Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: ojays on October 07, 2016, 10:05:52 pm
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In the middle of the Gato build I often get lose my bored, so I have started another build on the side.
Weekends my wife and I often spend some time in the country, taking the Gato and all associated with became awkward.
I have now left the Gato for weekends, and am building the 'Big E' at home, just transporting my tools between builds.
Although it is my intention to motorise, I also want to build the hangar deck (complete with lighting) that can be viewed
through the elevator entrances. The bridge/tower will also be illuminated (well that's the plan hopefully)
I purchased several after market items such as PE elevators, deck equipment, extra aircraft and a full PE detail up kits.
Using 'L' shaped plasticard I ran runners the length of the inner hull sides to seat the hangar deck on.
The bridge/tower I hollowed out to allow access for the lighting/wiring. The observant of you will also see my deliberate mistake, I opened up an area that didn't need opening.
Luckily it wasn't too difficult to correct, thank god for greenstuff.
Hopefully the photos will be self explanatory.
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Bridge/tower hollowing out for lighting and wiring.
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Removal of the moulded in safety nets from around the deck, to be replaced with PE netting.
Removal of the moulded in elevator, a all elevators will be replaced with PE items.
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Fabrication of the PE elevators and trusses, plus kit sponsons attached to the hull.
A trial fit of the elevators showed up a small gap, that will require filling with a strip of plasticard
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Apologise for the previous posts, hadn't realised they were still in large file format. futures ones in reduced file format.
Laying out the base of the hanger decking with walls and elevator entrances.
These are laid on plasticard runners attached to the hull sides.
The baking paper underneath the parts, is to prevent any superglue that may have leached through from the joints
sticking the part to the work base.
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ojays.......don't be concerned with the image sizing's you have posted on the 7th ....the larger the image [as permissible within the WEB site rules] the greater detail we all see :-))
Looking forward to the build................. Derek
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Did try to post some more pics in the larger format, a box came up letting me know that I have exceeded the permitted file size.
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A little bit more done on the hanger deck today.
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Hi
looking very nice . I have built this model too and made it RC. One thing to watch is weight . as big as the hull is there is not much below the water line to support extra weight . She is very top heavy . I add a removable keel and this made her rock steady and could sail in strong winds
john
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Thanks for the info John, I had already realised the centre of gravity was a problem and had been intending fitting a removable keel/skeg.
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Had to have a rethink with the hanger deck, after realising I wouldn't have enough room for the electrics and fibre optics.
Have now separated into two separate decks, but have started the ancillaries such as sliding safety doors, watch office, refuelling pipe work, racks for aircraft fuel tanks, chopper blades etc. Purely a figment of my imagination as I have never seen inside an aircraft hanger.
May not suit some but I'm happy with it.
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Currently having a mojo moment with another build so, have returned to this one.
I have managed to cut out the area of the propshaft tubes, to be able to fit the shafts and tubes I will be working with.
The threaded shafts are 2mm thread, the props in the photo are not the ones that will be used.
I have a new set of brass ones on order from Protean Design.
Made a start on the tie down holes, but still got about another 100 to do yet.
The kit recesses where too faint for me to just paint, my painting hand isn't steady enough to paint them.
This way I can fill the hole with white paint and wipe away any overspill, they are not as deep as they look in the photo!
I have also purchased some light string for illuminating the hanger deck.
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Some more work on the shafts, fitted and blended in with the hull.
A little bit of green stuff for some dimples/scratches.
I have had to make some new 'A' frames, as our little dog managed to eat the kit ones.
I had left them on the floor though, so I suppose it's my own fault.
Made them with square plastic rod, brass tubing lined with nylon tube as a lining.
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Made start on some of the PE, and fitted the tinted windows.
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Decided to make a start on the photo etch add ons for the bridge area.
I can't use all of them as fingers/eyes aren't good enough for the really miniscule items, not to mention my patience.
A little filler needed here and there , but nothing major before painting.
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A little more done today, some of the railings on the control tower/bridge.
Not the best of results, but will fettle up when my eyes have relaxed.
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Just managed to complete some of the mods needed for the R/C conversion.
Using generic micro rudders, I cut them down to just a little bigger than scale size.
I bonded some plasticard to each side and used filler to build up the profile.
Not perfect but happy so far.
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Got some mojo back, so plodding on with some of the mods.
Shaft 'A' frames secured, rudder linkages, measured, bent and fitted.
Fitted magnets and slide fittings to removable decks.
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ojays... going very well :-)).....
A little confusion.......the Tamya clearly displays inboard turning propellers, however the Big E...[as do all Nimitz Class Carriers] have outboard propellers] ..
[the first image is the kit]
[the second image is the Enterprise in dock]
Saw her in Sydney many years ago......[just from the water up....all we could see was tall grey ...she is huge]....... Derek
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Thanks for the pics Derek.
Easy enough to swap the props over when the time comes.
Possibly the inboard turning props would effect the rudders. (just a guess)
I saw her back in the 90's when she stopped off at Marmaris in Turkey.
My wife couldn't understand why we could see right through her (all the hanger doors were open)
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Ojays, very fine work sir. thanks for showing how its done. Yes, 1/350 scale is great fun, especially working with PE. Anxious to see her sailing. I was stationed aboard the USS Ranger CVA-61, back in 1969. And I thought she was big at the time! Best regards, Dennis
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Waiting for some parts from SHG so getting on with the lighting for the hanger deck.
