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Title: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 14, 2019, 05:34:47 pm

FRIDAY 18th - SUNDAY 20th JANUARY 2019

Great Hall, Alexandra Palace, London, N22 7AY


Come along and see the full spectrum of modelling from traditional model engineering, steam locomotives and traction engines through to the more modern gadgets including trucks, boats, aeroplanes and helicopters as featured on “The One Show”.

Visitors can travel between the show's different zones, trying the activities and watching fascinating and technical demonstrations.

Over 50 clubs and societies will be present displaying their members work and competing to win the prestigious Society Shield. In total nearly 2,000 models will be on display.

All of the leading suppliers will also be present giving hobbyists an excellent opportunity to see and compare products under one roof. You will be able to purchase virtually anything you need for your next model or project or to get you started in a hobby.

This is a great day out for all the family, one the children will love with all the working models. If you are interested in modelling yourself or want to rekindle you childhood memories, you will find something amongst the many diverse types of modelling on display to admire. If you are not already a modeller hopefully the exhibition will fire your imagination to build something yourself and enjoy one of these satisfying hobbies.

The South's Major Showcase of Modelling... Not to be Missed!

https://www.londonmodelengineering.co.uk/

https://www.facebook.com/LondonModelEngineeringExhibition/
 
 
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Subculture on January 19, 2019, 01:08:06 pm
I visited yesterday. Sadly exhibits and traders appeared to be much reduced on past years, and I did hear that this may be the final show.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 19, 2019, 02:03:22 pm
 
What boat stands, displays etc?   :-)
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Subculture on January 19, 2019, 02:18:13 pm
Everything is down on last year. Some clubs have made a bit of an effort, but I think it's simply a case that many members in these organisations are getting on, or 'moving on' to the great workshop in the sky. Last year the whole back length of the hall had stands, this year they have just the one.

I'm local to the venue, so it wasn't a big deal for me, if I was travelling any distance to visit I'd have been disappointed.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 19, 2019, 02:47:11 pm
Feedback on the Model Engineer website indicates that the engineers were rather disappointed as well.

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 19, 2019, 02:56:17 pm
 
Must be hugely expensive putting on a show in London these days.....     {:-{
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 19, 2019, 04:23:14 pm
It always has been Martin, it's just that in the past there were enough visiting modellers and other interested people to pay for it! It's not just London though. By the look of it within a couple of years or so there won't be any commercial model shows of the old type left. The traders can't keep them afloat if there are not enough visitors, it just becomes too expensive for them. The old rule of thumb was that they should be able to cover their costs and make a bit of profit but I wonder how many of those at Warwick actually did so? Blackpool is sort of not profit making but the organisers still made a small loss, same at Haydock by all accounts.

Deans and Mobile Marine Models have deserted Warwick in favour of setting up their own events. Costs less and they seem to be drawing a good attendance which encourages other traders to participate at sustainable cost. Maybe that is the future?

Discuss!

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Dave_S. on January 19, 2019, 08:01:13 pm
I just got back from the MEE. Last show I went to in London was the old Model Engineer exhibition at Olympia in 1996. There was very little to compare, far smaller, no competition entries, very few traders. I went with a list of odds and ends I wanted, and the only stand selling anything marine related was Howes. Nothing against the Howes but they are my local shop!


I came home with a few clamps, some servos leads, solder and very little else. I met some of the people from the club I was in 25 years ago (Hanwell) and that did make the 3 hours each way worthwhile, but the show itself was but a shadow of its forerunner.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Subculture on January 19, 2019, 09:57:37 pm
The show being discussed here has no connection with the original MEE. It started as a show held in late January at Picketts Lock, and moved to Alexandra Palace around the turn of the millennium, when the venue at Picketts Lock was earmarked for redevelopment. It was much aimed at general model making, but seemed to morph into a show geared  more towards nuts and bolts model engineering over time.

