current pictures.         
               


        Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: carlmt on January 13, 2015, 09:22:30 pm
That IS stunning!!! :-))
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Post by: Atlantic Mouldings on January 13, 2015, 09:31:34 pm
looking very nice  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: derekwarner on January 13, 2015, 09:41:20 pm
Hi Alan......is that elaborate brass cross mast over the flying bridge your handy work  :o...is so...a beautiful construction  :-))... Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Neil on January 13, 2015, 11:39:56 pm
a beautiful construction  :-))... Derek

it most certainly is.neil.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Rottweiler on January 14, 2015, 01:03:15 am
That is one to be really proud of Alan.A superb paint job so far as well!
Mick F
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on January 14, 2015, 10:33:25 pm
Hi Derek.  It is all my own work. One of the most complex brass work parts of the build.  %%  Something like 20 hrs work. It sounds a lot but  was worth it to get it something like.
 
Regards Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 19, 2015, 09:47:45 pm
Hi Alan,

No problem with the photos this end......  :-))

(http://u.cubeupload.com/Mayhem1/aIgXIV.jpg)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 03, 2015, 11:21:18 pm
Here are a few more pics of ongoing work. Y boat is completed. Finished the detail work on flying bridge door.


Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 03, 2015, 11:27:37 pm
I have formed deck light recesses in the front of the superstructure moulding.


Alan

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on February 04, 2015, 08:04:01 am
Absolutely amazing attention to detail Alan
The door and hatch look real and the Y boat
looks like it's ready to go.

Ned
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 06, 2015, 04:32:56 pm
I have finished all I can think of to do prior to painting.  Time for paint......  :-))


Alan  :-)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 09, 2015, 09:46:00 pm
Hi all.
 I have made good progress with the painting this weekend. 3 coats vw brilliant orange. Applied decals finished with 3 coats of clear laquer.


Cheers Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 14, 2015, 07:55:38 am
Hi all. 
I have started adding some detailing parts to the superstructure the last couple of nights. Here are a couple of pictures  :-))


Cheers Alan







Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on February 14, 2015, 08:46:47 am
Lovely build Alan, hope mine turns out half as nice
Mike   :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: petermun on February 14, 2015, 10:12:22 am
I am building a scratch-built Tyne class lifeboat, but I look at yours, then at mine, and I feel like putting mine in the bin, (but of course I won`t), just have to live in awe of modellers like you.   Well done!   Pete
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 14, 2015, 06:17:49 pm
Thanks for your kind words guys. Model boat building has taught me many things... Patience being at the top of the list  :-)) .


Kind regards.  Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Atlantic Mouldings on February 14, 2015, 09:34:08 pm
Looking really good , keep it up  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 22, 2015, 10:25:03 pm
I have now fitted the steps  and completed some other detailing this weekend.  :-)








Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: SailorGreg on February 23, 2015, 08:15:36 am
Lovely!!   :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 23, 2015, 10:29:47 am


What a beautiful piece of work.

Well done Sir.     :-))


ken
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on February 26, 2015, 06:45:46 pm
Haven't done much this week just finished the life rafts.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: craggle on February 26, 2015, 07:15:51 pm
Fantastic build Alan, looks great.

I'm hoping to order the Speedline 1/12th Severn sometime this side of the summer, Seeing these pictures makes me want to order it sooner! :-)

Craig.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Robin smith on February 26, 2015, 09:52:40 pm
Make sure if you do order the Severn you get sufficient dummy 14BA bolt heads with the kit to complete.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on March 02, 2015, 02:16:30 pm
Alan I've been admiring the excellent paint work, what are you using and what method if you don't mind me asking??

Mike
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: 49perkasa on March 02, 2015, 02:46:09 pm
Amazing job,really impressive.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 02, 2015, 08:35:49 pm
Hi mike.


