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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: rayl on February 18, 2021, 06:43:59 pm

Title: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: rayl on February 18, 2021, 06:43:59 pm
I have seen the term "Cardstock" used often, but what is really?  Is it sheet styrene(?), Strathmore board(?), cardboard?  Enquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: dougal99 on February 18, 2021, 07:49:46 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_stock  :-))
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: tonyH on February 19, 2021, 09:21:13 am
Or cornflake packets if you're pragmatic about boats! ;)
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: DavieTait on February 19, 2021, 10:28:19 am
Frosties or Crunchy Nut boxes have the strongest card I've found ( used them a lot in building wargames terrain and the odd vehicle or 4... )
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: Klunk on February 19, 2021, 04:58:44 pm
Frosties or Crunchy Nut boxes have the strongest card I've found ( used them a lot in building wargames terrain and the odd vehicle or 4... )
You just like these more than other cereals!!
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: rayl on February 19, 2021, 08:51:31 pm
SO: How do you "glue" the cardstock to the hull (or whatever)?  Contact cement(?), Alipatic glue (?), 3M No 77 spray adhesive (?).   Not trying to be difficult, just want to get it right.
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: malcolmfrary on February 20, 2021, 09:59:40 am
SO: How do you "glue" the cardstock to the hull (or whatever)?  Contact cement(?), Alipatic glue (?), 3M No 77 spray adhesive (?).   Not trying to be difficult, just want to get it right.
Depends on what you are gluing it to.  Whatever works.  Since the card is not waterproof, it will need treating with "something" to seal it against water as well as just paint, and protect against any surface scratches that ir might gather over time.
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: rayl on February 21, 2021, 05:13:11 pm
To all:  Thank you for your replies :-)) .  I'll muddle on from here.
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: warspite on February 22, 2021, 09:55:09 am
Using Cereal box material I am part way through covering a Card built corvette shaped hull, the main frames being anything between 1 and 2 mm thick were made from Card that was used to be the back support for a hundred sheets of pre-printed draughting film A0 and below, the initial covering Card was that used as the back sheet of writing pads, that grey card board after the last sheet of ruled paper in the pad so usually A4 sized, the front half of the vessel is covered in Kellogs corn flake box Card, at the moment, the waxy printed side is outermost and when and if I finish it, I will have to sand this coating off so that the second coat can be applied.


I dont know what product in the US, matches what I used which here is called EVO-STICK impact adhesive, it looked more like toffee in colour and flowed like heated toffee, the latest environmentally design versions are white and are like clotted cream and I dont think they are as strong in their grip - mind you I haven't tried it out properly yet, there is the spray can type of contact adhesive that appears to be the toffee style but sprayable and is very good on the grip side.


When I had assembled the frame and first skin etc I also coated the outside and inside with cascamite glue (I believe ground up horse bone), it was a white powder mixed with water and brushed on, I believe it is good for sealing wood joints and waterproofing porous surfaces, hence why I used the toffee style impact adhesive - to make sure it grabbed the sealed surface.


When I see Card stock I usually take it to mean Paper based, though I now consider it means materials like plasticard / ABS / styrene as they usually have flat sheet materials, never tried super glue varieties on these, always the small Brown bottle liquid whose name escapes me, but it melts the surface to allow it to be 'welded' (a brand was called plastiweld) or the glue for plastic soil and water pipes used by plumbers.
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: Colin Bishop on February 22, 2021, 10:25:58 am
Cascamite/Extramite is resin based and you can still buy it. It is OK for sealing surfaces but I think there ae better methods. Glynn Guest uses dope which penetrates the card. Sanding sealer is also a good bet.

Colin
Title: Re: Cardstock: What is "Cardstock"?
Post by: Howard on February 22, 2021, 10:45:03 am
Hello Rayi,
 It look up on here my half build SD14 you will see how I have used card  and plastic.
                Regards Howard.