Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: irishcarguy on March 09, 2015, 06:05:14 am
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I Hope this thread will be a place where Very good members have gone the extra miles for other members that
were ready to call it quits. I have had lots of help also along the way. Those that helped take a bow. You kept one more guy in the art of making boats that still have a tendency to sink. Mick.B.
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Maybe we could have a poll
Member of the month. A bit like tesco has employee of the month
My nomination is Dave (inertia)
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I will second that, Mick B.
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{-) Does it mean they get club points {-)
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A gold crown above the Mayhemmers Five Stars would show
the esteem they are held in.
Ned
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Essex and Inertia get my vote. They have both been helpful to me in the last couple of months!
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I think most regular posters are very helpful really and respond to specific requests where they are well placed to assist. After all, isn't that what this Forum is mainly about? While I understand and respect the sentiment here, I suspect that most people would not wish to be singled out for particular recognition, especially as whether they are able to help or not may be dependent on the subject under discussion. Also it could place a bit of an obligation on them to live up to their status which could possibly become a bit of an unwanted burden.
There is also the point that members are not just valuable in terms of the specific help they give others but also in their support for the forum by their active (and often informed) participation in general discussions that add value to Mayhem. As an example, I started a topic on pre dreadnought secondary armament and it has thrown up all sorts of interesting information which I have found quite fascinating and educational in general terms. The posters on this topic haven't 'helped' me as such but have shared their knowledge of a specialist subject for the common good.
Just my thoughts anyway,
Colin
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Mr Bishop has put it right As usual :-))
Ned
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:-)) Colin, you hit the nail on the head most people enjoy helping others out as well as getting help from members on here,I know that model boaters whether at lakeside or on forums get pleasure from helping out beginners,I have had help from you guys over the years and tried to give advice with my limited knowledge of our hobby even though I have doing this for 40 years and still learning,Ray. :-))
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Quite right Ray. None of us have all the answers but we often have some practical advice or help to pass on. We would not be members otherwise. You help others and they help you. To me that is what it is all about.
Colin
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It depends on the nail he hit Ned. I don't take kindly to a member belittling a suggestion that was put on here with good intentions & to recognize members that continue day after day to offer help & advice to others. Considering the quote I will leave it at that although my instincts tell me to shred it. Mick B.
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Mick,
I am certainly not belittling a suggestion that was made with the best of intentions. But I think you need to ask yourself whether some sort of league table of 'helpful members' is really a good idea. On the one hand it singles out people who would probably prefer not to be identified as such while on the other it overlooks those who might actually be entitled to recognition but have not received it. So in that sense it is potentially divisive.
As I have stated, I like to think that everyone on this forum is more than willing to help others wherever they can and that this is pretty evident from the posts that are made so there is really no need to highlight certain members above others.
Again, just my thoughts really.
Colin
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OH for HEAVENS SAKE Moderators close it as it's NEARLY ENDING IN TEARS ALLREADY O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Dave
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I don't see the need to close the thread as in principle Mick's suggestion is very positive in wishing to formally recognise those who make the greatest contribution to the Forum. But in practice it is actually quite difficult to do this as you have to single out individuals which can be a bit unfair to others who have also contributed but may have been overlooked, maybe because their help has been via PM rather than on open forum. Personally I prefer to let things speak for themselves. People can draw their own conclusions and do!
Colin
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Well it works for tesco :)
Tho the photos of the employee of the month are quite often quite disturbing ;D
Martin wins this month lol
(http://lowres.cartoonstock.com/business-commerce-employee-employee_of_the_month-self_employed-advantage-award-tbrn9_low.jpg)
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"This is so unexpected. I would like to thank the judges, my parents, everyone that voted for me, the Academy, my personal trainer, the car parking valets, the moderators, Stavros, my personal Guru, my psychiatrist, lawyers, viewers, Mayhemers and anyone that knows me. i wish for world peace and i wish I could take you all home with me tonight, Thank you, thank you, thank you." (fake tears, fade back to host.)
Martin wins this month lol
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By ALL means 'Big up' great post and sing the praises of Mayhemers that have gone the 'extra mile' but 'Mayhemer of the month' I feel is pejorative and elitist.
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Yes, I think Martin is right, if somebody helps you out then give public thanks on the Forum, it will be appreciated and people will take note.
Colin
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;) .... well folks...if Inertia doesn't get the nod....here is my vote as the runner up {-) .... Derek
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Surely it is enough for anyone who feels they have received exceptional help or service is to simply say "thank you".
