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Title: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on February 05, 2016, 02:24:49 pm
Its the 100th anniversary of Jutland on 31st May which works nicely with Wicksteed/Model Boat Mayhem in May.

Any plans to assemble as many Dreadnoughts as we can?

Might be good fun.

I hope to bring Iron Duke (1/96 scale) but as a fall back may have to clean up a very old model of Neptune also in 1/96 scale.


Cheers

Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND*** Sign Up***
Post by: raflaunches on February 05, 2016, 08:33:12 pm
Grand plan, everyone who has a WW1 era vessel, if possible something that was at Jutland, meet up at Wicksteed on the Saturday at Mayhem (28th I believe) to get as many Dreadnoughts and alike in one place for this amazing commemoration of this battle.
I don't know of anything else planned in the country for such an event but if we can get 10 or more models it'll be fantastic.
Please sign up on this thread :-))


PS we do need both Royal Navy and Kaiserliche Marine!
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Colin Bishop on February 05, 2016, 08:40:04 pm
Come on Nick, you KNOW it was America what won it!  ok2

Colin
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Klunk on February 05, 2016, 08:49:48 pm
I thought this was already on a thread somewhere!
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: ballastanksian on February 05, 2016, 10:49:28 pm
The subject is crystalising on several topics including here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53116.0.html , here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53566.0.html and here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,50752.msg543033.html#msg543033

The upshot is that this could be ab astounding spectacle what with the Kriegsmarine there as well. Geoff, it would be great if Neptune could attend as well as 'The Duke', it would add battleship coolness to the proceedings.

Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Klunk on February 06, 2016, 02:35:56 am
Thanks Ballastanksian
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Dean's Marine on February 06, 2016, 06:20:33 pm
Deans marine will be attending this year as normal, we will try to bring as many WWW1 models as we can get in the van in any spare space. weather permitting.
we have Dreadnought, majestic, magnificent, Hannibal, Emden, skirmisher, Sentinel. amazon, Mohawk, M15, M33, Humber, and any other we can kit in. Plus we hope some our other customers will ring out the big stuff. (big Hint, you konw who you are) Bellepreron, Royal oak, Dreadnought, Agincourt,
 see you at the show
 Regards
 Deans Marine
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on February 09, 2016, 01:28:44 pm
Agincourt, to 1/96 scale - who has that, any pictures?

Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Dean's Marine on February 09, 2016, 01:35:14 pm
see here all the gen two being built already


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,53345.0.html
 Regards
 deans Marine
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on February 09, 2016, 02:56:35 pm
They're members of Wicksteed club and have said that if it's finished they'll display her on the water.
And I've seen the hull, what a beauty!
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on April 19, 2016, 04:46:00 pm
Okay, we are getting near to "coaling up time" for the Jutland, Wicksteed meet.


Iron Duke will certainly be there but I may not have everything functioning, we will have to see. So how many Dreadnoughts do we potentially have, maybe?


Iron Duke
Royal Oak
Dreadnought (being built)
Dreadnought (Ron Deans)
Agincourt (with a bit of luck)


Any others out there that can attend?


On another note Portsmouth Dockyard have just announced a Jutland exhibition.


Cheers


Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on April 19, 2016, 06:05:03 pm
Agincourt depends but Ron Kingdons Bellerphron will be, and if Sheila comes too I've asked her to bring Superb.
I think Tony H is bringing Nassau and some escorts and Tony Newstead has some to choose from too- at least a couple of destroyers. :-))
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: tonyH on April 19, 2016, 08:02:34 pm
Ja, SMS Nassau und zwei torpedobooten zusammen. <*<
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: ballastanksian on April 19, 2016, 08:14:58 pm
If niggly little things like not having a proper marking gauge don't scupper progress then HMS Ready will be there even if she is grey and lacking in the finer details. Once I test her in the lake on Sunday I can weld down the deck supports and then get crackoing on the quarter deck and plating.

Much of the large details such as the bridge and torpedo tubes are mostly done and the guns were painted eons ago.
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on April 20, 2016, 11:06:54 am
This is going to be very good, we just need to decide which day of the weekend we are all going to sail together for the big event.  :-))
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on April 20, 2016, 11:10:11 am
I'm planning for Saturday - Iron Duke

Cheers

Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on April 21, 2016, 01:28:28 pm
Given that Portsmouth is doing a Jutland exhibition and the powers that be do seem to be recognising this historic battle I wonder if we can all convene on the Saturday whether the newspapers may be interested?


