Model Boat Mayhem

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Title: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: old_gunner on December 01, 2023, 11:54:00 pm
Seems to be an odd rumour that the NEC will be hosting a model boat show in 2024, any other contributor heard this rumour?
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Dave_S. on December 02, 2023, 09:58:16 am
I've not heard anything about it, but would definitely be there if it happens.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 02, 2023, 01:55:42 pm
The NEC is a very expensive place to hold a show. I doubt that there is enough commercial interest to support it.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 02, 2023, 02:28:57 pm
 
The last model show I tried to attend there was cancelled the Day Before opening!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: old_gunner on December 02, 2023, 02:34:30 pm
Ah, I did suspect that it was just puff, should not listen to people in Lincolnshire pubs. {:-{
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: KitS on December 02, 2023, 02:59:07 pm
If a show couldn't be made to work financially at the Warwick site, I really can't see how it would work at the NEC.


It's also hell to get to the neck and car parking costs a fortune, it's easier & cheaper by train.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 02, 2023, 03:05:05 pm
This sounds as if some one has seen the Boat Live show they put on and thought , Oh its a Model Boat Show !!


I would have thought that if they were planning a Model Boats show then they would have actively been contacting Clubs and Traders, would not like to think how much the NEC would be cost when Haydock Park was double figures !!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: dougal99 on December 02, 2023, 08:53:05 pm
Just been to the Warley Model FRail show at NEC. Ticket £21 Parking £12:50 if booked ahead £17:50 on the day!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: mrzippy on December 03, 2023, 09:49:26 am
There was a model show at the NEC around 1990ish? - I exhibited on the OMRA stand -
I recall taking a long walk from the car parks beside the main lake, where ic model power boats were in action (yes you did read that correct 'IC' powerboats) this was filmed by one of the TV channels and broadcast to advertise the event.
Paul.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: phil_parker on December 15, 2023, 03:36:49 pm
Probably refers to Key Model World Live - https://www.keymodelworld.com/modelworldlive
Trains and plastic kits as that's the magazines involved (Hornby and Airfix mags). No RC boats. But then it is the first year.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: dpbarry on December 21, 2023, 11:40:56 am
 :P  Ignore as such. Would help if I had brain in gear and looked under  'Commercial Events and News'  {-) :-))


 Just a general query.

What model shows are still going - either on the mainland UK or Europe?

I don't think we have much going on here in N. Ireland but have always fancied going to one.

Cheers


Declan
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: David Shaw on December 21, 2023, 12:12:37 pm
Hi,
Best ever shows I have been to in the past is Dortmund show.
Just booked a couple of flight for the show next year, 18-21/4/2024.


Cheers
David
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 21, 2023, 12:59:02 pm
The only model boat event that i know of is (probably) at Windermere around the 21st of June. There will (probably) one or two at Southport during the year. I expect.
Dortmund was the best model show overall in the World during the 1980's -90's, but from what I hear and see that has fallen of its perch a bit in the last ten years or so.
LB




Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: David Shaw on December 21, 2023, 02:22:55 pm
The Dortmund show like any show might not be as busy as it used to be, but it is still far better than any UK model shows !
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Treble on December 21, 2023, 03:38:11 pm
I went to the Dortmund show just before the pandemic and I didn't find a show in decline at all , quite the reverse in fact , it was awesome. I even rode on the 7¼" live steam loco running freely around one of the exhibition halls which included a stretch through the large r/c vehicle display . From memory there were 8 off large halls , showing all different disciplines , all of which were to incredibly high standards . A stand out feature for me was their pro-active encouragement of youngsters , both boys and girls . In fact it was a girl who won one of the tug control contests on the boat pool ( approx 12 times the size of Blackpool Show pool ) A better idea of size may be gained from watching an 8 foot model  of Bismark sailing around it on You Tube. They even had 2 large man-cooling fans for the large yacht events. The 2 full days I was in the exhibition was not enough to see everything in full detail . The trade stands included both Deans Marine and RDG amongst the large number of traders.  Should anyone be interested enough I can supply information from the show guide I got whilst there . I could also forward the e-mail I've recently received for the 2024 show.  As an aside , rail fare from Doncaster-Stanstead was £79 advance booking and flight Stanstead-Dortmund £53.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 21, 2023, 03:42:12 pm
The Dortmund show like any show might not be as busy as it used to be, but it is still far better than any UK model shows !