I have used halfords spray paints for most things and humbrol enamels for small detail areas. I aim to have the prime coats as good as I can manage and then apply the colour coats lightly. The hull for example was 3 primer coats making good any defects until I was happy with the finish. Next stage was mask off above the water line. The White was built up with 5 light coats. I removed the masking tape after 8 or so hours then left it for a week to harden. You end up with a raised area where the tape sat this I carefully blended out. Re mask below water line and then 5 coats of blue. De mask and after a week I wet and dried the whole hull and gloss laquerd (3 coats) Dust is the real enemy of a good finish so I always use tack cloths


Hope this helps Alan  :-))



Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 02, 2015, 08:43:50 pm
Forgot to say I always apply my lettering then laquer over. This helps blend them in I think.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on March 03, 2015, 09:51:16 am
Hi Alan
Thanks for sharing that, is it the Halfords lacquer that you use? A few more weeks and I should be ready for the hull.
Cheers
Mike 
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: sailorboy61 on March 03, 2015, 11:00:46 am
Cracking piece of work! You must be justifiably proud.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 03, 2015, 05:31:46 pm
Hi Mike
 
I have used Halfords laquer. I learnt a very hard lesson where I mixed brands. I ended up with a crazy paving finish!!! It took about 3 months to develop and a lot of work to put right  >>:-(


Hope that helps.


Alan  :-))

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on March 04, 2015, 08:32:40 am
Hi Alan
It certainly does help.
Many Thanks
Mike
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on March 06, 2015, 05:03:20 pm
Hi Alan

Off to Halfords in the morning spend a wedge  {:-{
I keep looking at your photos and cant make out whether its gloss on the deck (grey) or undercoat sprayed with lacquer ??
Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 06, 2015, 06:48:48 pm
Hi mike.


You are almost right about my deck!!  Here are a few pics.   I used Rustolium stone effect finish for a grip effect (mask where required) slightly flat then 2 Halfords primer followed by 3 halfords satin lacquer . No sanding between coats you lose the grippy effect.  :-))  The deck colour varies Tenby's is quite light and prime was the best match I found.


Regards Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on March 06, 2015, 07:02:15 pm
 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Mike
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: GAZOU on March 06, 2015, 07:13:26 pm
 :-))

Another extraterrestrial, but which man he is to make it
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Atlantic Mouldings on March 06, 2015, 08:28:02 pm
Superb , love the finish to the deck. :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: derekwarner on March 06, 2015, 08:28:55 pm
 :-)...I think our dear friend GAZOU was trying to say...........

Un autre extraterrestre, mais quel homme il est pour le rendre :-))

:o makes a lot more sense in it's natural tongue........  {-) Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 07, 2015, 10:52:01 am


Merci'    Derek


Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: GAZOU on March 07, 2015, 03:09:02 pm
Merci DERECK    %) {-)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Mark T on March 07, 2015, 03:55:16 pm
That is an absolutely beautiful boat  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 08, 2015, 08:53:14 pm
I have been struggling with the rear emergency escape hatch today. In the speedline kit you have an etched stainless hinge plate and a base plate. I decided to make a styrene secondary plate to match the full size. Small brass pins for the screw details. A bit of brass tube for the hinge.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 10, 2015, 07:07:25 am
I have now made and added the six deck lights and added some detail parts. Just wipers and capstans to finish.
Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: derekwarner on March 10, 2015, 07:21:28 am
Alan....I am not sure how to say this  :embarrassed: ....but I think you may need to get one of those 500 ml hand held water pump packs ....fill it with sea water diluted down to the scale ratio of the model......& gently spray over the vessel.......

 ;) ...as GAZOU said........ Un autre extraterrestre, mais quel homme il est pour le rendre :-))

Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 10, 2015, 09:02:24 pm
Hi Derek. 
I have ordered a bottle of 1/12 sea water from Amazon  ;)  to test you're idea out lol.


Regards Alan  ok2
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 13, 2015, 05:47:55 pm
I am working on the mast at the moment.To anyone that may be interested here are some pics of it under construction.
I made a shaped timber block to start  profiled  off the speedline drawing. The mast you will notice is angled forwards  a few degrees but the radar platform and cross members are all level. Also the  main mast has to be set perfectly plumb As any error will stand out a mile!!  For the cross members half rounds were filed in to their ends to set over the main tubes. All was then mounted on the former and soldered up.








Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 13, 2015, 05:50:53 pm
Once the main frame was together the sharp angled cuts were made and then dressed on my disc sander.
The etched hinge sections were then added.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 13, 2015, 05:53:37 pm
It was then a case of adding the radar platform and main mast and its supports.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 13, 2015, 06:13:20 pm
All my soldering on the Tamar has been completed with my trusty Aldis mini torch and the Carrs products shown in the picture. The solder is brilliant stuff!!


