Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: kees de mol on June 01, 2018, 11:21:46 pm
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I have been building a number of modern fishing vessels with pleasure, using different types of plastic, but I also wanted to build a ship with wood. It had to be a fishing ship and soon my eye fell on the Zeillogger (Saillugger or herringlugger). I also came in contact with someone who would like to have a logger's model and in the past two years we have searched for information, drawings and pictures. In the meanwhile I have enough material to start building.[/color][/font][/size]
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The herringlugger in General
Until the end of the 19th century people used Bomschuiten (flatbottom ships) in Holland for fishin herring. But in the latter half of the 19th a new fishing vessel came up, the logger. The design came from France but was soon taken to the Netherlands after which the design was adapted to the fishery. It resulted in light, fast ships that could quickly come to the fishing grounds and quickly returned to the port. As a result, more fishingtime was gained and the shipowners and shareholders made more money. The sailoggers were used to fish for herring with driftnets (vleetnetten)
The Fleet Fishing
The vleet-fishery is a herring fishing that was operated from the end of May to December in the southern parts of the North Sea. Only this fishery started until the end of May because the herring had only been sufficiently developed for consumption (maatjes-herring) and in winter the herring left the North Sea. The vleet- fishing was performed with so-called Bomschuiten (until the end of the 19th century) and then with steam or sailluggers
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The driftnet for this fishery are called a Vleet. This is a vertical curtain in the water and consists of 100 to 150 interconnected nets (31 meters long and 16 meters high).
These nets are connected to a long cable, called the Reep to which floats (Breels or Scottish blowing) are attached to keep the net floating. The "Reep" is attached to the ship at the end. The net has meshes that are slightly smaller than the herrings head. When the herring swims in the net, he stays stuck in the net through his gills and can not go away anymore.
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The Vleet is turned overboard in the afternoon, which takes about 1.5 hours. The Vleet will then remain in the water for a few hours until midnight and is then hauled in and the herring goes in bins on the deck. This takes 4 to 5 hours. After this the crew takes the herring for gutting, salting, putting in tubs and storage. After cleaning the ship, it is often time to turn off the vleet again. They worked for 6 or 7 days a week and trips lasted for 7 weeks.
The KW140, Wilhelmina VII
The Wilhelmina VII was a steel saillogger with the hull made of steel. The rest of the ship is made of various types of wood. Of the same type, several were built for different shipping companies.
The lugger was built in 1912 at the shipyard Gebr. Boot at Leiderdorp on behalf of the fishingcompany Gebr. The Dulk te Katwijk aan Zee. Cost was Fl. 15,200 (Dutch guilders) and presumably she got in line with the shipping company in 1914.
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The logger is rigged about 38 meters long. The length of the keel is 25 meters and the overall hull length is 28 meters. The height is about 25 meters. Width is 6.6 meters.
Tragedy
About the history of the Wilhelmina VII, an ink-black veil hangs for the family of the sailors with much uncertainty, sadness and misery.
On 16-2-1918, Wilhelmina VII left under the command of Captain Arie den Hollander with 5 other crew members heading towards the Doggersbank for herring fishing. Since that date nothing is ever heard from the ship and its crew. It was assumed that the ship has hit a mine and perished.
Later it became apparent that Wilhelmina VII was destroyed with all crew on 19-2-1918 by the U-Boote UB-64 under the leadership of Kapitänleutnant Woldemar Petri (1883-1951).
Much is unknown about reason for the sinking of the Wilhelmina VII, as the captain's log clearly states that he recognized her as a Dutch fishing vessel and Wilhelmina VII had the words HOLLAND on SB and BB. Perhaps the steel hull caused the captain to be confused or there are other things that play along, but it will always remain unclear.
The names of the killed crew are. Skipper Arie den Hollander (39), mate Willem van der Plas (33), sailor Jacob den Hollander (37), sailor Jan Zwanenburg (34), sailor Jeroen den Hollander (43) and oldest Arie den Hollander (16)
One of the crewmembers is the grandfather of the man I will build this model for.
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The model is built in scale 1/25, giving a hull-length of 113cm and a total length of 152cm and a height of 100cm. This will give me a lot of space to get a high level in details and make things work.
I will make the hull of fiberglass and polyester and the rest of the ship will be full of oak and brass.
For building, I base myself on the original buildingplans I found and photos of other sailloggers from that time.
