Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: raflaunches on December 23, 2020, 08:54:27 pm
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I bought a helicopter cruiser conversion of HMS Tiger back in June just after the first lockdown. I’ve always liked the ugly duckling that many consider her to be but I like the oddness of her!
This particular model does have a rather complicated past and will remain there as she has now come into the light!
Needless to say she is an old model and did have a glaring issue with one piece of detail- the bridge had the wrong amount of windows, not enough of them on the upper bridge. So taking advantage of cyber Friday deals on Shapeways I bought a replacement bridge structure which looks amazing when slotted into place.
She still needs a fair amount of work doing but the bridge is off the to do list!
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I bought a helicopter cruiser conversion of HMS Tiger back in June just after the first lockdown. I’ve always liked the ugly duckling that many consider her to be but I like the oddness of her!
This particular model does have a rather complicated past and will remain there as she has now come into the light!
Needless to say she is an old model and did have a glaring issue with one piece of detail- the bridge had the wrong amount of windows, not enough of them on the upper bridge. So taking advantage of cyber Friday deals on Shapeways I bought a replacement bridge structure which looks amazing when slotted into place.
She still needs a fair amount of work doing but the bridge is off the to do list!
HI CHRIS HERE IM building the 1/72 scale model of her an hope to see your model come to fruitation as yes i like you liked the oddness of her to being something different an im about halfway through my build an im now hopeing to fit some more linkpics of her on my thread an i look forward to seeing your model build
ATB chris
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Hope this pic is not too blurry, it was a very foggy day when I watched her being towed away for scrap. It was really sad to see our last cruiser going, even with that aft addition I still thought they were imposing vessel, shame she did not last enough to participate in the Falklands war, she would have proved an asset.
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Dodes
Out of interest both her an Blake were brought in for surveying to to deploy down south. It was not proposed to use them for their 6" guns but rather as an intermediate landing pad, to help keep the carriers out of the range of the Argentina air force. Tiger was found to be in good condition considering she had been out of use for a long time, in the end the decision was taken that to loose a ship her size and with a large crew would be politically unacceptable. A similar plan was also envisaged for the ex HMS Hermes
Bob
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Thanks for the info, I was thinking of her 3" A.A guns more though. But I should have imagine also manning her would have been difficult then, the large crew etc. When you think that the type 23 down there had 16 heavy machine gun bullets from a plane chopped her main wiring armature/channeling an she ended up as a fast grey target with 2 X 20mm machine guns.
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Wonderful looking new bridge. What would we do and where would we be without Shapeways and 3D printing?
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Thanks for the info, I was thinking of her 3" A.A guns more though. But I should have imagine also manning her would have been difficult then, the large crew etc. When you think that the type 23 down there had 16 heavy machine gun bullets from a plane chopped her main wiring armature/channeling an she ended up as a fast grey target with 2 X 20mm machine guns.
T 22 I think, you mean, first T23 not commissioned till 1989 :-)) was that HMS Brilliant, as she took cannon fire into her ops room, some back operational though. Good image of the damage is shown in the book Harrier 809
Bob
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Wonderful looking new bridge. What would we do and where would we be without Shapeways and 3D printing?
Carry on scratch building, the Tiger bridge was not that bad to build, and having access to the actual ship made it a lot easier to understand
Bob
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Yes sorry, 22 and Brilliant. Thought the name was appropriate. The story came to me from service personnel who knew alot about what went on, not the sanatised official P/R.
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Just to add a little to this thread, the original main armament was 4 six inch guns which may not sound a lot but believe they were automatic so had an exceptional high rate of fire very much more than Belfast with 12 six inch guns. Rate of fire with modern weapons counts for a lot!
I used to have a model of Tiger as a child - Eagle I think produced it to an odd scale so it was quite large! I still have an original Royal Sovereign again I think by Eagle.
