Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Baldrick on September 08, 2017, 04:49:35 pm
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While waiting for my next project I have been keeping busy with the Nordkap. Have the hull half planked now and feel I have got over the worst bit of worrying if the planking will be my nemesis. To be honest I found the hull worked out with quite nice planking lines , a minimal amount of trimming of planks and no stealers as yet , getting to the point of coating the inside with resin before I close it up too much. The instructions do leave a lot to the builders imagination and you do need to do quite a bit of forward thinking to avoid ending up the proverbial backwater. {:-{
Don't think I will be going the full monty on this one, probably try selling it when I have finished building which for me is the interest
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Looking at it from the pointy end
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And a view of the deck , now planked and finished with 2 coats of sanding sealer, need to rub this over with fine steel wool to matt it. Also need to fit a stooling for the heel of the mast before I close the sides in.
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A bit of a close up to follow when I can get it to work !
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another go.
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It's coming along very nicely 👍. Nordkap was my first attempt at a plank on frame build and I found it an excellent kit. She sails well and looks good on the water, too.
Peter.
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I think nordkap is going to be my next build after my current one I love billings kits and there materials everyone slates them but I haven't really had any problems my current build it was one of the original kits so the wood was tough to get the planking right as it was thinning etc
Great job tho looking forward to seeing more
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A lovely job so far. Great deck planking too.
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Yes I really enjoyed my Nordkap build...yours is looking good, lets see it finished :-))
My effort...maybe not my best but...well...I made it O0
JB.
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Morning Baldbrick.
If you like fishing boats billing sell the Cux 87, it's similar to Nordkap, a Geman crab boat, wife bought this one for me shortly after I'd made my Nordkap, I sold it on ebay back in 2005 as I wanted a change of tack, (a fib!)
A quick look in the box and all very familiar in construction...just slightly bigger with large and difficult looking crab nets, I chickened out...and decided nope too hard!
I'd really like to see one built...would be easy to make after Nordkap, not sure about the nets though.
I have some more pics of my bulid but can't find them at the moment, planking was a puzzle at first but with patience and going slowly it turned out resonably passable, filler and paint covers a lot of sins...ahem.
A photo of the box to prove I had it in 'stock' :D
Lets see more photo's of yours soon.
Regards and go easy :-))
JB.
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Hi JB.
You build looks damned good, hope I can emulate it. My build stalled last month due to the episode of the being sent resin and hardener which turned out to be two bottles of hardener, one mislabeled as resin ( moaned about elsewhere on the forum). The resulting mess, although cleaned up made me change my plans. I had intended to give the hull outside a coat of sanding sealer before priming, but as raw hardener had got on the hull outside I decided to give it two coats of resin/hardener to seal it in.
I think this turned out to be a blessing in disguise as the resin sanded easily and covered all the planking lines leaving a nice smooth finish with very little in the way of spots to rectify.
So I am now back on track, have just bit the bullet and hacked the holes in the hull for the anchor boxes, gluing them up is a right caper, good old superglue. Just having a long think about which direction to take next, perhaps the forecastle construction then paint up the main hull.
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Here's a couple pf photos of my Nordkap. The first one was taken the day I finished her, back in October 2008, and the other at our lake the following year. The fishing had evidently been good. as the deck fish boxes are nearly full :} . She still gets a regular outing at our club days, and goes to several shows a year.
Peter.
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Beautiful :-))
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Two men in white coats are at my front door... Nordkap - Norden...I always get them mixed up, it's my brain I think %%
Thanks anyway Baldrick...At least the colour colour is similar to peter's...!
I'm sure it's just taking time with any build of a model, no matter what type, I go slowly and prepare as much as I can first.
Peter's model shows why we do it...the end result :-)) :-)) :-))
JB.
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Here's a couple pf photos of my Nordkap. The first one was taken the day I finished her, back in October 2008, and the other at our lake the following year. The fishing had evidently been good. as the deck fish boxes are nearly full :} . She still gets a regular outing at our club days, and goes to several shows a year.
Peter.
That Peter is the standard of build I am trying to achieve. If I will make it only time will tell , but it is the hope that drives me forward. :-))
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I wonder if one has ever been found inside a crocodile %%
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No crocodiles down our way - the sharks ate them all {-)
Peter.
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{-) Good old paul hogan
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Here's a couple pf photos of my Nordkap. The first one was taken the day I finished her, back in October 2008, and the other at our lake the following year. The fishing had evidently been good. as the deck fish boxes are nearly full :} . She still gets a regular outing at our club days, and goes to several shows a year.
Peter.
Peter I am in a quandary. The plans do not show if the vertical rub strips repeat on the port side of the boat as shown on the starboard. I was assuming they were positioned under the gantries to take the wear from the gear being hauled aboard, but the gantries are only positioned on the starboard . I wonder if they do repeat so that operations could be switched to the other side subject to the work in relocating the gantries. Your thoughts please .
The other thing is that on browsing other builds on the web I found one where the builder had modified the bottom skeg of the rudder to be demountable. this allowed the rubber and post to be removed. as designed once installed they are captive
see https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/thumbgallery.php?t=1014021&do=threadgallery&type=img&group=none&starter=no
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Hi Baldrick, I am just refurbishing a Mary Ann , she is near identical in the hull, and the first thing I did was to carefully saw off the rear part of the keel under the rudder.