Glynn Guest
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GG....taking one step backwards, I am sure the vast majority of members believe the sentiment's suggested by you are all that is needed
Conversely I believe there are some MBM members who would suggest this topic is frivolous and unworthy of electronic storage space
There are also member who like some light hearted humour.....& I for one learn new words occasionally O0....yes I am humble enough to
acknowledge that I have never stumbled across the word "pejorative" as used by Martin
It does appear in my copy of the Australian Concise Oxford...so I will spend a few minutes thinking about who or what subject I can apply this new found
adjective/ noun type word upon {-)
Derek
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{-) Does it mean they get club points {-)
Do you mean club them %) %) %)
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Hi Guys
Well I have read through this and can see merit and good intentions in most of the posts. It seems to me that we most celebrate our best members upon their demise. No matter how many individual thank you's Dicky D and others like him received - well somehow it doesn't seem enough. I quite liked Derek's tongue in cheek certificate but I'd offer a Blue Mayhem Badge ... Few of us will get a Blue Peter one. Light heartedness is the key to not making it onerous or embarrassing.
Recently in work I decided to have a Tom ####'s day. He's a nice helpful guy but little appreciation comes his way. So a few of us made a bit of an effort and told him we thought he was great. He was a little flummoxed but smiling widely. Later his workgroup had a safety brief and we gave his manager a mint Kit Kat to present to him. A few days later Tom came up to me and said it was the best day had in work for ages. The rest of his team seemed happy too.
So back to us; if it makes someone smile to be appreciated then it's no bad thing.
I used the word flummoxed to test an Australian dictionary O0
Regards Dave
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It seems to me that we most celebrate our best members upon their demise.
I'm not sure I like the way this is going................... :o
Like GG says, a simple 'thank you' is enough. Badges are for Boy Scouts' jumpers.
DM
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I would like to thank all those who have helped me, and given invaluable advice, since I got into models boats just over three years ago. Too many to list, but I have replied with thanks and appreciation each time, so you know who you are. I believe the best way of passing on thanks is to try to help others just starting out.
Biggest thanks is to Martin and the Team for taking the time and effort to run the Mayhem Forum, through which I have made many friends.
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Hi Guys
but I'd offer a Blue Mayhem Badge ... Few of us will get a Blue Peter one. Regards Dave
I don't wanna brag but??.................
nah can't really take the credit for these two.........belong to my kids I just nicked them as I lost mine years ago..........but it does get harder every year to convince people I'm still under 16 so I can use them to get in places free {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Well....I don't know >>:-(
DM is suggesting badges are only for jumpers?
Sir Neil may loose his Knighthood ..vis by courtesty being a Knight of The Order of Australia if he keeps telling the world that he nicked=pinched his kids BLUE badges
[In ye olde days, persons were sent for penal servitude for a far lesser crime ...& many are my forebears :-))]
Norseman appears to be concerned that some may get a little flummoxed
....and ;) Martin is suggesting the tone of this thread is becoming pejorative
So during my sojourn to the Oxford Concise ......I attempted to find reference to soredust ....you know the stuff that covered the butchers floor years ago......
Certainly is a changing world.....as the Oxford has no mention of soredust, the butcher's shop has closed down...& the isles @ Woolies & Coles have highly polished white floor tiles with no evidence that any dust has ever fallen........but at least all of the staff have name badges so we know who we are talking to.....Derek :o
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Do thow meenest sawdust, liveth next door to a butcher when youthful
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We always used to call soredust 'talcum powder'. ;D
I gave my Blue Peter badge away because my jumper was already full with Boy Scout badges. :P
The problem with being badged "helpful" is that it green-lights certain individuals who'd rather pester you than Ask Jeeves or Google.
DM
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Some other forums have a Thanks button allowing members to say thanks for a particular post if it has been helpful. The names of those giving thanks are added to the bottom of the post allowing the original poster to know who is thanking them. The info about the poster on the left has the number of thanks given and received for that member.
This option is a mod which can be added by the forum owner.
Jim
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ok2...personally I have never heard of soredust ...I just made it up for a "laught" :kiss:.......
But I do remember the butchers floor covered in sawn tree dust....& the chopping block was a sawn off tree stump cemented into the floor O0
Not 'shore' how the H&S would cope with this today.......BTW....they made good microphones.....them sure people could certainly keep track of good members :}
1. My vote is that name tags should be compulsory ok2 .........
2. What say you Sir Neil?............................
3. ....& who is Jeeves?..........
4. Sorry Jim.....Monte Carlo was a biscuit ....we don't need red & green lights like poker machines attached to our names......Derek
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Derek
'Ask Jeeves' is an Internet search engine, presumably named after the character created by P G Wodehouse.
Another search engine is (or was?) called 'Dog Pile'.
Name tags are compulsory in the UK only at infants' schools, although I understand that policemen are numbered in case they get lost.
What ARE you drinking, and is it available in the UK? 8)
DM
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My kids have my blue peter badge....dont even know where it is now!
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Well I appeared on Blue Peter does that COUNT
Dave
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Derek's bin at the Red Ned agin >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Ned
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Well I appeared on Blue Peter does that COUNT
Dave
It's an absolute, Dave. You either have one, or you once had one, or you never had one. Appearing on the program has no bearing on the matter unless they gave you a badge as well. You mean to say you didn't get one? Life can be unbearably cruel at that age, can't it?
BTW Why are you now typing some words in capital letters? It looks most ODD.