Cheers
Geoff
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Geoff
Fully auto as you along with the 3" but never worked 100% through the ships life, when they did it was awesome especially the 3". Search Navy get Tiger og You tube, great film of them firing
Bob
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HI Geoff an Bob so you both say the guns on tiger were auto then so what was the rate of fire for the 6 inch guns an the 3 inch guns ? an can anyone answer this qeustion when i was young i had a airfix model of her an on the front funnell there was a red an white badge any one got a photo of it or was it airfix tryin to make the ship more flashier on the box art ?
chris
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Chris
6" 20rpm 3" 90-120 rpm
Bob
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Chris
6" 20rpm 3" 90-120 rpm
Bob
CHEERS Bob for info but what about the badge on the front funnell ?
chris
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Navy Gets 'tiger' (1959) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M)
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CHEERS Bob for info but what about the badge on the front funnell ?
chris
Wait out on that Chris, checking it out
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Wait out on that Chris, checking it out
Chris it seems that people memories from then are a bit clouded, but it seems it MAY have been a squadron badge, if so it did not last long and there is no recorded image of her wearing it again. One lady had that model with the red and white on her wedding cake and till has it today
Bob
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BOB could you put this on my thread as i dont want to take over this 1/96 scale thread an the tiger utube vid please
chris :-))
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A 6inch gun firing that fast! Amazing. It must have put the system under some stress as those are big rounds and need some popping out. I wonder if there was a maximum number of rounds they could fire before they needed to stop and cool down? I can understand the captain knowing when the fire mission has done it's work and would stop blazing away wastefully.
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HI is anything happening on this model at all ?
chris
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Hi Chris
Hopefully next week I’ll be playing with the smaller Tiger- managed to sneak some leave in at the last minute as I have been told that I have too much accumulated! It’s at my home address and I work at Brize Norton on 47 Sqn during the week living on the airfield barrack blocks- definitely wouldn’t fit through my door or sit on the table in my room! :}
Last few weeks have been hectic trying to get aircraft serviceable to help out country wide and globally.
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OH GREAT Nick lookin forward to seeing this progress will there be apart from motors will there be any working features ? on it
chris ps enjoy your leave with a modeling leave lol
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Hi Chris
It will be hopefully a nice relaxing week model making :}
My Tiger will hopefully have working lights, radar rotating, and hopefully traversable turrets. Going to fit smoke foggy units for a bit of atmosphere.
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OH GREAT Nick lookin forward to this
chris :-))
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HI Nick anything happening on this build ?
chris
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Hi Chris
I started the rebuild of the smaller Tiger but I discovered that the original hull was measuring up with various problems. When I checked I found that the bow was twisted off to starboard and the keel was hogging. When I bought the model a Scale Warships hull was included so I’m in the process of transferring parts and measuring the cutouts in the stern despite some anomalies I have lined up the superstructure and where I need to cut the excess material. On a positive note I have bought a ships crest for the stand for when she is finished. Hopefully some visible changes will be seen very soon.
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Nick
Be very careful with that hull, I had one and had to move all the stern openings, block them off and then re cut new ones.
Bob
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Hi Bob
That’s what I’m discovering as it looks wrong and the pictures and limited plans show the hull to be wrong. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
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HI Nick will this build get built now you are workin on the battle ship ?
chris
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Hi Chris
It’s my dad who is building the Glorious- that’ll keep him occupied for about a year before it gets any where near my greasy mitts! ok2
I’ve been playing with mini Tiger making my brain hurt since nothing matches up with the drawing or pictures. I have made the decision to completely remove the supposed cutouts on the aft section with a mini sander and cut out my own as I can’t get the GRP hull to match up with anything.
I know that the Jecobin plans aren’t 100% but they are closer than the hull! So grinding on Friday morning to flatten out the wrong cutouts and mark out my version using the plans.
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OK Nick lookin forward to some progress
chris :-))
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Hi Chris
It’s my dad who is building the Glorious- that’ll keep him occupied for about a year before it gets any where near my greasy mitts! ok2
I’ve been playing with mini Tiger making my brain hurt since nothing matches up with the drawing or pictures. I have made the decision to completely remove the supposed cutouts on the aft section with a mini sander and cut out my own as I can’t get the GRP hull to match up with anything.
I know that the Jecobin plans aren’t 100% but they are closer than the hull! So grinding on Friday morning to flatten out the wrong cutouts and mark out my version using the plans.
As I said earlier Nick, the hull is wrong, and you are doing exactly what i did, sad thing is I told them this but never recievd a reply, the way I found to be accurate was to check against a good side view of her then mark n cut.
Bob
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HI Whats happening on this splendid model ?
chris