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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Pleasure boats, Sports, Race, Power and Leisure Boats: => Topic started by: snoopy on November 04, 2007, 06:07:01 pm
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Hi guys
Would like to pick your brains. I am looking for a petrol engine, the one I have come accross is DZY 26cc MARINE SINGLE PETROL ENGINE. Can anyone tell me if it is a good engine, reliable ? need about 30mph. It is not for speed, just for playing on the water. I need it for a boat whhich I havent built yet. The engine costs £85, I think that is cheap but like I said I dont know anything about them. I would be very grateful if someone, or all, could give me some information and help,
thanks a lot for time and effort. :embarrassed:
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Hi,
Yet another low cost product to come out of China. They do a range of engines to suit most requirements. The one you mentioned is the economy model. I set one up for a customer the other week. It ran well but didn't seem to be in the same class as the Zenoah engine. But considering the cost it's good value for money. Durability & reliability has yet to be proven.
Regards Gary
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Hi guys
Would like to pick your brains. I am looking for a petrol engine, the one I have come accross is DZY 26cc MARINE SINGLE PETROL ENGINE. Can anyone tell me if it is a good engine, reliable ? need about 30mph. It is not for speed, just for playing on the water. I need it for a boat whhich I havent built yet. The engine costs £85, I think that is cheap but like I said I dont know anything about them. I would be very grateful if someone, or all, could give me some information and help,
thanks a lot for time and effort. :embarrassed:
hi mate if its a good motor and cheap that will give you 30 mph no problem then i suggest a good strimmer motor like mine in my first scratch built mono.its 28 cc air cooled but i run it in an open top hull i built from plans.the motor cost me 15 quid on ebay brand new,i see them from time to time now for 25 which is still a great price.heres a few pics of mine and some video of her.ive been running this boat for a year now and no problems whatsoever even after a dunking she runs great.not the fastest boat but faster than a lot predicted {-).im now running another boat with a 260 gpum zenoah and have to say these motors are brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DkwfMavcqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DkwfMavcqQ)
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The following is text was from Julian de Camillis of J Perkins Distribution Spares Dept on their DZY 26 engine:
The only details I have from the manufacturer are 2.35HP but does not say at what rpm or prop load.
They say the rpm range is from 1.6k to 10k for this engine although the prop size and shape will have an effect on this.
No port timing available, so can only suggest using a protractor bolted on the crank to try to work this out.
I would not expect any great jump in performance as these engines are usually designed to produce max torque at fairly low rpm's.
Sorry we don't have much
The boat that I have with this engine is turning a 75mm prop. It is not the fastest but does start quickly and run easily.
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Thanks for all the help. i will look at some strimmers and get some ideas from there.
Once again many thanks O0
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if you need any plans i have plans for this one its a great boat and will accept a zenoah when you decide you need more speed ;).
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i have looked on ebay and engines for strimmers are coming about £80. no cheap ones just now. Will keep looking, not in any hurry.
Where do you get the boat plans from?
I think i will give the Zenoah a miss just now, probably will have to save up more money ro beg the wife, will kep looking.
thanks for your time and effort
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i have looked on ebay and engines for strimmers are coming about £80. no cheap ones just now. Will keep looking, not in any hurry.
Where do you get the boat plans from?
I think i will give the Zenoah a miss just now, probably will have to save up more money ro beg the wife, will kep looking.
thanks for your time and effort
One thing to bear in mind is that with the current currency situation (does that make sense?), the American market is a very cheap place to shop just now.
How about a stock Zenoah PUM26 delivered for £112?
Glenn.
