Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: mk1 on June 04, 2015, 12:53:31 am
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Have just recieved the full set of plans for the Shannon [Wednesday] £64.95 set of 5 with postage. So now the hard work sets in. I also understand that they might be releasing the plans for the launching tractor and carriage. This would be a good challenge as I have had a look at one.
John
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Did you get them from the RNLI shop john? They don't contain any lines drawings?
Mick F
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Hi that's going to be the challenge. Ilfracombes boat arrives on Saturday so hope to be able to look at her and see what is what.
John
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Hi all I have made a plug of the Shannon Hull to a point were I was happy with it and its now with the man how is making the mould and Hulls. I got my camera out to take some photos got called away come back and put the frame work around the Hull thought I had taken the photos. Here are a couple of photos of the Hull before it went.
(http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/19/26/73/90/4e_17-10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/view/19267390/13)
(http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/19/26/73/90/4c_17-10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/view/19267390/14)
(http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/19/26/73/90/4b_17-10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/view/19267390/15)
(http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/19/26/73/90/4a_17-10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/view/19267390/16)
Cheers John
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Looking forward to seeing the outcome.
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Hi John,
I've just looked at the RNLI shop which seems to be selling a 4 drawing set (not the 5 you got) for the Shannon at £80 or £20 for each individual sheet. One of the drawings shown is the L&RS. It all seems a little odd. Did you get your plans from the RNLI shop or the drawing office?
Phil
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Hi, I was on holiday in Ilfracombe last week and got some photos of the new Lifeboat and Tractor. I will try and put them up if anyone is interested?
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Hi, I was on holiday in Ilfracombe last week and got some photos of the new Lifeboat and Tractor. I will try and put them up if anyone is interested?
Yes please Steve, very interested. :-))
John
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Here's some of them having a training session on beach?
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Here's some a couple of days later, they launched it after the little RIB? Didn't have time to get up the harbour further.
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Great set of pictures Steve :-))
Ned
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Hi got the plans from their online shop 5 for £60 plus postage and the trailer plan was £20 plus postage
John
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Hi,
I took a look into the shop. You can order 4 different "items". Maybe one "item" consists of more then one sheet. - I made this experience when I ordered the Mersey-plans some years ago.
Juergen
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... its now with the man how is making the mould and Hulls ...
Hi John,
Hulls is plural ... will you (or the hull maker) offer hulls to buy?
Juergen
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Hi i started out just making the plug for myself. If anybody wants one, I will get them made and sell them. No price as yet as it depends on what it costs to have them made.
Cheers John
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Hi John,
I haven't finally decided to build a Shannon. But it's good to know there might be the option to buy a hull. That would save me much time. ok2
What scale have you chosen?
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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That hull looks beautiful John. Looks like 1/12 scale to me and a very nice size it is. I am going to do a kit in both 1/12 and 1/16 scales and to do this, I am investigating 3D CAD so that a CNC machine can make both hull patterns. Jürgen, many thanks for all your hard work. The files are with the CNC company now to make sure they are all compatible and they can use them as they are.
I am writing this on my pad but tomorrow I will sort out the Freeship issue (excuses, excuses) on my PC. I can hardly wait.
To anyone who is interested in 3D modelling and 3D printers and stuff, download 123D Design (It takes ages) but what you get is really good and its FREE!
On
Youtube there are lots of very good, well structured training courses in 123D Design for the beginner, and I mean beginner (me).
After about four hours watching and playing I am definitely getting somewhere. I drew up the main winch of the Shannon last night and its ready to go to the 3D printer. Both scales can be done at the same time and you get an area of about 100 X 50 to fill with as many bits as you want. Its £40 for the first two hours and £25 per hour after that, (fantastic it is but fast it ain't).
So for less than £100 I can have the winch, that complicated release mechanism on the foredeck, a fairlead, the instruments on the bridge and whatever else I can cram in and in either scale!
