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Title: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 06, 2019, 08:47:26 pm: A Date for your Diary :-)) :-)) :-))

Competition entry forms (available on our Download page)

www.modelboatconvention.co.uk/Convention_Documents.html (http://www.modelboatconvention.co.uk/Convention_Documents.html)

Please note that these need to be in the
Secretary’s hands by the 8th August 2019 in order that the necessary preparation of judging forms can bedone for the judges.
For Junior boat builders please note the age of the competitor on the form.
Entries will not be accepted at the event so please ensure that your members who wish to enter boats have the necessary paperwork.
Please note that all paperwork has / will be sent to your Club Secretary or person responsible for events.

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Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Fastfaz on August 01, 2019, 02:26:31 pm: Does anyone know what the charge is to put an item for sale on the bring n buy stand?
Cheers,
Pete. :-))
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: slinger on August 01, 2019, 08:18:48 pm: For the Bring & Buy there will be a daily charge of six pounds (payable in advance on the day) and for items less than £20 in value £1 per day.

Graham
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Fastfaz on August 02, 2019, 09:08:58 pm: That seems at but steep when most other shows are £3 an item or a small percentage of the sale price usually going to the RNLI or similar charity.
Regards, Pete <:(
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: red181 on August 17, 2019, 03:54:34 pm: Quote
That seems at but steep

£1 is a bit steep?
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 19, 2019, 07:41:27 pm: The Model Boat Convention
Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th of August 2019
at
Haydock Park Racecourse
Newton-le-Willows
WA12 0HQ

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Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: timg on August 19, 2019, 10:51:15 pm: Hi all
Does anyone know if Models by Design will be there?

Thanks
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Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Skimmer Fan on August 20, 2019, 10:49:22 am: It does not look likely.
http://www.modelboatconvention.co.uk/Convention_Traders.html
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: timg on August 20, 2019, 11:44:09 pm: Hi skimmer fan,

Thanks, i did see the list , but wasn't sure if it was up to date , I haven't been to this show before , hopefully I can get there over the weekend.

Cheers
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Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: boat captain on August 21, 2019, 08:44:37 am: Andy Grigg of models by design are not attending as he is not well enough.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Welsh Wizard! on August 26, 2019, 09:33:39 am: Very disappointing Show!
I’ve been travelling up to haydock Park for the last 6-7 years as I’ve classed it as being one of the best shows you could go to through the year. I drove up and back yesterday which took me about 4hrs there and 4hrs back to find out the show was a empty!
The show was at least 50% smaller than previous shows I’ve attended there over the years, loads of model boat club stands missing showing off there boats and only a handful of traders which it what everybody goes there for to stock up on some goodies, I spoke to a few traders I know very well and they hadn’t even covered their costs, which is not good the Bring a buy stall tables were empty as of previous years the tables were jam packed with boats and items for sale.
Personally i can’t see the show running again as they wouldn’t have even covered the costs of hiring the venue for the weekend which is real shame to see yet another, what was one of the best shows disappear of the calendar.
Dave.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 26, 2019, 10:12:04 am: A few snaps that I took of things that caught my eye while wandering round.

I hope that the Convention can bounce back.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Netleyned on August 26, 2019, 10:31:21 am: Nice model Coke can and Mobile Phone :embarrassed:
Ned
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 26, 2019, 10:51:15 am: I spoke to the organisers who agreed that the show is much smaller than it used to be although, having not visited before, I enjoyed it myself.
There can be little doubt that over the last three years there has been a major collapse in support for model boating events with some notable local exceptions.
We have discussed this before and the reasons are pretty clear. The model boating community is ageing fast and this affecting clubs and traders alike. Clubs find it difficult to put in the effort to stage exhibitions and stands and many long standing traders are retiring or downsizing on grounds of age or ill health. Well known larger suppliers have gone out of business or been taken over as the market can no longer support them. We still have smaller niche traders but they now tend to rely on internet sales as attending shows is too expensive. Deans and MMM have resorted to staging their own events to keep costs down while still making their products available to see and touch. Maybe that is now the future as they also accommodate smaller traders.

Like it or not, the upcoming generations are simply not very interested in the hobby as they have other more up to date options available. Once upon a time lots of people were into pond yachts but you won't see many about now.
I'm afraid the hobby will continue to decline but I must admit to being surprised at just how fast this now appears to be happening.
And, as a postscript, it took me nearly 7 hours to get to Haydock on Friday as the motorways were a nightmare, dozens or miles of roadworks, accidents, broken down vehicles and general congestion. Luckily the return on Saturday was just 4 hours but you do think twice about travelling in those conditions,

Colin
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: john44 on August 26, 2019, 10:59:42 am: Must admit,Haydock this year, very disappointed, I doubt if the organisers will run
The event again next year as no one can afford to run at a loss.
It's a shame such a beautiful venue good location. Lack of visitors wich seems to
be the trend of boat shows just lately.
I heard Models by Design Andy Grigg was not well, I wish him a very speedy recovery
And everything goes well in the future.
See you at Blackpool hopefully.

John
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Tug Fanatic on August 26, 2019, 07:39:46 pm: This is a self fulfilling prophecy.

A show gets smaller so more people decide that it is not worth attending which makes the next show smaller so even more don't bother etc etc etc.

It might not be that the hobby itself that is collapsing quickly but rather that show attendance is collapsing.

I await Blackpool & Kenilworth.

Even Dortmund isn't what it used to be.

For me manufacturers holding their own shows is not the answer. I want to see a lot of them all together rather than spread around the country. It isn't worth traveling hundreds of miles, often to a location in the middle of nowhere (so no public transport), to see one manufacturer.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 26, 2019, 08:05:17 pm: Ah, but why does it get smaller in the first place? Chicken and Egg I think. I agree that once a decline sets in it tends to snowball but the root issue is why it starts to decline initially and we are back to an ageing model boating profile which is simply not renewing itself.