DM
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Just a mute point as my carpentry instructor always said to the peasants(they were not fast learners he called them block heads)IT IS NOT SAWDUST, it is WOOD dust. Like everything else it is only a matter of keeping your ears clean & listening. There my friends I feel my posts on here should end. I am sure in time you will have more fun with some other peoples well intended postings, after all it is always easy to keep the peasants happy. Mick Burke. Canada.
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Dave I do hope you are not taking the micky out of my postings as I dont take the preverbial out of yours
Dave
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Mick, I and I'm sure most other people on here have no doubt whatsoever about your good intentions, it was a nice thought and everyone appreciates it when they are given help, either on building boats or indeed on any of the variety of other matters that are discussed on Mayhem.
The problem comes with the practical implementation. In a company you can have a salesman of the month because all you need to do is to compare the respective volumes of sales between the sales people (assuming that they all do the same job) but on here, help comes in all shapes and sizes and it all comes down to a matter of opinion as to who is the most helpful and that is where relative unfairness can creep in as some members will feel that a certain person has either received too much or, more likely, too little recognition compared with someone else and that can give rise to embarrassment if it is voiced. A lot of help is also given off forum and the members don't see that.
Also, as Dave M points out, being awarded an accolade like this does make you a bit of a target for people looking for help by PM and not by posts on the Forum. Both Martin on this Forum and I in respect of the Model Boats Forum regularly field private queries from individuals simply due to our positions. That's OK because it goes with the job but perhaps not so fair on someone who never asked for the recognition.
Colin
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Dave I do hope you are not taking the micky out of my postings as I dont take the preverbial out of yours
Dave
Not at all, m'duck - I was just a bit puzzled by the capitals. As for the rest, you've always been game for a gentle leg-pull. Sorry if I got it wrong.
DM
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Mick B......you were the only one to get the riddle...soredust? :o......there is no such thing %%.....[I said I made it up... also spoke of sawn tree dust]
All the rest 'were block heads .....it is not SAW dust, it is WOOD dust' ...even John Lennon asked "how to make a tenon joint" .....obviously he was considering enrolling in a wood work class <*< ....so there is hope for us all yet....with our name tags on....
Derek
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The Concise Oxford Dictionary on page 1007 sayeth,
"Sawdust, tiny wood fragments produced in sawing................".et all %) %) %) %) {-) {-) {-)
Bulldust also comes to mind O0 O0 O0
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Sorry RAAArtyGunner :embarrassed: ...my version of the Oxford Dictionary ...Second Edition 1992...of the First Australian Edition 1987, on page 1021 clearly states "sawdust n powdery particles of wood produced when sawing"
You are 100% correct that this is bulldust...or the Author [in 1987] must have been smoking what John Lennon was thinking about when he asked about making that "dovetail joint"........ :-X
As Mick says ....blockheads the lot of them...........Derek {-)
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If you want to call sawdust wood-dust, then you are also going to have to call house dust something closer to what it's made of.
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Sawdust is just an example of a word being used incorrectly but so often and for so long that it has become accepted as correct. Other examples are "nucular" (nuclear), "of" ("have") and "reality" ("brainless").
House dust is mainly dead skin, isn't it? :o
Just trying to be helpful. 8)
DM
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Right again as usual Dave, Thanks Derek I would have a dictionary too but then I would have to learn read first. It reminds me of a little story, When the graduating class were rapping up they picked two people, first the one most likely to succeed, & also the one least likely. Ten years later the guy they picked as most likely came to the class reunion with a wife & two kids in a well used car. The guy least likely turned up in a Rolls Royce & a blond in the passenger seat. When asked how he had become so rich his answer was short "I found something every woman needed, I made them for a dollar & sold them for three dollars & I was happy making my 3% " The moral of the story is sometimes it is not a good thing being too clever, Mick B.
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Mick,
The clincher was the 3%, namely he wasn't greedy, whereas these days everyone wants to get rich quick rather than work at it over time.
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Guys....maybe we should just think & go back to wood dust.....
How many remember walking into a wood joinery shop all those years ago and smelt the freshly sawn timber?
If we all had name tags O0....... we could nominate which member had the turn to turn the animal glue pot on {-)........Derek
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I made them for a dollar & sold them for three dollars & I was happy making my 3%
Hang on a minute there, m'ducks. That's a mark-up of 200% on cost and a return on sales of 66.6%. If that's not getting rich quick then what is? And where did the 3% come from?
DM
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Think he had dodgy maths
He thought make for one sell for three gave him 3%
Moral being he wasn't clever at maths but ok at making money
I Think O0 O0
Ned
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If he could make $2 profit on a $1 item and then convince the Revenue that his profit was just 3% then he was more than clever! I'll take a slice of that action any time.
Dave M
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Math people are never happy, It should have said "bought it for one & sold it for four" I hope Dave that that makes you feel better, we would not like to confuse the peasants, would we. Mick B.
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There's proof of a helpful member in action. (pun intended) {-) {-)
ken