The company with the printer is able to produce the parts in four different levels of finish from very good anyway up to polished. From these we make the silicone moulds and then resin cast them.
I might have a go it producing the entire 'cockpit' area as 3D drawings and then do the whole thing as a casting using this method.
Its at times like this I wish I was 60 again!
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Hi,
yes, I made a virtual 3D model. Let's hope it works as planned.
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Hi Juergen,
That looks pretty good. Is Free!Ship easy to use, and how long did it take you?
Charlie
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Hi Charlie,
which software is "easy to use"? Well, it depends. I am not an expert in CAD-software. So I had no expectations. Now after some projects it's not to hard for me.
But in this special case it took me a lt of time (in sum: about 10 hours). I made a lot of mistakes. To correct it I had to revise the complete model several times. BUt this was complete my own stupidity. ok2
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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I had no end of problems with Freeship until I downloaded version 3.43.
If you use an older version you cannot open files produced on a later version so its a good idea to keep to the latest version.
Jurgen is being very modest here. To learn to do what he has done in just ten hours is very good going indeed!
The program is not difficult to use in itself but the Shannon is a complicated shape with all those chines and spray rails and that strange extended stern.
You do get a lot of sample ships to look at in the download and there is a manual so worth spending some time on.
Jurgen sent me the drawings of course and I tried to open them in a format that I could use on the laser. You can save to Autocad format and I can laser-cut from that though I generally use Corel Draw as the laser driver because i'm hopeless at autocad.
I think that this program could be as useful to the model boat builder as the six sections shown on the RNLI plans are the only ones that were used. Manipulating this information gives the hull shape and all the sections shown above are generated by the software.
This program could be as useful to the ship modeller as a ruler and pencil. Bulkheads or bread and butter waterlines can be generated in any scale so what more is there?
Try 123D Design as well. Its not difficult and a whole new world starts to open up.
(I'm getting carried away again)!
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One more remark for those who are interested in FreeShip:
There is no manual for version 3.43. Use the one for version 2.6
Kind regards,
Jürgen
P.S. Unfortunately I cannot change my spelling mistakes in older posts. So, if you find some (I am sure you will), you can keep them. ok2
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Hi Juergen sent you a personal message no reply I was only trying to be helpful.
John
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Going back up the thread a little(!), thanks for the info John, I think I'll email the RNLI to see what's what.
Steve, great photos.
Phil
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For Juergen
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Thank John,
I will check my 3D model and come back when it's changed.
Would be interested, if the RNLI issued lines planes.
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Hi,
I measured length pp on the plan. It's about 45,15 cm long. Multipled with 25 (plan's scale) I get an original length pp of 11,2875 m (almost exactly the measurement of my 3D model). I cannot verify the 11,63 m officially mentioned by RNLI.
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Well if anyone feels like a drive out in the sunshine tomorrow , ( Sunday )
The New Shannon at Dungeness will be strutting it stuff at there openday , should be launching around 2pm,
great chance to get upclose and see her in action as well as some good detail shots on her launching unit :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Just got the mould back checked it over a couple of bits of paint from the plug stuck to it. Wed and dryed the paint of and gave the mould a good rub over with cut and polish cream. Will be taken it back today to get the 1st hull made hope to have one by the end of the week.
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Looking good :-))
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Some photos of the Ilfracombe setup on the Shannons arrival day. Will upload more photos later.
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more
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Nice photo,s :-))
John
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Hi,
I promised to revise the lines. Here they are ...
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Thanks for the pictures BlueWotsit very nice. I went down today and took some of the cabin etc if anybody want any please ask as I don't want to clog up the forum. New drawing look good Juergen.
Cheers John
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Hi just to say have got a hull at last done in Oxford Blue Gel coat will post pictures after I have trimmed it.
Cheers John
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Topic renamed :-)
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Hi all got one of the hulls at last and trimmed it down to the right size and added a temporary watermark line for when I try it in the bath also made up a couple of small pieces of wood to the right size of the fenders just to see what it looks like might make them in hard wood if I can't find any thing else that's light and easy to work with.