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glenn is right either the states or hong kong are the places to buy a zen at cheap prices.if you still want a strimmer motor ive seen some less than 80 quid :o .if you can stretch to the zen you wont be dissapointed unlike with that zen copy ;).heres a cpl,of new strimmers i found but if your in no rush maybe the one i have will come available again soon im not sure but all i can say is its a good motor.anyway heres a cpl ive found on ebay.by the way the plans are free ill email them to you if you wish?.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RYOBI-2543Y-SPLIT-SHAFT-PETROL-STRIMMER-INC-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ190169159234QQihZ009QQcategoryZ112593QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RYOBI-2543Y-SPLIT-SHAFT-PETROL-STRIMMER-INC-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ190169159234QQihZ009QQcategoryZ112593QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McCULLOCH-PETROL-STRIMMER_W0QQitemZ150179513433QQihZ005QQcategoryZ139981QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McCULLOCH-PETROL-STRIMMER_W0QQitemZ150179513433QQihZ005QQcategoryZ139981QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Homelite-ST-385-Proffessional-petrol-strimmer_W0QQitemZ140174980719QQihZ004QQcategoryZ71277QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Homelite-ST-385-Proffessional-petrol-strimmer_W0QQitemZ140174980719QQihZ004QQcategoryZ71277QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McCullock-Petrol-Strimmer_W0QQitemZ230187922790QQihZ013QQcategoryZ139982QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McCullock-Petrol-Strimmer_W0QQitemZ230187922790QQihZ013QQcategoryZ139982QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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Strimmer engine sitting on Ebay £4.99 no bids yet. Item no 180175826185.
Or type in strimmer engine under all categories. You would have to remove the clutch assembly, but I would not know what you would be left with at the end of the crank , thread?, and what type or style of coupling you would need. Unless you are in a postion to make something up.
Gary.
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Strimmer engine sitting on Ebay £4.99 no bids yet. Item no 180175826185.
Or type in strimmer engine under all categories. You would have to remove the clutch assembly, but I would not know what you would be left with at the end of the crank , thread?, and what type or style of coupling you would need. Unless you are in a postion to make something up.
Gary.
No you dont need to remove the clutch assembly? all you do is use a square ended flex that slots right into the square hole thats it.then you atatch the flex to a ferrule (silver solder)and the ferrule to a solid stainles steel shaftvia 2 grub screws which runs through a strut.Or you can buy a ready welded flex to shaft with a square end to fit the slot but you will need to make sure you get the right length so the ferrule setup might be better.I run mine with the clutch and i used the ferrule setup,been running over a year now no problems at all.heres a cpl of pics of mine in the boat and my strut setup.Also ive atached a pic of a square drive collet on a zen to give you an idea of how it works,basicly with this setup you need a shaft saver as the flex isnt held into the motor but thats where the ferrule comes in as its between the boat and strut it stops the flex coming out of the slot O0.If you use a ready made flex shaft setup you need to use a 1/4" wheel collet as a shaft saver just between the strut and the hull.I almost forgot top say my scratch built mono cost me about £150 to get on the water including radio gear so its a great cheap way to get running if you can get a cheap motor.Even with a zen it would be less than most ready to run boats available and this hull will outrun most of them too especially with a zen.In fact id bet my boat with the 28 cc strimmer motor would beat most of those chinese rtr packages you see on ebay for 300 quid :o..if you want a nice glass hull i know a guy who makes them and sells them for £75 on ebay i have one and installed a zen into it.i have a build thread on here called seaquel build.
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heres the glass hull shes a stepped mono and she runs well with a stock zen O0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RtYCQIgGcA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RtYCQIgGcA)
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Hi Guys
you were right. I looked at American ebay and I can get RED ZENOAH WATER-COOLED G260PUM R/C BOAT ENGINE. this is the one I will go for.
Thanks for the offer of the plans, if you could email them that would be great.
Away to beg the wife for more money now
thanks again
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Have seen the engine I am going to buy. As this is my first petrol engine what running gear do I need for the boat ? is there any pics to show how it is laid out in the boat ? The boat isnt for racing, its just for fun. Is there a site or sites you can recommend for the gear. Many thanks for helping newbie
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Hi Martno1fan, I see you said a frien did your boat. As I will eventually make a boat for the engine. How much for a boat including delivery and what size is it ?
Have looked at a few on American site which look quite smart but unfortunately they dont deliver to UK.
