Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: Bunkerbarge on August 16, 2007, 07:41:10 am
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Posting up a few pictures recently of our Sunday morning activities at the Kirklees club made me realise just what a lot of pictures of our members boats I have collected over the years so I thought that other members here may benefit from seeing some of them.
I'm not going to flood the place with huge numbers of pictures but every now and then I'll put a few pictures up and see if they generate any interest. Answering questions may take a while though as I will have to get back to the model owner but having said that there are a few well established members of Kirklees who post here so they can probably help.
Lets start the ball rolling first with a couple of shots of a crab fishing boat from Stan. This boat always generates positive comments, even from my wife who can't tell a bow from a stern, and I think the attraction is in the fact that the level of detail and realism is amazing. It also incorporates a very realistic diesel engine sound system that actually starts up when the throttle is first touched.
Next for something completely differrent is probably my favourite yacht at the club scratch built, plank on frame, by Raymond. The hull and fittings are an absolute pleasure to look at and the boat on the water is beautifull.
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Next up are a few of models from our most prolific, experienced and incredibly skillful builders, Alan.
Firstly is his steam launch. If I remember rightly it is fitted with a Cheddar Plover unit with one of thier Electronic Gas Valves and goes beautifully. As always from Alan, scratch built, plank on frame to an amazing standard and it looks beautiful on the water as well.
Next up are two of his electric driven steam launch. Once again scratch built from a magazine plan, which he actually suggested some modifications to as it proved unstable.
Finally a scratch built Long Tail launch. This was to his own design and was based on his observations made during a holiday in Thailand. This model was actually reviewed in "Marine Modelling International" magazine and demonstrates just what an active imagination can do when applied to making model boats.
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Next in line is a very nicely built and sensibly weathered Caldercraft Brannaren. A couple of figures bring it to life and the weathering does a very good job of making it look realistic on the water.
Next a couple of another one of Raymonds yachts. Once again scratchbuilt and handles superbly in a breeze. He tends to use this one while his larger one is being worked on so not a bad model as a second one!
Finally a very nicely built example of the Cumbrae Clyde pilot boat. If I remember rightly this was purchased in a poor condition and stripped and overhauled by the present owner to get it into the lovely condition it is in now.
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Superb keep them coming love the crab boat and coaster infact they are all fantastic .
what a great way for others to see other clubs boats which they probably would never get to see .
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Thanks for the support MCAT.
Let's have a lok at a couple of grey funnel's now. Firstly some shots of my own Cossack and another members Bedouin. Both made form the Deans kit and looking particularly good on the water together.
Next up we have a very nicely put together HMS Osprey kit from Mountfleet. When I was choosing my own steamer a couple of years ago it ended up in a choice between the Ben Ain and this one. The weathering has been done to a very realistic level and the model looks excellent on the water.
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Nice photos Bunkerbarge! Keep them coming! O0
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Thanks for the encouragement Polobeer.
Lets move on to a few sailing boats for the next ones.
First up is a scale schooner currently owner by Vic and, I believe, bought from another one of our members, Ian. She looks absolutely beautifull with a breeze behind her but I am reliably informed that she sails like a pig, which is why Vic goes through a lot of bow sprits!! That's his excuse anyway!
Next up is a lovely scratch build model from George. He has a couple of boats he brings down on a Sunday and they are both more of a scale model with a cabin etc. One actually looks more like a dinghy but they both handle superbly and are a testament to Georges building skills.
Finally one of mine, purchased from Alan of earlier posting fame. He made two of these for himself and his wife and then decided to make two more. I said he was a prolific builder. Anyway I was lucky enough to be able to buy this one off him and learn the dark art of sailing. I never realised how demanding it was until I tried this but I do enjoy it and I must admit a set of batteries lasts all morning!
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Great photos Bunkerbarge, and a wonderful way to allow others outside the Kirklees Club to see these lovely models. BTW, what sort of camera do you use?
Peter.
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Some of the best pictures of models I have seen.
Peter
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Hi Bunkerbarge
Really great models, Fantastic to see. Your camera work is superb. Keep them coming.
Regards David
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Thanks for the kind words gents, much apprciated.
Peter up to about a year ago the camera was an Olympus E-10, which I really enjoyed for a few years. One of it's best attributes for this sort of thing was it's ability to flip up it's screen and so allow you to put the camera right on the water level.
Since about a year ago I treat myself to a new Canon 30D with a couple of nice lenses to boot. I figured I might as well make the most of the dolar exchange rate at the moment so I bought it all in the states. The camera is superb and I love it to bits. It has the weight and style of a proffesional camera without all the bells and whistles and the very high resolution so I would say it is a high end amateur camera. I use the big zoom sometimes though and I am surprised at what good pictures it comes out with.
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Moving on to a few more then, next we have a Model Slipway's Puffer kit. It makes into a lovely model and has been put together beautifully by our Vic. A smoke unit gives it a bit of life and the pictures would have you think it is a far bigger model than it actually is.
The next one is a very nice tug model that I'm afraid I can't tell you a great deal about apart from the fact that she is called the Cribben Head. Very nicely made though and very eye catching on the water, it performed smoothly and to scale and looked the part.
The next one is also a tug but I'm not sure what. I think it is a scratch build job and it is actually quite a large model and goes at quite a pace. It doesn't actually look like a TID to me but I can't say exactly what it is. I'm sure there will be some more knowledgeable amongst you and maybe even the owner will see it.
Finally a nicely put together Mountfleet River Queen by Harold. This kit seems to go together very nicely and we have about three that I know of at the club. A great introduction to the hobby and Harold's is a particularly nicely assembled example.
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More great shots Bunkerbarge, that "TID", or whatever it is, certainly has a prototypical bow wave - it really looks the part.
Peter.
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A few more shots for those of you who enjoy looking.
The first two are a couple of shots of ballast trials on a model by our Ian again. I think it is a Deans kit that he bought in a sorry state and has been refurbishing it but I am not 100% sure. It has come a long way since these pictures and now does a comendable scale 80 knots all on it's own!!
Next are a couple of pictures taken on our open day in 2006. The first is a HMS Resolve, which I have always fancied as it is the same scale as my Enigma and the two of them would look good together. I particularly like the two funnels and would like to compare a WW1 tug with a WW2 on the water. The second picture is one of the 'Sail past', an event during the open day when we invite all attending models to participate in a mass gathering on the pond. It always looks superb but takes a bit of organising with the crystals!!
The next two are a couple of one of my own models bought from Ebay. Apparently it started life in the 1930's where it was purchased in a bring and buy sale at a local church in Whitby. It has spent most of it's life stuck in an attic before the previous owner decided to refurbish it and sell it on. It still needs a few things doing to it to get it to where I want it to be and it is not the best sailing model but she does look good when the breeze gets up.
Finally for this set a couple that I snapped of a lovely launch that I saw a few months ago. I can't tell you anything about it and I haven't seen it since but it was certainly a very nice example of this more traditional type of model.
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Great fotos Bunkerbarge - Nice lake too !
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I thought I would put up the last few pictures I currently have of the models at Kirklees before i forget about them.
The first one is one of the nicest models we have in the club. Very simple in it's idea but beautifully executed and built. A lovely little outboard dinghy which has had it's outboard very cleverly modified to get the motor out of the water and it does look the part on the water. I also like the fact that the model comes apart and the whole thing, including the radio, packs away into a carrying box.
Next up the Jacobite Queen. Sory i know very little about this one but it appearred one day and I took a couple of shots of it. I believe it is scratch built but I couldn't say what construction method was used but it is a nice unusual subject very neatly put together.
The next model is a converted plastic kit German Torpedo Boat. For such a small model it performs at quite a pace and seems to last for quite a while as well.
Finally a couple of the fishing boat Netta. Once again I couldn't tell you too much and I haven't seen it since I took the pictures in March but it is a beautifully made model. I actually took quite a few pictures of this one and a couple when edited in a photo software package can end up looking very convincing.
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O0 Very many thanks BB. Thanks for the great photos that you've put up, thanks for taking the time and trouble to show us the way to see other peoples makes. thanks for having the patience to answer all our q? and most of all thanks for giving me the chance to see builds I have only heard of, with your permission I have copied the majority of the photos for future ref; bigH
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Is this how you spend your leave periods? Dashing around the Dales on 2 wheels and then slowing down with model boats.
We used to reckon that "clankies" were the worlds worst for getting the jobs done that "her indoors" had made a list of!
However, the main reason for this post is to commend your local council for the immaculate appearance of the parkland around the boating lake. I wish "our lot" had the same commitment. BY.
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Bryan, 'er indoors is usually with me on the back of the bike. I can't get her up early enough to join me at the pond on a Sunday very often though!!
bigH, many thanks for your kind comments. I very much enjoy taking pictures of the models and I hope the quality is actually improving as I learn a bit more about the camera. I feel honoured that you would want to download them and hopefully I will be posting some more in the future.