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Looks great ... :-))
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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John,
Looking great, also PM sent in answer to your question
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Looking Good :-))
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Hi just a up date on were I have got to. Have now made the cabin a lot of hours in making one of these I think over 50 have made the deck beams and cut the front and side deck out. This model is for display so I have not taken so many pictures as some things are not fitted. I will show more of how I have done things when I do the one I am going to use.
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John,
She looking go, you've done a great job on the hull
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This is looking good, especially the wheel house. I'm posting a few photos that I put earlier on the other 'thread' regarding the Speedline Models build. Hope to have a DVD of photos out for the 'Warwick' Show [as per my Trent, Solent, Mersey, Tamar, Arun and Severn ones which have raised some £500+ for the RNLI] which will be £5 each and all the money goes to the RNLI Station [at the moment Dungeness] who have given me their time and help. These though are just a few from the RNLI Open Weekend in August. Trust they might be of some use to those building a model.
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they look just like models themselves but bigger.
they look wonderful lifeboats. I like lifeboats and would like to build or buy a model of one, one day.
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BFSMP - you're right. That's exactly what I thought! As modellers we sometimes forget that we are 'imitating' the real thing, not the other way around. I liked them because most of my colleagues / friends call me 'Mr. Grey' because most of my lifeboats don't get past the primer stage!!
Have a go and build one, there is a fair choice.
C.C. [Mr. Grey]
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I have only built a few things in wood over the years.a few model aeroplanes with skins of paper and dope in years gone by and a dolls house for my grand daughter some time ago which sits on top of a dresser these days
And by looking at all the beautiful lifeboats that are built on here.......both the old age ones that I used to see in my youth when visiting the sea side and the modern ones...........I don't think I would ever be able to build one such as those I see......they are all magnificent.
Think I will be content to buy one if one is cheap enough.
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Here are a few more shots and I will send some more over the next couple of days. Some 83 appear on the Dungeness Lifeboat Station's Flicker page in folders two and three. My DVD of Shannon photos for modellers will feature several hundred and I will have to make another visit to Dungeness to get some on board close-up shots of fixtures and fittings, plus interior ones.
These were taken in February and March 2014 when training was on launch, recovery and towing and then in Ramsgate Harbour for mooring skills as Dungeness only has sand and shingle!!
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A few photos as promised. For those wondering what colour all the rails and stanchions are, that are not painted black, Trevor Bunney [the Engineer/Mechanic at Dungeness] told me 'brushed aluminium'. However, it looks very much like galvanised aluminium [only in my ignorance I'm not sure whether ali can be galvanised - please let me know]. This was to cut down on paintwork maintenance by the RNLI. If you search 'Alclad paints' on the net you will come up with about five different types of ali colour - most useful too for window frames on other lifeboats! They need to be laquered too. However, there are plenty of articles on the use and application of these paints [used by the plastic model aircraft fraternity] and www.britmodeller.com deals with the subject a plenty. My good friend Alan Poole has used the Alclad stainless steel paint to good effect on his 1/12th scale Severn Class Dover lifeboat's [17-09] water cooled exhaust pipes and other stern/transom paraphenalia. Hope some of this is of help to those that want to see what goes where and what it looks like.
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Well, having just checked the site out again, what a fantastic resource we have now. Many thanks for me mo0st sincerely .
All the handrailings are natural aluminium in colour. According to the Coxswain at Lowestoft they will never need painting and by some process or other (?) they will not oxidise or react to sea water.
The photos of the bow (earlier post) show a clearly different arrangement, without all the cut-aways and clamps of the stored ashore boats. The Lowestoft boat had the cutaway parts and the chopped-off spray rails and that's a moored afloat boat. It had a long piece of rubber running down the bow to cover up the cutaway bits and apparently its a good 2 knots faster so maybe there has been a design change.