The original MEE ceased to be a really large show in 1999, where it had a final hurrah also at Alexandra Palace. That was a good show and well attended by the public, but for some reason the plug was pulled after that. The show reappeared a few years later but with a much greater emphasis on high end model engineering.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Dave_S. on January 19, 2019, 10:03:34 pm
I am aware of the history, I only mentioned the original MEE as that was the last show I attended in London (1996) and so was the only thing I could compare it to. I suspect that the difference reflect the changes in society as modellers age than anything else. It was an OK day out, but I doubt I'd do it next year.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Andyn on January 19, 2019, 11:01:31 pm
I wonder how many of those at Warwick actually did so?


Frankly, I'm amazed any traders bother showing up at Warwick.


The reason I never did it as a trader was that by the time we'd paid for the extortionately expensive stall, hotels, food and travel it would have been nearly £1500 for the weekend. There is no chance we'd have got anywhere near that in revenue, never mind turning a profit.

Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 20, 2019, 09:09:58 am

It is so desperately sad that we don't have a comprehensive model show for marine enthusiasts where all (or at least most) of the traders turn up.



Anyone who has been to the Warley Model Railway Show (Rail), the Plastic Model Show at Telford or the BMFA Nationals at Barkston Heath (flying) knows exactly what I mean.


Even niche groups in other modelling hobbies have such shows ie 16mm Garden Rail Show at Peterborough. This is every bit as much small traders as model boats but they all turn up as do the modellers.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: imsinking on January 20, 2019, 09:45:59 am
There is a 'Marine modelling' only show at Haydock late in the year , The Model Boat Convention . . . BUT it's dying a death . . . the reason is KIDDIES wont go to look at model boats . . . Blackpool's show nearly closed until the new organisers opened the doors to RC cars/trucks . . .
Haydock organisers have to change with the times or . . .
I went to the Model Engineering Show at Doncaster , same thing there that RC cars/trucks made a big difference to attendances. 
Bill
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 20, 2019, 10:46:34 am

Garden railways don't have lots of kids either yet the show blossoms.


I don't think that the kids problem is that they don't want to look at Model Boats but rather that they don't want to look at Model Boats sitting doing nothing on tables. They would not want to look at trucks sitting on a table either.


All the other shows have lots going on - displays etc - but Model Boat shows are by comparison very pedestrian. Display pools are rarely exciting.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: coch y bonddu on January 20, 2019, 10:50:43 am
Maybee Tug Fanatic you should consider the Blackpool model show






Dave
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 20, 2019, 10:51:33 am
In answer to Tug Fanatic:

You have to bear in mind that model railways, plastic kits and model flying are all more popular than model boating so boaters constitute a much smaller customer base to draw upon.

The other big problem is that for many years now, show organisers have ploughed their own independent furrows without attempting to consolidate and rationalise.

In a three month period we have Haydock, Blackpool and Warwick. I doubt if many people go to all three, more probably just the one. Haydock is the survivor of a bitter dispute with two shows taking place at the same time within a few miles of each other. It is geographically in the same part of the country as the revived Blackpool show. Ellesmere port show was also in the same area until it folded.

Down south we had the original Model Engineering Exhibition sponsored by the publishers of Model Engineer and other modelling magazines and this was then challenged by the London Model Engineering Exhibition staged by Meridienne. Both shows initially took place over the winter period. Most people went to one or the other but not both as it was mostly just the same traders and exhibitors. Neither side wanted to compromiise and the original MEX, after trying different venues and times of the year now appears to have faded away altogether and it appears that the London show is also now no longer viable.

Warwick this year is reducing from three days to two which is probably a sensible step in cutting costs to match footfall but the trend is still downward I fear.

Introducing other types of modelling is a good sign and may boost attendance witha wider age range than superannuated boaters can offer but there still needs to be more co operation and consolidation as the existing big shows are all becoming unviable at once and could easily disappear within a couple of years leaving just smaller club and trader sponsored events.

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 20, 2019, 11:01:54 am

Colin

I doubt that Model Boats has fewer participants than 16mm Narrow Gauge model railways yet that has a show that blossoms & model boats has shows that are dying.

I don't have all (or indeed any of) the answers but I could see a National Festival of model boats working that embraced all aspects of the hobby into something that was engaging & exciting.


I have also said in the past that I think that we might be better to expand the promotion the idea of Model Boats at shows where lots of modellers turn up anyway (like Wings & Wheels) rather than cling to the idea that Model Boats are the key & that we might allow others to join us.


