Model Boat Mayhem
Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Radio Equipment => Topic started by: Taranis on August 14, 2021, 08:36:50 am
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Anyone got one yet?? designed specifically for NON aircraft
https://youtu.be/AnUV18M-OvY (https://youtu.be/AnUV18M-OvY) sales commercial
https://youtu.be/80I1naa2giQ (https://youtu.be/80I1naa2giQ)
https://youtu.be/Sc68VOMUGak (https://youtu.be/Sc68VOMUGak) maybe the best video, worth watching all way through O0
https://youtu.be/FS2gmqDSjhU (https://youtu.be/FS2gmqDSjhU) programming
https://youtu.be/R5T6-wHYyuo (https://youtu.be/R5T6-wHYyuo)
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No, but I got my eyes on it!
I'd like to have it, as I enjoy that aspect of the hobby. I have a Turnigy i10 that I have lots of programming on to handle my boats with twin props and bow thrusters, for the fun of it.
I like the 3axis sticks and the side levers on the Paladin.
Like you I'm curious to hear about it eventually.
Hama
This is my thread of programming with 3 different conditions controlled from the tx, I use this on all my twin screw/now thruster boats.
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,49976.msg509345.html#msg509345
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Based on the best video I’m going to order one next week for after my holiday.
So much easier for old farts than OpenTX
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Great!
Looking forward to hearing about it! :-))
Hama
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Wow that looks like a really good bit of kit!
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Looks very nice. Also looks very expensive. I wait to see a price.
john
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A case of if you need to ask you can't afford it %%
My crypto currency is at 46% profit so I could buy two for nowt :-)
The flagship edition is £514 inc VAT derivered from China Banggood.
8 and 12 channel receivers under £40
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A case of if you need to ask you can't afford it %%
My crypto currency is at 46% profit so I could buy two for nowt :-)
The flagship edition is £514 inc VAT derivered from China Banggood.
8 and 12 channel receivers under £40
or a case of people who say :A case of if you need to ask you can't afford can be fool and there money easly parted .
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I'm concerned about buying this from Banggood due to the lack of information about receiving goods in the UK through customs.
They are currently selling at prices "including VAT" but no information as to whether they are actually registered with HMRC and collecting VAT legitimately. So I could get charged again as its not clear what happens.
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I've now ordered and paid for the Flagship edition.
Banggood did reply after the fact that no further charges should be made as they collect the VAT for the relevant country.
I found the reg VAT number on the invoice.
The VAT portion was £85 and the percentage is different for each country depending on how each rate a commodity.
There is now a Facebook group specifically for the Paladin PL18EV
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Order has now shipped with ETA 16th September O0
See the earlier video at 30:47 onwards for use on a tug boat
https://youtu.be/Sc68VOMUGak (https://youtu.be/Sc68VOMUGak)
Now waiting for Bob Jacobsen to do the mixes video
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Just watched a review, Awesome, I think it will play "ode to joy". what a set to play with, enjoy. bill
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Cheers Bill
I hope it arrives in good working order :o
Seen one all wobbly on Facebook with not a very happy recipient after waiting weeks for it to arrive. :((
All being well I'll be selling several other radios
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So here an update of my experience
Having paid VAT to Banggood at point of purchase I have since been billed by DHL Express for further VAT and duty.
The VAT being £51.19 and £11 duty.
After a number of emails to customer service they have now apologised and agreed to pay me a refund of the VAT requested by DHL
This is the easiest solution but it should not be happening ! and will not do Banggood any favours with customer feedback.
I have checked with HMRC online and the VAT registered number for Banggood is genuine.
Clearly there is a communication/paperwork hole between Banggood and their choice of courier
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I phoned DHL this morning to ask why they were asking for VAT when it has already been taken by Banggood
Their reply was that the seller had market the package as Tax and duty unpaid.
Clearly Banggood have an internal communication and staff training issue.
I emailed Banggood with this information and also pointed out that they charged over £85 VAT whilst DHL only charged £51.19
I told them that unless they offer prices net of VAT I won’t be using them anymore as clearly it is better to leave charges to customs in UK.