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Wonderfull morning yesterday with superb weather to suit both the scale lads as well as the yachts. My last visit until Mid December so a very depressing departure that even my wifes bacon and egg sandwich struggled to lift!!
First up is a shot of a converted Revel Corvette. One of my Ebay purchases which was purely and simply to accompany my U-boat. It looks a lot better on the water than it does close up but it really does look good with the U-boat.
Next, Ian's HMS Kent progresses and looks better every time I see it. The detail is coming along very nicely but she really does make an imposing sight under way.
Another dinky little e-boat. Very tidily and neatly put together and, along with the others I have seen, really shifts across the pond!
The next picture is a yacht I haven't seen before but looking very nice under sail. I particularly like the cabin area and the scale appearance.
Raymonds red sailed yacht has under gone some significant mods and now sports larger sails and a new set of masts. The brass work is all Raymonds scratch building and looks absolutely beautifull. He is in the process of replacing all the other fittings with brass as well. This yacht remains my favourite in the club and is a credit to Raymond and his considerable building skills.
Finally Mick found himself a scratchbuilt tanker recently and is in the process of fitting out the internals and getting the ballast sorted. Very tidily put together and coming together nicely.
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I love the Kent - do you have any more detail photographs, the scale, etc?
Andy
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At the moment no I'm afraid and I'm not going to get another chance until December. I'll get some then though.
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:)Hi Dreadnought Reference the model Kent built to A scale of 1/96. Hull from Deans Marine. Builder on hols at the moment will try to get more info later.
Stan :)
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Something a little bit differrent this time, a more detailed couple of pictures of one model indoors.
This is Stan's Fletcher Class Destroyer made from the original, not the new, Deans 1/96th scale kit. Stan however has added a tremendous amount of detail to this model to get it to the standard you can see here.
A beautiful model that looks just as good on the water but to really appreciate it you should study it close up.
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A few shots of some models on the water, some through the mist and ice and some when it got a bit brighter this morning.
First up are a couple of shots of Harolds Bluebird, finally looking the part after giving him quite a hard time. Harold has persevered though and this morning she looked really good and took quite a bit of catching on the camera.
Next up a couple of shots of an Al Kubar 3 model, looking and performing very nicely on the water. She wasn't out for long before required to perform a recovery.
Now for a really nice new model, Baden's latest fishing boat, the Scorpio. Not only is it a very tidy model with a fully working set of navigation lights but it also has a superbly detailed wheelhouse that includes a working radar screen and an illuminated depth sounder screen. A tribute the the skill and imagination of the builder.
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The second half of this morning offering starts with a shot of a scratch built cargo ship, the Brandon. Very neatly built and looking exellent on the water.
We also saw this morning the first time on the water for another well built Robbe U-47. It is fitted with an Engles 750ml dive tank and performs a static dive very well. It is currently ballasted a bit deep, which will be modified to bring her a bit higher up when on the surface but for a single tank model the trim and performance was very impressive. There is also a lot of detail added to the hull which makes for a much more interesting kit when out of the water.
Another sub out today was Chris's type IX. A very well built scratch model that has been a regular at the pond for a few years now and is a very reliable performer.
The type IX was built at a scale of 1/50th so against the Slipways Envoy model at 1/48th you can get a fair idea of the size of the real vessels as the two shots show.
Finally a couple of shots into the fog, the first one of a very nice TID tug the Harry O, shown earlier in this thread and finally another of my own Slipways Envoy kit, built as the Enigma.
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This mornings meeting brought a couple of new models out that I haven't seen before which is always intersting to see.
First of all a couple of my own U-Boat doing a bit of manoeuvring around one of our land marks. It gives a bit of interest to the picture to see it with something like a rock to balance the model.
Next up two shots of a new model from the same stable that made the Harry O and just as nice a model. This one is a coal barge and has been just as effectively weathered as Harry O and looks absolutely superb. The coal on the deck is very effective and makes for a very realistic model.
Then a couple of shots of a new model from a new member. The Vliestroom buoy handling vessel is fitted with two kort nozzles and performs superbly on the water. She has also been very nicely finished and the crane is an entire model in itself.
Finally a couple of shots of an old hand, Ian's Liverpool pilot boat. A superb scratch built model that has been around for a number of years now but still looks fantastic at sea.
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Yesterday I arrived at the pond nice and early and had the place to myself for a while so I indulged a bit and put my U-Boat and corvette out at the same time for a couple of shots. I promise no more U-Boat pictures, you must be getting fed up of them by now. Anyway first up is a few shots of the occassion with the two models together and a more creative shot against the sun. They do look good together and it erseting that they are both the same scale and are both plastic converstions. Although the U-Boat is my own creation the Corvette is an Ebay purchase and, as with so many things, one day I would like to build one myself.
Next up is a nice neat little model of a cabin cruiser that has ben down for trials a couple of times recently but has only just gained a crew. Obviously Homer and Bart are doing a bit of bonding on the fishing trip but I'm sure it will end in tears.
Finally a very nice model of what I can only describe as a WW1 gunboat as I missed the owner before he left. I think it is a kit but it has been very neatly put together and is all the more interesting for the two funnels in an athwartship configuration.
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I think one of the nicest models out yesterday was Ian's sailing barge. He recond he made it about 15-20 years ago from scratch and I think it's age only goes to make it look all the more ealistic. It now has what they would call in the antiques business an "aged patina", which is far more effective than any weathering attempts would be and the model sailed superbly most of the morning.
Finally for yesterday another of Alan's models, his tug Phoenix. He heavily modified a Mountfleet kit to get the very neat result you can see here but, as this involved making a new superstructure, he has just about built it from scratch anyway. Very nice little model on the water and just goes to emphasise not only what a prolific builder Aaln is but also just how adaptable he is.
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Last Sunday didn't see a great number of boats out mainly as the weather was not very impressive consequently the only brave ones out there were certainly not going to be newly finished boats!
However our Alan did bring his very nearly completed launch which merits a few shots all to itself. It is a scratch built model and that includes the engine that Alan made himself on his Chester lathe and as you can see the whole thing is a lesson in superb woodwork. Alan's hulls are a thing of beauty and this model is no exception. He has also made the fittings himself and the only thing he is now waiting for is a gas control valve to be mounted in the forward wooden box.
I'm looking forward to seeing it on the water for the first time.
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I see "Alan's launch" and Jacobite Queen models to my model plans which were featured in MMI. Very nice too.
Was there any problem with the steam launch stability, apparently when the first model was built it was somewhat tender, and I redrew the body section with more beam and was added to a later issue of MMI.
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Jacobite Queen is a cruise boat on Loch Ness operating from Inverness. She was orginally a ferry on the Tyne, mostly taking workers across to Swan Hunter shipyard.
She was remodelled as seen and is very popular as I can attest.
Just noted comments re stability , (or lack of !) of Alan's launch, electric powered I note. I was mortified to find that my plans were at fault, luckily never happened before on all the lines plans I have done previously.
It does show the problem with drawing a model plan to same proportions as a small boat, especially one so fine lined.
Glad to see Alan has overcome the deficiency and look a lovely craft.
Jim
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nice to hear from the man himself
If your son lives so close to our club perhaps you might pay us a visit and you can then see my MFV built to your plans.
Would like to meet you
Alan
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Hopefully next time down your way
Regards, Jim
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Well back home and back to normal Sunday mornings again. Unfortunately today was not the best as regards weather but nevertheless a few hardy souls braved the drizzle and got thier boats on the water.
First up are a couple of shots of a very nicely built fast gun boat. It is one of the few that I have seen really planing well but unfortunately at the cost of endurance. Different bartery arrangements are being tested though to try to improve the life.
Next up an almost completed TID. Just a bit of detail and some rigging to finish a very well made example with just a touch of rust and weathering to bring it to life.
The third offerring today is a couple of shots of a very tidy example of the trawler Maggie M. This one a more out of the yard standard and sporting a particularly neat and tidy paint job.
Finally there were a few more than normal yachts out as there was going to be a couple of yacht races but unfortunately the extreemly calm conditions made this impracticle. It does give us a chance to see some very nice models though both scrath and kits.
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Great photos there O0
R,
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Whats the size of the TID
Stavros
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I believe it was made from the Lesro kit in which case it is 20" long, which seems about right.
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hi i am the owner of the tid i got the hull & plan from kingston mouldings the size is 35'' long & a beam of 10'' this is my first build
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hi i am the owner of the tid i got the hull & plan from kingston mouldings the size is 35'' long & a beam of 10'' this is my first build
Thanks for clearing that up!!
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Tidy looking Tid I built one with the larger hull, build thread on mayhem
Stavros
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Missed last week due to Harrogate so a couple of weeks seems a long time since I went down to the pond. Lovely morning though, bright and sunny but cold in the shade.