I also think that at least part of the problem is the lack of a national body that represents Model Boating. Yes the power boat racers have theirs & the sailors another but their is no equivalent of the BMFA (flying) nor the 16mm Association (Garden Railways)

I am being deliberately controversial but unless someone stirs things up a bit there soon won't be much left.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 20, 2019, 11:36:30 am
There is a national body for model boaters - the MPBA - but most boaters don't bother to support it, particularly the scale side so it isn't in a position to exert much influence these days. That's down to boater apathy!

A national show would be nice but somebody needs to stage it and it needs to be centrally located to allow as many people as possible to attend. Maybe the nearest you have to this at the moment is Warwick for displays/traders and the Mayhem Wicksteed gathering for running models. There are also some good club events still which might be expanded as used to happen with Beale Park until the owners tried to make it too commercial and drove the traders away. Haydock and Blackpool have proven venues but are too far North for a genuine national event.

Would Wicksteed Park have sufficient accommodation to stage a show with stands and traders? And how much would it cost?
Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Andyn on January 20, 2019, 03:05:38 pm
It is so desperately sad that we don't have a comprehensive model show for marine enthusiasts where all (or at least most) of the traders turn up.


As I said above, traders aren't there to make it a 'compreshensive' show. They're there because they run a business, and are there to put food on their tables. If they have found that they do not make a profit at shows - and believe me, I know how well each of the traders do at shows - they will not turn up again. This is the reason we never did Warwick, and ditched a load of shows across the country because we would be at a substantial financial loss if we went.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Subculture on January 20, 2019, 04:45:19 pm
As consolidation was mentioned, perhaps the MPBA should consider consolidating with the BMFA and BRCA, and various other organisations to  get some weight behind organising events that modellers would be interested in attending and might attract some new talent.

Over a decade ago I started up some pool runs for model submariners. The two major organisations that supposedly  represented the hobby in his country, the AMS and to a lesser extent the Sub Committee (primarily US based but with some UK members) had done little to try and reinvent themselves over the years, and seemed content to rest on their laurels.

The result of the pool runs was a stimulus to the hobby and a country wide series of events for model submariners that never existed before.

Something to bear in mind is that communication years ago was expensive- printed items dispatched by mail meant fairly high costs just to let folk know what was going on. With the internet, social media etc. information can be distributed at no cost, and it's meant that the relevance of many organisations is now greatly diminished.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Charlie on January 20, 2019, 08:03:45 pm

I 100% agree with Tug Fanatic. Most of the indoor model boat shows are dreadfully dull affairs. Who wants to see rows of models on a table - not me, and not most younger people judging by the falling attendance figures. And then you have all the crusty old fossils behind the tables who don't appear interested in engaging with visitors, and who give the impression they are only there for the free tickets they received from their club. They really put me off from attending as well!


Garden railways don't have lots of kids either yet the show blossoms.


I don't think that the kids problem is that they don't want to look at Model Boats but rather that they don't want to look at Model Boats sitting doing nothing on tables. They would not want to look at trucks sitting on a table either.


All the other shows have lots going on - displays etc - but Model Boat shows are by comparison very pedestrian. Display pools are rarely exciting.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 20, 2019, 08:22:59 pm
Well, to be fair, it's not easy to set up a decent sized pool in an internal show venue - all that water....

Fine for trucks of course and of course railways but if you want to see boats on the water you really need to attend club events. You won't see much in the way of model flying indoors either except for small electric models.

So, Charlie, what DO you want to see and under what conditions?

Do tell!

Colin

Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Dave_S. on January 20, 2019, 08:39:18 pm
I always like the shows based around some decent stretch of water, like the Beale park shows in the 90s or the Brighton Marina show(s).


Showing off decent models in a glorified paddling pool seemed a bit of a waste of time to me.


Model fliers have (had?) plenty of shows throughout the warmer months based on airfields, so there was always plenty of interest to watch as well a good choice of trade sellers. It shouldn't be impossible to organise a marine version of that, desire our smaller numbers.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 20, 2019, 08:44:07 pm
Well, the Mayhem weekend and many club events do just that but it is best that people get involved personally and participate. Events don't organise themselves as many people appear to believe.