Does anybody know?
Its an important aspect of the hull and I was going to do the bow section as a separate resin casting but now if they are all nice and smooth its a lot easier I tell you.
By the way, the 3D printer is not suitable for making masters unless you can afford an SLA machine and I cant.
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All the handrailings are natural aluminium in colour. According to the Coxswain at Lowestoft they will never need painting and by some process or other (?) they will not oxidise or react to sea water.
It is probably anodised aluminium. You can do it at home !
Plenty of videos on Youtube and for the natural aluminium colour, you simply miss out the dye process and move straight on to the sealing.
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I think your right there, it certainly looks anodised.
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Yes, you both seem right. For those that want more I went to www.aluminiumdesign.net and all the information was there. Trust this might help any that want to read up on the techniques used and the science behind it.
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So, do we get lucky ?
Kits supplied with pre-formed aluminium sections that have then been anodised. O0
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Just waiting for the rugby to start, so thought I would post another three photos from the RNLI Open Weekend of 13-04 doing a demonstration with the helmsman stating 'we don't normally do this - it's only for show!!'. Notice the poor chap hanging on the stern rail as he applied reverse thrust!! The boat is named by the youngsters' membership of the RNLI Storm Force - 'RNLB Storm Rider'.
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I saw a video of the Shannon going full astern from full ahead. Must have carbon brakes!
The stanchion will have to be soldered up from tubing. They can't be machined, well not on my budget anyway.
I have given it lots of thought and I can't think of a better way. I'll come up with jig for the stanchions.
The big challenge is how to do the thick bits at the stern railing. I've asked Simon at the
Prop-Shop if he can lost wax cast them in brass and I'm waiting for a quote but I think this method might be too expensive. I have to try bending some tubing to that radius but I think that would be impossible. Its a tricky part to kit that is. If it was just for me then I'd pop the appropriate length in the lathe, turn the tapers and drill out the ends to accept the railing, bend it (right first time of course) and solder it up. Maybe that's the way to do it? Any ideas anyone?
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Well, there are in fact only four true stanchions to be made - and these and all the other 'stanchion' rails are parallel sided [no tapers here on the lower sections!]. I would make and solder them all up in aluminium. For the 'four' I would make the eight knuckles in tube, the top ones fitting to the top of the upright in a hollowed dip, with the mid knuckles being slid over to the correct height and soldered in place, then drilled through. All the other side rails would be ali rod or tube with the flanges fitted where required by the through wires / cables. They must be some of the easiest on any lifeboat [except the Solent where the knuckles are on the top and inboard on the lower knuckle]. Other railings as per normal, but then to that tricky stern one Adrian mentions! I would bend this around an inner jig [with half circular routed edges on the bottom and returning uprights, when completed cutting the jig down through the centre [wasting it] and popping it out. If two conical inserts where included in the kit, these could then be fitted in or on the ends, depending on rod or tube. I still like the idea of all the 'railings' being in ali, then sand blast them and coat them in a matt laquer. I just hope God gives me another 20 years [I'll then be eighty eight!] so I can finish one of my eleven lifeboats in the workshop AND also start a 1/12th Shannon - this has to be the most exciting lifeboat in my subjective opinion. I think this will be a heavy topic at 'Warwick' with much talkng and many huddles!!
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Nobody has said anything about the stanchion bottom plate and the taper piece that the stanchions fit into how would this be made and fixed to the plate.