First up this week is a scratch built monitor. I am reliably informed that the inspiration came from the recent article in Model Boats Magazine and the model was made from the photos in the magazine and a certain degree of stand off license! It still looks a very nice model though and stand off or not it is an excellent build with nothing more to go by than a few pictures.
Next up a new launch the Lady Anne. Once again I didn't ask any questions about the build so apologies but it caught my eye because it reminded me of the recent build thread by Bluebird. Lovely model and pretty quick when opened up as well.
Now another tug I hadn't seen before and once again I didn't get any background. I need to take a piece of paper with me in future! Jan is a German Tug and incorporates all the latest in noise generating technology to keep the ducks away. Handles very well though and the figures give it a bit of life.
Finally I got another nice shot of Ian's sailing barge the Kathleen. The reason why I showed her again is A) The sun caught her perfectly and gave me a nice shot and B) because I am looking at making some lifeboats for my steamer and so I am currently paying particular attention to any I see. Not only is the Kathleen a lovely boat in her own right but just look at the detail in her scratch built life boat. The boat is about four inches long to give you an idea of how lovely a job it is.
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Just as a little smile to everyone and to remind you of how easily things can go wrong there is a little story with the attached pictures.
I bought this Joffre off eBay a year or so ago with the intention of tidying it up a bit and using it with my Envoy as she is the same scale and roughly the same period. Anyway the internals were a bit on the loose side and I had trouble getting it to work so it stayed on the shelf until yesterday when I thought I would give it a trial.
I fitted a new reciever, a new speed controller and a new 7.2 Tamiya pack, bought only last weekend at Harrogate. Tried it out and it all worked fine but the motor did seem a bit firece. Stuck it in the bath and she sat a bit low but bang on the water line so took it down to the pond this morning and tried it out. Sure enough the motor was too much and at full throttle she dug in a bit and pushed the bow down more than I would really want, especially with the freeboard not being too great. So a couple of things to do but she looked good and I was pleased that an internal strip out would give me a nice model.
The last five minutes and a couple of kids turn up asking about the boats so I said I would put the tug back in and show then how it worked. I went right across to the other side to the point where I can't see exactly what is happening and started to bring it back when I thought, "She looks a bit low!" A couple of seconds later and she looked even lower!!! A couple of seconds later and up went the stern and down she went!! A hush went over the crowd as everyone looked at the little loose dingy bobbing around in the water, all that was left to show where it had been.
I was more annoyed at the loss of the new speed controller, reciever and battery pack than anything else but the loss of a boat is always dissapointing as well. The lads all suggested I get the club boat out and go for a bit of fishing, which I really thought was a waste of time but I gave in and thought I'd have a go. I paddled around for a half an hour or so fishing with the grappling hook and rope, amid cries and jeers from the bank as to where everyone thought it had gone down. To my amazement I snagged it and brought it up, mostly intact, but with a couple of pieces missing and a few broken bits. Would you believe the propeller was still turning!!
Anyway lessons to be learned:
1) If it looks low in the water, you're probably right, remove some ballast!
2) If the motor is too powerfull, it probably is, slow it down!
3) If the deck coamings look low, they probably are, build them up!
4) If you notice all three at the same time, don't put it in the water!
At least I provided some light relief and entertainment for a half an hour or so and I am now forced to "Tidy Up" the model whether I want to or not. I've given the electrics a wash out with distilled water and they are now drying out so I might be lucky there.
Anyway I'm glad I got a couple of shots of her first, I at least know how to put the mast back together!!
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Do we now call you " Sunkerbarge " ????? ;D ;D ;D
Seriously though, Glad you got it all back , the electrics should be ok, I have had to do the same thing a few times before.
Great talk last Wednesday by the way, most interesting.
Regards Sub.
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Bunkerbarge - I dont think you are quite ready yet to claim TugKenny's claim to fame yet. {-) With Kenny's we have photographs of the sinking and the retrieval {-) {-) {-) {-) :) :) :) :) :)
I was thinking about saying...keep on trying.....but that is a bit nasty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
aye
john e
bluebird
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Join the build them and sink them club at least you were lucky to get it back,mine are in over 100ft of water and I have lost 2 in LLanberis Lake where once sunk you will never seen them again.Everything into the airing cupboard and try again
Stavros
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BB,
Any idea what powers the cruiser as it ties in with another current thread.
Bob
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Bunkerbarge - I dont think you are quite ready yet to claim TugKenny's claim to fame yet. {-) With Kenny's we have photographs of the sinking and the retrieval {-) {-) {-) {-) :) :) :) :) :)
I was thinking about saying...keep on trying.....but that is a bit nasty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
aye
john e
bluebird
There were one or two mobile phones pointed in my direction as I thrashed around in the dingy trying to snag a duck with the grappling hook, I'm sure they will come to light at some point! I wish I had a shot of it going t down though, it did look very realistic!!
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Join the build them and sink them club at least you were lucky to get it back,mine are in over 100ft of water and I have lost 2 in LLanberis Lake where once sunk you will never seen them again.Everything into the airing cupboard and try again
Stavros
I guess if anything goes down there you won't have to worry about whether it is worth getting the dingy out! When you bear in mind the cost and manhours that go into some of our creations though it makes you stop and think.
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There were one or two mobile phones pointed in my direction as I thrashed around
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I'm sure they were calling the Coastguard and Rescue Helicopter ::)
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BB,
Any idea what powers the cruiser as it ties in with another current thread.
Bob
Sorry Bob, I really should ask some questions when I take the pictures. If I see it again I will ask or if anyone else here can answer please feel free to post a reply.
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There were one or two mobile phones pointed in my direction as I thrashed around
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I'm sure they were calling the Coastguard and Rescue Helicopter ::)
That's what I thought, but then I couldn't understand why there was a group huddled around one phone, laughing a lot!
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Could not agree more with you Bunkerbarge one is a Robbie Paula which went down with all hands probably worth around £150 and the other was a Fire boat although only 500mm long wa scrammed full of goodies worth around £450 and as you say The time spent building them,but I am not alone as I know of at least 8 others lying in LLanberis. Lake.
Oh by the way dont all panic as the Mayhem bash at the lake is being held in the lagoons which are only waist ish deep
Stavros
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To my amazement I snagged it and brought it up, mostly intact, but with a couple of pieces missing and a few broken bits. Would you believe the propeller was still turning!!
Well nothing wrong with your work then Bunkerbarge!
Any other indication of what caused the call to Davy Jones’s Locker?
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I really believe as I said in the original that it was a combination of being too low in the water, going too fast, the coamings not being very high and being too far away to see what was happening.
Nothing really dramatic, just me not paying attention to all the signs that were in front of me.
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In that case I don't need a lift to work anytime soon Bunkerbarge! ;)
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Beautiful selection of boats Bunkerbarge and the photography is fantastic, especially the Bluebird with the spray exceptional!! :)
Shame about the boat that went down.
regards
Gary :)
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Bunkerbarge, what can I say? It was me who built the Joffre and sold it to you last year!! :'( It was my first attempt at a model and I thought I had done a reasonable job but am now most embarassed. Joffre was always a bit low in the water as when I ballasted her I forgot to have the battery in. A stupid mistake, but it was my first effort. I never had a problem sailing her at New Brighton but I always kept the speed down to what I considered to be a scale speed for the model. We live and learn don't we. I have since built the Mountfleet "Bangarth" and she looks well but perhaps I should only sail her in shallow water? Pic attached. Anyway, I'm glad you managed to retrieve her and I will hang my head in shame.
The photographs you have published are superb and make me relise that I have a long way to go. Will keep trying though.
John
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Acloser look at the "Bangarth"
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John, You have no reason to hang your head, I should have been paying more attention, I have been doing this for a number of years now!!
Anyway I got her back. I now have a set of instructions from Caldercraft and am compiling an order for the bits that went astray. I might actually use the opportunity to give her a coat of grey because she will look the part alongside the Slipways Envoy Class seeing as they are the same scale. I think I'll take some ballast out though!!
The Bangarth is looking good though and seems to be sitting at the right level on the water!! ::)
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Unlike last week Sunday morning was a superb day and probably one of the biggest groups we have had at the pond for a long time. All sorts of boats were out ranging from the flotilla of yachts to scale, fast electric and converted plastic.
There were not a lot of models that I had not seen before though apart from the ones I have included here. It seems to be a bit of a “Plastic Fantastic” week but it still amazes me the work that goes into getting these little models on the water.
First up are a couple of shots of what started out as a Revell Coaster model. The superstructure has been extensively reworked to produce an armed trawler, complete with figures, and the overall model really does look superb. The detail is amazing and I am reliably informed that there will be more deck clutter added soon.
Next up a nice representation of the old Revell 1/426th scale USS Arizona of Pearl Harbour fame. This is quite an old kit but has been given a whole new perspective by converting it to RC. As with all these models calm water is really a requirement but this one handled the conditions well and I saw the bow under the waves on a number of occasions.