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Dave_S. on January 20, 2019, 08:45:54 pm
I'll do my best to support events like that this year. I used to really enjoy them.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Charlie on January 20, 2019, 09:50:18 pm

Hi Colin,


For me, a show needs to have the following:
Outdoor venue
Lake or large pool
Lots of different models on the water throughout the day
Other types of models, be they cars, trucks, aircraft, tanks etc
Traders are a bonus, but not essential for me, since it is far easier to source everything online now
The one show that had the lot, was the Southern Model Show, back when it was held at the Hop Farm. That really was a tremendous show.


Charlie

Well, to be fair, it's not easy to set up a decent sized pool in an internal show venue - all that water....

Fine for trucks of course and of course railways but if you want to see boats on the water you really need to attend club events. You won't see much in the way of model flying indoors either except for small electric models.

So, Charlie, what DO you want to see and under what conditions?

Do tell!

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: tigertiger on January 21, 2019, 01:31:27 am
There is a national body for model boaters - the MPBA - but most boaters don't bother to support it, particularly the scale side so it isn't in a position to exert much influence these days. That's down to boater apathy!

 




That is perhaps a little bit unfair to model boaters. Looking at the MPBA homepage, it is focused on model power boats. It would be easy to think that it is not an association that supports other areas of model boating. If one digs deeper and goes to the members page, it does say it supports all other types of model boating. Then there is the membership fee, reasonable at GBP20, but if people are already paying club dues, and they already have insurance, what additional benefits does the MPBA offer for the money (quid pro quo).
I don't know the answer to these questions, but does the MPBA engage in PR/marketing activities and reach out to model boaters? or does it expect model boaters to seek them out?
Just my 2c
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: tigertiger on January 21, 2019, 01:52:40 am
One thought I had about shows and events in general. They are perhaps less relevant and needed than they used to be because many (not all) of the reasons people went to shows are serviced by the internet. The cost of progress maybe.


One major role/attraction of the shows was for people to be able to see what was new in the hobby. New tools, kits, gear, etc. It was also a chance to see what traders/suppliers were out there (the alternative was Yellow Pages for local suppliers) and what they sold, products that were not yet in your local model shop, as well as a chance to talk to them about their products.
For traders it was also a chance for them to get a feel for market and product developments, and speak to suppliers to see and chat about new offerings.


The internet has had a huge impact on these aspects. We can get email fliers from suppliers with updates. We can visit the websites of suppliers to see who has what, what is new, etc. If we have questions we can often email suppliers. We can trawl through forums, and find information from the comfort of our desk. Forums also provide the social function of people from different clubs and different parts of the country chatting.


I have seen a lot of comments over the years blaming suppliers, event organizers, costs, greed, modelers, computer games, etc. etc. It is easy to look for blame, and easy to forget that the world keeps turning. It is nice, and comfortable, to stand still but we will get left behind. The hardest part about adapting is knowing which way to go forward.


Just some additional thoughts.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 21, 2019, 07:48:33 pm
One thought I had about shows and events in general. They are perhaps less relevant and needed than they used to be because many (not all) of the reasons people went to shows are serviced by the internet. The cost of progress maybe.


One major role/attraction of the shows was for people to be able to see what was new in the hobby. New tools, kits, gear, etc. It was also a chance to see what traders/suppliers were out there (the alternative was Yellow Pages for local suppliers) and what they sold, products that were not yet in your local model shop, as well as a chance to talk to them about their products.
For traders it was also a chance for them to get a feel for market and product developments, and speak to suppliers to see and chat about new offerings.


The internet has had a huge impact on these aspects. We can get email fliers from suppliers with updates. We can visit the websites of suppliers to see who has what, what is new, etc. If we have questions we can often email suppliers. We can trawl through forums, and find information from the comfort of our desk. Forums also provide the social function of people from different clubs and different parts of the country chatting.


I have seen a lot of comments over the years blaming suppliers, event organizers, costs, greed, modelers, computer games, etc. etc. It is easy to look for blame, and easy to forget that the world keeps turning. It is nice, and comfortable, to stand still but we will get left behind. The hardest part about adapting is knowing which way to go forward.