Primed and painted Halfords satin black.  :-))


Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Mark T on March 13, 2015, 06:33:17 pm
Alan that really is a truly beautiful piece of metal work - It deserves chroming instead of painting  :-)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: derekwarner on March 13, 2015, 08:06:26 pm
alan44 says......."The solder is brilliant stuff!"....we have discussed this before....the artisan is also doing a brilliant job! :-))......     Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: pipster on March 14, 2015, 04:25:41 pm
Alan, your boat's looking fantastic, well done.  I just wish I'd thought of using a jig for the mast on my Tamar; I used graph paper and a variety of squares which took ages to get the angles right!
Phil
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 14, 2015, 05:42:23 pm
Thanks Phil.


Am I right in thinking you are the chap building the Tamar with the on line blog? If so its looking good so far. Not sure my internal detailing will be up to that standard  :-)
 
Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: pipster on March 15, 2015, 07:19:20 pm
Hi Alan,


Yup, it's my blog of the (Model Slipway) Tamar build.  Thanks for your kind works; if your cabin detail ends up as good as your build so far, you've nothing to worry about!
Phil
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 19, 2015, 10:01:58 pm
I tend to work on many areas of my boats at the same time This week I have fitted the mob cranes . I have also been detailing the windscreen prior to final fix. The kit supplies 16 brass etchings/ Perspex parts. The bolt detail is recreated by drilling holes in the main outer frame. There is an etched mark at each bolt position. For the bolts I used brass pins I found in hobby craft.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: hama on March 20, 2015, 11:30:14 am
Just been through the whole thread, wow what a crazy build! Absolutely stunning work, keep at it!
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on March 20, 2015, 11:01:43 pm
Thanks Hama.
All the best
Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 13, 2015, 09:04:39 pm
I have been busy of late and the boat has been a bit neglected.  Sometimes you have to re build your enthusiasm... Anyway I have been finishing off the main aerials and mob cranes.
I have now hinged the transom door and am working on the trim tabs. The exhaust ports are a bit of a pain in that the backs are flat but the transom isn't.....  The things you don't see until too late  >>:-(
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: del7317 on April 16, 2015, 07:04:16 pm
Hi Alan looking great what paint or coating have you used on your transom door hinges and bits.
Thanks Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 17, 2015, 07:07:54 pm
Hi Derek
In answer to your question the hinges etc are not painted. I nickel plated them. It's a quite straight foreward thing to do. .... My wife thinks I am nuts though!!!  %%


Regards  Alan.  :-))

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 19, 2015, 09:38:30 pm
Hi all I have made some good progress this weekend.
I have finished and fitted :-
Hooks and covers.
Safety lines.
Mast support assemblies.
Aerial  support brackets.
 
Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Akers on April 22, 2015, 04:22:17 pm
Hi Which nickle plating kit did you use?
many thanks Akers
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 22, 2015, 04:31:34 pm
Quote
I nickel plated them. It's a quite straight forward thing to do. ....

Yeah, come on Alan, don't leave us hanging like that!!! 
Full process please<*<
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: SailorGreg on April 22, 2015, 06:21:15 pm
Perhaps Alan used one of these?

http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/new-category-1/ (http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/new-category-1/)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 22, 2015, 09:54:49 pm
Hi guys.
Nickel plating ... You do have to throw a bit of cash at it. I bought a kit from gaterosplating. Basically it's a bucket full of chemicals, a battery charger, some copper wire, a fish tank air blower(for agitating the chemicals when plating , plating annodes, distiller water. I am making a pair of Rams for the mast at the min. I intent to plate these and will put some pics on here.