John
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Goodones morning John, you're right and maybe I was being a little selfish here as I would machine my own up in ali, as and when I decide to go ahead and build one. However, the way I would do this is make an insertion on the bottom of the stern railings, where there only seems to be a plate [see my attached photos] and machine a flenge with a pin below [that could be inserted and glued to the deck] and a pin above that could fixed into the ali tube railing. The same would apply for the side stanchions that have a parallel socket attached to the plate on the deck, and then there is the one you have attached, which I must admit I had not noticed - different again! THis I would do on the lathe too, but if scratch building these could all be made with tubes and washers. For those being produced in kits and semi-kits, the manufacturers would have to find a solution in either resin cast ones, white metal or at a higher cost have them machined [more strength in this option]. I'll have to pay atttention to this point on the photography when I visit Dungeness later in the month - thanks for bringing this to our attention. The good thing is there are no 'spades' at the bottom sides of each stanchion to be bolted onto the toe / kicking boards. We can also see in the first two shots the thicker triangle railing area Adrian was refering to. More food for thought all round. Let's see what others say.
Keep up the good modelling. Kim
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John, doing this in a hurry I have put 'ones' in the opening comment, sorry. Also having looked at my photos I can now see that the ones along the side in my shot have the circular disc with a machined straight edge along the 'fender' side [as per yours], hence the three bolts into the deck. I should have looked. Off to the Dover area now to see my old 'mucker' Alan Poole and his excellent rebuild of a Severn Class [17-09].
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Having spoken to another MBM member on various matters I am now including a few other shots of the Shannon exterior stern helm position taken of 13-02 at Ramsgate RNLS alongside their Trent Class 14-02, hoping that it might help folk understand the RNLI plans [along with my earlier shots of 13-22 and 13-23 in build at RNLI HQ, Poole above] and their model build of this area.
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Hi just a quick update on were I have got with my Shannon. Had a few problems with the water jets still not quite right but will build new ones after I have tried these out and see if they work okay. Also had problems with servo reversers and batteries now hope its all okay. Put it in the bath no leaks and trim was okay so as soon we get a dry day will take it to the pond and try it out.
John
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Good evening John,
I'm up at the 'Warwick' Show and just checking my e-mails at the Farm B&B. Much talk about the Shannon [Adrian G. [Flundle] et al, including Martin - our esteemed Moderator] and your great build - you'll have to join us next year on the LBES stand!! It will give me something different to talk about when doing the commentary for those displaying their boats on the indoor pool.
Your build seems to be progressing well [although you might be thinking different, at the 'sharp end']. I think your recent photos will help a lot of fellow modellers to decide how to go about there mechanics and electrics on those water jet units. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Kim
Canterbury Coxswain
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Tried the water jets out today all seems to be okay the reverse side still needs some work doing to it. The pond next
John
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On the water at last just a couple of pictures hope to show a video later. Weather was quite windy and the water a bit choppy but it handled it very well.
John
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Nice to see it in its element.
Well done John.
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I should say that you have done a remarkable job. A tricky hull shape to make, jet drives to sort out and the wheelhouse to make and all in double quick time.
Congratulations!
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Not too bad, John! ok2
Congratulations!
It's the first Shannon model I see on the water.
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Hi thanks to all for the comments it took me longer than I thought it would but I am building 2.
Cheers John
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John,
Now that just showing off........,
Both looking great, have you had time to do a video of the jet drives ? Would like to see how they preform.
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They look super! Love to see the jet drives?
I guess all the little bits will be started soon. How are you going to tackle the mast?
I am soon to produce the decals sets so might able able to help you there fairly soon.
Adrian
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Hi i started out just making the plug for myself. If anybody wants one, I will get them made and sell them. No price as yet as it depends on what it costs to have them made.
Cheers John
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would like to know if you have any for sale yet please and the price, love jet boats and Life boats would like to build one to try and raise a little funds For the RNLI if i can
Steve
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Hi in reply as how am I going to tackle the mast have not got any idea as yet looked at the mast and went on to doing the handrails etc that is bad enough.
John
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Hi lleksam sent you a personal message.
John
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Hi lleksam sent you a personal message.
John
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I'm writing this on a pad so one finger typing, its going to be short then as a result.
I thought I would just bring you up to date with progress on the two Shannons and a little insight into some aspects of the kit.
Firstly, its going to be a relatively simple kit to build with very little in the way of etched metals and laser cut plastics. Its also going to be the most detailed kit we have ever done!
