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Title: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: tonyH on August 25, 2016, 03:55:30 pm
Hi All,

Has anyone got the plans for the Thornycroft MTB that's been around for a long time?
I'm refurbishing one for a friend and I'm trying to identify the colour scheme that may (or may not) have been included on the plans. The father who built it can't remember what he used but it was probably Humbrol from the 70's. The main colour used is almost a pale Khaki, with dark sea grey (or similar) stripes.
Is there any info on the plans?

Cheers

TonyH
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: John W E on August 25, 2016, 05:28:18 pm
Hi will this help

Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: TailUK on August 25, 2016, 05:43:01 pm
Hi All,

Has anyone got the plans for the Thornycroft MTB that's been around for a long time?
I'm refurbishing one for a friend and I'm trying to identify the colour scheme that may (or may not) have been included on the plans. The father who built it can't remember what he used but it was probably Humbrol from the 70's. The main colour used is almost a pale Khaki, with dark sea grey (or similar) stripes.
Is there any info on the plans?

Cheers

TonyH

If you're referring to the Vic Smeed plan, I've got a copy of that and it doesn't have any colour recommendation on it.
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: TailUK on August 25, 2016, 06:13:37 pm
Age of the paint on the model may have caused a colour change.
  MTBs and Gunboats usually wore "Western Approaches" colours in home waters.  Any reference by John Lambert on Coastal Forces will be useful, if you don't want to buy them ask you're local library (If you've still got one) to order them in for you.
recommended reading;     The Painter's Guide to WWII Naval Camouflage by Patrick Hreachmack
                                      Coastal Forces at War: The Royal Navy's "Little Ships" in the Narrow Seas 1939-45 by David Jefferson
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: tonyH on August 25, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
Thanks all but I think he (the builder) must have had a 'bright idea' {-)

I assume that it's from the Vic Smeed plan, if that's the one from many years ago, unless that itself had a predecessor?

I think what he's done is use a photo I've found of MTB 34 (A Vosper) and applied it to the Thornycroft.
I've attached a photo of the same boat so if anyone can tell me what the colours should be for that scheme , so at least I can sort out what he was aiming for, I'd be grateful. At the moment it looks like B30 and MS1.

Cheers

Tony
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: longshanks on August 25, 2016, 11:30:39 pm
Possibly the best reference would be

Coastal Craft History Vol 1 by Mark Smith

Review here
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980720-coastal-craft-history-volume-1/
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: John W E on August 26, 2016, 08:43:15 am
 :-))
From the book

Allied Torpedo Boats
By
 John Lambert
Les Brown
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: TailUK on August 26, 2016, 09:01:30 am
Don't forget that camouflage white was an off white edging towards cream and pure white was kept for counter shading. B 15 looks to be a dark bluish grey.  I found the second set of colour chips which includes B 15.
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: tonyH on August 26, 2016, 09:17:37 am
Hi All,

Many,many thanks for the input. It's much appreciated.
It's now all to obvious that he's taken an 'interesting' approach to the colour scheme %)

Tony :-))
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: TailUK on August 26, 2016, 12:34:34 pm
I'd be interested to a picture of your boat.
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: tonyH on August 26, 2016, 03:04:06 pm
Will do when it's less of a WIP .

Decorator sat on it when painting the owners garage/shed! Hence the refurb.

As far as the colour is concerned, I've now done a bit more demolition and found the original colour, which was bluey grey but the varnish he put on has yellowed to give the khaki shade. Luckily, our local toyshop has started stocking the full range of Vallejo paints so I've borrowed a selection and will experiment with a colour match on the final varnish+paint tone >:-o

TonyH
 
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: Bridkid on October 18, 2016, 01:33:18 pm
Wow! More choices, thanks.  :}
Title: Re: Thornycroft MTB colour scheme?
Post by: DougA on July 12, 2017, 11:39:09 am

Hi will this help
Hi,
I've recently acquired a Thornycroft MTB which, although very well modelled, has been poorly repainted at some point. The top coat is flaking away so my plan is to remove all the paint and start again.
Thornycroft MTBs don't seem to have been in service for long before being sold or reconfigured for other roles. I'd very much like to represent it in something approaching the correct colour scheme. There in lies the rub, any images I've found have been b&w or a mash-up of other camouflage schemes. This looks promising but is there a plan view of the colour scheme as well?


Many thanks in Advance
Doug