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Title: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 06, 2018, 04:08:43 pm
I've followed the instruction manual section 7.12 and set throttle to neutral but when I kill the transmitter it makes no difference.
Does anyone know something I'm missing?
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: Mark T on February 06, 2018, 04:13:27 pm
On Spektrum transmitters when you change the throttle setting you then have to rebind the receiver to reset the fail safe - maybe it’s the same?
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 06, 2018, 04:14:48 pm
On Spektrum transmitters when you change the throttle setting you then have to rebind the receiver to reset the fail safe - maybe it’s the same?


Good one Mark but I tried that too. I'm wondering if the manual covers an upgraded unit.


Or maybe the receiver needs an update, there's an update button on it but no instructions
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: kinmel on February 06, 2018, 05:55:51 pm
On the original model, a long Menu press did one thing and a short menu press was "save and exit".
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 06, 2018, 05:58:45 pm
That's what I thought too Alan but it doesn't do anything to indicate how long. Menu press is supposed to save and Exit press leaves without saving.
Could be faulty after all I ordered a mode2 and it says this on the box but its a mode1  {-)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: Fred Ellis on February 06, 2018, 11:39:33 pm
Link to the manual for the Turnighy 9xR  https://hobbyking.com/media/file/692301903X39217X34.
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Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: kinmel on February 07, 2018, 08:17:58 am
The  "manual"  for my Turnigy i6 transmitter says something similar and on that saving an option requires a very fast touch on the menu button.

The problem is both a long, or short press changes to the same screen afterwards.
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 07, 2018, 09:00:46 am
Thanks Fred but that’s a different model
I think I will have to contact hobby king Alan
I’ve followed the manual in all permutations and no luck
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: kinmel on February 07, 2018, 09:12:09 am

I think I will have to contact hobby king Alan


Good luck with that !

See you in a couple of weeks  :}
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: The Old Fart on February 07, 2018, 09:14:36 am
When using the 9x I had to set channel 8 to strobe backwards and forwards, I then used this as a signal to Arduino, No change = no reception, move outputs to failsafe as set by arduino.

The i6x 10 channel  has easy set failsafe setting.
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: McGherkin on February 07, 2018, 09:21:24 am
I’ve not used the 9X’s stock software in a long time, but are you perhaps plugged into the elevator channel?


Also have you set it to 0% or 50%?


From what I remember of the stock software it didn’t actually tell you it had saved anything, it just did it.


https://hobbyking.com/media/file/725056143X2037269X20.pdf
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 07, 2018, 09:31:25 am
I’ve not used the 9X’s stock software in a long time, but are you perhaps plugged into the elevator channel?


Also have you set it to 0% or 50%?


From what I remember of the stock software it didn’t actually tell you it had saved anything, it just did it.


https://hobbyking.com/media/file/725056143X2037269X20.pdf (https://hobbyking.com/media/file/725056143X2037269X20.pdf)


Plugged into channel 3 and set to 50% but also tried 0% as I have reverse nullified.
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 07, 2018, 09:48:30 am
Found an article that suggests failsafe only works in PCM mode rather than PPM. I'll try that but isn't PCM old?
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: JimG on February 07, 2018, 10:56:16 am
PCM was used for 35 and 40MHz sets and does not apply to 2.4GHz.
Jim
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 07, 2018, 10:57:25 am
PCM was used for 35 and 40MHz sets and does not apply to 2.4GHz.
Jim


Thanks Jim
I tried it in desperation and it went mental  {-)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 10, 2018, 06:17:12 pm
Thanks Fred but that’s a different model
I think I will have to contact hobby king Alan
I’ve followed the manual in all permutations and no luck


I think Hobby King are sending me another. I left a review and they picked up on it and opened a case for me.

Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 10, 2018, 07:21:20 pm
Confirmed Hokby King are sending a replacement and no need to send the faulty one back  :-))  let’s hope this works  :-)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 10, 2018, 10:07:29 pm
I've discovered an anomaly


I changed to a Spektrum DX6i with an Orange receiver (can't use a Spektrum receiver due to smart safe function) and throttle is connected to elevator for this.


Failsafe works but only if I switch the receiver on BEFORE connecting the batteries to the ESC's
If I have the ESC's connected and then switch the receiver on all goes "boobs" up.


The receiver is on it's own supply and the red wires on both ESC disconnected.


Anyone experienced this?

It's as though the ESC's are producing some sort of EMF that interferes with connection


(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-T8fbtzV/0/7970ed31/X2/i-T8fbtzV-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: RMH on February 10, 2018, 10:42:16 pm
If the receiver is not using a bec connection why do you need to disconnect the red wire from the esc's?
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: kinmel on February 10, 2018, 10:59:31 pm
If the receiver is not using a bec connection why do you need to disconnect the red wire from the esc's?

You can only have one power supply to the receiver. So if you are using a stand alone battery, the red wire from a built in BEC must be disconnected.

If you have 2 power inputs, the white smoke escapes from the receiver and then there is nothing to push the electrickery around the circuit board. %)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 10, 2018, 11:38:15 pm
Fixed it with better equipment.


Now running Spektrum DX6 with AR6600T telemetry receiver. All works as should with same settings as the DX6i in mode 1
So I can monitor battery/ temperature/ RPM too.
I bought it for the Portgarth but didn't work out so now it has a new home  :-)


Bonus... the servos are all much smoother  :-))  11ms digital


(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vQxGsS2/0/580ea8bc/X2/i-vQxGsS2-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: RMH on February 10, 2018, 11:52:50 pm
Don't think I will ever understand this electrickery stuff
Title: Re: Turnigy 9X failsafe
Post by: T33cno on February 10, 2018, 11:56:09 pm
Don't think I will ever understand this electrickery stuff


I'm learning Guitar and I know which is easier  {-)