Continuing the plastic theme next is a converted USS Iowa. The owner does not know the origins of the model but it is a nicely made kit with a good level of detail. The interesting thing here is that he used all four original kit props when he converted to RC and he has four servo motors powering the model. It handles surprisingly well with original props and rudders.
The last model is a very nicely built Corvette. I couldn’t find the owner at the time but it looks like it could be the Deans Marine 1/96th scale kit. I base this merely on the fact that it is smaller than the Revell 1/72nd offering so I could be wrong here!!
Finally a shot of the Arizona and the Iowa together.
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Just a little extra post with a few shots that I think are of particular interest. Weathering and added detail and clutter is not to everyones taste but if you are going to do it you have to make sure that you do it well. I think a lot of people are actually put off by seeing models that have been overdone and suffer as a consequence so to redress the balance a bit here are a few shots of a couple of models that have been completed perfectly.
Weathering to me is not about making the model dirty, it is about making the model into a realistic representation in so far as it is a used item and therfore displays all the results of this use. With working craft this can manifest itself in such ways as dirt and rust but more likely and less obviously in the way things are simply worn with use.
The first model is an America Second World War landing craft. I cannot tell you a great deal about it but I think it is scratch built and I will be happy to let Stan add a note about the models construction. My fascination is in the detail and the weathering, which I could enjoy looking at for a very long time. This is where the serious hours can go when you think you have actually finished the model.
The second model is also Stans and is his American crabber. Once again very sympathetic use of weathering techniques and an understanding of how a working boat operated has produced a level of detail that you can simply enjoy studying.
Don't be put off by the over weathered models you may have come across. Have a go one day, the results are very satisfying.
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Hi BB!
That crabber is fabulous! The DUKW(?) doesn't quite 'grab' me in the same way - excellent though it also is...
With the coaster, Arizona and Iowa, you just had to didn't you? You knew I was going through a 'plastic magic' phase, and still you posted them!
Iowa looks a bit high in the water, but nonetheless excellent job on the conversion.
Congrats to all the owners/modellers on their wonderful creations :)
Says me casting one eye over at my Musashi and Tirpitz and PBR and PT-109 and PT-596 and 1/72 Vosper still to be researched and built...
-Rob
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Glad you like them Rob. I've also got an old Airfix RAF Rescue launch as well as an Airfix Vosper waiting in my retirement fund!! One day! I actually got them to sail with the Revel U-boat as they are all the same 1/72nd scale.
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Bunkerbarge,
Is there really a colour scheme that you cannot use on a Corvette, I have seen dozens
of them and all I have seen have been different.............
Roy
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Roy, I certainly do not profess to be an expert on the subject and I am sure there are many on here better qualified than me to answer but from what I know about corvette colour schemes they are supposed to conform to standard schemes as laid down by the admiralty, the most common being the Western Approaches Scheme.
As usual with wartime colour schemes there was almost certainly a degree of personal interpretation and, as with armour and aircraft, a lot of this would be driven by nothing more technical than availability of paint!
However here is a brief quote from the "Anatomy of the Ship, The Flower Class Corvette Agassiz" by John McKay and John Harland:
A very comprehensive discussion of various camouflage schemes used in corvettes, and tips on painting a model, are to be found in the Lynch book listed in the sources. Preston and Raven's Flower Class Corvettes includes colour examples of the patterns used while Hodges Royal NavyWarship Camouflage 1939-1945 explains the rational behind these schemes.
I would also suggest that you have a good look through this forum:
http://theflowerclasscorvetteforums.yuku.com/btheflowerclasscorvetteforums
where you will find a wealth of information on the subject as well as a large number of very well informed members.
I think at the end of the day a number of modellers interpret schemes in thier own way driven partly by thier own modelling skills and access to accurate information so there may be a degree of variation introduced there as well.
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Having had a quick chat with Stan I can now give a bit more information about his DUKW as shown above.
The model is scratch built from a collection of photographs without the use of plans and all aspects of the model is Stans own interpretation of the available pictures. I think this has to be one of the most difficult ways of making a model and, as you can see from the result, the finished model is quite stunning.
His crabber is a modified American kit in 1/12th scale. It includes all sorts of noise generating electronics and most of the detail has been obtained from such sources as Tamiya 1/12th scale racing team pit crews and dolls house accessories.
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Well back home again and back to adding some new pictures to the Hall of Fame thread.
Firstly last weeks pictures and the first model is a very tidy trawler the Jessica Ben.
Next up a very tidy tug that I hadn't seen on the water before, the Foxy.
A bit of a tug day as the next one is the scratch built pusher which has an amazingly realistic sound system that follows the engine revs perfectly. It turned out however to be the gearbox making the noise! Great model though, very manoeuvrable and very nice weathering.
Next model is another nicely put together corvette conversion, this one the USS Saucy, with yet another paint scheme closely followed by a recently completed Dido class cruiser.
Then just to prove there were some very nice yachts on the water, although the wind was very poor and so they didn't enjoy the best of conditions.
Finally a shot of a couple, including a variant on the Aziz, alongside at the pond.
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Nice models, just one question, why is PG 65 USS Saucy flying the Union Jack from her stern ?
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Now a bit more up to date and today's crop of new models seen this morning in the perfect summer conditions.
The first couple of shots are of HMS Bristol the only type 82 Destroyer in the Royal Navy beautifully put together, the radar matress alone is a work of art.
Next are two shots of a nicely finished and weathered HMCS Sackville, looking good in another Atlantic camoflage paint job.
Back to tugs and a lovely steam tug the Mary Tavy, once again a nice bit of careful weathering and some very nicely done woodwork around the accomodation.
Next boat for anyone who has seen the movie "A Perfect Storm" this is the starring boat, the Andrea Gail. The interesting aspect of this model is that, being a line trawler, the line booms both drop to a horizontal fishing position or can be retracted into a stowed position. Very effective and a very smooth operation.
Next model a recently finished Caldercraft "Sir Kay". Slightly smaller at 1/48th but the same high level of detail as found in larger kits.
Finally a lot of engineering for your money is the Thunder Tiger sub. This one was a kit version and even included an on board camera with remote monitor but the most impressive part is the quality of the engineering you get for a relatively small outlay. All the fastenings are stainless steel and all the control rods exit through proper adjustable glands. The static dive function is achieved by a peristaltic pump filling a cylinder making for a fully functioning and very manoeuverable sub.
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Wonderful photos Bunkerbarge showing some excellent models!
Simon :o
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O0 O0 O0 Thanks BB.
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Glad you carried on with this thread BB. Might not of seen these models otherwise and what a wonderful collection they are. Please keep them coming as they also give me some good ideas for any future builds. Thank you.
Ron.
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Thanks for the encouragement gents, I will try to keep this going when I am at home and I must admit when I first visit the pond after three months away it is always surprising how many new models there are out there as well as those brought by new members.
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Well yesterday I think the weather forecast put people off as there wasn't a lot of members down at the pond.
What there was though was certainly interesting and the first model is a Cammett hull model of HMS Swiftsure. Quite a size but looking superb on the water and beautifully made.
Next up is a developing model of the last incarnation of HMCS Sackville, when she was a civilian research ship. The additional aft superstructure were apparently laboratories for use when she worked for the Canadian Department of Marine and Fisheries. The modeller has already converted the Revell model to a Sackville as commissioned, a Sackville as she operated during the war and now a Sackville in her post war guise.
Another warship on show was HMS Beaver, made from an old Sirmar hull and fittings, aparently originally purchased in about 1987! Another beautifully made model though and superb on the pond.
Next picture is one of my own developements, a truckable workboat. I purchased this recently from a member here, Workboat, and have since tidied up the internals and fitted a 2.4 reciever as well as remounting the motors so she was out for a trial yesterday. Manoeuvrability was amazing with it's two independant shafts and six rudders, and it certainly draws a lot of comment.
Finally a couple of shots of Branaren, very nicely built and on this thread some time ago but not with the long lens. Nice modelling and a measured weathering technique looks very effective.
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Great pictures Bb! What camera do you use?
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Martin, I have a Canon 30D but shots like these are taken with a Canon 300mm zoom lens with image stabilisation. A stunning lens that I could only afford with such a bad exchange rate to the dollar for being paid but brilliant for buying stuff over there!!
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Hi bunkerbarge is there any chance of some internal shots of the tow boat now you have tidied it up thanks Dave
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Hi Dave, the two shots show firstly the base of the boat with a new mounting arrangement for the motors. Unfortunately on it's first outing the hull leaked and the wooden runners that the motor holding springs were fastened to were not held with a waterproof glue and they all came adrift. Luckily not while underway.
I fitted two aluminium runners, made from a channel, which I encased in poured resin to ensure they remained in place and held the springs with cable ties so that I could adjust the spring tension. The motors sit in the curved shape made by the poured resin but were protected by cling film, enabling them to be removed.