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hi the yellow boat i built from plans from plywood it took me 6 weeks from start to finnish ;) somewhat a record i think lol.The orange hull is made by a guy who makes full size hulls he sells them on ebay for £75 delivered quality is very good O0.its 46" long 13" wide plenty big for a zenoah would def need some work to fit a strimmer motor (lengthening the hatch) and with strimmer you would have to run it without the hatch to allow air cooling.No big deal though,if you fancy building the woody its not too difficult and it runs well too.for running gear all you need is 1/4 flex 1/4 ss shaft ,1/4"ferrule 1/4"strut ,1/4 drive dog ,prop prather 275 or 280,prop nut.5"or6"wedge rudder and bracket etc.feel free to pm me with your engine choice if you prefer to keep it hush hush ;).heres a cpl of links to a site i got my stuff from,prices are exellent and quality is good.stay away from the dual rudders though.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-new-Aluminium-strut-for-1-4-shaft-for-r-c-boat_W0QQitemZ290160379313QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-new-Aluminium-strut-for-1-4-shaft-for-r-c-boat_W0QQitemZ290160379313QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-Propeller-78mm-dia-for-23-35cc-boat-Pitch-109_W0QQitemZ290177476309QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-Propeller-78mm-dia-for-23-35cc-boat-Pitch-109_W0QQitemZ290177476309QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-rudder-for-67-90-nitro-23cc-35cc-rc-boat_W0QQitemZ290176786273QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-rudder-for-67-90-nitro-23cc-35cc-rc-boat_W0QQitemZ290176786273QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem)
also check daves site out hes also great for advice too O0
http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/ (http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/)
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Hi Snoopy
Although I don't race the petrol class, I do know that the info you have been given so far is spot on!
At the current prices, you can't go wrong with the Zenoah. It's a bog standard engine (not in performance) which you can get just about anything for. If you're just starting, its always a good idea to get what a few others have got, both in getting bits AND getting information. The deals from the States are even tempting me :o
"Phantom", (who is sometimes seen on here) made Marts hull, and a very nice job it looks too - ideal for what you want and a good price at £75. Jon Wright (Jotika) does the "Aeromarine" range but are a bit dear if you're not going to race it (from £130). Paul Firmin (Nimrif) does the "Makara" another good boat (don't know the current price but must be over £120), finally Bernard Holder makes the "Magnum", a big submerged drive hull that goes on forever (maybe not quite as fast as some though) at £125.
The world's your lobster :D
Have fun
Danny
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I think phantom better known as Gav to me has been very busy lately both with work and gettinng a new hull ready for rc including a cat i think.I dont see any of his hulls on ebay right now but thats not to say he wont have some up again soon,it depends how long you want to wait?.that said have you checked out the easy vees from the states? they look similar to my woody and come in lazercut kit form for cheaper than it costs for the wood here.send joe an email hes a great guy and very helpfull and will give you setup instructions to help you.his boat is also very fast with a zen between 45 and 55 with a zen depending on setup etc.shouldnt cost much to ship here and at $59 thats cheap(£28)
http://www.zippkits.com/ (http://www.zippkits.com/)
veebox looks nice too
http://www.zippkits.com/ (http://www.zippkits.com/)
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Have seen the engine I am going to buy. As this is my first petrol engine what running gear do I need for the boat ? is there any pics to show how it is laid out in the boat ? The boat isnt for racing, its just for fun. Is there a site or sites you can recommend for the gear. Many thanks for helping newbie
Snoopy,
you will need, in addition to the engine you have already chosen (good choice BTW):
Petrol tank, drive shaft, propellor, rudder, radio box, radio gear, exhaust (Tuned pipe preferable) & a hull. The fact is there are dozens (or more) of each of the items listed to choose. Might be the best way to decide on a hull, then work out if you are going surface or submerged drive on it.
When you have decided, come back for impartial advice as and when you need it. Most people on here are, in my experience more than happy to help. We do not always agree but you pays your money and takes yer choice.