So tonight I made the Rams from 4mm copper tube (no stock brass) soldered a sleeve inside the 4mm tube of 3mm tube to reduce the bore to 2mm. I made the upper part from 2mm rod with a sleeve soldered on. I the cross drilled for 1.5mm hinge pins.  You may have gathered I do not intend to remote the main mast.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 26, 2015, 09:39:21 pm
I have plated the Rams today. Components to be plated need to be surgically clean and polished. They are then pickled in an acid solution to chemically clean them. The 1st picture shows the tank set up. The electrolyte is heated with a fish tank heater. The components are suspended in the solution with copper wire hung off the copper tube. The wiring diagram shows the circuit. It took 20 mins to plate the Rams as shown.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 26, 2015, 09:41:30 pm
I will add some hydraulic lines to finish them.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 04, 2015, 10:11:50 pm
Hi all


I have been working on completing the internals of the superstructure  today.  The entire seating Floor is removeable. I have seat belts to make up and the main control panel to fit. It's Nearly all painted black in there so I don't think much will be seen.  When all seats are fitted to the base plate it simply fits in to the superstructure frame and I have made up some tabs to secure it.  :-))


Regards Alan.











Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 09, 2015, 08:21:38 pm
Windows are now glazed,dash board fitted ,and window wipers are done. So much work in a speedline kit but so much fun!!!  :-))


Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on May 10, 2015, 10:44:27 pm
You are doing an amazingly great job of it Alan, I have been following it very close. I have to agree the Speedline kit is first class all the way & now it looks like Adrian & Ann have really upped the service too, which is good as it does set a very high mark in Lifeboat kits. I have the kit too but because of ill health have not started on it. However I now have all the necessary information including the Disc & loads of photos sent to me by Adrian Clutterbuck & a few other people as well, plus the offer of more help when I need it. ( And need I will) I found the brass bolts made in Poland of high quality & cheap too. They also sell the nuts to fit & have very reasonable shipping costs. Cheers, Mick B.   
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Neil on May 10, 2015, 10:56:05 pm
truly magnificent work.............very envious of your skills...............jaw dropping stuff.

neil.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 10, 2015, 11:08:54 pm
Hi mick.
After three years of on and off work my Tamar is nearly complete. I had no idea of how much time and commitment I would need to finish a model boat!  It has and still is a most rewarding hobby.  Speedline I feel have had some bad press in the past I personally have not had any reason for complaint. When you build a kit such as the Tamar the deeper you move in to the build the more you appreciate the work that Adrian and his associates have put in to the kit. I must admit that when I received my kit I was somewhat dissapointed! But if you consider build hours against pounds for the kit it is very reasonably priced.  :-))


if I can offer any help with your build Mick just ask.


Kind regards Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 10, 2015, 11:10:39 pm
Thanks for your very kind words Neil.


Alan.  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 10, 2015, 11:16:08 pm
The bow almost completed. 


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 20, 2015, 09:20:21 pm
I have made some progress with the upper control panels this week.  :-))   I need to find a miniature compass from somewhere.  I had no dummy bolts for the engine covers with my kit. There are about 180 needed do any of you guys know of a supplier?


Alan.


Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 20, 2015, 09:28:01 pm
Here's where they fit.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: del7317 on May 21, 2015, 08:10:46 am
Hi Alan
   modellingtimbers.co.uk do working compass in your scale and brass bolts hope that helps
  Regards Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 21, 2015, 10:27:00 pm
Hi Derek  thanks for that. I will give them a look  :-))


Regards Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mk1 on May 23, 2015, 01:50:23 am
Hi try these http://www.knupfer-grossbahn.de/ I used there bolts etc on my Mersey 1st class my be a bit on the pricey side but looking at your model shame to spoil it.

John
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 24, 2015, 11:22:28 pm
Thanks for the tip John. 


Regards Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on June 23, 2015, 11:06:11 pm
Not much work done since my last post. I have managed to finish the deck covers and fix in place.


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on June 25, 2015, 10:36:55 pm
Hi all. A bit more progress the last few nights. I have fitted the exhaust ports to the transom, final fixed all railing and stanchions........  Nearly there!!!!


Regards Alan  :-))


Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 01, 2015, 10:07:49 pm
The last few nights I Have completed all of the guard lines. I sent for some turnbuckles from RB model they were the smallest they do and also some shackles- also the smallest. I also made out of 15 amp fuse wire some connecting links. I have added a bit of detail to the fenders. I cut some 5mm brass tube in to  3 mm lengths.... What a pain in the.... Painted and fitted in place. A bit of rope work to finish. The lines are 1mm shearing elastic and there are some fishing bits also. I am quite pleased with how they have turned out. I have also wired up the radar and also completed nearly all of the mast detailing.


