Model Boat Mayhem

The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Submarines => Topic started by: Klunk on January 22, 2016, 03:50:21 am

Title: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 22, 2016, 03:50:21 am

Right a couple of questions. What is the basic sub from the orginal batman series that penguin uses. It looks like a modified gato hull but I stand to be core ted. Also, a gentleman at work has asked me to do a feasibility study to see if one could be made. Scale is not a problem but control of it could be as there was no prop (substituted for flippers ) and no ruđder. The flippers  i have worked out but the rudder is a  different story

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: tsenecal on January 22, 2016, 05:41:19 am

best answer i found:


https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070523095346AAA0njq




but, basically, google is your friend.

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 22, 2016, 06:04:44 am

Been there done that. The fight scene is a mock up of a gato class. The model sub looks like a modified early u boat.  But the conning  and hull look to come from different types of u boat

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Plastic - RIP on January 22, 2016, 07:54:35 am

I suspect that this is a 'made up' submarine - the film was from the mid '60s so there wasn't the internet or ample photos and plans available to the modellers back then - only 20 years after the war!

It looks a bit like a generic 'German sub'.

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Andyn on January 23, 2016, 07:32:31 am

It's a Gato hull with a Type 7c conning tower, with what appears to be a shortened main deck. It could be quite easily made by kit bashing two 1:72 kits


I've an idea about propulsion etc, so I'll see you at work...

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 23, 2016, 07:36:35 am

Propulsion was the easy part. It's the rudder that's the problem.

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Andyn on January 23, 2016, 08:23:24 am

Oddly, I can't actually see a rudder in any pictures?

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 23, 2016, 08:25:14 am

Precisely

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 23, 2016, 01:04:52 pm

Maybe you could steer it with the same system as a flying wing flown by model flyers, they have no rudder or tail fin. You would need a good mixer on your radio with v tail mixing though. U2

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Andyn on January 23, 2016, 09:07:51 pm

It'd do beautiful barrel rolls {-)


Maybe a super sneaky split hinged rear section that opens either side of the hull to turn? You'd never see it on the water and you wouldn't notice the split out of water

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 05:18:11 pm

http://smileysamwich.tumblr.com/post/6353898776/nevver-the-penguins-submarine-batman-the
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2011/10/batman22.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/2/2a/Pen_Sub.png/revision/latest?cb=20090728195244
http://culttvman.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mgrimapengsub06.jpg

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Plastic - RIP on January 24, 2016, 05:30:02 pm

Quote from: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 05:18:11 pm

http://smileysamwich.tumblr.com/post/6353898776/nevver-the-penguins-submarine-batman-the (http://smileysamwich.tumblr.com/post/6353898776/nevver-the-penguins-submarine-batman-the)
http://comicsalliance.com/files/2011/10/batman22.jpg (http://comicsalliance.com/files/2011/10/batman22.jpg)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/2/2a/Pen_Sub.png/revision/latest?cb=20090728195244 (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/2/2a/Pen_Sub.png/revision/latest?cb=20090728195244)
http://culttvman.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mgrimapengsub06.jpg (http://culttvman.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mgrimapengsub06.jpg)

I think you're all over-thinking this.

Still looks like a totally made-up sub with a conning tower stuck on.

It's a pretty low-budget film so they probably made the mechanism first and then invented a hull around it and then found a conning tower from a model sub that looked ok when glued on.

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 05:48:19 pm

The sub in the fight scene was borrowed from another film. A lot of the I ternal scenes were rejigged from 20000 leagues under the sea. The model of the penguin sub was a hybrid model made very low budget from ex wwii movies. It just need identifying that's all

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: salmon on January 24, 2016, 06:06:37 pm

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_06_zps0hflfsza.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_06_zps0hflfsza.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_05_zpslnzuj6bp.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_05_zpslnzuj6bp.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_04_zpsinznehjj.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_04_zpsinznehjj.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_02_zpsastmpnoi.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_02_zpsastmpnoi.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_01_zpsbkc0eg7e.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/PenguinSubMiniature_01_zpsbkc0eg7e.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/Pen_Sub_zpsia6a0a4l.png) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/Pen_Sub_zpsia6a0a4l.png.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/pengions-submarine_zpswguki92h.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/pengions-submarine_zpswguki92h.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/batmansub2_zpsidgcjc1n.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/batmansub2_zpsidgcjc1n.jpg.html)


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/batmansub3_zpsh0t8a1vo.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/batmansub3_zpsh0t8a1vo.jpg.html)


I think that is all I have on the Penguin sub. The model was a restoration of the studio model (so I was told).
Enjoy!
Peace,
Tom

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: salmon on January 24, 2016, 06:12:55 pm

I thought the Tower looks more like a Type II U-Boat.

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 07:07:46 pm

looks like a type viid minelayer , a very simplistic version to say the least!

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: salmon on January 24, 2016, 07:54:44 pm

The giveaway to me for a Type II tower is the radar in the front of the tower. The model is missing the piece, but the movie stills shows it.


Look at this:


(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/rcsubmarine/Penguin/dkm-u-boat-type-ii-1935-u-9_zps17wie5yj.gif) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/rcsubmarine/media/Penguin/dkm-u-boat-type-ii-1935-u-9_zps17wie5yj.gif.html)

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 08:11:53 pm

There's a step down behind the conning tower on the movie sub. Quite pronounced.  Very similar to a vii d

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: Klunk on January 24, 2016, 08:12:29 pm

Although your conning tower looks spot on

Title: Re: Penguins sub from batman
Post by: salmon on January 24, 2016, 10:54:35 pm

Haha, who knows? I hope you do build this. It is a very unique movie sub and it looks like it can be rc'd. I have too many subs on my plate right now.
If you find anything else about this sub, please post!