Colin
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: raflaunches on August 26, 2019, 08:16:10 pm: On Saturday myself, my Dad and our club secretary paid our first visit to Haydock and we enjoyed ourselves a lot. Since we had no comparison to previous shows we were very impressed with the quality of the models on show and of course we met up with some of the usual faces from Mayhem and others that I know personally. It was great to chat with all three Colins- Colin Bishop (always enjoy our chats), Colin Vass (stunning models of Warspite and Zara) and Colin Miller (our Scottish Contingent) with Capt Ron and Big Bri.
Whilst it tooks us 2.5 hours to get there, which wasn't too bad compared to some others and the traffic was very kind. It reminded me of my first model show I visited 16 years ago- loads of rooms that you found as you went along- it was all very exciting as we didn't have a map of the layout and we didn't know what you were going to see until you entered the room.
Despite being fewer traders being present due to various reasons I still managed to get everything I had on my wish list. And seeing some of the spectacular models on display both complete and under construction- my favourite had to be the HMS Goliath 'steampunk styled' battleship.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Tug Fanatic on August 26, 2019, 10:50:10 pm: Quote from: Colin Bishop on August 26, 2019, 08:05:17 pm
Ah, but why does it get smaller in the first place? Chicken and Egg I think. I agree that once a decline sets in it tends to snowball but the root issue is why it starts to decline initially and we are back to an ageing model boating profile which is simply not renewing itself.

Colin

I agree with all that but I was offering a possible explanation for why the decline is much quicker than you expected & accelerating (your previous post). I, for one, won't be traveling very far for shows in the near future - which probably means never again.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: gingyer on August 27, 2019, 06:44:07 pm: It was good to have a catch up with Nick and Co especially after missing Wickstead this year :-))

I was at the show with the Scottish Model Warship Assoc. and it was great to win the best stand award this year.
We have along with others displayed at this show for numerous year and numbers were going down but this year was extremely poor with regards to visitors and it was sad especially given the effort the organisers, clubs and traders put into it all
As was mentioned to me at the weekend the old saying if you don't use it, you loose it is coming into force and to all us modellers it looks like we have lost another good show.

Colin Bishop has made some very valid points, I want to highlight something else and that was the consistent lies and rumours that were put about.
since the organisers had the falling out with Mark Williams from a model world they have been plagued with this problem.
there were rumour/reports every year the show had been canceled or that so many traders/clubs were not attending every year it was the same old rubbish
Last year I had a friend contact me as he was displaying but had a message that it was all canceled and asked if I had heard anything before contacting the organisers again it was all rubbish.
why people go out of their way to do this is beyond me and things like that DO NOT help anyone in this hobby it is perhaps one of the saddest things is that there is people out there who will be happy to hear this show is no more.

The Model Boat Convention was a great show and if it doesn't come back it will be missed and it will take something special to replace it.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: david5 on August 27, 2019, 06:50:39 pm: Totally agree Colin, couldn’t put it better myself.
The work Jean,Arthur et al put into it was exceptional, must be the best organised show we have had, we can only hope there is a future for it.

David5
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: cos918 on August 27, 2019, 08:00:08 pm: One thing show orginser should consider is timming of the show.
Summer hoildays people are away . Then to put it on a summer bank hoilday is madness. A lot of people will have made other plans see friends family things etc . The traffic is always bad on summer bank hoildays. Had they pushed the show back one weekend to this weekend comming. I would have said more people would be avaible to exibite and more people would be able and willing to travel.
Just thoughts .
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 27, 2019, 08:09:09 pm: You could say the same about the Mayhem meeting. The drive up on the Friday from Guildford was an utter nightmare. Took even longer than getting to Haydock although only half the distance.

It does put you off.

Colin
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: cos918 on August 27, 2019, 08:28:36 pm: Quote from: Colin Bishop on August 27, 2019, 08:09:09 pm
You could say the same about the Mayhem meeting. The drive up on the Friday from Guildford was an utter nightmare. Took even longer than getting to Haydock although only half the distance.

It does put you off.

Colin
True but more people go away in August than May. Also they are very diffrent shows. People throught the gate is not cruitail at Mayhem but nice. At other shows were venues are booked and payed for people through the gate is the making or breaking of the show .
John
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 27, 2019, 08:36:59 pm: Fair point John.

Colin
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Subculture on August 27, 2019, 08:41:35 pm: Things rarely decline overnight. My observation is that participation in model boating has been in decline for at least thirty years, having reached a high watermark in the early to mid eighties, but it's starting to become more pronounced as many who were participating back then are now in advanced years or no longer with us.

To get a younger crowd involved requires informal events where the emphasis is on enjoying yourself.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 27, 2019, 09:45:18 pm: Quote from: cos918 on August 27, 2019, 08:00:08 pm
One thing show orginser should consider is timming of the show.
Summer hoildays people are away . Then to put it on a summer bank hoilday is madness. A lot of people will have made other plans see friends family things etc . The traffic is always bad on summer bank hoildays. Had they pushed the show back one weekend to this weekend comming. I would have said more people would be avaible to exibite and more people would be able and willing to travel.
Just thoughts .

Think it has been this weekend for 30 years., or at least a vast majority of them.
Title: Re: The Model Boat Convention 2019 - 30th Anniversary
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 27, 2019, 10:25:43 pm: Yes that is true. But the reason I have never previously attended is due to family commitments over the Bank Holiday.

Whilst I did enjoy the show this year, the horrendous traffic would put me off in future.

Colin