Aside from this the radio is already at LEEDS distribution centre on hold, despite estimated delivery date of September 16th
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You want the whole £85 back from Bangood, Andy
not just the VAT requested by DHL.
Knowing you, you have probably done that
already being a shrewd Yorkie👍
Ned
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Not sure if trust DHL with importing these days. They charged me £180 to collect a parcel from them back in February. 2 months later they sent me a demand for payment again. They wouldn't take my original card receipt, or contact the depot itself to confirm it was already paid. The depot said they wouldn't help direct as it was done and dusted on the day or had any access to accounts team. They finally closed it out in June when someone who wasn't in the call centre in India got involved and actually read all the mails, but they're still contacting me recently about it! Seems none of their departments are joined up or will speak to each other if there's a problem, they just want to keep taking money and they won't release the items if it's not paid for first so it's really daft.
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does anybody know of an article or video that shows what the differences are between the PL18 and the PL18ev? the price difference between the two is over $200, and i am curious what exactly that $200 gets me.
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Completely different joysticks for starters.
The EV is dedicated to non flyers along with all the onboard software and mixes
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You want the whole £85 back from Bangood, Andy
not just the VAT requested by DHL.
Knowing you, you have probably done that
already being a shrewd Yorkie👍
Ned
No luck with that, I was lucky to get passed Ivy the bot the last time. They don’t like giving money back 🤬
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That is fuggly. :}
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Hi, Customs fees by carriers are a rip of, they collect fees from recipient, no matter if paid by sender. My advice is to always challenge. Since brexit I regularly Organise shipment by my company; large multinational US based corporation. We have a customs account with all major carriers, despite this when delivered in UK, the carrier issues invoice to recipient, when challenged they admit admin error. Imagine how much they make of ones never challenged when they charge 20% vat plus handling charge.
Jim Mackenzie
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Just returned early from holiday to find the 8 channel receiver through the letterbox. No charges applied.
If anyone was in any doubt about the legitimacy of Banggood {-) {-) despite paying £37 inc VAT the package was marked as "commercial sample" with a value of $9USD
Can you smell that >:-o
I've paid the DHL invoice to clear the Transmitter kit and arranged delivery for Wednesday.
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Despite arranging delivery for September 1st DHL decided they would deliver today whether I'm in or not <*<
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Feels very substantial.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-F7PbT7R/0/XL/i-F7PbT7R-XL.jpg)
Perfect for tank steering
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Standard harness
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The tray as a jigsaw
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10 minutes later
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Hi Andy
Looking at ordering one of these to use with my survey ship, what was the total cost you paid if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks
Russ
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Also can you confirm the aluminium case comes with the flagship model?
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Hi Andy,
Nice radio, I may be interested in one, however would you know if you can work separate esc's, like the F14 twin stick?
Regards
Destroyer42
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https://uk-m.banggood.com/FLYSKY-PL18-EV-Paladin-2_4G-18CH-5D-Hall-Sensor-Gimbals-AFHDS-3-Radio-Transmitter-3_5-Inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-for-RC-Engineering-Vehicle-p-1852320.html?rmmds=search&act_poa=POA8648589&cur_warehouse=CN#popuppoa (https://uk-m.banggood.com/FLYSKY-PL18-EV-Paladin-2_4G-18CH-5D-Hall-Sensor-Gimbals-AFHDS-3-Radio-Transmitter-3_5-Inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-for-RC-Engineering-Vehicle-p-1852320.html?rmmds=search&act_poa=POA8648589&cur_warehouse=CN#popuppoa)
Select flagship edition option for current price
Any transmitter can operate two ESC
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I have just ordered the flagship model, just hope it comes with aluminium case as shown in the advert picture..
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The last video in the first post shows what you get :-))
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:-))
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Video at my public group https://www.facebook.com/Techno100/videos/3020733051516671/? (https://www.facebook.com/Techno100/videos/3020733051516671/?)
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It looks a great piece of kit though anything with an LCD screen scares me off!