Good publicity for all and in particular our hobby.



Cheers


Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on April 21, 2016, 02:41:09 pm
I've had words with Wicksteed park management about media and they have a man who deals with that sort of thing but I'll gee them up and get our point across
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Klunk on April 22, 2016, 03:08:09 am
This is going to be very good, we just need to decide which day of the weekend we are all going to sail together for the big event.  :-))

No reason it cannot be both days. Saturday the main one sunday as well for those that could not make saturday.

Ps sms schliessen is behind schedule due to plans!!!
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: derekwarner on April 22, 2016, 04:30:43 am
Hey guys.......plenty of images please for those members [me included] who are just a few km away to attend  ..[like about 22,000 km away]  {-)................ Derek
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on April 22, 2016, 11:41:31 am
Hope you are building HMS Australia! She would fit right in!

If we get 6 to 8 dreadnoughts together you can be sure of lots of pictures - maybe even a video or two on u-tube would be great.

Cheers

Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on April 22, 2016, 11:42:07 am
Definitely will be sailing both days for those attending for the weekend, if everyone is happy with the Saturday being the main big event with Sunday as the normal sailing of WW1 and pre dreadnought era vessels.
I'll get the park informed of the day so if they can get their media guy down to the lake.


Don't worry Derrick, we'll make sure there are plenty of pictures. :-))
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: raflaunches on April 22, 2016, 11:42:34 am
We definitely need a battlecruiser!!!
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: ballastanksian on April 22, 2016, 07:18:49 pm
That would be great, I have Australia pencilled in to build, but not for a few years.
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on May 23, 2016, 08:49:51 am
I saw a TV programme over the weekend - Secret History - Jutland. In my view it was very mixed and if my memory is correct didn't mention Sheers second turn towards the British fleet and their massed torpedo attack and then Jellico's turn away. It just mentioned the one clash. It didn't mention the loss of Invincible and it didn't mention that the German battleship Pommern blew up in the night fighting. I know programmes are time conscious but these three events were material.


 [size=78%]I also went to see the National Maritime Museum (Greenwich) Jutland display. This was quite good if very small. The center piece being the model of Queen Mary which was displayed in a very dark room? Why do they insist on doing this? (Chatham is the same). The computer graphics of the battle were quite well done but other than a few paintings and flags there were very few pictures of the main protagonist fleets. Candidly a little disappointing particularly given the huge amount of wasted space at Greenwich.[/size]
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on May 23, 2016, 08:53:32 am
In hindsight it may not have been secret History as this programme didn't mention Nick Jellico and the diving expedition - so appologies if I got the wrong programme but I'm sure others saw this as well.


G
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 23, 2016, 09:02:50 am
Yes, the programme you thought you were referring to was rather disappointing. There seem to be several programmes on Jutland, most of them using similar material and not giving a very clear view of the battle.

There is some discussion here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,54301.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,54301.0.html)

I've rather given up on the NMM since it put most of its models in storage but it looks as if there will be a better exhibition on Jutland at Portsmouth which has just opened:

http://www.nmrn.org.uk/news-events/nmrn-blog/%E2%80%9836-hours-jutland-1916-battle-won-war%E2%80%99-blockbuster-exhibition-open-national (http://www.nmrn.org.uk/news-events/nmrn-blog/%E2%80%9836-hours-jutland-1916-battle-won-war%E2%80%99-blockbuster-exhibition-open-national)

Colin
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Geoff on May 23, 2016, 01:22:16 pm
Anybody been to the Portsmouth exhibition yet? Worth going?


Cheers


Geoff
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 23, 2016, 02:18:08 pm
I hope to in the next week or so.

Colin
Title: Re: JUTLAND
Post by: NFMike on May 28, 2016, 07:14:00 pm
Another programme about Jutland tomorrow, but it sounds worthwhile for those who don't know much about the battle.
It's on BBC 2 at 9, after the new Top Gear.
This is what the Radio Times has to say:
Reviewed by David Butcher
If you’re interested in Jutland, you’ll know what brought about the deaths of more than 6,000 British sailors. But this brilliantly detailed look at the battle assumes we don’t know; indeed, presenters Dan Snow and Shini Somara pretend they don’t know, that they’re digging around for historical revelations. The result is a splendid primer on a tragic episode, sometimes seen as a sideshow of the First World War but in fact, new research suggests, a turning point.

We see model ships sunk, explosions staged, big guns fired and the inside of “the most destructive and powerful weapons system the world had ever seen”.


I intend to have a look.