The rudder was not right anyway but I prefer to have a pintle locating the bottom of the rudder on a small screwed in section. The rudder looks to have been fitted before planking was done! However the planking is very good. So I made a new brass one more like the plans show.
With the rudder removed I could extract the original Billing prop tube (broken fixed prop) and drilled a larger diameter hole and fitted a new one with a 4 BA thread so I could use some lovely brass props that I have in the prop box.
Also the motor grossly overpowered the boat and I fitted a new one allowing just 3 watts for drive power. I have yet to see if I have got it right!
regards Roy
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Hi Roy.
Thanks , I think i will doctor my models skeg before I paint it , I have already fitted a brass bearing plate for the pintle to engage in.
I note Billings on their website quote the Mtronics M500 6.0-12.0 V for the Nordkap.
regards Bald's
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Baldrick, I just assumed that the rubbing strips were on both sides, and there's sufficient material included, so I put them on both sides. Whether that's prototypically correct I don't know, and no one has ever asked {:-{
Peter.
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Peter .
many thanks for your reply, sometimes I think I worry about inconsequential things too much. Unlike you I had barely enough material in the kit to do one side so perhaps mine will have one side only. Strange but I was tight on deck planking as well as hull planking, had to eke it out and make sure I did not waste any. Billings must have cut down on spare content.
cheers B
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It sounds as if they have cut back, I had quite a lot of planking left over, enough to start my next build. It seems that it's not only governments that are making cuts %)
Peter.
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Just love the color and the trawler itself ..... :-))
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Getting the hull to a point of completion and starting to think about the upper works. Really pleased with the kit and although some of my work is not quite as I would like it things seem to be coming together.
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I was afraid that the cabin would turn out to be a bit flimsy, but such is the quality of the kit that it is rock solid when glued together. Also it nestles in position very neatly and just slides into position, like pulling on a comfortable old wellington boot.
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another small step down the slipway.
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Had a spot of bother with the kit piece of ply to fprm the hood for the exhaust stack. The ply just did not want to take up the shape required now matter how I tried. In the end I made the hood out of brass sheet and soldered it . Still took me several attempts to get the paint to an acceptable standard
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Merry Christmas Baldrick.......assuming that the propeller is as supplied in the kit, however looks a little small for the hull contour cavity.....Derek
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Thanks Derek and I wish the same to you down there in the nether regions.
It is a replacement prop, the one out of the box was a rather nasty plasticy thing all frayed around the edges. Although of the same diameter (40mm) it is not totally to my satisfaction. I got it on the web and it is a fabricated one with flat blades rather than cast with some nice shape to the body, may swap it later.
Best wishes for the coming year, don't bother returning our cricket team .
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Time to tackle the forecastle.
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what a beautiful build of a lovely trawler, and exceptional finish of a billing POF hull.........
makes a lovely change from all these Shannon's going around, lol.
great stuff to see.
neil.
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what a beautiful build of a lovely trawler, and exceptional finish of a billing POF hull.........
makes a lovely change from all these Shannon's going around, lol.
great stuff to see.
neil.
Cheers Neil.
Amazing what can be achieved over Christmas with the goggle box output achieving it's usual dismal standard.
One problem is in using a phone camera the short lens FL gives divergence distortion , the stanchions are all upright. Must stop being lazy and dust off the Canon.
B.
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one more for luck
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I thought for interests sake I might try the laser level I bought some time back from Lidl to see how it worked in setting the waterline. Seems to work quite well . May use it in the future rather than the pencil and block of wood.
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Found the vertical axis projection useful for getting the mast aligned square to the waterline rather than just the deck. Will now glue it into it's stool . Photograph makes it look a bit pi$$ed due to the parallax of the lens
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:-)) Great for checking
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I still put a line on though
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Lovely model you're producing :-)
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believe it or not, baldrick, the waterlines on trawlers were not usually straight.
always painted with a roller brush on the slip way, they were usually painted, unless new from the builders yard, and the "water line" followed usually the underside of the second row of plates so ran basically parallel to the bulwark tops, and then at the bow and stern would taper down towards the sea giving a very odd shape waterline indeed.
it can be seen on these three shots of trawlers, and this fine model of a friend of mine.
so don't worry if you don't get it straight, lol.
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Hi Baldrick. Could I ask does this look complete to you? I have checked the main ply sheets are there
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I guess so Andy. I remember thinking when I first opened my box that it looked a bit scant for what I was expecting and the box was not sellotaped shut, but it was all there. . The rather minuscule plastic prop will probably be hiding inside the lifeboat. The prop was the only thing I can recall replacing (with a brass one) You might consider one a few mm larger as well .
regards Balders
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Thanks for that :-))
I bought one quite a while ago on eBay that was pre lasering and a lot of the sheets were mahogany. I got a full refund for that.
So the absence of mahogany sheets threw me a bit but it seems to be complete and was described as reduced due to box damage to £249 , then because I showed interest I got a message that I could by it for £190 so I offered £150 and it was accepted :-)
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Regarding the prop on Nordkap, I replaced the plastic original on mine with a similar sized brass prop, but later upgraded that one to a slightly larger diameter. This gave a much better performance, not fast but more responsive steering.
Peter.