Just some additional thoughts.


Very true, the world moves on, interests change, shows cannot stay the same if the lifeblood of these shows want something else from their events. We are mostly an active, on the water hobby, we mostly play in the summer. Most big shows shun sunshine, lurking in the autumn, winter, or if you are lucky early spring. The best shows I have attended over the years bask in sunshine. Plumpton, Sumners Ponds, the occasional Beale Park when it was held at a sensible time of year, Southern Model Show etc. I no longer want to look at rows of static models, guarded over by grumpy people, I want to be outside, I want to be free, I want to be a lumberjack........getting a bit off topic..
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 21, 2019, 07:58:01 pm
Actually at Warwick I did enjoy looking at the models on the club stands and admiring the workmanship. I also spent time talking to people on the stands and enjoyed the chats. Maybe I was missing something?!

People aren''t usually grumpy if they are approached in the right way although I accept there might be exceptions.
Bear in mind that these ancient stand guardians might be struggling with uncomfortable medical conditions!  :embarrassed:

My Wife remarked the other day when we were going out that I needed to wrap up to keep the wind out. I responded that at my age it was more of an issue keeping it in!

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 21, 2019, 10:12:15 pm
 
 {-) {-) ... in fine form this evening Colin!
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 21, 2019, 10:48:23 pm
Indeed Martin, we both laughed so much that I nearly crashed the car on a roundabout!

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: roycv on January 22, 2019, 05:45:30 am
Hi all, there are a lot of nuggets in the previous threads.  Numbers of visitors to create viability, size of venue and parking of cars, lots of activities, cost of Traders attending,  We organise our own general modelling show each year, we hire a school for the weekend.  This gives parking and green areas etc.  Because the organization is carried out by club members there is a 'profit' which supports club activities.  It would fail if we had to pay the going rate for workers.

We hit probably our maximum visitors last year at 2000 over the two days.  Beyond these numbers the 'workers' would down tools!  Our visitors are 80% local non-model making population, so specialised Traders are not going to do enough business.  We know that from 20 odd years ago, when a local model shop went home Saturday evening having done very little business. 

Our annual show has been going on for about 60 years now and has evolved from an almost static single club exhibition to embracing all local clubs who wish to attend and special fun things like MidAir, who I am told do twice the business they do at A.P.  We are like everyone else these days looking for new members but did not wish to poach from areas where there was already a thriving club, hence the other clubs presence.

We chose the timing as the beginning of the exhibition months but catching the last of the nice weather of the autumn.  Before I had a hand in dates we often hit the Cup Final in May.  As you can imagine there is a lot of effort behind the scenes, we sometimes say "was it worth it"? But when the weather is kind to us and the weekend arrives and the children are queueing for train rides and goes on the RC boats and flying newly constructed aeroplanes, we feel it is worth it.  I checked with one parent back in August last year and she said that the family come for both days!

We are at it again this year, entry £4 and £1 for age 5+.  same venue on 28th. 29th. September in St. Albans.
We work, it works and the key seems to be spreading the exhibition over the modelling spectrum.
Regards to all,
Roy









 
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: roycv on January 22, 2019, 09:10:02 am
Hi all, I forgot to put our new website address up.
http://stalbansmes.com/
It is very new and being added to all the time, it also has the club video that we were showing over the A.P. weekend.
regards Roy
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Arrow5 on January 22, 2019, 12:54:54 pm
No mention of the massive shows in Germany, how are they doing ?  Friedrichshafen for instance has five or six halls.  Plus the nearby Zeppelin Museum. Worth a Ryanair jaunt they land right at the exhibition site.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 22, 2019, 01:53:39 pm
No mention of the massive shows in Germany, how are they doing ?  Friedrichshafen for instance has five or six halls.  Plus the nearby Zeppelin Museum. Worth a Ryanair jaunt they land right at the exhibition site.



I think that Intermodellbau Dortmund has now lost the Thursday & it doesn't feel the show that it used to be.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Subculture on January 22, 2019, 02:56:14 pm
Germany retained a much greater chunk of industry than here in the UK, about 30% versus 11%. That has a knock on effect on hobbies that involve technical expertise.  Even still they've seen a marked reduction in manufacturing jobs as many parts of their industry have been moved to cheaper labour markets, former eastern block etc. This is starting to impact the hobby sector.