And Danny - tempted to start burning petrol and leave the alcohol alone? It's a momentous day. Honest, it won't be like the bad old days with the Kwaka's Danny and 6 laps per hour. It's the way forward!!
Glenn
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thanks guys for all the info. Will now need to decipher it out. Lots to look at, will check out all the info. Might buy the £75 fibre glass one whilst hopefully making one from plywood
once again thanks for all the help guys, at least I am now on the right track
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thanks guys for all the info. Will now need to decipher it out. Lots to look at, will check out all the info. Might buy the £75 fibre glass one whilst hopefully making one from plywood
once again thanks for all the help guys, at least I am now on the right track
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5250.0
Have a look through that lot, there are explanations of the different drive arangements etc etc and the pros and cons of each.
Glenn
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thanks guys for all the info. Will now need to decipher it out. Lots to look at, will check out all the info. Might buy the £75 fibre glass one whilst hopefully making one from plywood
once again thanks for all the help guys, at least I am now on the right track
Check my build threads out on rcu heres a cpl of links.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5452887/anchors_5452887/mpage_1/key_new%252Cgas%252Cmono%252Cbuild/anchor/tm.htm#5452887 (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5452887/anchors_5452887/mpage_1/key_new%252Cgas%252Cmono%252Cbuild/anchor/tm.htm#5452887)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6338131/tm.htm (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6338131/tm.htm)
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Hi Guys
thanks for all the information. I have definately decided on the Zenoah watercooled 260 engine. The boat I will probablt start with is from America, It is an N-Box, costs approx £50. It is 46"long x 17" wide. It is from Zippkits R/C Boats.
So this the engine I am going for and the boat I am getting. Just have to work out the rest of the gear I need for it.
once again many thanks
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hi mate not wanting to put a downer on things but the cracker boxes of which the n box is one are flat bottomed well as near dam it and they arent very forgiving :o if i were you id go for a vee so either the easy vee or the veebox which will be more easy to drive O0.vees are better for a first boat as they are more stable and will handle most conditions better than most other designs .the cracker boxes dont turn great and can spend a lot of time the wrong way up by all accounts,heres the veebox it even says on the link it turns better than any other cracker due to its deep vee bottom O0.same price too same looks up top just with a vee bottom.will look awesome with some 1/4 driver figures stuck on the top ;).
http://www.zippkits.com/ (http://www.zippkits.com/)
heres one with a nice finnish.seems they go well too O0
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Hi Martno1fan,
Thanks for the heads up on the boat. I have emailed the company and told them to change it to the Vee Box, the same as the one in your pic. Talking about boats as you mentioned earlier about the plans do you need my email address, let me know.
thanks again
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Yes mate i need your email O0 pm me if you wish,I'm glad you decided to go with the veebox you wont be disappointed these kits are supposed to be really nice.If you need any more advice don't hessitate to ask ;).
mart
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Yes mate i need your email O0 pm me if you wish,I'm glad you decided to go with the veebox you wont be disappointed these kits are supposed to be really nice.If you need any more advice don't hessitate to ask ;).
mart
Hope he is not disappointed anyway!! Flat bottomed might have just been the thing needed!!
As to having boats upside down, I find that a vee is more than able to be inverted with just that slightest of touches of "just a bit more throttle through here".....
Just me being ham fisted though - again.
Glenn
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Hi Guys
Bad news. :'( Zippkits say they no longer do the V Box. They say they still do the Easy Vee which they recommend.
Got your email Mart, thanks a lot , plans look good. I will print them off and have a look, pics look excellent. i think i will have a go at making this boat whilst looking around for a second boat. Just out of curiosity do you or any of the guys know where you can get plans for the V Box or does any other company sell it.
much appreciate all the help
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buy the easy vee i know lots of guys on that other site who have built them and they run fantastic O0.you can also make a hatch for it too if you wish and i can show you a few pics of one with a hatch if you want?.glad you like the plans mate,once again buy the easy vee shes very fast and stable when set up right.by the way the easy vee was partly inspired by these plans Joe told me so himself.looks very similar dont you think.
heres a pic of the easy vee with hatch the other is the one from those plans.
