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Title: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Blaven03 on August 13, 2020, 09:58:48 pm
Hello,


Hope every1 well in current climate?


Has any1 got any suggesting for a good adhesive to bond materials to vac formed hulls (Parat Hull).


Any help appreciated.


Cheers
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 13, 2020, 10:24:51 pm
 
Stabilit Express
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: spearfish99 on August 14, 2020, 08:23:00 pm
Agree with Martin. It is what Graupner advised for building all their moulded kits and works very well. It is a bit pricey though and comes as 2 parts which have to be mixed into a paste before use. While not as convenient as some it does work.  I have also been introduced to a superglue recently ( hate the stuff normally as I am the only thing most of them seem to stick to anything) which seems to work very well on plastics. It is Screwfix's " No Nonsense" . I have been trying it on 3D printed plastic parts which can be very tricky to fix and it works well , particularly on the ABS filament bits.

Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Capt Podge on August 14, 2020, 08:28:22 pm
Whatever you decide to use - be sure to roughen the surfaces to be glued, this gives the glue a surface to grab on.


Regards,
Ray.
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: RST on August 14, 2020, 08:44:37 pm
I got to ask what are the materials (not sure what is used for Parat)?  ABS or PS to the same material then solvent such as MEK / Limonene / Dichloromethane as sold in the Tamiya / EMA etc. bottles, rather than any plastic "cement" from Humbrol or Revell etc. or other "adhesive", is a complete no-brainer.  For plastic to something else, or to fill gaps then you have to use some form of bonding / cement.  I like the aforementioned Stabilit Express also (often called Stability Express now).  I've not had cause to use the "no more nails" / "stixall" / "sticks like s***t" stuff yet, particularly as it's sold in such big tubes compared to what I need but not to say it's no good for some folk in other applications.  As other said though, whatever you use: always rough up surfaces as far as possible and de-grease for best results.


Rich
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 15, 2020, 12:25:44 am
Agree with Martin. It is what Graupner advised for building all their moulded kits and works very well. It is a bit pricey though and comes as 2 parts which have to be mixed into a paste before use. While not as convenient as some it does work.  I have also been introduced to a superglue recently ( hate the stuff normally as I am the only thing most of them seem to stick to anything) which seems to work very well on plastics. It is Screwfix's " No Nonsense" . I have been trying it on 3D printed plastic parts which can be very tricky to fix and it works well , particularly on the ABS filament bits.

This stuff?   - https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-solvented-grab-adhesive-350ml/7454d

(https://media.screwfix.com/is/image//ae235?src=ae235/7454D_P&$prodImageMedium$)
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: spearfish99 on August 15, 2020, 12:29:53 am
No, this
https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-superglue-50g/79181 (https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-superglue-50g/79181)
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Blaven03 on August 15, 2020, 08:11:35 am
Good Morning,


Thanks very much for input.


The hull of Parat is fairly thin and flimsy. The plan is to mount another base at the bottom internally (probably a hard nylon plastic) to make a rigid base to fit Units and skeg to. Just wasn’t sure best adhesive.


Regards DJ
Title: Re: Best for bonding to vac formed hulls
Post by: Stan on August 16, 2020, 07:44:39 pm
Buy a tube of Everbuild Stixall or Evostick sticks like sh--t .Both of these wiil do the job