Tonight I have started the final motor / battery / rear door/ bow thruster installation.


Regards Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: irishcarguy on July 01, 2015, 10:48:57 pm
Hi Alan RB make every good bits and cheap too.  You are making a first class job & a great thread as well. I am following you all the way, thanks for sharing. Mick B.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: ovl on July 02, 2015, 10:13:27 am
Hi Alan,


discovering the forum day by day, bit by bit.


Your Tamar is really amazing  O0 :-))


all the details look perfect !!


scares me even more to start mine  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 04, 2015, 03:36:17 pm
Thanks guys. Anything I can help you with with your builds just ask.


Regards Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Dan.Lord on July 06, 2015, 05:51:47 pm
Totally superb build Alan  :-)) :-))  Can't wait to see her on the water !!! Fantastic workmanship. Well done  :-)  Dan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Martin (Admin) on July 06, 2015, 07:19:24 pm
 
Hi Alan, ..... Superb!

Pardon my ignorance, what is this device?
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Stavros on July 06, 2015, 08:09:21 pm
Hi Alan WOW what a superb build how did I miss this one  O0 O0
 
Right what is the servo in your last pic used for
 
Cheers
 
Dave
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 06, 2015, 10:41:16 pm
Thanks Dan. I hope to give her a sail this coming weekend.( she passed her bath test ok!!!)

In answer to your question Martin that is a fuel filling port. It needs a cap making to finish.   :-)) 

The servo you can see Dave is the one that operates the transom door. I have put a short video on you tube. Search speedline Tamar rear door and you will find it.  ;)


Regards Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Perkasaman2 on July 07, 2015, 01:11:23 pm
Many thanks for posting your excellent build. I have thoroughly enjoyed following it.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Locksley on July 09, 2015, 12:11:19 pm
Absolutely stunning build Alan, truly one of the most impressive models I've ever seen! I've been to Tenby a few times over the years, one of my favourite places in Wales, and always end up visiting the RNLI station.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 11, 2015, 07:00:27 am
Thanks for your kind words guys. I am hoping to have some on the water pics to post soon.
 
its been a long time coming!! 
 
Alan   :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on July 12, 2015, 01:00:40 pm
Alan brought his Tenby lifeboat to Colwyn Bay this morning for it's first sea trials. 

I will let him post the photos and videos, but the photos on here barely do justice to the actual model.

Incredible skill and patience has certainly paid off, it looks just beautiful underway.

Alan has joined our club today and that has destroyed any slim chance I had of winning the Mayor's Cup at our Regatta next Sunday  <:(
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: GAZOU on July 12, 2015, 02:21:45 pm
ALAN

I would like to be a small mouse.
 I would like to sit down on the shelf in front of you.
And watch working you silently.
And admire you ..............
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Netleyned on July 12, 2015, 02:30:23 pm
Gazou says it perfectly  :-)) :-))
An amazing build :-))

Kimmel,
If you haveto build to that standard to be allowed to join your club,
you will not have many members :o
Ned
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: kinmel on July 12, 2015, 02:36:24 pm


Kimmel,
If you havet o build to that standard to be allowed to join your club,
you will not have many members :o
Ned

One in fact  :}
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 12, 2015, 10:49:08 pm
Here are some pictures from today's launch!!  I was made to feel very welcome at Colwyn Bays club water. Many thanks to everyone there today. Looking forward to next Sunday's regatta!!


I still have more work left to finish her- but I'm almost done.
Regards Alan  :-))

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: dpbarry on July 14, 2015, 11:37:11 pm
Once the main frame was together the sharp angled cuts were made and then dressed on my disc sander.
The etched hinge sections were then added.


Hi Alan44..


What size of brass tubing did you use for the frame(s)


Declan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 15, 2015, 11:35:49 am
Hi  Declan.
 
which frames do you mean ?
 
Regards Alan .       :-)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: dpbarry on July 15, 2015, 01:33:05 pm
Hi  Declan.
 
which frames do you mean ?
 
Regards Alan .       :-)


Sorry Alan
Meant the mast and the stern rails  :embarrassed:

Declan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 15, 2015, 11:42:36 pm
A few tweeks and then back in to the test tank!!


