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Title: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 05:57:57 pm
hi all

apart  from my intrests in listening to planes ships and lifeboats on my scanner and ais tracking on my compuiters in my shed,  i am toying with the idea of of getting a kit of a train,  i noticed airfix and i have noticed kitmaster under roburts or somthing and kitmaster under another name in plastic bag,  has i never built a model before witch one would you say would be easy one to start off with
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: joppyuk1 on January 12, 2016, 06:29:01 pm
Try something simple to start with. The little 0-4-0 Pug started life with Kitmaster, was taken on by Airfix and is now covered by Dapol, so both your suggested manufacturers had a hand in it. Use a piece of picture frame glass to get everything sitting level.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 06:36:42 pm
 what diffreance with dapol plastic bag and robusrt box,  box one says moving parts,  i have look for the pug 0-4-0,   i was looking also at airfix BR railcar even kitmaster GWR tank in BR green or black,   im more BR fan thne privert
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: essex2visuvesi on January 12, 2016, 06:50:23 pm
is that tank,   also what diffreance with dapol plastic box and robusrt box,  box one says moving parts,  i have look for th epug 0-4-0,   i w slooking also at airfix BR railcar even kitmaster GWR tank in BR green,   im more BR fan thne privert


The Dapol BR Railcar is a nice kit, be check the major panels for straightness
I built one and motorized it with lights :)
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 06:56:21 pm
br railcar seems already panited,    steam ones seem to need painting before hand,   does it come with key to what paints to get from local model railway shop etc
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: joppyuk1 on January 12, 2016, 06:58:51 pm
what diffreance with dapol plastic bag and robusrt box,  box one says moving parts,  i have look for the pug 0-4-0,   i was looking also at airfix BR railcar even kitmaster GWR tank in BR green or black,   im more BR fan thne privert


It's a while since I made one, but the moving parts are wheels, valve gear and pivoting coupling, so these should still be as original. Have a look on that auction site as there are usually a lot offered.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 07:00:32 pm
yes i bene looking on there and seen many from the airfix BR railcar to tanks and tenders,   
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: joppyuk1 on January 12, 2016, 07:02:45 pm
br railcar seems already panited,    steam ones seem to need painting before hand,   does it come with key to what paints to get from local model railway shop etc


It depends what colour plastic the kit comes in. For a first effort, you could do the loco black all over, with red buffer beams, brass rails and buffers. Instructions usually cover these things.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 07:04:13 pm

It depends what colour plastic the kit comes in. For a first effort, you could do the loco black all over, with red buffer beams, brass rails and buffers. Instructions usually cover these things.

yeah one on the site showed pics and parts of the body was already dark green
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: joppyuk1 on January 12, 2016, 07:06:57 pm
Go on! take the plunge. You never know, it might lead to a whole model railway. Whatever you do, enjoy it and use the experience. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 12, 2016, 07:09:30 pm
Go on! take the plunge. You never know, it might lead to a whole model railway. Whatever you do, enjoy it and use the experience. Best of luck.

thank you,   i will do it,  i think i try the 0-4-0 pug as adviced,  it wont be runner as i havent got a layout or the know but if it not bad build it can go on self next to my stobart models and stobart rail ones to
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: TailUK on January 13, 2016, 09:15:40 am
thank you,   i will do it,  i think i try the 0-4-0 pug as adviced,  it wont be runner as i havent got a layout or the know but if it not bad build it can go on self next to my stobart models and stobart rail ones to

If you have Stobart's Low Loader the Pug would make an excellent load to go on it.  Living near the Great Central Railway I see all kinds of loco's going through town on lorries.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 13, 2016, 04:05:04 pm
If you have Stobart's Low Loader the Pug would make an excellent load to go on it.  Living near the Great Central Railway I see all kinds of loco's going through town on lorries.