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Hi Mart
Sorry to be a pest. I have downloaded the plans. Just out of curiosity I printed of the inner transom, just want to make sure the printer has gave me the right size. I measured it at 13" accross 3/4" side and 3 1/2" from top to bottom, centre line. Is this right cos it looks small to me :-\
sorry to annoy you
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your not annoying me lol im not sure on the exact height of the transome mate as i enlarged mine,mine measures 5 3/4" as i raised the sides from the highest part of them and ran it that height right to the transom.it gave me more freeboard .the orriginal is low at the transom and sits low in the water however she runs great.to be honest id buy that easy vee as by the time you buy your wood etc it will cost more than the easy vee.you can allways build this one later if you like and raise the sides and transom like i did.by the way sounds right width wise so must be right also the hull gets higher near the engine bay area and wider too so dont worry it is big enough O0.
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Hi Mart
Thanks for your time once again. I probably will order the V Boat and like you said see about building one later.
thanks once again for your time and effort
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Hi Mrt
forgot to say i did go into RC Universe, you are right there is loads of stuff to look at. The one I looked at was Modelpowerboat.com. There are loads of free plans etc.
here's the link http://www.modelpowerboat.com/RC_Boat_Plans/p13_sectionid/7
thanks again
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Hi Guys
like I said Mart, sent for the Easy Vee.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Easy-Vee-Gas-Boat-Kit_W0QQitemZ220156899369QQcategoryZ19166QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ2
This costs £60. Boat and delivery from America. Excellent value, just waiting on it arriving now. Put a link above in case other guys looking for boats, recommended.
Thanks again
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good choice mate gladd i could help,have you decided on setup yet? id advise surface drive!!.Use a simple strut setup with an offset rudder with 2 water piccups if you can ,if it comes with one then buy a piccup that you can bolt on the back of the transom that way you have water running from one to your water jacket then out of the boat.the second one cools the manifold and pipe in that order then over the side.you will need a flex hex coupler for your motor to join to the flex,a brass stuffing tube,1/4", drive dog and a prop and prop nut.email dave marles at prestwich and he will give you a quote for all the above hes a very helpfull guy.or try the links i gave you for some things if you think they are cheaper but i advise def getting the ready welded flex shafts that he has as you dont need to solder a ferrule on ;).you will also need a tuned pipe for your motor.
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Hi Guys
I think I have made a mistake regarding the Zenoah 260 pum. Does it need a clutch and a water pump ? The engine came on it's own. I dont know if it needs a clutch and water pump. hope you guys can put me on the right track
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Hi Guys
I also found this combi set for the mono hull, is this good value for money and is this what I should buy for the Easy Vee
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160056444912&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
thanks again
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you dont need a clutch unless you want one? i got mine from prestwich off dave for 54 quid i think it was.im not running a water pump,unless you idle for more than a min or two you dont need one.as for that hardware set id forget it that company sells cheap rubbish.you can get some good stuff cheap from here.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Head-of-the-River-RC-specialist (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Head-of-the-River-RC-specialist)
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-rudder-for-67-90-nitro-23cc-35cc-rc-boat_W0QQitemZ290179423732QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aluminum-rudder-for-67-90-nitro-23cc-35cc-rc-boat_W0QQitemZ290179423732QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adjustable-stinger-drive-for-1-4-shaft-rc-boat-silver_W0QQitemZ290179418113QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adjustable-stinger-drive-for-1-4-shaft-rc-boat-silver_W0QQitemZ290179418113QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-Propeller-78mm-dia-for-23-35cc-pitch-124mm_W0QQitemZ290179311492QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-Propeller-78mm-dia-for-23-35cc-pitch-124mm_W0QQitemZ290179311492QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-flex-collect-for-1-4-cable-gas-engine_W0QQitemZ290179065144QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stainless-Steel-flex-collect-for-1-4-cable-gas-engine_W0QQitemZ290179065144QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34062QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminum-trim-tab-for-67-90-23-35cc-boat-silver_W0QQitemZ290179063675QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminum-trim-tab-for-67-90-23-35cc-boat-silver_W0QQitemZ290179063675QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
if you want the all in one setup this one looks ok.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-strut-rudder-w-roller-bearings-special-ver_W0QQitemZ290143835785QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aluminium-strut-rudder-w-roller-bearings-special-ver_W0QQitemZ290143835785QQihZ019QQcategoryZ34058QQcmdZViewItem)
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Thanks for the site and info Mart. lots to choose from, will try and stay with your choice but will have to hide it from the wife (too many shiny things)
Can i ask you one more question ? Which quiet exhaust pipe will I go for, wet or dry ? whats the difference
thanks again
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Hi there Snoopy,
there are other options on hardware available, Prestwich among others do quality components and you can call for advice and speak to person if help in set up is needed.