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Locksley on July 16, 2015, 03:07:22 pm
Where did you find a paddling pool big enough to fit a 1:1 scale lifeboat in?!  :}


Seriously mate, it looks real!
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 16, 2015, 10:01:42 pm
Hi Declan.


To answer your question:-
Main mast 6mm and 4mm brass tube
Main stern rail is 13 mm dia. Resin moulding supplied with kit (top class moulding)
All railings to the stern 3 mm brass rod
Handrails to superstructure 2 mm brass rod.
Bows railing 3mm brass rod.
 
Regards Alan   :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 16, 2015, 10:11:30 pm
I have managed to fly the flags this evening!!  Have also added anchor chain and retaining straps to same.
Crew are now on board  ok2  I have a little bit of detailing of the life belts left to do and then she will be complete externally- seats etc to finish internally.




Regards Al

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: dpbarry on July 17, 2015, 12:18:08 am
Hi Declan.


To answer your question:-
Main mast 6mm and 4mm brass tube
Main stern rail is 13 mm dia. Resin moulding supplied with kit (top class moulding)
All railings to the stern 3 mm brass rod
Handrails to superstructure 2 mm brass rod.
Bows railing 3mm brass rod.
 
Regards Alan   :-))


Cheers Alan..


Much appreciated. Hope to purchase some brass tubing tomorrow to practice brazing for when I make up my own mast for the Mersey. Obviously I'll confirm sizing on the brass tubing for my Mersey.


Declan

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 28, 2015, 10:13:33 pm
I managed to get her up to speed this week. Really pleased with the performance!!


Regards Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 28, 2015, 10:17:26 pm
The eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed I haven't put the top mast array in place! I have it loose because I keep catching it  >>:-(  it was the excitement of getting her on the water!! Lol


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: derekwarner on July 29, 2015, 03:32:37 am
She looks brilliant on the water Alan ....those last two images are so lifelike :-))

One point I had never considered is when on the plane, the bow thruster is above the water level

On the real vessel is there an interlock that prevents the thruster from running in air?.........or would it be subject to some thermal over speed scenario?

Without re-reading the Master Class rules.........this model detail as built is certainly up there with them

I suggest you must be a very proud builder...... Derek

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mikew on July 29, 2015, 07:14:21 am
A great model and a joy to watch your build, thanks for sharing.
Mike
 
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on July 29, 2015, 07:15:04 am
One more pic.


 :-))


Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: ovl on July 29, 2015, 04:40:51 pm
It looks wonderful Alan,


just great on the water, like the real thing  :-)) :-)
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: del7317 on August 23, 2015, 08:13:28 am
Hi Alan
 What colour did you use for the stern rail and railings ? looking really good great job .
 Regards Derek   
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on August 25, 2015, 12:03:30 am
Hi Derek.
Sorry for the delay with my reply. Holiday time !!
I used Halfords Ford polar grey. 


Kind regards


Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on August 25, 2015, 10:29:21 am
Alan, What a great build, can you advise what you used to make the wire between the stanchions and what you used for the terminations to connect to the stanchions.
regards Gerard.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: del7317 on August 25, 2015, 05:30:03 pm
Thanks Alan for you info much appreciated .
Regards Derek
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on August 25, 2015, 06:08:55 pm
Hi Gerard
To answer your question .
The lines are 1mm shearing elastic.
I sourced some turnbuckles from RB Model. They were the smallest they make. ( in Poland I think)
I made up some connecting loops from 15 amp fuse wire.
I also used some fishing links cut down.
I discarded one end of the turnbuckle and cyanoed the elastic in to the hole.


Hope that is of some help  :-))


Regards Alan







Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on August 26, 2015, 12:18:33 am
Thanks for the info, will have a look at the turnbuckles ect, have used sheering elastic for my rails but found it stretched after a while, may be I stretched it too much. Regards Gerard.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mk1 on August 26, 2015, 06:55:23 am
With reference to the handrail wire I used normal Black Electrical wire stripped the end and cyanoed the wire into the hole of the turnbuckle. I done this on the Mersey I built it is strong and does not sag. Mersey pictures are on hear.

