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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: madboats on June 14, 2021, 10:05:24 pm

Title: smoke generators
Post by: madboats on June 14, 2021, 10:05:24 pm
Hi all
Looking for the unit used with Graupner steam oil to produce smoke had one some years ago don't even know if they are still made but the oil is.


Thanking all in advance
madboats
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: C-3PO on June 15, 2021, 08:14:59 am
Hi madboats,

I think you may be referring to Graupner Super Smoke Generator 6V 2324

Not sure if the Graupner one is still available - it's listed on some sites but out of stock - maybe searching eBay is an option

https://www.nexusmodels.co.uk/graupner-super-smoke-generator-6v.html (https://www.nexusmodels.co.uk/graupner-super-smoke-generator-6v.html)

Try Googling - Seuthe Smoke Generator

or perhaps look at the many water based atomiser "smoke" generators

C-3PO
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: kinmel on June 15, 2021, 09:41:08 pm
It is also quite simple to make one using E-cigarette generators........
http://trainelectronics.com/Animation_Smoke/
 
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: hemayann on September 06, 2021, 05:02:19 am
any way of getting them to blow black smoke as white smoke is steam
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: malcolmfrary on September 06, 2021, 08:26:16 am
any way of getting them to blow black smoke as white smoke is steam
No.
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: raflaunches on September 06, 2021, 10:42:01 am
any way of getting them to blow black smoke as white smoke is steam


Not unless you want to get droplets of ink/food colouring/etc all over your deck and superstructure.
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: chas on September 06, 2021, 11:20:49 am
I thought black smoke from a ships funnel meant there was something wrong with the combustion.

Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: rob on September 06, 2021, 11:43:01 am
I remember trying to add creosote to smoke generators to darken the smoke.
It stank, made a mess and would certainly be frowned on these days !
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: cos918 on September 06, 2021, 07:55:19 pm

Not unless you want to get droplets of ink/food colouring/etc all over your deck and superstructure.


Dosnt work . At best you will get very very very light grey and a big mess on your model.

John
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: Geoff on September 06, 2021, 09:57:13 pm
With coal powered ships and to a lesser extent oil powered ships, when they stoke the boilers you initially get poor combustion and lots of smoke. This is why sometimes when working up to speed coal powered ships emit huge amounts of smoke but other times when up to speed whilst they emit smoke it is very much less.


So far I'm not aware of any realistic method of making black smoke without making a filthy mess of the model - it would be nice if someone could find a way!


Cheers


Geoff
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: Plastic Man on September 15, 2021, 07:49:43 pm
So reading this I wonder if the Seuthe Smoke Oil lasts about 30mins for 10ml at a cost of £6 could you just not use  pure vegetable glycerin thats the vape stuff and only costs £4.50 per 250ml

Has anyone tried it yet?
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: madboats on September 16, 2021, 09:43:07 pm
Hi Plastic Man


Yes i have used it works very well. Have you looked at the link posted by kinmel?


Regards madboats
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: Papa Joe on February 22, 2024, 10:37:13 am
[font=Söhne]I've used smoke generators before, they're pretty neat. Haven't tried the Graupner steam oil one specifically, but I've heard good things. Might be worth checking if they still make them. Can't hurt to ask around or search online for alternatives too. Good luck![/font]
Title: Re: smoke generators
Post by: chumphon on February 22, 2024, 10:45:15 am
I was in a similar situation looking for a smoke generator for a project. Graupner's stuff is pretty niche, but I found that sometimes you can get creative with what you have. I ended up using an E-Cigarette from Innokin (https://www.dampfi.ch/hersteller/innokin) for my needs. It worked surprisingly well for creating that smoke effect without the hassle of finding specific model parts. It might not be the traditional route, but it's an option if you're stuck.