I notice you have throttles set on the side and the sticks? Purely out of interest when I've designed control panels before one of my tests before handing over to an operator was to do two things at once (two buttons pressed, two sticks moved etc). Obviously at work it would result in an error and no operation, but on your radio for whatever reason you have the twin functions -just out of interest what happens if you set full throttle on the side, then pull the stick back -does it cancel the side function? Sorry for my old fashioned ignorance, what's the benefit of having a non-self centring throttle? Or is it so you can put the radio down while it sails along? I can imagine it is needed on a model aeroplane otherwise it falls out of the sky but can't figure it out on a model boat.
Rich
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All sticks are self centering.
Good question scenario of sticks competing with each other :-))
I just tried it and the receiver responds to the most recent signal so yes one cancels the other.
The side sticks allow for tank steering alone.
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I am hoping I can use the two “turn knobs” on the main sticks to adjust the revs of my Schneider units and then left main stick for forward/reverse and right stick turning...
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The knobs are also self centering.
The three pots at the bottom are friction :-))
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Two of the pots it is then, thanks Andy
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Latest reveal
https://youtu.be/7o-hTSzKl_c (https://youtu.be/7o-hTSzKl_c)
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This evening I did a TX battery test. The battery is integral and charged wirelessly. I set the touch screen to always on at 20% brightness.
At 3hrs 45 mins
Video
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2F4npNx/0/1920/i-2F4npNx-1920.mp4 (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2F4npNx/0/1920/i-2F4npNx-1920.mp4)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2F4npNx/0/1920/i-2F4npNx-1920.mp4) (https://techno.smugmug.com/Paladin-PL18EV/i-2F4npNx/A)
I guess in normal use with a timeout on the screen it will be much much longer.
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Yes it looks good Andy, mine is destined for the 17th September, I watched the video today of using two receivers and switching from one to the other using a switch, will work well with one of my upcoming projects where main ship carry’s a daughter boat...
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I now control motors with side levers with joysticks and with the bottom potentiometers for more options.
My expected delivery date was miles out, it came in a few days but I was on holiday.
Tomorrow I hope to learn how to walk Stevn's Arctic sideways on just the z drive steering and no bow thrust.
To further emphasise that this is completely different to a plane PL18 "pun"
Nothing to do with flying!
These are the model type option images on the EV.
There are 20 channel mixes to choose from rendering the "to me" complex OpenTX obsolete.
I'm at the moment using four mixes to great effect.
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Cheapest UK despatch here. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403068022820 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403068022820)
I offered £38 each for 2 and was accepted.
Transfered me to ebay.com where this changed to £76.02 including UK VAT and Royal mail tracked.
Mine just arrived all OK :-)
A lower offer was declined so I think I found the best they'll accept.
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Mine should land on Friday I am being told :-))
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Well that was unexpected, mine turned up today, cracking service/delivery :-))
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That's great but who did you buy from who was the courier and was there no tracking data?
I bought 2 more 8gb receivers , delivery Friday. So in all I have 6 x 8 channel and 1 x 12 channel. That will do for now :-)
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Bought from Bangood and delivered via DHL, there tracking as of yesterday was for delivery this Friday then got a text this morning to say delivery would be today..
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Any redeeming features on the label that avoided extra charges ?
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I have a KYModels kit coming from China, that is via FedEx, that was for delivery today but tracking says it’s still at Charles de Gaulle?
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Any redeeming features on the label that avoided extra charges ?
No I was charged £42.00 import tax, sent the receipt to Bangood customer service and they said they would refund..
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Ooooooh look, another to lust after, got to be bragging rites with this one.
[size=78%]Welcome to VRinsight Shop! (http://www.vrinsightshop.com/shop/step1.php?number=24&ckattempt=3)[/size]
Regards Ian.
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Not really Ian as its for PC Virtual Reality simulators so even if you can hang it around your neck it won't communicate with your boat {-)
(http://www.vrinsightshop.com/goods/images/20140924030842cont2.jpg)
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Yes but some clever person could electronically interface it to a 2.4G TX module. Stick wagglers used to be able to interface with Flight sim program(me)s.
Regafds Ian.
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Along those lines
https://youtu.be/4gAW0vQ24z8 (https://youtu.be/4gAW0vQ24z8)
C-3PO
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I think I'm pretty committed {-) but by all means carry on O0
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Updating
https://youtu.be/7KxzohQcTiM (https://youtu.be/7KxzohQcTiM)