Cheers John
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on August 27, 2015, 12:18:00 am
Hi John, thanks for your input, I used this for the support wires along the side of the cabin, but had a problem getting it tight without any slight bends, have you got a tip to get it looking taught. Regards Gerard.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on August 27, 2015, 12:23:06 am
Alan what size bolts did you use to fix the stanchions to the deck rails and where acquired, regards Gerard .
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: mk1 on August 27, 2015, 12:54:18 am
Hi Gerard have you no adjustment on the fittings if not pull the wire through your fingers a couple of times to get any kinks out and the fix to fitting. I made them slightly shorter so there was a very small amount of tension on the stanchion.

Cheers John
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on August 27, 2015, 07:43:39 pm
Hi Gerard.
I used 12ba brass bolts for fixing the stanchions. ( bolt heads to superstructure side).
Sourced them from BA bolts.


Regards Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on August 27, 2015, 10:41:22 pm
Hi Alan, thanks for giving me the info for your bolt supplier, what a good site, every thing you could ever want, regards Gerard.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on May 12, 2016, 09:31:31 pm
Not much work done since my last post. I have managed to finish the deck covers and fix I .......

Alan where did you get the stainless hinges?
Thanks.
John.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 15, 2016, 06:32:38 pm
Hi john. The hinges are actually brass. The supplied hinges were too big I felt. I sourced them from the Dolls house emporium. I radiused the corners then nickel plated them. I have just finished my tamar. Adrian from Speedline supplied me with Perspex  bolt heads for the rear engine covers foc. I thought that was very kind of him.


Hope your builds going well.


Regards Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on May 16, 2016, 08:08:24 am
Thanks Alan,your boat is beautiful well done.
John.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on May 29, 2016, 09:00:14 am
The last few nights I Have completed all of the guard lines. I sent for some turnbuckles from RB model they were the smallest they do and also some shackles- also the smallest. I also made out of 15 amp fuse wire some connecting links. I have added a bit of detail to the fenders. I cut some 5mm brass tube in to  3 mm lengths.... What a pain in the.... Painted and fitted in place. A bit of rope work to finish. The lines are 1mm shearing elastic and there are some fishing bits also. I am quite pleased with how they have turned out. I have also wired up the radar and also completed nearly all of the mast detailing.


Tonight I have started the final motor / battery / rear door/ bow thruster installation.


Regards Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on May 29, 2016, 10:02:25 am
Hello Alan.Did you spray the fender with laquer?
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on May 29, 2016, 12:51:15 pm
Hi John
The rubber fender does look a bit shiny in some of my pictures! But it isn't laquered.  It needed some cleaning up after fitting. I found that Humbrol enamel thinners brought it up a treat!


Regards Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on May 29, 2016, 03:18:00 pm
Alan very grateful.
 Thanks John.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on August 16, 2016, 08:18:12 am
Hi all.
 I have made good progress with the painting this weekend. 3 coats vw brilliant orange. Applied decals finished with 3 coats of clear laquer.


Cheers Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on August 20, 2016, 08:04:08 am
Hello again Alan.
Please can you tell me how you achieved your paint finish?Did you rub down with finishing paper between gloss and lacquer and spray over transfers.
Many thanks.
John.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on August 20, 2016, 08:22:45 pm



Pm sent


       Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: howard spary on October 10, 2016, 07:50:15 pm
hi alan
superb tenby lifeboat musem standerd i would think
could you help with the  following please   where would you decide to put full bolt heads or pin heads as in the windscreen
1 what did you glue the delicate stainless steel parts down with
2 may i use your idea for the rear transom door
3 looked at your post of main mast , how did you get the servo to oparate  the ram on the mast arrangment
4 speedline  suggest in their insructions  that the kick boards are fixed to deck with p38 or p40 filler not sure if this would be ok any suggestions would be welcome


thanks for your time ps went on holiday to the broads maneged to get a tour of the cromer boat ,you cold eat your dinner off of the engines
not bad for a boat which is seven years old ,also saw the new shannon at lowestoft
will order one in new year (kit that is ) real one wont fit in bedroom
thanks for your time
regards
scuppers
howard
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on October 11, 2016, 07:14:08 am
Sent to me in error I think.I am building the Cromer lifeboat and always interested in your progress.
John
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: howard spary on October 13, 2016, 11:57:09 pm
hi
can anyone help with following please
1 how does one decide where to use dummy bolt heads or pin heads as used by Alan on his super tamar
2 speedline suggest using p 38 /40 to fix kick boards  to deck not sure any ideas
3 best way to paint the railings.