That may well be the case and probably should be, after all the money that is poured in to it though it depends on what your after of course. As a matter of interest though, in what way are you qualified to pass such an opinion. For interest sake how many UK model shows or more specifically, model boat shows/regatta’s have you attended in say, the last 20 years or so?
LB
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: David Shaw on December 21, 2023, 03:52:57 pm
LB,
I would also like to know have you ever been to the Dortmund show. If not you are not in a position to knock it.
Me I do not both with the UK shows now, I look at the traders going. Do not see many, so is a waste for me to attend.
The last Blackpool show there was only 2 traders I wanted to see.
So Dortmund is the one for me.
David
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: cos918 on December 21, 2023, 08:37:26 pm
The Dortmund show like any show might not be as busy as it used to be, but it is still far better than any UK model shows !

I Exibited there last year with my two RC ferries.  Yes the show is smaller than 10 - 15 years ago. It is still the biggest in Europe.
The boat section this year had only 2 boat traders, Mainly due to the stuiped cost of stand rental . I have head figgures and its mad. Still a great show to go to.
The only boat show that could be on par with Dortmund boat section was Warwick . Sadly Warwick is no more .
John

Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Mrs Stav on December 23, 2023, 08:29:28 am
er forgotten about the Blackpool show and it i would sat the only survivor due to the forwardthinking of the Organiser




'Kelly'
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 23, 2023, 02:48:58 pm
The only boat show that could be on par with Dortmund boat section was Warwick .
John
Seriously !!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 23, 2023, 03:06:25 pm
 
Never been to the Dortmund show...  :((

https://youtu.be/Opi07wfnEwI?si=P3n2TnsDQ1LAleW9
 
https://youtu.be/LI_bylPuBGw?si=HJpgxFM8YB2G567C

https://youtu.be/NYNpMudju5Q?si=KT4JKcuawteO0aK5

https://youtu.be/Unck-EBUHCY?si=QKblm2-U0FYN6cgs
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: cos918 on December 23, 2023, 03:54:08 pm
Seriously !!


yes Been to both as a vistor and exibitor. So quilifed to say that, Have you done that ?
John
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 23, 2023, 03:57:34 pm
To Dortmund no, but better shows than Warwick Yes.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Treble on December 23, 2023, 04:37:34 pm
Dortmund was on my bucket list , and pleased I went . Another on my bucket list is Friedrichshafen Modelbau , which is even bigger than Dortmund  , and this year's show posted 46, 000 (!!) visitors and a 400 m² square deep sailing pool .
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: David Shaw on December 23, 2023, 05:48:36 pm
Not surprised that Friedrichshafen Modelbau is on your bucket list. Been once when Ryan Air was flying direct. I would go again if there was a direct flight from London.
Also near the show is a Zeppelin Museum to visit.


David
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 23, 2023, 05:51:08 pm
I take it you need more than a day to see the whole show !!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Treble on December 23, 2023, 06:10:46 pm
With Dortmund I booked 4 days hols ; 2 days travelling and 2 full days ( from opening time to closing time) for the exhibition , which occupied 8 large halls . I intend to allow 6 days for the 12 halls at Friedrichshafen ; 2 days travelling , 3 in exhibition ( which includes a large outdoor flying area) and 1 day at the airship museum ( which is the other reason for going ).
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 23, 2023, 10:17:35 pm
Hi SWMBO , just popping out to a model show, might be a few days !! %% %%
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 24, 2023, 07:05:46 am
With Dortmund I booked 4 days hols ; 2 days travelling and 2 full days ( from opening time to closing time) for the exhibition , which occupied 8 large halls . I intend to allow 6 days for the 12 halls at Friedrichshafen ; 2 days travelling , 3 in exhibition ( which includes a large outdoor flying area) and 1 day at the airship museum ( which is the other reason for going ).