I rearranged the electrics a bit and located the reciever power pack below the shelf, fitted the switch to the shelf, fitted the two part 2.4 reciever to the shelf, removed the BEC links from the speed controllers, twisted and tidied up the main cables and used a connector block to make an easy connection to the four motor leads.
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Well what a fantastic day at the pond we had today. Unfortunately not a breath of wind so a bit of a waste of time taking a yacht so mine sat on the bank all morning but perfect for the scale lads. The sun was even quite warm all morning and it was amazing to think we are half way through October.
Anyway the first model is the first time I have seen this new build which is a stunning model of the Lifeboat Alice Upjohn from I believe a Metcalf mouldings hull. Absolutely perfect model and beautifull on the water. The pictures don't do her justice, you need to study this one closely.
Tugs were well represented with some of my favourits having a play for most of the morning, pulling and pushing each other around and looking very good in the process. All lovely models and I think the Harry O remains one of my favourites of all time.
We then have a couple of shots of a new model undergoing trials and that is a scratch built wooden launch. This one is a Plank on Frame construction and is motor powered, althoug currently the motor is a bit fierce so a water skier could be pulled behind it!! The motor is only temporary though but, as always the woodwork is beautiful in it's own right and looks superb when the sun catches it.
Next a couple of grey funnel models and I confess to not knowing a great deal about these other than they look scratch built but could be on a bought hull or they could be a scratch hull as well. The Fawn is the same class as the Bulldog, as per many models seen around from Deans but this is a much bigger scale and has quit a bit more presence on the water. A very neat model both inside and out. The other one is the Ark Royal, once again I'm not sure of it's construction but it does look scratch built and again very tidy inside and outside. Even a few nicely put together Swordfish.
Finally this model is scratch and is a model of a vessel that was until a couple of years ago moored in Whitby. It was converted from an old trawler and has had sails fitted to be used as a tourist vessel but it's current wherabouts isn't known. This model does the original justice though and looks beautifull under way. As an added attraction when there is so little wind, as today, it still has the original fishing boat prop available which is why this was the only sail on the pond all morning!
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If me not mistaken you went to see Bogstandard and I would expect evreything to work on that trawler anyway simpply because his workmanship is second to none!
Stavros
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Well done BB your photograhy skills make these boats look real and admiration to the people who make these craft
mark
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Thanks Mark, it never fails to amaze me just what work goes into getting some of these models on the water.
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Well unfortunately I had to remove a couple of pictures from yesterday's post so I thought I'd go through the other pictures I took yesterday and stick up a couple of alternatives.
Firstly there was a very nicely put together Joffre, which looked quite at home amongst the other steam tug examples. It also looks a lot healthier than my own example which still needs recovering from the damage done during the sinking!! Mine might just be reincarneted as a RN example!
Next is a beautiful model of the Pilot boat Lorraine and once again I have to confess to knowing nothing about this particular model.... yet! It did look lovely though and a bit of a different subject for a change.
Another unusual subject was this little diesel tug the Atlantic. Very much an American flavour about it and a very neat and tidy build.
Next everyone knows the Slipway Aziz, with this one being built as the Arif. A very interesting collection of deck cargo made this model particularly eye catching and full of detail.
Lastly I think this is a scratch build Britannia at quite a small scale, nevertheless it did go very well and cut through the water beautifully.
So yesterday was quite a good day for new models and with perfect scale sailing weather it brought out an interesting selection.
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amazing pictures bunk, keep 'em coming please
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Excellent pictures BB.
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I'll be looking forward to more excellent pictures. I always wanted to see a pond boat like on page 1.
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Looking forward to more pics. can you take some of my missus without the weathering
wd bb
maek
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First up this week is a very interesting model. A new member to the club brings his two young sons down to the pond with him and he has made two models of the same ship but then painted them differently. Reminds me of my childhood when I always had to make sure I got the same as my brother. Great models though, both scratch built and really heartwarming to see someone trying to get his sons into the hobby and encouraging them like this.
Next a very nice HMS Lion. If I remember correctly it is a Fleetscale hull which makes into a very andsome model, which handles very well on the water.
Then a couple of a lovely scratch built yacht. There was a yacht race on this week so a lot of yachts down and luckily, for about the first time this year, there was a reasonable breeze for them.
Next model is a particularly old model by our Stan of an aircraft repair barge. Scratch built in balsa at 1/72nd scale to a free Glynn Guest plan in about 1988 so it has stood the test of time. Propelled by a simple 4.8 v pack and made of balsa it still looks superb and makes for a very different and interesting model.
Finally just a couple of shots of the yacht race. I was a bit stuck really with using a long lens to get them all in nicely but it was a very dull day with very little light so not the most clear of pictures.
Back to the normal lens again next week I think.
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Lovely to see another pic of boat (yacht) that someone has spent many hours to build and not painted over. NO OFFENSE WHATEVER to the people who build scratchbuild boats,i think you are craftsmen,but it is so lovely to see the wood and the work that has gone into the build and what you guys/girls can build.
wish i was like you
mark
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I completely agree Mark, there is nothing nicer than a varnished planked hull.
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Lovely models of the 2 mallards and the Canada goose too. O0
Peter.
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Probably about the only downside of the location is the flock of ducks and geese. I would estimate there must be somewhere in the region of 40-50 geese now and when they all come in to land together it makes for interesting navigating and we occasionally get a damaged boat.
I keep threatening to roast one as I'm sure the council haven't a clue exactly how many there are!!
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Sorry to tell you this BB but Canada geese just don't taste very nice. :-X :-X
Thats why you see so many about.
Colin H.
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Damn. I'd better turn the oven off
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Dog food and feather pillows :-))
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A couple of interesting new models at the pond this morning. First up for all the puffer fans is a very nice example of the Highlander kit. Very neatly put together and sporting smoke generators and sound systems this one really looked impressive on the water and seemed to be pottering around for quite a while today.
Next one is a superb model by our very own sub expert who has not only done some very impressive kit bashing on a Robbe U-47 and a Robbe type XI but this one, HMS Vanguard was built from scratch in fibreglass from the modellers own plugs that he built from plans. The model is in 1/96th scale, has a one off propulsor tailor made for the model and incorporates a home made scratch built dive module. Brilliant model.
Finally another kit out of the box and a lovely example of the paddle steamer Glasgow. Handles extreemly well on the water and looks the business with a smoke generator. All she is missing is someone at the wheel but, as you never seem to be able to find anyone on the bridge, I guess it is pretty realistic!!
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Next model is a particularly old model by our Stan of an aircraft repair barge. Scratch built in balsa at 1/72nd scale to a free Glynn Guest plan in about 1988 so it has stood the test of time. Propelled by a simple 4.8 v pack and made of balsa it still looks superb and makes for a very different and interesting model.
Does anyone know any more about this model or the prototype ? Which issue was it in ?
Saw it, showed my Dad and he fancies having a got at it - so we need more information ! I suppose we could work it out from the photo, that Airfix crane is a good guide to size, but the plan would be handy.
Thanks
Phil
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Phil, I could call the man himself, which I will do this evening, but he visits here regularly anyway so I'm sure he can give you all the information you need to put one of these together.
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I fancy one of those too. It could be great fun to build and sail... :-)) :-))
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Phil, I could call the man himself, which I will do this evening, but he visits here regularly anyway so I'm sure he can give you all the information you need to put one of these together.
I'd also really like to hear of any information about that lovely little barge. If anyone gets hold of any :)
Alex
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The Barge is a YSD Seaplane Wrecking Derek. Stan has sent me the plan (thanks Stan :-))) and after a bit of digging I found this page with details:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/ysd.htm
There are some excellent photos here: http://www.navsource.org/archives/14/58idx.htm
including this one:
(http://www.navsource.org/archives/14/14584001.jpg)
Next, the building....
Phil
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Well I am getting excited now. Stan has sent me a plan for that beautiful barge.....Hope the post is quick!!!! :-)) :-))
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Make a build thread once you start Footski,keep us mere beginners,learn more
Mark
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Make a build thread once you start Footski,keep us mere beginners,learn more
Mark
[/quotThe plan has arrived this morning. Many thanks to Stan. Now for some research before the build starts..
Barry
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Well back home two weeks but didn't get much chance to get any pictures. The first weekend the pond was covered in ice so no-one got on the water apart from a hovercraft that lost it's top so the recovery provided some entertainment and last Sunday I had so much stuff to sort out I didn't get around to taking any pictures.
So apologies for the indulgence but the only ones I did take were of my Envoy Class in conjunction with my newly aquired Resolve. I always wanted to see these two on the water together as they were around at the same time during the second world war and they are both in 1/48th scale. One day I'm going to have a serious go at carefull weathering of them both but in the meantime I do need to paint the insides of the Resolve's funnels black!
One thing that was really impressive was that they spent all morning out on the pond together and I simply switched my Spektrum from one to the other to control them both.