What I see is a generation of model builders getting older by the day. Model boaters who can tackle a big scratch built project are getting rare indeed and it is obvious by the increasing popularity of ready to run boats that the model boat market place is changing and so us kit manufacturers must react appropriately. New kits must be innovative in design and build into very good models without requiring the kind of skills which simply are not being taught these days.
The new Shannon kits, both the 1/12 and 1/16 versions will enable the modeller with very little in the way of traditional model boating skills to produce a first class model.
Both versions are similar, building in exactly the same way.
As far as I know this is the first kit of its type to have the wheelhouse and deck produced as a single GRP moulding. You can't (as they used to say) see the join at all!
Another first is that the jet drives are specifically designed for the kit. Much more testing to do yet to be sure they work properly and have a good service life. If they don't work then KMB ones will be used in the 1/12 and another make in the 1/16 (? still).
Both kits will be supplied complete with the jet drives and brushless out-runners will be proving the umph.
Extensive use is being made of highly detailed resin castings throughout.
I hope you like some of the ideas? Keep me posted.
Both kits will cost pretty much the same except for the potential difference due to the costs of the commercial jet drives.
Also, if these drives work as we think they will they will be available separately.
Bed time now and I'm loosing the sense of tout ch in my finger.
Oh!
How do you get to the inner workings if the wheelhouse is moulded with the deck then?
The whole deck complete with fendering lifts off to gain access to the interior, chocolate box style. Yes there is a sealing system to keep the top on and the water out.
Whilst a full interior for the wheelhouse is included, the main bulkheads between the different sections of the boat are included so you can go on to build a full interior or maybe we will and offer it as an ad-on later on sometime.
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Hi Flundle.
It takes a leap of faith to move away from traditional methods of model boat building. I am not sure if any of us are 'taught' our craft its learnt from boy to man. For me the challenge of building a model is solving the many problems a kit can offer. On the other hand it opens the door to newer less experienced modellers to 'have a go'
I built your 1/12 tamar and enjoyed every part of it, it was a big financial and time investment. In terms of hours spent it was fantastic! Would I want to build a kit that was completed in a short time because all the work was already done? I don't know.
Many of us I am sure are eager to see the out come of your hard work.
In anticipation :-)
Alan
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The design sounds intriguing. And custom made Jets as well - awesome! Can't wait to see some photos.
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I think you have read the future market correctly Adrian, certainly the ratios of the 80 members in our club are changing exactly as you describe.
Ten years ago most built from scratch, or kits and sailed just those models. Now the great majority are happy to buy RTR, ARTR, or buy second hand models. Some even get others to build bespoke models for them.
Certainly many model builders avoid the existing Speedline range of models because of their build complexity.
We are having to adapt, or drop some of our competitions, because the rules require that the owner built the model entered into the competition and it is getting harder to know that.
For myself, I look forward to placing an order for a 1:16th as soon as it becomes available.
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Hi Adrian,
Any idea on prices for the kits yet?
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Just out of curiosity can you clarify how you are going to gain access inside the hull {:-{
If I understand what you wrote the superstrure and deck are mounded as one so to get inside
You lift the whole deck out... Is that correct??
As I said just curios not nit picking :-))
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The Shannon has a very large section fender running almost all round the deck. My normal course of action would be to have the correct section moulded by COH Baines but the fendering on the shannon is not a constant section.
It starts at one section at the bow then changes over a few feet to a larger section so a rubber extrusion is impossible.
Moulding the fendering on to the hull is quite feasible but part of the fendering would have to be moulded on to the deck or added in some way.
If you have been on board a Shannon, you cannot help but be impressed with the fit and finish of everything and the inner edge of the fendering looks as neatly moulded into the deck as the wheelhouse does.
Also, the floor of the wheelhouse is all below deck level so if you want a scale interior, an upstand in the traditional way would make that tricky.