It hasn't been an overnight transformation, it's taken us thirty or forty years to get where we are today.  In the early '90's in my part of North London, there used to be small companies employing lots of people in the making things. Within ten years they'd pretty much all gone, the work moved overseas, and the plots replaced by housing, offices and retail.

These days we seem to have ten people instructing one person how to dig a hole, then they wonder why as a country we have low productivity.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 22, 2019, 03:52:06 pm
No mention of the massive shows in Germany, how are they doing ?  Friedrichshafen for instance has five or six halls.  Plus the nearby Zeppelin Museum. Worth a Ryanair jaunt they land right at the exhibition site.




I have never been to Friedrichshafen so how does it compare with Intermodellbau at Dortmund? Are there others?


The nearest Ryanair airport appears to be Memmingen which is 100km away - unless I have got it wrong.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Arrow5 on January 22, 2019, 06:49:40 pm
Ryanair must have found cheaper landing fees at Memmingen, or maybe too many NT Zeps in the way.  The area is on the Bodensee ( Lake Constance)  with some interesting boats and ferries.. Been a few years since I was there. I haven't been to Dortmund, might give it a try this Spring.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: coch y bonddu on January 22, 2019, 07:32:47 pm
Personally I think this has ran it's course and We should NOT BE putting any show down this simply causes shows to crumble,Yes of course the attendance could very well be down not only on the door but clubs and displays as well BUT  we are going over the same old same old everyone wants different things out a show...NO show organiser on earth can please everybody and that's a fact...some want a pool others don't some want to just see models on stands and others all they want is to see them sailing...No show organiser can get all the traders in one venue.
When we send out invitations out for Blackpool it is up the traders who want to attend that come,we can NOT twist their arms to come if they don't want to.It does not matter a hoot even though you put a show on in the middle of the UK  wherever that might be.....OK for some and NOT for others.


It is simply impossible to put on a perfect show in the perfect place as it will simply be no good for some,and lets be realistic there is NO perfect show absolutely impossible.....All we can do is to try our best




Dave
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: big_bri on January 22, 2019, 07:53:35 pm
I certainly don't think its run its course. I, along with probably some others, have just gained some good information about the Friedrichshafen show in Germany , I am very interested in looking more into this show, along with the St Albans event.
Any excuse for a few days away with the lads  :-)) 

Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Tug Fanatic on January 22, 2019, 08:18:42 pm

Dave


If you think that I was putting Dortmund down I can only apologize. It is still the best model show that I have been to for a lot of every type of modelling. Like so many others it unfortunately does seem to either have to accept getting smaller or to come up with something that reattracts whoever/whatever it is that is causing it to get shorter. That doesn't alter the fact that it is still an experience that I simply don't get anywhere else. I can't go this year but next year I will be back.


Now as to Friedrichshafen...……………


Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 22, 2019, 08:31:40 pm
Going back a few posts as I have been out today, I have to express my admiration for Roy and the St Albans Club at what they have and continue to achieve in promoting modelling on a non commercial basis. They are an example to us all. I fully appreciate all the voluntary effort that goes into staging it and they obviously have a well established routine to keep things moving from year to year.

I think the last time I attended a St Albans Regatta was back in 1984 as part of the MPBA competition but I will try and make the effort to get along this year to support the event ven if it does entail driving half way round the M25!

Colin
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Klunk on January 23, 2019, 01:48:37 am
Going back a few posts as I have been out today, I have to express my admiration for Roy and the St Albans Club at what they have and continue to achieve in promoting modelling on a non commercial basis. They are an example to us all. I fully appreciate all the voluntary effort that goes into staging it and they obviously have a well established routine to keep things moving from year to year.

I think the last time I attended a St Albans Regatta was back in 1984 as part of the MPBA competition but I will try and make the effort to get along this year to support the event ven if it does entail driving half way round the M25!