Next week I'll take some pictures of the other models!
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Bunkerbarge,
Two beautiful models there. They really look the part together on the water..
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Thanks Footski, I'm very pleased with them both but, yet again, surprised at just how much easier it is to manoeuvre a single screw vessel in comparrison with an equivilent sized twin screw, independently controlled model.
I'm looking forward to getting a bit of detail and weathering on them both.
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Moving a twin screw around with one of ACtion's P94 is very easy. I was amazed just how much more manouverable the twin screw is compared to my single..
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Well last Sunday finally gave us a much better spot of weather and for the first time in a few weeks we had no ice on the pond. Quite a good crowd turned 0ut and a few new models on the water so well worth taking a few shots.
First up are three shots of a new pusher tug. This has been scratch built from plans that have been basically created as the model was progressing so to end up with such a well proportioned model which also proved to be very manoeuvrable on the water is quite an achievement. Very typical of American inland pusher tugs and a very tidy model.
Next a couple of shots of one I haven't seen before and I didn't get a chance to speak to the owner, but it looks like a kit of a small fishing vessel. it pottered around in a very scale like fashion and really looked the part. Very tidy model and very nicely finished.
The next three shots are of a converted Robbe U-47. This is now a static diving model and it dives beautifully, maintaining a perfect level trim as it slowly goes below the surface. The paint job has now also progressed since the last time I saw it and it is looking particularly realistic with just the right amount of weathering.
The next couple are of an RAF tender that I haven't seen before although I do think it has been around for a while. It is a very nicely put together scratch built model from plans, not an Aerokits model as I first thought, and while it is fitted with three shafts it is only using the centre one at the moment. It certainly doesn't need the others for performance as it proved to be quite nippy anyway and planed very realistically across the pond.
Lastly two from a new member who brought along his double ended ship. He didn't keep it out for more than a couple of minutes as it was pretty fresh and was heeling over a bit too much for comfort so was lucky to catch it at all. Probably a wise move.
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Also last Sunday we had Stan's Gambia Bay on the pond side, which is now getting very close to completion. Just a few more detailed bits to add and then some careful weathering and that is about it.
We were blessed with a decent spot of sunshine amongst the clouds and wind so I was lucky to be able to get some decent pictures of it looking it's best. The detail on this model is stunning and it is one of those things that you can simply enjoy looking at for a very long time. All credit to Stan for putting this together and creating a model of a standard that most of us can only aspire to.
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Well yesterday proved to be a beautiful day so a good opportunity for a few snaps. I was lucky enough to have a friend with me who happens to be a photographer so he took a few pictures while I enjoyed playing with the models.
Nothing new amongst these snaps I'm afraid, apart from the quality of the photography that is, but I though you might enjoy the pictures anyway.
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Some beautiful models and the Photographer certainly knows his business. thanks for sharing them with us..
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I totally agree with you there Footski, great photos :-)) My problem is when sailing my models do I give the camera to my wife and get blurry shots of my boats or as she sometimes takes photos of 'lovely looking ducks' ! Or hand her the transmitter and I photograph a wrecked model boat ??? {-) {-)
Funnily enough, I know exactly what you mean!!!!
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Hiya,
regarding the YSD Seaplane Wrecking Derek, check out the Peter O'Toole film Murphy's War there is one in that, a really good film.
Keith.
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Well a beautiful day last Sunday so a good turn out. Isn't that always the case when you need to be home early for guests arriving!!
Anyway first up a couple of shots of my Envoy Class again. The sun just caught it right and I was able to get the smoke hanging over it quite realistically. Probably my favourite model at the moment as it seems to be very reliable, easy to handle and steer and looks very realistic on the water.
Next up an Amsterdam Tug. I did make a point of asking the owner the kit manufacturer but all I can remember is that is is made by an Italian company. I guess I need to have note paper with me!! Lovely model of quite an age but handles beautifully and even working water cannons with quite a range. I think it's a male thing.
Next up setting out a course was never this easy!! All he had to do in the past was row half a dozen strokes and drop a weighted buoy but now he even gets dragged to the right spot!! Great fun though and surprising just how fast the tug would pull the dinghy. Probably something to do with the fact that it is fitted with two huge industrial compressor 12 v motors!!
Then a couple of shots of our annual Endurance Race. This consists of simply sailinga round set bouys for an hour and the model with the most circuits under it's belt wins. Unfortunately I couldn't stay to the end, otherwise the Envoy might just have been joining in, so I don't know who won. Any Kirklees members with a result?
Finally just to prove that we are an open and friendly club we allow anyone to take part!! You may notice that I remain completely unable to get a shot of this man with his mouth closed.
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I think one of the best parts of this time of year is the fact that all those winter projects start to appear at the pond as the proud owners of a newly built model gingerly unwrap it and put it on the open water for the first time.
This model of the Moorcock first appeared at a club night a few months ago when it was no more than a hull under construction and I'm glad I saw it then because I was able to appreciate what a beautiful hull it is. It is all scratch built with the hull being diagonally planked before being covered internally with tissue and resin. The external surfaces have had plate and rivet detail added by using plates made from litho plate and the rivet detail added from the inside by making up a pounce wheel from a clock gear with half the teeth removed. The internal planking and the external plate detail look superb and it really was a pleasure to see it go on the water for the first time for a bit of trimming and a maiden voyage.
Another shot worthy of inclusion was one I caught of a converted Revel Corvette. I guess like many clubs we have quite a number of these but it is always interesting to see different interpretation of the same model. One day we should try to get them all together and see just how many we do have.
The tug lads also now seem to be breeding barges and each week another one appears being pulled by one of the many steam tugs on hand. It does take the model to a new level having something to pull around and this one looked really good behind the TID. I am reliably informed that more are to follow but my suggestion of a bunkerbarge did not seem to be met with much enthusiasm!!
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hi Richard
sorry i was daydreaming on sunday i think we need a bunkerbarge to tow i will start the build next week
kind regards jason
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Have a look at this for a few ideas Jason:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6547.msg64542#new
I can put them plus a few more on a CD if you want them, just let me know.
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hi Richard
I would be most great full for a CD of some barges i made a plug to make fibre glass barge hulls last year so i will get it back out of the back of the shed & get to work not a bad size at 30 inch's by 8inch's
kind regards Jason
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Well Sunday proved to be a superb day and a good number turned up for a very pleasant mornings sailing in the sun.
The first four pictures are of a German Schnell-boat model that I've not seen before but I was informed by the owner that it is a semi kit with a fibre glass hull and a mainly plasticard superstructure. Looking at the figures I would guess the scale to be around 1/35th and there is an excellent level of detail in the model, especially the crew. The model has three working props and goes pretty well across the water when opened up.
Next we had quite a collection of tugs and barges, with all tows being regularly swopped around during the morning. The final configuration with all three barges being pushed by Maximus looked very realistic and the tow worked very smoothly with manoeuvrability surprisingly good. Harry 'O' also made up a nice combination with the utility barge, which is equally well weathered and looks superb with the tug.
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Absolutely brilliant as usual. I do enjoy our photos... :-))
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Thanks for the comment Footski, I do spend quite a bit of time laid on the path on a Sunday morning so it's nice to know it's appreciated!
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I agree with Footski,superb boats,lots of detail and brilliant pics
Mark
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Well a gentle start to this leave with just a couple of shots of boats that have come together while I've been at work.
First up is Maximus, which has undergone a transformation by having a new top built. The boat can be fitted with either top and so can sail as good old Maximus or now as Maximus II with it's elevated cab to enable it to look over long barges. As always the Maximus II top is scratch built and looks superb on the hull. The barge is also new and is, of course, a bunkerbarge! Great looking tow and looks absolutely perfect being pushed around by Maximus II.
Next model is another American style pusher also of scratch built origins. All these models just go to show what exellent results can be obtained from imaginatively using household items and the minimum of purchased materials. All these models have cost very little to put on the water and are a credit to the imagination and creativity of the builders. Nokandu looks perfect pushing any of the barges around the pond.
As there was a sailing event going on it was an opportunity for a couple of shots of the sailing models as can be seen in the last two. Unfortunately there was very little wind so not the most exciting of sail races!
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With my well tuned eye, that looks like a champagne cork on the bow of the yacht !
Roger in France
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It certainly is, saves the paintwork when the racing turns get a bit intense!!
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Hi All,
Being fairly new to modelling I am left wondering how you get that wonderful rust effect around ships anchors? The photo of the grey funnel line was perfect!
Warren1 Cornwall.
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Hi Warren, rust effects have been discussed many times on here and there are many different views on the subject so I would suggest that you put "Rust" into the search box on the main page and have a look through some of the threads that you find.
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It was a brave group of die hard modellers yesterday who went out there in far from ideal conditions to enjoy a couple of hours on the water. The rain varied between light and heavy with only a couple of patches when it cleared up so it was certainly a time to have a well protected and secure model out there.