Also I didn't want a joint between the bottom of the hull and the deck, on the real thing the wheelhouse is moulded with the deck, So we are moulding the wheelhouse and the deck and the fendering as a single moulding.
It fits over the hull like a chocolate box lid and you cannot see any joints anywhere. A simple seal keeps the water out and holds the lot together nicely.
This way of course demands that the hull has some built in supports to maintain it's shape so we are including all the bulkheads the real thing has (and we will be laser cutting the hatchways so that should you wish to, you can build a full interior, jet space, engine room, tank space, survivor space and fore store.
We are considering making all this later so a sectioned one can be displayed but you could do one yourself if you wish.
(One of the reasons for designing our own jet drives was because of the scale space available being too small).
There is a lot of thinking goes into a kit. To make the best, its a real challenge and always takes longer than you think.
I hope to have some photos of the back end of the wheelhouse to show you tomorrow just to give you an idea of the quality you can expect from this kit.
Tea time!
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Thanks for the info makes sense now :-))
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backing up what kinmel says reguarding members, i am a member of his boat club and i am looking forward to seeing the 1:12th shannon kit as i will be purchasing it to go along side my extensive 1:12th lifeboat fleet, keep up the good work, does this mean you sell me a trent cheaper LOL {-)
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Funny you should say that.
Yes!
A new 1/12 Trent is on its way and that will make use of our new production techniques. I expect the price to drop considerably too.
Adrian
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stop teasing me Pictures and a price for Shannon please <*< <*<
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Funny you should say that.
Yes!
A new 1/12 Trent is on its way and that will make use of our new production techniques. I expect the price to drop considerably too.
Adrian
thanks adrian
by the sound of things both might be lot easy to build, will have to buy both {-)
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Its been a while but with health problems and a broken camera [don't like being dropped] her are a couple of pictures of my Shannon not finished but well on its way. Some plateing to get done and a lot of the very small items which will get done in time.
John
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John,
Very nice model , power to you. I'm currently on holiday when I get back I will down load a video of my test running of my Shannon, running on lipo's. I think I've sorted the issue I was having, although reversing is still an issue to be solved.
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WOW!!!
That is just out of this world, and truly a beautiful model.
A work of art.
Thank you for showing us all what a beautiful boat the Shannon class lifeboat is.
Fleetwood get her new boat later in June.
look forward to seeing her.
Jim.
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Very nice indeed John.
It makes me realise how much I have still to do!
You know the old 80/20 rule? 80% of the work lies in 20% of the parts.
Anyway, brilliant stuff.
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Looking very good, interesting build.
Suffering from Shannon Class over kill and enjoyed every moment of it. Good to see modelling still alive and keeping up with the times, but still using old time techniques as well.
keep up the good work.
Colin
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Awesome! Keep on going! - And don't let your camera get broken again. ok2
Kind regards,
Jürgen
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A credit to John (MK1) and his amazing build of the Ilfracombe Shannon 13-09, I am just starting to appreciate some of his skill in the building this awesome model.
For years as a kid I went to Ilfracombe with my parents on our annual holiday. We used to walk past a shop every day to get to the beach that had a large cream coloured sailing yacht in the window just wanting to be bought - unfortunately my pocket money didn't stretch that far but I am certain this was the start of my love of boats, I can still picture the shop window so clearly nearly 50 years later as though I had walked past it yesterday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTirhXCnIkc
C-3PO
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A credit to John (MK1) and his amazing build of the Ilfracombe Shannon 13-09, I am just starting to appreciate some of his skill in the building this awesome model.
For years as a kid I went to Ilfracombe with my parents on our annual holiday. We used to walk past a shop every day to get to the beach that had a large cream coloured sailing yacht in the window just wanting to be bought - unfortunately my pocket money didn't stretch that far but I am certain this was the start of my love of boats, I can still picture the shop window so clearly nearly 50 years later as though I had walked past it yesterday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTirhXCnIkc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTirhXCnIkc)
C-3PO
I have admired johns builds from afar, and it is lovely to see a Shannon lifeboat that is sailing at scale speed, and not like a hoon of an offshore power boat doing a scale 60 knots, lol......…
lovely boat. hope you enjoy it and be a good custodian to it.