Colin

Colin, you should really try to attend this year. In the last 15 years, I have seen this show grow, it now encompasses boats, trains, steam, rc flying and drones, virtual flying, meccano, slot cars (hopefully again this year!) free flight models for kids (they do a roaring trade), rc trucks a fantastic cake area (dont tell Roy, he gets upset if you eat his cake.....ps Roy....any chance of proper bread pudding this year??) when I describe the show, I say its designed for kids from 3 years old to 100! As far as I am concerned, a lot of large shows could learn a lot from the total diversity of modelling on show. Does it have trade stands? no, that would totally change the way the show operates. the whole show is very hands on with have a go boats, free flight, vr flight, ho railways, slot cars and stream trains to ride on.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Klunk on January 23, 2019, 01:49:05 am
ps i forgot meccano!!!!!!
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Plastic - RIP on January 23, 2019, 07:58:01 am
I have to agree with Klunk - the St Albans show is great - really has something for everyone.  :-))
I like the way that there is almost everything covered from the meccano, plastic models, the 1/1250 ship modellers, RC models of every type, steam and engineering.
The live displays are good too - the model boats, trucks, planes & drones are very cool.
It might benefit from a couple of suppliers turning up with things to buy - but I'm not really sure they could make a profit with such a varied set of attendees - I suspect they are mostly 'lookers' rather than buyers.
I got to drive one of the RC trucks at the last one which was interesting - not sure I can afford one of those.
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 23, 2019, 05:20:56 pm
POST EVENT PRESS RELEASE

LONDON MODEL ENGINEERING EXHIBITION 2019

 
Visitors from far and wide flocked to Alexandra Palace last weekend (18th – 20th January 2019) to attend the 23rd annual London Model Engineering Exhibition.

As always, the exhibition showcased the full spectrum of modelling and was packed with over 2,000 models from traditional model engineering, steam locomotives, traction engines and railway layouts, to collections of scale model ships and warships, right through to modern remote-control trucks and aeroplanes. Visitors were able to travel between the show’s different zones, trying out different ‘hands-on’ activities and watching technical demonstrations.

Nearly 50 clubs and societies at the exhibition competed to win the prestigious Society Shield which is voted for by the clubs and societies themselves.  The winner was Chelmsford Society of Model Engineers. In 2nd place was the West London Meccano Society and in 3rd place Maidstone Model Engineering Society.

Core model engineering clubs presented some fantastic displays and members were on hand to talk to visitors and encourage them along with their own projects and builds. Whilst over 51 key trade suppliers provided previews and promotions giving hobbyists an excellent opportunity to see and compare products under one roof.

Exhibition Manager, Avril Spence commented “This year we wanted to celebrate the past, present and future of modelling and with all of our exhibitors’ efforts that is exactly what we achieved.  This annual event is regarded as the leading show of its kind in terms of size, content and attendance and it’s thanks to the continued support of the exhibitors, clubs, societies and specialist suppliers that make it possible. A huge thank-you also, to all the visitors who travel far and wide to attend the event, many of whom return year after year. We are looking forward to returning to Alexandra Place next year from the Friday 17th to Sunday 19th January 2020”.

In the meantime, the next Model Engineering Exhibition presented by Meridienne Exhibition will be the Midlands Model Engineering Exhibition which takes place from Thursday 17th – Sunday 20th October 2019 at the Warwickshire Event Centre in Leamington Spa. For further details, please visit: www.midlandsmodelengineering.co.uk


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Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 23, 2019, 05:22:29 pm
I have to agree with Klunk - the St Albans show is great - really has something for everyone.  :-))
I like the way that there is almost everything covered from the meccano, plastic models, the 1/1250 ship modellers, RC models of every type, steam and engineering.
The live displays are good too - the model boats, trucks, planes & drones are very cool.
It might benefit from a couple of suppliers turning up with things to buy - but I'm not really sure they could make a profit with such a varied set of attendees - I suspect they are mostly 'lookers' rather than buyers.
I got to drive one of the RC trucks at the last one which was interesting - not sure I can afford one of those.


Yep, I really like the 'tone' of St Albans show!


Photos from 2018 - https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60408.msg651948.html#msg651948
Title: Re: London Model Engineering Exhibition - 2019
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 23, 2019, 06:13:03 pm
Well that seems to scotch the rumour that the show will not continue. They must be making enough to cover the rent!

Colin