Particularly I will use information and photos of the only remaining saillogger VL-92 de Balder that has been very precisely restored and brought back into old state.
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Update on the KW140
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Found some funny stuff at the home depot shop today
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And some more progress on the "creature from the movie The Blob"
First some foam had to be cut away from the keel and frames
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And after some sanding it looks a little better allready
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Next step is adding some filler. Fix and finish from Home Depot.
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The third time adding some filler (after sanding)
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Next time I will sand it untill its very smooth and then I will apply some layers of polyester filler for a very smooth result.
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After sanding the hull I used a lot of polyester filler to give it a smooth surface.
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For the final coating I used packaging tape which I applyed in two layers.
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This gives a very smooth surface on which I can apply 4 or more coats of wax to prevent the hull (which will act as a plug) form sticking to the glassfiber and polyester in the next step.
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new update
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After laminating and trimming the excess fibers I started to separate the hull from the plug. That went well and after a few minutes I had a nice looking lugger hull in my hands.
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Then I sanded the fiberstructure smooth and clean because I will add hull plates later with rivets to give the hull a realistic finish
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A very tragic event Kees - I'm sure you will make every effort to make a replica for the Grandson to treasure.
Being a one-time fisherman myself, I have great memories of the herring industry.
Look forward to your updates as always.
Good luck with your endeavour...
Regards,
Ray.
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After sanding the hull I placed a keel and I glued strips of thin plastic to simulate the hullplates. After this it was a lot of work to get a nice finish but it worked well.
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I also made a rudder out of brass
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The rudder has been adjusted a bit and the hull has been smoothly sanded with waterproof grit 1000 and I have carved the joints on the hullplates. Half-round strips were also glued on the hull. After this everything is neatly put in the primer and everything looks nice.
I have made a stand from sturdy cardboard so that the model will be firmly in place.
I also glued cross beams in the hull and on top wooden strips with a trip styrene. That will be the gutter that drains the water from the deck. The trusses also come up here. Everything is smoothly sanded again, because I will not be able to get there again. On the crossbeams I made reinforcements on the places where the masts will come.
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Quite a lot of work done. The scuppers are finished, and after that I started measuring the braces for the bulwarks. These will remain removable for the time being, so I can spray them seperately from, the hull. After that I started on the "potdeksel" (don't know what it means in Dutch, let alone in English ... it is some kind of lid ...) which went well.
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New glue methode from flex-i-file touch-n-flow system
Very satisfyed!
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A very tragic event Kees
Being a one-time fisherman myself, I have great memories of the herring industry.
Look forward to your updates as always.
Thank you for your reply. You as a one time fisherman and I as a son, grandson and great grandson of fisherman know what is is...
Building this ship reminds me of the time my father or my grandfather went out on the sea.
I was afraid he would never come back. He came back time after time and he is still with me. But these men did not came back. Only because of the madness off the first world war.
I feel very connected to the ship and deceased crew. This model is to honor them
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You made making that hull look so easy.
I think I would like to try this method some time but first I have a few questions.
When you were forming the hull, were the first layers of filler water based (plaster)?
Did you need to have any protective coating on top of the expanded foam before using the filler?
Do you undercoat or seal the filler before using the polyester filler?
And how many layers of fibre glass and cloth did you use?
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WoW! you make that look so simple.... when we know it ain't! {:-{
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(A) When you were forming the hull, were the first layers of filler water based (plaster)?
(B) Did you need to have any protective coating on top of the expanded foam before using the filler?
(C) Do you undercoat or seal the filler before using the polyester filler?
(D) And how many layers of fibre glass and cloth did you use?
A. Yes I used waterbased wallfiller. It worked well but i wouldn't do that again. The plaster is fragile and brittle and gave some troubles on some places. Next time I will start with polyester filler immidiatlyB. NoC. No I didn'tD. I used 3 layers of glassfiber (wooven)
Note that you really need the packingtape (and in my opinion 3 or 4 layers of loosingwax) to loosen the plug succesfully from the hull
WoW! you make that look so simple.... when we know it ain't! {:-{
Thanks Martin
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In between as distraction I have made two figures for the herringlugger. As an example I used a photo from a book about sailing luggers. The figures come from a Tamiya-kit of truckers that I have re-build. The clothing is made with Milliput Putty fine. The male with the southwester will be sitting on a barrel.