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A credit to John (MK1) and his amazing build of the Ilfracombe Shannon 13-09, I am just starting to appreciate some of his skill in the building this awesome model.
For years as a kid I went to Ilfracombe with my parents on our annual holiday. We used to walk past a shop every day to get to the beach that had a large cream coloured sailing yacht in the window just wanting to be bought - unfortunately my pocket money didn't stretch that far but I am certain this was the start of my love of boats, I can still picture the shop window so clearly nearly 50 years later as though I had walked past it yesterday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTirhXCnIkc
C-3PO
I can only add what a beautiful model she is, and Im sure she looks as good out of the water as in it. So glad she has gone to a good owner who Im sure will be proud to own her and show her.
Thanks John for your build
Mick f
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it is lovely to see a Shannon lifeboat that is sailing at scale speed, and not like a hoon of an offshore power boat doing a scale 60 knots, lol......…
That isn’t even close to scale speed though. Shannons plane, they get the bow dry. It seems most owners have had less than desirable results with the scale jetdrives on these though, it just seems to be one of these things.
It’s a lovely model, really well done. Congrats on a great build and something to be proud of :-))
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That isn’t even close to scale speed though. Shannons plane, they get the bow dry. It seems most owners have had less than desirable results with the scale jetdrives on these though, it just seems to be one of these things.
It’s a lovely model, really well done. Congrats on a great build and something to be proud of :-))
Hi McGherkin,
A couple of us are now monitoring the actual speed across the ground and the RPM of the impellers and making progress.
It's fair to say that my 13-09 is considerably slower on brushed than a couple of the guys on brushless.
Andy (T33cno) who sadly is no longer posting on here ran his boat last weekend and had an impressive performance from it (very lifelike)
MK1 who created this model suggested that he thought it would benefit from brushless motors - I ordered the motor mount brackets from KMB for the jets 2 days ago and will shortly order the motors to take it brushless.
So behind the scenes there is quite a lot of activity!
C-3PO
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Andy - T33cno's Shannon build
Here are a couple of Andy's video's
Video 1 - RNLI Shannon first open water run with a starboard motor issue but still a success that can be built on. Film credit to Michael Richardson of Kirklees MBC & Balne moor MBC.
https://youtu.be/Xvm1AZKQhLU
Video 2 - Motors now "both" working with 50 amp Turnigy marine ESC's BUT taking water under the deck so only short run.
https://youtu.be/T9J7eLUmWFA
C-3PO
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Even though i am not building a Shannon, i have been following the progress of all the Shannon Builders over on the Facebook 'Shannon Builders' Group. They are all to be commended for the efforts they are making, and for the sharing of info, in a friendly positive way :-))
Charlie
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That isn’t even close to scale speed though. Shannons plane, they get the bow dry. It seems most owners have had less than desirable results with the scale jetdrives on these though, it just seems to be one of these things.
It’s a lovely model, really well done. Congrats on a great build and something to be proud of :-))
Just revisited this thread to question how fast is fast enough? I think I'm over gunning it here and using slower motors too.
Also sailing in high wind with no shortage of grunt. Another builder has very recently questioned the necessity of trim tabs. I can assure doubters that this would be stood on end without them fully deployed at speed.
https://youtu.be/Pg4sldNNFRY?list=UUBpqJeouRjPUXS7PdSs7CrQ (https://youtu.be/Pg4sldNNFRY?list=UUBpqJeouRjPUXS7PdSs7CrQ)
John's Shannon must be the best Scratch built example in existence and a twin ! Only issue I see from MK1 is she looks too heavy in the water and speed would be more realistic if some ballast could be shed :-))