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Title: Right Gents, Switching......I'm stuck!!
Post by: Peter_s on February 15, 2015, 07:13:54 pm
hi all,
  Looking ahead in my build I would like to make the LEDs and monitor pump switchable from the transmitter.This presents me with two problems: first I have no idea how to setup a spektrum dx6i  :embarrassed:  although I'm sure I can find a vid on you tube....


Secondly i do not know where to start when it comes to switching circuit boards. Help!!! {:-{


Thank you!


Pete
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: Bill D203 on February 15, 2015, 07:44:53 pm
Acton /component shop sell the switch board unit. Single channel up to 4 channel . They are easy to set up. and work every time.
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: john44 on February 15, 2015, 08:21:17 pm
Hi Pete, the next time you are down the lake I will explain how the switchers operate to work
Lights etc. but for a monitor/pump, you will need to switch through a servo micro switch assy.
Or use Action heavy duty switcher.As I say remind me next time you're down the lake.


John
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: Peter_s on February 15, 2015, 08:48:17 pm
Something like this? http://www.componentshop.co.uk/p91-hi-load-twin-switcher.html
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: john44 on February 16, 2015, 08:23:44 am
Yes, that's the one. Or you could use a small forwards only speed control, most pumps
Will only run in one direction so reverse is not needed.


John


Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: McGherkin on February 16, 2015, 09:53:25 am
Something like this? http://www.componentshop.co.uk/p91-hi-load-twin-switcher.html

Would that be able to work on a 3 position switch? So;

Position 1: all off
Position 2: circuit 1 on
Position 3: circuit 1+2 on

And I'd like another which would do;
Position 1: circuit 1
Position 2: all off
Position 3: circuit 2

Could a P91 do both, one, or neither of the above?
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: inertia on February 16, 2015, 10:25:25 am
It will do both, depending on how you set the little DIL switches. In one position the circuit will only remain live while the Tx switch is on i.e. it goes off when you move the Tx switch back to centre (this is called non-latching). In the other position the circuit remains live when you move the Tx switch back to the centre. To switch the circuit off you need to move the Tx switch back to On then Off again (latching). On P91 there are two separate output circuits.
So your first scenario would be to set both DIL switches to latching, and the second one set both to non-latching. In the first scenario you would need to switch off both circuits subsequently by "revisiting " them with the Tx switch. This should help:
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: spearfish99 on February 16, 2015, 12:10:59 pm
Have a look here
 
 
http://www.mr-rcworld.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=157 (http://www.mr-rcworld.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=157)
Title: Re: Right gents......I'm stuck!!
Post by: McGherkin on February 17, 2015, 09:54:22 pm
It will do both, depending on how you set the little DIL switches. In one position the circuit will only remain live while the Tx switch is on i.e. it goes off when you move the Tx switch back to centre (this is called non-latching). In the other position the circuit remains live when you move the Tx switch back to the centre. To switch the circuit off you need to move the Tx switch back to On then Off again (latching). On P91 there are two separate output circuits.
So your first scenario would be to set both DIL switches to latching, and the second one set both to non-latching. In the first scenario you would need to switch off both circuits subsequently by "revisiting " them with the Tx switch. This should help:


Had a bit of a look, it seems you can change the start points of each switch using pots, so you can have one that goes on from 50-100% and the other from (circa)90-100% to get the required effect for the first setup. A quick look around their website reveals a P62 quad switcher which would do nicely for the other setup and give me more options.

Thanks folks!
Title: Re: Right Gents, Switching......I'm stuck!!
Post by: Peter_s on February 17, 2015, 10:04:41 pm

Had a bit of a look, it seems you can change the start points of each switch using pots, so you can have one that goes on from 50-100% and the other from (circa)90-100% to get the required effect for the first setup. A quick look around their website reveals a P62 quad switcher which would do nicely for the other setup and give me more options.

Thanks folks!


I'm still trying to get my head around it! Think a visit to john is required!!
Title: Re: Right Gents, Switching......I'm stuck!!
Post by: Time Bandit on February 18, 2015, 05:41:53 pm
I designed a 4 channel switch (each channel mit "memory" or "latching" function) with an small mikrocontroller (attiny 45).
The circuit diagramm is so easy, that you can build it on a grid-style PCB.
Should deliver 10A-15A probabaly also 20A if you cool the FET.

If you are able to programm the Attiny I could send you the circuit diagramm/layout and the hex-file to programm the controller.

I also made a 2 channel switch with same FET, which has the same functionality but can be adjusted from "latching" to "non-latching" with 1 jumper each.