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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: Nordlys on January 23, 2017, 02:26:37 pm

Title: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 23, 2017, 02:26:37 pm
Has any member built this model sea plane tender from the MM1391 plan?


What I would like to know is the overall length of the Model
I note that some plans show 3 windows on cabin, the MM1391 plan version has 4 windows
Thanks anyone.
Nordlys.

Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: BFSMP on January 23, 2017, 03:24:47 pm

is this the one you mean. I remember Neil showing me his model a while ago so looked for the thread on here.


http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,47485.0.html (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,47485.0.html)


Jim.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 23, 2017, 03:50:08 pm
Jim,  this model version is almost identical and I too saw this thread with Neil's boat as I was  searching earlier .


This is the three window version and I believe it is about 37" long (950mm).
What I would like to know is how long is the 4 window version of the plan I mentioned MM1391


I suppose it must be something slightly longer.
I'm going to attempt to make one or the other this season,  just got to make a choice and buy the plan


Thanks..
N
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: TailUK on January 23, 2017, 04:16:43 pm
 The four window version is a MkIA and the length is given as 41½ ft 

The 3 window version is referred to as a 200 class Seaplane Tender  and the given length is 37½ ft.

Check out

http://www.bmpt.org.uk/other_boats_history/Seaplane%20Tenders/ST206a.htm
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: BFSMP on January 23, 2017, 04:19:15 pm

hi, N,


I do know that neil did make the original boat from plank on frame from the frames/keel/cabin that a man called Steve from a company called Model Boat Bits supplied him, but he then made moulds from the hull and cabin he made.


He gave Steve the moulds to do with what he wanted after he had made the grp mouldings for the above boat for himself. so if you don't fancy building a P O F hull, Steve has moulds to produce the 37.5" hull and superstructure to save both time and space inside.


Jim.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 23, 2017, 04:25:13 pm
According to the record here: http://www.airsearescue441.com/ (http://www.airsearescue441.com/) the boat was 41.5 feet long so at 1/12 scale the model will be 41.5 inches long (105.5cm)

Colin
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 23, 2017, 05:31:58 pm
I think that just about answers my question about this plan,
I might just choose the shorter length model plan now at 37.5"


I do have a Range safety Launch at 43" long and it gets a bit a heavy and unmanageable.
Thanks to all
N
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 23, 2017, 06:02:00 pm
ST 206 is a 37 footer.  Some pics of her last voyage in 2010 below.

Colin
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 23, 2017, 06:53:13 pm
Wow! What fantastic pictures Colin!
Many thanks.
I need to get that hull shape right - it looks formidable....


N.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 23, 2017, 07:21:09 pm
If you PM me your Email I can send you more shots of the boat. You can never have too many photos!

Colin
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: furball on January 23, 2017, 10:07:03 pm
My dad was the wireless operator on these running Air Sea Rescue out of Montrose in WW2.


Lance
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 24, 2017, 08:55:19 am
Thanks Lance - an interesting connection - you must know a bit about these boats/
Do you have a model Seaplane Tender too?


N/
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: John W E on January 24, 2017, 09:11:35 am
Hi this may of help to you  :-))
http://www.rafboats.co.uk/st375mk1.html

john
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Nordlys on January 24, 2017, 09:25:24 am
John, many thanks. This is a very useful link with a lot of boats to explore.


N.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: JIM WORNER on January 24, 2017, 10:58:16 am
Are you aware of the series of publications "The history of ROYAL AIR FORCE MARINE CRAFT 1918 - 1986" ?
Author G D Pilborough MIRT.
Appendix 1b covers the 200 class and contains a copy of Air Ministry drawing E6/515, general arrangement  for the 37'6'' RAF GENERAL SERVICE LAUNCH.
Long out of print, but isbn no O 9510266 3 1. Pub Canimpex Publishing 1986, your local library should be able to obtain a copy for you.
My copies are subscription no 87 of 100. So precious that I'm afraid I will not loan them out.
However my understanding of copyright law is that if you make a copy for your own use that is legal, so should you travel to Yorkshire you will be welcome to use my copier.
Good luck with the project, I am waiting for a reply about the moulded hull and deck.
Cheers
Jim :-))
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Ron Rees on January 24, 2017, 03:15:23 pm
I did a foam build version based on Colin Bishops photos back in Model Boats Mag July 2014.
Cracking little model, goes really well, If you can't find the article and you think it may help, PM me.


Ron.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: TailUK on January 25, 2017, 02:59:11 pm
I was looking for something else and came across this.  An unusual angle showing what's going on in the rear part of the boat.
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Netleyned on January 25, 2017, 03:15:04 pm
My dad was the wireless operator on these running Air Sea Rescue out of Montrose in WW2.



Are you sure your dad was in a seaplane tender?
Most of them did eat it says on the tin and tended
Sunderland squadrons. Very few were fitted with
Radio, hence the dearth of aerials on the mast.


Ned


Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Netleyned on January 25, 2017, 03:26:11 pm
Just spoken to a ST 206 builder
Who assured me that some were used
for fire and rescue during WW2.
It would have been quite hairy in one of
those out in the North Sea even without
Mr Hitler's boys gatecrashing the party.


Ned
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: furball on January 25, 2017, 04:02:22 pm
Yes, I think he said they had both 37' 6" and 41' versions. If the one shown above was the one rebuilt at Marchwood, we got shown around it about 15 years ago, before it was finished.


Lance
Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: John W E on January 25, 2017, 04:15:35 pm
Hi ya Nettleyned

I think it could be the MK1 version that his dad was on - have a look at the pics you can see the owld aeriel wires with the big round insulators.

follow this link and have a look at the date these boats were built :-)) :-)) :-))

http://www.rafboats.co.uk/galleryst.html

John

Title: Re: Seaplane Tender MM1391 plan
Post by: Tug Hercules Fireman on January 25, 2017, 09:42:27 pm
Have you seen Pat Mathhews great build of the Panair Seaplane Tender ;

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2042278-Panair-XX-P-Seaplane-Tender