Again, when it comes to pipes the Prestwich range take some beating, there are lots of American ones around, some are very noisy, and need additional stinger silencers not to be too anti social.
Wet pipe apparently do not give the same performance as dry ones. If you are hell bent on a wet pipe pm me as I might just have one for sale. Not sure I like the idea of water being in close proximity to the internals of an engine. That said, my motor has been full of water many times and so far survived well. (It is a Zenoah PUM260)
Glenn
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cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.
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Thanks again guys for the help and info. much appreciated O0
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cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.
Totally agree with finding bargins from Hong Kong via Ebay. O0
Please be warned that buying from our friends state side U.S.A. you do have to accept that you could have extra costs on postage/shipping via our not so friends at CUSTOMS. :police: :police: :police:
At the moment they seem to pick on items comming from the states and slap on IMPORT DUTY. :'( >>:-(
I have not had this problem with items via Hong Kong etc and the prices are in U.S. Dollars.
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cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.
Totally agree with finding bargins from Hong Kong via Ebay. O0
Please be warned that buying from our friends state side U.S.A. you do have to accept that you could have extra costs on postage/shipping via our not so friends at CUSTOMS. :police: :police: :police:
At the moment they seem to pick on items comming from the states and slap on IMPORT DUTY. :'( >>:-(
I have not had this problem with items via Hong Kong etc and the prices are in U.S. Dollars.
But of course, the ones from Hong Kong were probably gifts. I know mine were. If it's declared as a gift (on the Customs Declaration form), it should be non-taxable - even from the U.S.
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Hi Guys
sorry for any confusion, i meant a water cooled pipe not a wet pipe. thnaks for pointing that out. think I will go shoot myself.
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Hi Guys
sorry for any confusion, i meant a water cooled pipe not a wet pipe. thnaks for pointing that out. think I will go shoot myself.
No need to do that mate {-),there are wet pipes too ;D.by the way make sure you use silicon tubing for the water cooling noy tygon and make sure you use tygon for fuel and not silicon {-).i can help with the silicon tubing ;).
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Hi Mart,
that would be fine. PM me with the length of tubing I need and price
thanks again
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Hi Guys
Can anyone recommend a magazine or books that I can buy with the boat setup, engines etc ?
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best magazine i know of is radio controll boat modeler,has great stuff in it but they only print 4 a year.books best ones that i know of are
ADVANCED R/C BOAT MODELING by John Finch
BASICS OF RC BOAT MODELLING by John Finch
i have a word document on mono setup out of the first book ill email if you like.not sure where you can get those books,maybe do a search and see what comes up?.
here you go found one O0 might order myself one.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Advanced-R-C-Boat-Modeling/dp/0911295216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195083302974&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Advanced-R-C-Boat-Modeling/dp/0911295216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195083302974&sr=1-1)
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Hi mart
looks good, will order one. If you could email the word doc that would be great.
thanks again
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on its way mate also tubing will be posted this afternoon or in the morning ;D.