I'm using some battery operated Christmas lights for the deck and Bridge area.
Having problems with my camera so photo's not brilliant.
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Totally awesome! :-))
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Given up on my order, so decided to make my own couplings and motor mountings.
Just doing a rough mock up with some old firework rocket stems, to check sizes and fit.
Couplings a mixture of hollow plastic tube & neoprene fuel tubing.
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While waiting for some suitable weather to launch my A.T.C.H and Corvette, I started looking for another challenge.
Having not done anything on my 1/350 Tamiya Enterprise since August last year, I pulled it down from the top of the wardrobe, and made a little headway over the last few days.
First off applying the Boatswain Deck Decals NOT!
The worst set of decals I have ever encountered.
If they didn't float off the backing paper in pieces, they fell apart when adjusting positions.
A complete waste of money, and they weren't cheap.
Even the '65' figures were a quarter of an inch shorter than the moulded figures.
I restorted to masking and stippling, a method I used to use on model aircraft.
I thin the paint and build up the coats until I'm happy with the opacity. Doing it this way it prevents bleeding under the masking tape.
When I had done the deck markings I gave the hull a coat of colour over the previously applied pre shading (stippled again)
One more coat should do it.
I have now started deck weathering.
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First coat of hull paint over the pre-shading.
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Yes, I have experienced the same sad situation with decals I have worked with. I have had limited success with water temp and time in water... lukewarm and short time in solution has helped, but not 100%. Your method of masking and stipiling has produced wonderful results that I just might try next time. I agree, the paint must be thinned or it will peel away from edges. Some of the new masking tapes out on the market in the US, like Green Frog works well to prevent tear away, but I'm afraid it is not fine enough for the scale we are dealing with here. Perhaps others have suggestions? Dennis
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Most of the tapes I use are from the vehicle refinishing industry.
Having been a paint and body restorer, I know the benefits of certain automotive products.
Pinstripe lining tape is my go to tape for sharp lines and flexibility for corners etc., then normal
masking tape for larger areas.
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Some progress this weekend, some of the electrics in and working.
Next up, water and ballast test.
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I love the weathering on the flight deck... that is the way it looked! D.
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I saw this on the net, and realised just how worn it could get.
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nice job with the eletrics
chris
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Thank you.
A little update with the hanger deck area.
Made a start with the aircraft and crew, but getting eye strain with these miniscule 1/350
figures from Eduard.
Well, I'll persevere.
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Wow! That is just awesome hanger deck detail. I know what you are up against at 1/350 scale and I applaud you sir. Dennis
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HI there your model looks great have you treid to float an see if she balanced ok
chris
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Fantastic :-))
chris
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HI there your model looks great have you treid to float an see if she balanced ok
chris
Waiting to get every thing fitted before I do ballast testing.
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HI the planes look great in the hanger I am amazed at how much working you have fitted in I am now goin to look properly at your enterprise build as I just scimmed through this is a cracker of a build I scratch built Nimitz in 1/144 scale so I know how much effort you have put into this build v-well done
chris :-)) :-)) :-))
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Thank you for your kind comments, taking longer than I thought it would.
I know all the electrics work, so not concerned with that side of things anymore.
I'm still working on the air wing, approximately at #50 so far, and the support
equipment around and about.
I don't know what possessed me to take on anything this small, I normally do 1/35,
1/48 and 1/72 scale.
My eyes and fingers are really suffering with this, but I'll persevere, though I know I wont
take on anything this small again.
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HI I hope to see some pics of her sailing ?. As up at the Norwich pond a gent had one of these that sails but I did not see it sail as he said it was to windy an please do persevere as you are building it better than I could in this scale i'll be watching the build great stuff I love carrier's
chris
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Blimey there's a tremendous amount of work gone into that, and my I say it looks incredible .
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Blimey there's a tremendous amount of work gone into that, and my I say it looks incredible .
I remember your screen name from Relish Models Forum.
Any Idea what happened to it, as no new posts for years.
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Almost there with the airwing.
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Boy, that brings back immediate memories, didn't think I'd get er done... airplanes forever. She is sure a beaut and you can never have too many jets. Building my Spit is like coming down off a huge high.... Cheers! Dennis
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HI I know I have asked this question before but have you treid to test float her as I don't want to be a downer on this but all the extra components an all the planes add weight may not seem much but with a carrier this small its a job to make her balance an she may sit to deep in the water. As I know from building my Nimitz its got to be a pefect balanceing act but I hope she is ok
chris
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HI I know I have asked this question before but have you treid to test float her as I don't want to be a downer on this but all the extra components an all the planes add weight may not seem much but with a carrier this small its a job to make her balance an she may sit to deep in the water. As I know from building my Nimitz its got to be a pefect balanceing act but I hope she is ok
chris
I do know what you mean, however I'm not too concerned at this point.
If it becomes a problem, I'll do what others have done and fit a removable keel/skeg.
Seen this done before, and was surprised as how stable the carrier looked and handled.
Gregg
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I do know what you mean, however I'm not too concerned at this point.
If it becomes a problem, I'll do what others have done and fit a removable keel/skeg.
Seen this done before, and was surprised as how stable the carrier looked and handled.
Gregg
[HI sorry if you do not know what I mean about a test float but im referring to the amount of buoyancy your hull give you eg. more wieght deeper she sits in the water how's that as I found that out building my big Nimitz in 1/144 scale/quote]
chris