oh nice lucky,  we dont get freight anymore lol

i have 3 stobart low loaders,  2x lily jean one on stright plenith from atlas and other was speical edition one from oxford / stobart and and is on right angle and also nicole melissa from atlas
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: fireboot on January 18, 2016, 10:34:00 am
Greetings
Any of the Dapol range are reasonably straightforward  and can be produced to whatever standard you want...Ill drop in some pictures of an ongoing build I have running later...a good test for me  :}
 
As the guys suggest the pug is a good starter


Main thing is just enjoy the build...you never know where you will end up LOL




Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: fireboot on January 18, 2016, 09:21:41 pm
Here is a link to a few images of an ongoing project utilising the Dapol/airfix Mogul Loco..creating two versions of the same loco, one in Barry Island scrapyard condition and one in return to service Presevation condition....This is also a tester for my linking externally stored images to foorum posts...the password for the folder is shipmates  here goes ......  http://s666.photobucket.com/user/fireboot999/library/BR%20Standard%20Class%204%202-6-0%20Mogul (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/fireboot999/library/BR%20Standard%20Class%204%202-6-0%20Mogul)
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 18, 2016, 09:31:53 pm
hi

the link is passward protected
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: fireboot on January 18, 2016, 09:34:14 pm
Password should be         shipmates   
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 18, 2016, 09:45:31 pm
that looks great,  did you paint the controls before put on or did you mask everytihng off
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: fireboot on January 18, 2016, 09:49:45 pm
Thanks..the controls are all moulded on so it was spray the whole part black and then using a size 0 brush paint the pipes, gauges and water glasses by hand :-))
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on January 18, 2016, 10:36:28 pm
nice work
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on February 05, 2016, 01:39:51 am
i have brought thr pug,  the mogul, schools class rugby, city of truro and the battle of britian class,  wish me luck,  also what type paint and code of paint do i use ?
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: joppyuk1 on February 05, 2016, 01:12:47 pm
It's a matter of choice, really. For some really good advice, go to  www.uamf.org.uk  (the Unofficial Airfix Modellers' Forum) and go down to the Cars,Trucks, Bikes, Locos and other civvie vehicles thread. Some locos in there.
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: essex2visuvesi on February 05, 2016, 01:56:21 pm
i have brought thr pug,  the mogul, schools class rugby, city of truro and the battle of britian class,  wish me luck,  also what type paint and code of paint do i use ?


Most Rail modellers use these:-
https://www.howesmodels.co.uk/subcat/RailMatch%20Paint%20-%20Acrylic
https://www.howesmodels.co.uk/subcat/RailMatch%20Paint%20-%20Enamel


Depends on your preferred medium


Alos humbrol do a range of rail colours but only in acrylic
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/shop/paints/acrylic-rail-colours.html

Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: fireboot on February 05, 2016, 02:40:40 pm
Exactly what Essex said...and for the overall black locos you can do a lot worse than a Halfords matt black spray can  :-)  ( Other brands of aerosol paint are available  :} )
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on February 05, 2016, 03:23:08 pm
what about umbrol if thats what it called ?
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: essex2visuvesi on February 05, 2016, 03:59:09 pm
what about umbrol if thats what it called ?




Alos humbrol do a range of rail colours but only in acrylic
http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/shop/paints/acrylic-rail-colours.html (http://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/shop/paints/acrylic-rail-colours.html)


Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on February 05, 2016, 06:50:23 pm
witch ones would be better  humbrol or ones from the other site,  aslong as i get likes of BR black or BR gren steam wise
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: essex2visuvesi on February 06, 2016, 01:07:34 am
I've used the railmatch Acrylic as I found them to give better coverage then humbrol Acrylics


the railmatch enamels are good and many swear by them but I prefer acrylics
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on February 06, 2016, 02:47:38 am
so the preferd option is railmatch i look into that
Title: Re: Kitmaster or Airfix
Post by: smudger1309 on February 06, 2016, 02:40:30 pm
also i forgot to ask what is best size brush