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Hi Mart
tubing arrived this morning, excellent delivery speed, much appreciated
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glad you got it ok a tip for you when you put it on get some small zip ties and put one on each end to help keep it on the nipples of the inlets etc.its just extra insurance as silicone gets soft when it gets warm.you can get some tiny zip ties for 99 p in wilkos and they come multi coloured ,probably 100 in a pack or more .keep the water line well clear of your exhaust too or it will melt >>:-(.
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glad you got it ok a tip for you when you put it on get some small zip ties and put one on each end to help keep it on the nipples of the inlets etc.its just extra insurance as silicone gets soft when it gets warm.you can get some tiny zip ties for 99 p in wilkos and they come multi coloured ,probably 100 in a pack or more .keep the water line well clear of your exhaust too or it will melt >>:-(.
Silicon shouldn't melt at exhaust temperatures Mart. I use it on my exhaust OK, so far anyway
:) ;D
Glenn
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it works on mine fine too mate but try holding it to the side of the exhaust and you will find it melts allright lol.i had one line a tad too long and it was up against the pipe and after agood run it had melted a bit ,not right through but enough to tell me not to make that mistake again.
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Hi Guys
Just thought I would give you the heads up. Like Gary has already stated watch what you are buying from USA. I bought the Zenoah 260 a couple of weeks ago like I said. I paid $150 which included postage. I was lead to believe that was all I had to pay to Bonzi Sports. I have just received an invoice from FEDEX for £29 for duty/tax charges. I have emailed Bonzi sports, and i am waiting for their reply. There is no mention on their Ebay site regarding any extra payments or import fees. I find this very wrong as I bought the item in good faith and paid the postage. I thought I would just let you know as all are not being honest with their advertising.
unhappy person :'(
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HI MATE ITS A FACT YOU WILL PAY IMPORT TAX ON ANYTHING FROM ABROAD,HOWEVER MOST SHOPS NOW STAMP TOY PARTS ON THE PACKAGE TO AVOID THIS ;).IVE NEVER PAID ANY IMPORT TAX TO DATE FROM CHINA,MIND YOU I THINK A LOT HAS TO DO WITH IT BEEN FROM THE STATES MAYBE?.
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Hi Guys
this is the response from Bonzi
This is for your country's customs/import duties. We cannot charge for those since they vary from country to country. The £29 is to cover the FedEx shipping charges. We apologize for any confusion. All of our international customers must pay import duties for what they purchase from us! Thanks again. Bonzisports.com
Looks like I have to pay the £29. Never saw anything on their site or in terms & conditions that i would have to pay extra. wont be dealing with them again
joe
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Hi Guys
Thought I would just let you see the response from RC Jets. Will look elsewhere
Hi Mate
Sorry we do not accept PayPal from Over Seas dew to fraudulent cards used.
The clutch and delivery will be $115.00 Australian dollars, Mate I don’t
know if you will pay Tax you need to ask UK customs. In Australia if we
purchase over AU $1000.00 worth of goods from OS we pay duty and tax.
Regards,
George Papoulidis
Sales Manager
RC Jets
A Division of Elite Solutions Australia P/L
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WHY NOT RUN IT WITHOUT THE CLUTCH?
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Hi Joe.
have you tried rcworldwide-com on Ebay might be worth a look.
Sorry to hear your story, many of my racing mates have had the same experience and that is why I put the warning up.
Hopfully the total price was still cheaper than buying from the UK.
U.S. company,s cannot put incorrect details on the shipping paperwork. They face VERY BIG FINES :police: :police: :police:
Gary. O0
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They dont have any either Gary heres a link joe save it as they are good for parts ive used them a few times.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/rcworldwide-com_Zenoah-Engines-Parts_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ2994606QQftidZ2QQtZkm (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/rcworldwide-com_Zenoah-Engines-Parts_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ2994606QQftidZ2QQtZkm)
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Hi Mart
have saved it. Thanks for the site, looks like some not bad stuff there
joe
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Hi Gary
Still cheaper buying abroad rather than UK. Its not the price i am objecting to but why they cant say on the ads that there might be import duty to pay, I would still have paid the £28 gladly, some companies have too much cloak and dagger but once bitten twice shy.
joe