Model Boat Mayhem
Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Painting, Finishing and Care. => Topic started by: Rodgearing on June 26, 2019, 08:30:09 am
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What is the concensus on paint brands?
Humbrol seemed to be the paint of choice and now albeit you can still get Humbrol there seem more on the market.
So whats your choice have you a brand you would swear by?
I'm trying to find a decent white so my choice would be Humbrol 22 white gloss. Try and get a biggish (120 ml) tin of this is a nightmare.
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Halfords car paint works well, Jawal paints if you want tins rather than aerosols. Prefer solvent based acrylics to oil paints. Fast drying and tougher. Oils are good for weathering etc.
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TETROSYL for me, had my fill of Halfords . . .
HYCOTE seems to be much improved now tho' I've not used it on largish areas to date . . .
Bill
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Interesting. Not had any issues with Halfords paint. It’s made by the same company as the Hycote brand btw- J Briggs Ltd
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Thanks but Hycote are in spray cans I was after paint in tins. Unless of course you know bettter
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I just use my local auto paint factory, they do any colour in 1lt tin or 500ml aerosol, and if I ask nicely that could do then in matt.
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Hi Airfix tins was great a few years back but after the fire at the Marfleet plant in Hull years ago the pain become crap in my view as it was then made in china am lucky I still have a full range of the old tins so if you can find a old model shop and see any dusty tins grab them might be the better older stuff.
Regards Howard.
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I suggested Jawal paints for tins. they trade on ebay, and also have an online store.
https://www.jawel.co.uk/
https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/jawelpaints/cellulose-paint-500ml/_i.html?_storecat=24908878018
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Even if you are just looking at tins then you need to distinguish between enamel and acrylic. The traditional Humbrol range is enamel but most other 'pot' paints now are acrylic. You can use either (but preferably not both together). The acrylics will probably need more protection for a working model as they are most commonly used on plactic kits either by brush or airbrush application.
You don't say what you will be using the paint on or what for and it would be helpful to know this so that you an be given appropriate advice.
Colin
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Great deal of misuse of the acrylic term. There are artists acrylic, solvent based acrylics (cellulose type paint), model acrylics which can be solvent or water based. Bit of a minefield for the unwary.
For working models I like solvent based car paints, as they dry quick and are tough.
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For working models I like solvent based car paints, as they dry quick and are tough
Yes, I agree, but the OP clearly stated he wanted to use tins and not aerosols!
So best to ask him why.
Colin
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You can buy car paint in tins, it only tends to be sold in aerosols for diy refinishing. Buying in aerosols is the most expensive way to purchase paint, I only use aerosols for patterning work where I need a quick flash of paint to check my work for defects.
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Yes, but most people only consider the more obvious alternatives.
Colin
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Isn't that the idea of this thread, to highlight the less obvious?
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Up to a point but I think people prefer the more obvious commercial alternatives.
Better to just buy something off the shelf rather than have to organise something via a local paint supplier.
Colin
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I should think most things model related need to be ordered these days. I'm in London where there used to be at least half a dozen model shops within five miles from my door. now there is just Hannants open a two or three days a week, with a very limited range of paints in store. Order off ebay, it's there within a day or two at most. Halfords also sell some colours in tins btw.
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I live down in West Surrey near the Sussex border and am fortunate enough to be able to visit Squires at Bognor, less than an hour away, who have a huge selection of paint in tins.
Colin
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The original poster asked what paints we use, and where he could get a decent white.
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depending on where the white paint is to be used, ie railings as opposed to a complete hull, I use GW/Citadel paints. for hulls, consider using tile paint, or for colours garage floor paint (black, grey, green and blue).
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If you specifically want Tins remember there's the plastikote range from DIY stores or hobbycraft. If you're lucky they might have old stock of oil based, I don't rate their new water based 'enamels" though. I tried a tin of white last year and it was a bit inconsistent. Ended up only using it to waterproof inside of a wooden hull in the end, very strange stuff to use.
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I make thoroughly researched historic (and modern) colour enamels in 14ml and 125ml.
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For the last few weeks I've been experimenting with Vallejo air acrylics. Now I know that Brian out in Spain has been using this paint for some time so I thought that I would give it a try.
Firstly the coverage is quite amazing! I have found that the tiniest amount of paint gives the true colour without any primer. I have also found it to be very tough. It seems quite hard to scratch and remove and I also like the easy water clean up. It doesn't seem hide any of the details either. I have found though that it does need thinning as its too thick straight out of the bottle.
I would guess that it would just need a decent waterproof matt clear coat over the top. Its probably one of the nicest acrylics that I've sprayed but I don't know about its longevity or if it reacts badly with other paints.
So far so good
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Hi I have used most of the above but do like Humbrol. I was using number 22 white (50 ml.) 2 days ago the tin was down to no more than a third left. When I put the lid on the price was still on there, 99p!!! So they keep quite well as well. I have a stash of 6 unused white No 22, but they cost rather more!
regards Roy
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Hi Folks
My brother is painting a 1:20 Mk2 Escort Rallycar and was looking at Tamiya acrylics but he came across these but I just wanted to check if they were the same type.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Creative-Pigments-Crafts-Projects/dp/B0798NBQFD (https://www.amazon.co.uk/TBC-Creative-Pigments-Crafts-Projects/dp/B0798NBQFD)
Views greatly appreciated
Declan
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Tamiya can be readily used with an airbrush. These paints are described as thick so would need to be thinned for airbrush use. These look like they are intended for arts and craft work. Unless you want the range of colours I'd stick with Tamiya.
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Cheers dougal99
I’ll let him know. I have ordered up relevant Tamiya paints but as I wasn’t sure if these particular paints could be used I thought I ask here.
If he wants the range of colours, I can get them for him and he can try them on scrap bits of plastic to see how they fair out plus I’ll add in some thinners to the order :-))
Declan
Tamiya can be readily used with an airbrush. These paints are described as thick so would need to be thinned for airbrush use. These look like they are intended for arts and craft work. Unless you want the range of colours I'd stick with Tamiya.
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This supplier is worth a loom for smaller amounts. Thinned for airbrush use, they'll mix any colour although most will find the colour they need from their standard ranges- very extensive.
https://www.zero-paints.com/
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Cheers
That a good site as it has specific colours for both the MK1 & 2 Escort
Declan
This supplier is worth a loom for smaller amounts. Thinned for airbrush use, they'll mix any colour although most will find the colour they need from their standard ranges- very extensive.
https://www.zero-paints.com/ (https://www.zero-paints.com/)
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Hi Declan,
I can recommend zero-paints as well. I have used them for several of my car kits, super quality! You will need a gloss varnish, as the paints are matte. Better use a face mask when spraying them, my ladies always complain about the smell that evaporates from my workshop....Their varnish hardens perfectly, you cannot make a dent with your fingernail when dried. That is the reason why I decided not to use Tamiya acrylics on car bodies any more.
Hope this helps and please send a photo later!
Cheers,
Arno
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Cheers guys.
Zero-paints I go! :-))
Declan
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This is my Alfa Romeo TZ 1 Targa Florio 1964, a MFH 1/24th kit painted with zero-paints as follows:
- primer light grey
- two layers of base-coat Alfa red
- tack coat of high gloss top-coat
- apply waterslide decals
- final layer of high gloss top-coat
The surface gets very even in the end, you will not have the 'sticker-effect' with the decals. Hiroboy have a tutorial on their website, worked a treat for me.