During one of the sunnier spells there were a few boats braving the conditions so it was worth getting the camera out and grabbing a couple of shots.
The first ones are of another example of a Slipways 1/72nd puffer. This makes up into a superb little model which at 1/72nd is only 325mm long. It does need calm water though but then attracts a lot of attention and it doesn't need a lot or room in the car!
Next up is a couple of shots of the Winston Churchill an Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyer. A superb model by our very own Roger and a pleasure to see it on the water.
Finally a number of shots of two launches both of which look excellent on the water and plane beautifully at speed. I can say the rescue launch is an old model scratch built on a wooden hull but I don't know enough about the fire boat. I'm sure though tugboatben, the builder, will be able to enlighten us a bit on the model.
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This week a whole different story weatherwise. A beautiful morning at the pond with a big turnout of members and boats on the water. There really is nothing better than relaxing on the wall while you watch your model gently going through it's paces on the water. Wonderful.
Anyway this morning first up was a model that we have seen here before in the guise of a civilian version of the Amsterdam tug. This time after an extensive refit she has returned as a Dutch naval version. Still a lovely model but now that bit more unusual for being a naval version.
Next is a couple of shots of my own Graupner Krabbenkutter as built by our very own Bogstandard. Still performing perfectly and still drawing admiring comments and glances, whether it be discussions on the sound system or the extreemly comprehensive lighting set up. All credit to the builder for putting together such a superb model.
Next quite an old scratch built model of the Waverley. This particular model is unusual in so far as it is constructed on a metal hull with the framing is brass and the hull plating in aluminium plate. The rest of the model is then built in wood in a traditional fashion on this hull. Lovely model and a real pleasure to see her manoeuvring around on the water.
The next model to catch my attention is this nice little fishing boat. It is a Thunder Tiger RTR model bought off ebay for £50.00, which has then been cleaned up and slightly and tastefully weathered. This is due to be a present for a youngster to introduce him to the pleasures of model boating and just goes to show what can be made from these models which modellers tend not to look twice at. I know if I was the youngster recieving this boat I would be over the moon with it.
Finally another of our Stan's scratch built models. This one is a helicopter repair barge and was built based on an original Glynn Guest plan. The scale is 1/35th so the Huey helicopter and a lot of the figures and tools were readily available as plastic kits readily available from the model shop. The result is a stunning and extreemly individual model that is extreemly eye catching on the pond. It just goes to show what can be made from a basic simple plan and a bit of imagination.
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Great action shots or the RTTL and RAF Tender BB!
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5657.0;attach=70307;image)
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5657.0;attach=70306;image)
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Finally a couple of detail shots of the workshop areas of the helicopter repair barge and a snap of the man himself. I did promise not to make any derogatory comments of the picture but then realised the picture probably speaks for itself anyway!!
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Stan, really is an artist....magnificent.. :-)) :-))
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Thanks Footski, it's all in the attention to detail and Stan does this superbly.
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Lovely morning at the pond today with a nice spot of sunshine and a good breeze for the yachts. Strangely enough though there were more warships than anything else and the first couple of pictures are of the first time on the water for a new model of an inshore torpedo launcher. This is a scratch built model which has been put together in 1/64th ply over a beautiful frame to create the amazing hull shape with a characteristic step about half way along the length. Unfortuately, as with many sea trials the operation of the steering servo proved to be not very efective so it was brought out for modifications quite quickly. It's going to be a superb model though when it gets a chance to perform!
Next up a model of HMS Kent that was purchased in a pretty sorry state some time ago and over the months has been transferred into this superb example. Amazing levels of detail in the deck equipment and many ships boats.
Next another very well built example of the Revel Corvette, modified for RC. A very nicely painted splinter camoflage scheme makes this an exceptional model which looks the part at sea.
Then a few shots of my own current project. Some of you may remember the Joffre tug, posted on this thread here:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5657.25
Well the model has been undergoing a bit of a transformation recently and it was time to test her out on the water. I removed a substantial amount of the ballast, well what I could get out, installed new speed controller, a 2.4 reciever, a new rudder servo, 7.2v 3200 mah battery, a stern tube lubricating tube and repaired the damage to the masts. I made a new stern grating to replace the lost one and have ordered a set of quaycraft boats to replace the originals and the missing lifeboat. Then she got a coat of grey on the superstructure and a repainted hull with grey hull upper and a black boot topping with a red primer lower hull. I still have a few things to add like some new RN figures, anchors and the boats when they arrive and I'm going to try out some weathering ideas on it but I wanted to see how she performed so far. The biggest difference is that she now sits at the normal water line with the 3200 mah battery and the ballast removed, which is a big improvement. I've also adjusted the speed controller channel range to slow her down a bit and I will be ensuring the anchors are completely sealed when they are fitted in the hull. There should be a lot less chance of her sinking again. I also wanted to see what she looked like alongside my Envoy class of the same scale and I was really pleased with them both together.
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Another decent spot of weather yesterday so a good turnout at the pond and an opportunity to get a couple of shots of two new models.
First one was the second outing for the torpedo boat, which has since had it's rudder servo repositioned and now it works well. It is powered by a 7.2 Tamiya pack, which provides all the ballast as well as the power and the hull performs beautifully. Unfortunately I didn't get a good shot of it on the plane because it was going so fast but I'll keep trying. In the meantime it was nice to be able to get a couple of shots of it as it was put through it's paces and to see how it handled. This model has been completely scratch built on a balsa frame with 1/64th ply to give a beautiful shape, completely rounded hull. In fact the builder's wife calls it his submarine!! Anyway a great second outing and really pleasing to see it working well.
Next up is the first time on the water for this new model of a Scarborough Cobble. The bare hull was built by a commercial builder in exactly the same way as a real cobble is built and then the owner built the remains of the model in this hull. The result is a beautiful model built in exactly the same way as the real ones have been put together for many years and will remain as a testament to these vessels. The build is stunning and has been done with an amazing attention to detail with all the installation put together perfectly neatly. The paint finish is superb and I didn't realise when I first saw it that it was the bare hull we had all admired only a few months ago. It performed as well as it looks and I'm sure it will continue to draw admiring glances for a long time to come.
Finally my own Joffre conversion has progressed a bit this week with just the boats and some figures to add with a bit of finishing detail. I particularly wanted to try out some combinations of weathering techniques and so far I am very pleased with the results. After the whole model was painted grey, Halfords primer on the hull and Humbrol enamel brushed onto the superstructure, I applied a wash made up of oil paints burnt sienna and raw umber with small amounts of red, green and blue added to give a very dark and dirty looking brown. This gave just the cover I was after and stained the matt finish nicely as well as laying in all the shadows and detail. The main downside of this medium is the fact that it takes a couple of days to dry but the resultant effect is very realistic and even generates subtle and gentle streaks as the wash flows down the vertical surfaces. After this I made up another wash of a rusty brown colour and then started to apply that to the areas where rust would be most ikely to form such as around machinery and where sea water would be regularly flowing such as around the wash ports. This was quite a thin wash so many layers needed building up over a period of a few days. The result is not just a gentle staining of surfaces as well as a realistic colouring around areas such as the wash points. Next came an air brushing of the soot stains on the funnel top and the mast head and basicaly where it is at for now. The rigging has been progressed with working bottle screws and pulleys and two racks of belaying pins added for the signal flag lanyards. Not much left to do now and a lot of techniques learned whch I will be using as I progress the Ben Ain.
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I know a lot of you will be familiar with Stan's Gambier bay escort carrier and enjoyed looking at it whenever it has been on display at shows around the North but today he announced that it was going to take a bit more of a back seat and stay at home more. It does incorporate a tremendous amount of detail and it is always a bit of a concern when it is on show as it would be so easy to damage it.
Anyway he set it up with all her aircraft and I got a couple of nice shots in the beautiful morning sun we enjoyed at the pond side today so for the benefit of those who have not been able to see this amazing model in the flesh, here she is in all her glory.
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Looking at the last shots makes you realise it's been a while since I last added anything to this thread, however today definately merits a mention.
Turning up at the pond this morning I was greeted by thick smooth ice all over the car park, pathways, grass and, of course the water itself. I've never seen it quite so thick and quite so extensive with not even a small patch available to justify taking the models with me. Still it was the last Sunday before Christmas and traditionally we always have a mince pies and daft hat day and who's going to miss out on that?
Those that had taken a boat put them on the "water", but of course they needed to be on thier stands to stay upright!! Anyway at least we could say we put the boats out. I steamed up my Borkum simply because I could and it gave us something to watch for a while. The sub zero temperatures did prove to be a bit of a challenge to get the gas to evaporate but after a few attempts and a bit of warmth finally filtering through to the gas tank it was soon up to steam and running the little Puffin engine. Loads of visible steam thanks to the temperature so a bit of a shame I couldn't get it on the water to see it at it's best!