 any help would be most welcome
thanks
scuppers
howard
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on October 14, 2016, 10:24:02 pm
Hi Howard.
Sorry for the delay with an answer to your questions.
I used pin heads as dummy bolts where 14 or16ba would look too big and out of scale.
Fixing the kick boards was achived with a thick super glue (mitre fix) it allows time for adjustment and will gap fill to a small degree.
I painted most of my Tamar with Halfords aerosol paints. All brass work was primed with an acid etch primer. Then 2 colour coats to finish.
Small stainless parts were fixed with the same glue applied with a cocktail stick.
The mast on my Tamar is fixed so I can not advise on that point.


I hope this is of some help to you Howard.


   Alan  :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: howard spary on October 15, 2016, 12:17:46 am
hi alan
thanks for the info , super mast was there any  reason why with such an ecellent build that the mast was not  made to move ,thanks for posting the photos will be helpful during the build for referance
the power units for my tamar are two 850 kv brushless powerd by two 5000 ml am; lipo s  and a 7,2 nicad for the bowthruster  plus engine sound
should be quite quick
thanks for your reply
scuppers
howard

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: howard spary on October 15, 2016, 10:26:40 am
hi alan
ref last posting , mast
what i ment was there any particular reason the mast was not made to move electronicly
thanks
howard

Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on October 15, 2016, 12:05:03 pm
   
     Hi Howard.
               
            No  reason other than I couldnt  see the benefit for the work involved, and the compromises that have to be made in the ram areas of the mast.   
   
 Alan.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: gerard on October 17, 2016, 04:59:01 pm
Alan, I notice in one of your pictures that you seem to be using 5000mAh NI MH batteries x2 , what run time do you get from these batteries.
Gerard
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on October 18, 2016, 04:47:36 pm
Hello Alan.
You are keeping busy on this site!
Can you please tell me where you  found the panel which fronts the wheelhouse moulding and runs either side of the bridge door and holds the steering wheels.
Many thanks.
John.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on October 18, 2016, 07:41:14 pm
Hi Gerard.
I haven't timed my runs but I would guess that at high constant speed about twenty mins. Usual trundling about about an hour.


Alan
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on October 18, 2016, 07:43:33 pm
Hi Blakeney.
The part you want is a fibreglass moulding. This needs fitting and blending with the main superstructure.


    Alan.   :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Blakeney on October 18, 2016, 08:33:22 pm
Thanks Alan.Not here will need to chase Adrian.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: HelenC on October 18, 2016, 09:44:54 pm
Thanks for that, I am building a 1/16 tamar but going lipo, hoping for longer run times.
Gerard
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: howard spary on November 06, 2016, 11:19:33 pm
hi alan
hope i havent been a pain by asking too many questions  regarding your tenby build
could you possibly give me an answer regarding forming of the curves  in the kick boards with your oak jig
#
please accept my apologies
regards
scuppers
howard
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Davev333 on January 19, 2017, 06:57:56 pm
Beautiful build very very nice
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Bosse on June 04, 2017, 10:47:32 am

How is the superstructure fixed? Can you in any way make it secure? But still easy to get rid of a little less job.
Best regards Bo


ps Very nice job and an excellent boat.
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Holger on December 14, 2020, 07:24:44 pm
hoi Alan ..

is it the nickel plating set that you used .. ??

https://www.gaterosplating.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=207

it looks more real than real .. !!!!! :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Holger on January 17, 2021, 03:33:36 pm
hoi Alan ..


you have used a spray with Rustolium Stone Effect for the anti slip belaag on the deck ..

is it this .. ??
https://www.diy.com/departments/rust-oleum-stone-bleached-stone-textured-effect-multi-surface-spray-paint-400ml/128271_BQ.prd
thanks say Holger
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: alan44 on April 15, 2021, 11:10:47 am
Yes that’s it 👍
Title: Re: Tenby lifeboat
Post by: Holger on April 17, 2021, 07:13:44 pm
thanks Alan .. :-) :-)

is that the spray too .. ??