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Wow, very impressive handywork!
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I made the blocks on the bow for lowering the mast while the crew shoots the gilnets.
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I bought a metal-black set to blacken the brass. I really like the finish
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And some openings for lines
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And the crew in a coat of primer
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Yes Kees...the Brass Black takes away the newness of machined or polished brass very well
In Australia, it is marketed as a single pack product and it produces a dull finish......
The bluish fluid in your kit marked Zwaeter? 1:4 is the same colour as our product
What are the other fluids for [apart from cleaning & de-greasing?] used for?.......
Derek
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Hello. Unfortunately there are no productname in the folder or on the bottels. On the bottles is only a disciption of what the fluid does. Like Ontvetter=degreaser and Zwarter=blackener
The last fluid is a conserver but I don't know what it is
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New progress on the herringlugger.
I started to finish the outside of the hull with thousands of 'fake' rivets. For these rivets I used some glue or paint for clothes. I also gave the hull a solid layer of primer to seal the rivets. In reality the ship would have more, much more rivets but I keep it this way. Iam afraid more rivets will do more harm then good. Now I have the idea off a riveted hull without turning it into a hedgehog or something.
I am also starting to sealize that this ship take much more time than the smaller models that i built earlier. It seems like evything takes twice as much time. But fortunately the challenge remains great and I enjoy the building of the model and the thinking out of everything.
Thanks for watchin...
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That's a neat way for making the rivets. Looking very realistic :-))
Dom
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Workmanship is outstanding :-))
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Whisper to Martin ... "Masterclass".
Kees, the build is a joy to watch. As to the time taken, it's being very much reflected in the quality of the work. Beautiful!
Andy
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The work on the herringlugger continues. I started to build a pvc deck in the right shape and started to lay an oak deck.
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Good to see you back on the model Kees.
You must have a lot of patience to be able to lay down planks complete with "caulking".
Is that some sort of cotton you're using or is it very thin card?
Regards,
Ray.
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Thanks. The caulking was done with 0.2mm thick plastic foil.
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Many thanks for the information Kees - it certainly looks realistic :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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I started building the different hatches. First I cut out the base in the wooden deck an after that I build the border and the hatch. When ready will place the border and the hatch in the wooden deck.
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I started building the different hatches. First I cut out the base in the wooden deck an after that I build the border and the hatch. When ready
will place the border and the hatch in the wooden deck.
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Just discovered this build log. Absolutely phenomenal workmanship.
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Thanks for your help. I dont know why the text was so small in the posting?
Thanks for all the kind words and all the views. I really enjoy building this fishingship but I have neglected to post more often. Now I have settled in my new job and education I hope to post more regularly.
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I made two new hatches for the livingspace of the crew. Sorry I really dont know how to call these in English.
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Building something in metal
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Hi Kees, lovely work and paint job yet again.
I'm not sure what the 2 earlier hatches are as yet - the fronts have got me a bit confused.
The one with the ports in is what we would call a companion way, leading down to the 'mess' (crews quarters.)
Regards,
Ray.
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Some more parts I've made in the past months. I will update the coming week about the herringlugger
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Building a clincker build wooden dinghy
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More lovely work - great to see you back on the modelling Kees :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Lifeboat pt2
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Wonderful work. :-)) Green with envy at your skill. <:(
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Excellent work there ~ That was a project by itself..
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Geweldig, dat is een kunstwerk!
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Good to see you back. And great work.
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I like the dinghy....very well done!!!
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Lots of dust arround here, time to update on this build. I made some navigationlights
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And also the steampowered capstan is present to haul in the nets
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And a pair of (bilge?)pumps
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No herringlugger without the masts so I made a start building them
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Hi Kees, that really is lovely work on the fittings and especially the mast work which suits the build so well.
You may know by now that the probable reason for her sinking is that on 1st February 1917 the Germans declared what was known as the Intensified Submarine Campaign which meant, roughly, that any and every ship was liable to be torpedoed and sunk without warning. Just to show the level, the figures just for April 1917 was 545,000 tons of British shipping was sunk and together with allied, neutral and fishing craft the total came to 875,000 tons.Part of the reason for the campaign was the existence of the so-called Mystery Ships or Q ships which led the U boat captains to become a lot more nervous for the rest of the war.CheersTony
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Thanks for your your explanation. Horrible numbers if you think about it. All those lives