The only part of the club enjoying the conditions were the hovercraft lads who even had perfectly dry ice to ensure an interesting steering experience! I actually had a go and realised just how challenging it is to get them to go in a straight line, and I thought yachts were tricky.
Anyway a great morning with a great bunch of guys, all of which crazy enough to stand on the side of the pond on a freezing Sunday morning simply for the purposes of eating mince pies, pork pies and a slice of stollen, and enjoying each others company. You can't want for much more really can you?
By the way as it's Christmas I promised I wouldn't say anything derogatory about Stan so I'll not mention the fact that he never stops talking or anything like that. If you didn't know him he's the third from the left with the strange hunchback stance, the thumb up his nose, thinning hair and the slight paunch.
Merry Christmas every one.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8GNYsR4cpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8GNYsR4cpg)
hovercraffts on ice at kirklees model boatclub
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Excellent video, thanks for sharing it with the forum Ben
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Hi Ben.
Thx for the taking the Vid,
Mine is the big Griffon.
I didn't know one was taken thanks nice surprise, great to watch it she was only on a quater lift throttle and very little thrust throttle, I darn't give it full it would have probably taken off !, shame the snow came otherwise would have been there for ages .
thx and well done.
Ps any chance of you sending me the clip so I can add it to the archives, send me a pm if you can thx.
Regards Sub.
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Bunkerbarge
Thanks for posting the pics their Gt :-)
Sub
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Glad to see a little cold weather and a lot of ice wont stop the hardy boater
Well done chaps
Right back to my warm workshop ;)
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more pictures
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well the pond was frozen again this morning so the hovercraft were out while i was warming up again afer a a play with the twin prop Alan was operating his model on the ice and snow when all of a sudden a Dog ran onto the ice and started to chase it about this was after it had been running up and down the path barking at it the video is too big to upload here so i have put it on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9rCIeMlV50
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Video wouldn't work for me. {:-{
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Nor me
Ned
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Hi Guys. Just opened u tube with no problems. Hope you can see this dog chasing the hovercraft.
Stan
Kirklees Model Boat Club :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Worked for me.
Happy New Year to all.
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great video tim it worked for me
jason
kirklees model boat club :}
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just viewed it ok on my mobile phone too
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pictures of HOVER TIM big hover craft from this morning
jason
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some more pictures of tims hover craft
jason
kirklees model boat club :}
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An absolutely superb post from beginning to end BB, one of the best I've seen on here. Congratulations on some beautiful pictures, and my congratulations to all the builders of those fine boats.
My favourite has to be the little outboard dinghy, just because I have one practically identical to it...wonderful workmanship.
Here's my little dinghy...nowhere near as good, but I tried my best. It's just awaiting some fish boxes full of fish from Mark and it's about ready to go public.
Rich
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Thanks for the pictures Jason, great shots and good to see Tims new hovercraft model in operation. Unfortunately I was all loaded up and ready to leave this morning and I got the car out of the drive which I'd cleared last night but I couldn't get it out of the road at the top of my drive, which was compacted and frozen snow. After a few failed attempts the only option was to give up or risk dinting the car..........again!
As for the dinghy Rich, I really like these little workboat models which can look very effective with a little imagination. Yours also looks the part and will be a lovely model on the water. I've actually got about three or four outboards and a couple of wooden boats ready to have a go at one one day but it's about number ten on the list of unfinished projects at the moment!!
Thanks again Jason for keeping the thread going, in fact it's over to you now for three months!!
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Thanks for the pics Jason great shots by the way did you get any video of it
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hi BB
sorry you did not make to the pond today I will do my best to keep the thread going i take it you are of back to work take care we will see you soon hope all the ice as gone by the time you get back {-) {-)
tim i have emailed you some more pictures
jason
kirklees model boat club
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hi all
still a bit of ice on are pond today so we add ago at pushing it about great fun on a sunday morning
a few pitures for you
jason
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a few more ;)
jason
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wow nice pictures I always wanted to get a tug to Plane, :o
nice boats though
Peter
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Tig Tug look great with those ridiculously oversized funnels .... must build one ... one day.... need a good bellowing smoke unit though!
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Martin...no. Resist man...resist!
Rich
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here's a couple i took same day.
jabba.
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more.
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another.
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Great shots guys at last you could at least get the boats in the water again. Looks like you had a bit of fun into the bargain. As always the tugs look the part and make great shots.
I'm just finishing off some figures for the Joffre so she will be appropriately manned when you see her next time. Never used acrylics for figures before but they are coming out OK so far.
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a short vid of mini springer jumping out of water onto ice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJYMQXmJ530
jabba.
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Springer jumping----great :-))
(wheres the vid of you getting it off the ice !)
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had a big tree branch,to help get it back in the water.
thanks jabba.
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here's a short vid of my eldergarth towing my barge,onboard footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iBZPSIalAk
jabba.
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What with being very busy last time home and now back at work we haven't added a great deal to this thread for a few months but I promise I'll get laid down on the path again next time home. The things I do for a picture. In the meantime I've been sent a couple of other shots that we can add here to keep things going.
First up is a shot of the Kirklees Model Boat Club stand at the CADMA show in Doncaster. Always a good display of models, as are all the other stands, and a testament to the hard work that always goes ito putting it all together.
Next is a model I haven't seen before and that is a Graupner Sidney Star. I've always had a soft spot for "Box Boats" having spent a great number of years on them and although they can't be said to be attractive have always had an appeal to me. I'd really like one day to scratch build one of the ships I sailed on in my early days at sea, but that is at the lower end of the project list. I'm sure it would make Bryan Young smile though to hear me thinking of a scratch build model!
Another new model to the club froma new member is a paddler model still under construction but not a great deal left to do to her. We seem to have quite a few paddlers nowadays and look quite impressive when a couple of them get together on the water at the same time.
We then have a couple of tug shots but unfortunately no information about them so if anyone recognises thier models please feel free to tell us a bit about them.
Finally an overview of the pond at Wilton Park. I still consider us to be very lucky at Kirklees to have such a good facility and such a good relationship with the park, long may it continue.
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cool stuff. I see you have a Aquacraft tugboat. What scale are those? they look pretty great and at a nice price!
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Which tugboat are you referring to? The grey one is a scratchbuild from, I think, a Glynn Guest plan and I will ask a bit more about the maroon one when I next see it.
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Something a little bit different this time on the Hall of Fame. Our very own Stan recently displayed a number of his models at a local primary school in the hope of generating some new club recruits of the future. Having taken a few shots of the event we thought they might find an interested audience here as well. I'm reliably informed there are more tucked away as well!
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What a good idea to raise fresh blood to the hobby and wonderful models.
Tell me what does Stan do in his spare time {-)
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"Susie B"......
best bit of realistic model making i have seen in a long time :-))
fantastic model
(Susie B is my sister... not relevant but true)
Dave B
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Agreed, the Suzie B is stunning. I would like more details about her.....That I would love to build..
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Hi Guys. Thanks to Bunkerbarge for putting on Mayhem these pictures of some of my models. Yes there is a further five not on display, the Susie B is a Midwest lobster boat to a scale of 1/12 or 1in to the foot. Model details length 30in beam 10in powered by a 550 motor. Batteries are two 7.2 4500m/amp ni cads, the speed controller is a very early Mtronicks unit. Other features include a diesel sound including start up and lights that are turned on via an Action electronic switch. Power for the lights is taken from the drive battery through a voltage regulator which supplies three volts to the lights. Susie B is now twenty one years old, has had numerous refits over this time but it still gets lots of attention when on display at model shows. Crew figures are Tamiya, pit crew sadly no longer available and the tools are nearly all from dolls house collections. Deck planking is now starting to weather due to sunlight and water being splashed on it and various parts of the super structure are staring to split, all part of the natural ageing of the model. The prop shaft is home made from brass tube and rod and it has never been removed since it was installed. Lubrication to the prop shaft is via an oil point inside the hull. Construction is all timber and ply and the outside of the hull is glass fibre. If you need any more information on Susie B or any of the models please send me a p/m via Mayhem.
Stan Reffin
Kirklees Model Boat Club :-)) :-)) :-))
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There are actually more shots of Suzy B earlier on in this thread
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well the liake was frozen today proving a perdfect enviroment for me and my hovercraft the pics are too lagre to fit onto the site so i have put them here http://www.flickr.com/photos/19759955@N07/?saved=1
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Well i tried my hovercraft today the fist tiem she had been on the water all went well a bit of a trimming issue but thats easy to sort out
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with the warm weather more models come out of hibanation heres a few from recent weeks on a sunday morning
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more pics
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more pics
for some reson the pics dont seem to laod up i will try again see below
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more pics
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more models lake side
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the sun is out and so are the models
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more pics
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All the recent pics are bt Stan of KMBC so credit must go to him dont forget its out mountfleet models a stem day this Sunday 09.00- 4.00