I have also been a fan of Dortmund and am considering Friedrichshafen. How are you getting there? There is a Lufthansa flight but it is expensive whilst the Easyjet flight (Saturdays only) doesn't work. I guess that it must be OK but the November date for an event that includes a lot of outside also seems strange.

PS Anybody who compare any of the UK events to Dortmund simply hasn't been to Dortmund.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Treble on December 24, 2023, 03:40:17 pm
Tug , Cost of direct flight air fare is the problem I have found too , so am still looking at alternatives.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 24, 2023, 05:22:19 pm
Interesting that Google  8)  says 24hrs by train but only 13 by car !!
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 24, 2023, 07:22:07 pm
Trainline says 9hrs or so but at £100 to £200 each way.

Coach travel takes 24hrs! (Flixbus)

Zurich & local transport? - every 2hrs takes 2.5hrs and costs £10 return
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: cos918 on December 26, 2023, 12:20:53 pm
I have also been a fan of Dortmund and am considering Friedrichshafen. How are you getting there? There is a Lufthansa flight but it is expensive whilst the Easyjet flight (Saturdays only) doesn't work. I guess that it must be OK but the November date for an event that includes a lot of outside also seems strange.

PS Anybody who compare any of the UK events to Dortmund simply hasn't been to Dortmund.


I visted both Dortmund and Warwick  as a vistor and exibithed ,your point beeing ?
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 27, 2023, 09:00:17 am
Simply that Dortmund is a much broader interest modelling show and vastly larger scale than anything here.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: cos918 on December 28, 2023, 01:12:46 pm
Simply that Dortmund is a much broader interest modelling show and vastly larger scale than anything here.


might want to look at the name of this forum . it Model BOAT mayhem ,BOAT is the clue. So to comapir the boat part of Dortmund against UK show is a direct comparision.  Like you can compair the model railway section of Dortmund against UK shows. NO one but you has tried to compair the whole of Dortmund ,all deperments against a UK show exect you.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: David Shaw on December 28, 2023, 03:22:28 pm
The other RC hobbies have a lot of crossover with model boats. Also the last few model boat show at Warwick gave over a third of the floor space to trucks. With the show called International Model Boat Show. Cannot remember international traders being present.
If we also go by your commit about what is the name of this forum, it has other entries to other hobbies and interests. Which I enjoy reading.
David
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Tug Fanatic on December 29, 2023, 08:54:15 am
cos918

I guess that our interests are different. I love pretty well anything to do with modelling and can enjoy (& learn from) the skill of modellers in all aspects. If you isolate the model boats (which I wouldn't do) then there may be better shows that Dortmund but recent Warwick with its Tamiya trucks wasn't one of them. I cannot comment on Blackpool.

As a measure I go to Dortmund for 3 or 4 days and struggle to see it all. UK model boat shows were at best a day.

Perhaps I am unfortunate in that model boats seem to have linked with Tamiya trucks which are perhaps the aspect of modelling that I find least interesting. At Dortmund the range and quality of truck components is in itself worth visiting.

Each to their own.
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Andyn on December 29, 2023, 09:10:31 am
Astounded to see that the largest dedicated model boat show (most probably) worldwide hasn’t been mentioned here - Mayhem at Wicksteed
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: SteamboatPhil on January 01, 2024, 10:39:47 am
I agree Andy  :-))
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: phil_parker on January 05, 2024, 11:04:51 am
The latest NEC update mentions some model boats!
https://www.keymodelworld.com/article/model-world-live-2024-layout-line-expands
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: SteamboatPhil on January 05, 2024, 02:27:20 pm
Looks like more a model railway show with a few bolt ons. Entrance prices seem a little confusing
Title: Re: NEC Model Boat Show
Post by: Dave_S. on January 05, 2024, 02:39:10 pm
I agree, mostly model rail oriented. I've nothing against model rail, I dabble in it from time to time, but as a Pendon volunteer, I get to see the worlds finest railway and scenery modelling at close quarters quite often!