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Title: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 13, 2024, 04:35:53 pm
Hi to all this is my next build  HMS VICTORY 1/75 scale  wooden build I have just started on the slipway.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 13, 2024, 04:37:12 pm
Here's the box.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: derekwarner on January 13, 2024, 11:49:55 pm
That Bow piece you have on your cutting mat appears  %)  a little more complex than the artwork on the Billimgs box Wallace


From further investigation, it appears that the Billings model boats build #397, is actually a Building Board [model dockyard] for other Billings boat construction


https://modellers-workshop.com/billings-boats-bil397-building-slip/


Derek
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 14, 2024, 06:46:33 pm
HI Derek looking at it now the parts are not what's on the front of box but its all built now all 25 parts ?? but its done the job and yes it cost a few bob.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 14, 2024, 06:52:05 pm
The photos of the build of the slipway for the model HMS VICTORY which you can follow upto now its taken a week to build waiting 24 hrs for the wood glue  to set on parts.

Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 14, 2024, 07:02:09 pm
the last three photos are all for the start of the framework of the Victory  as I said its a little bit cut and a little bit sanding then using white wood glue  letting it dry 24 to 48 hrs  so far the build is 2 weeks old a very long way to go ,I'm just waiting for my parts to arrive from Japan so I can paint the hull on my Yamato so two ships on the go  wow.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on January 15, 2024, 06:25:12 am
I never built a ship using such a framework, butvI am looking forwards to following your build.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 16, 2024, 04:57:36 pm
Here's the photo of the HMS VICTORY  that I'm building its 1/75 scale and all made of wood alot of the build is 5mm.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 18, 2024, 06:46:16 pm
Parts to be cut out
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 18, 2024, 06:49:17 pm
first parts cut and clean just onto the fitting not glued
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 18, 2024, 06:51:50 pm
As you can see on the parts I have drawn lines downwards thats to give the ok that the parts are are square and straight.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 18, 2024, 06:58:11 pm
more parts place to see how they fit still not glued.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 25, 2024, 06:54:48 pm
 :-)) Hi all parts are glued into place and I'm happy with the Finnish job I let them dry for a good 48 hours with white wood glue.
The next Job is cutting out the lower deck and fixing to the frame using small tacts the photo shows how I have done it  after putting in a few tacts I turn it over and applied white wood glue
puts my box's of lead weights to hold the deck down and I let it set for 48 hours before turning it over again to seal all parts under the deck with white wood glue
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 25, 2024, 06:58:10 pm
The next few photos are the plans for the next stage of the build to give you all a look how its getting build  :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 25, 2024, 07:08:20 pm
The parts getting put together and left to dry and harden for another 24 hours  :-))  Really enjoying this build and I know its going to take me ages to build but that model making be happy  and look back and smile at your work. :-)) :-))

Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: JimG on January 25, 2024, 08:14:26 pm
You need to cut down on the amount of white glue. If you check the plan there is probably a sub deck that sits on that piece flush against the former. The glue fillet will stop the deck from sitting flush.
Jim
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on January 26, 2024, 07:02:30 pm
Thanks JIM G  the wood glue was only just put on  for showing what I have done and if you see the later photos which I haven't put on just yet,  all is well with the frame part and as all my followers  will tell you 100% would say my gluing is fab, JIM I left it like that for a while to let the super glue under the other part to harden really thanks for your comment. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 07, 2024, 06:19:44 pm
sorry about the wait for photos of the build,I have been working on the ship most days some days its a bit to cold I only do around 1hours in the morning then 2 hours in the afternoon,


Here are some photos from the 18th Jan 24 
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 07, 2024, 06:22:49 pm
More on the build still on the frame but on the near end.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 07, 2024, 06:28:55 pm
Onto the lower deck for planking which will take around 12/14 hours to do, you can see the black thread I'm using so I tried to rub along the thread with super glue to make it harden and easy to use it does work but it takes its time.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: JimG on February 07, 2024, 07:42:41 pm
Just one problem with your deck planking, you have just one plank between adjacent but joints. A quick check on my ereferences shows that it should be 2 planks separating adjacent but joints with their joints staggered. This is needed on the full size to give more strength to the deck planking. A bit rivet counting but your plankung just doesn't look right.
Jim
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on February 08, 2024, 08:43:24 am
Hi Wallace,
Coming along nicely, but Jim is right about the spacings on the planking. Also the caulking thread is far too thick and dominates the planks.
Please take this the right way as good advice. It is not too late to start again using much finer thread.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 08, 2024, 10:46:27 am
This is a reply to JIMG and FOOTSKI can I ask you both have you built the Victory from all wood ,with the kit you get plans etc but not how to put things together, yes I get things wrong we all do ,so about the planking I know the thread isa bit think I have ordered some in as I have two more decks to plank,I can start again as this deck is almost done and as its the lower deck alot on the right won't be seen, its my first ever time to do planking like this and I have taken "boobs" from a expert who has built the Victory  from Billings ,the planks are cut into lengths of 10cm and 5cm ,not worried about the right side odd cuts as the will be built on and not seen, also JimG  Billings dont show you how to plank and as its my first time of doing the planking  the photo's below I'm happy with  and I hope the next decks are better than this deck,Im a big boy and can take hits all the time  please remember its a hobby and a hobby to enjoy.
Anyway lets move on.
      :-)) wallace ok2 :-)) [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: JimG on February 08, 2024, 11:52:46 am
I have not built the Victory as I don't have the storage space for one. I have however built 2 wooden ships, a Baltimore schooner coastguard gunboat and the William gunboat plus the Panart gundeck hull section. To respresent the caulking I have used 2 methods. I first used black tissue glued to the edge of the planks, the planks were arranged in a block and tissue glued to one edge, the planks are then cut apart  keeping the tissue  on the edge. A fiddly method but gives a good thin line, main drawback is sanding the planks after fitting tends to leave fibres from the tissue. The second method I have used is to run a permanant black marker down the edge of the plank. You need to do this quickly to stop the ink soaking into the grain. Sanding the planks after fitting to give a smooth deck can produce black dust which can mark the planking so scraping the planks can be better. If you are varnishing the deck then you must make sure that the varnish doesn't dissolve the ink.I have included a couple of photos of the William.
Jim
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on February 08, 2024, 04:17:13 pm
Wallace, yes I have built the Victory. It is an award winning model, which was featured in Model Boats magazine many years ago.
The advice we give you, is so you can learn and make a better model, which you can enjoy for years to come.
Should you choose not to take the advice that is fine, but a shame.
I would start that planking again as it rail's to do justice to the model and I am sure you will get more pleasure from it.
The decision of course is yours.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Geoff on February 09, 2024, 02:48:44 pm
As an alternative suggestion if you make up a jig so you can put about 6 to 8 planks on edge. Run some electricians black plastic tape on the edges and press it down. Remove from the jig and turn the planks over and use a sharp blade to cut each one away, it only takes a couple of seconds. You then end up with long planks with a self adhesive black strip on one side which is very thin and uniform. I tend to use a graphite pencil to do the butt joints as in practice they really don't show up too much.


Once the planking is done you can use a Stanley knife as a cabinet scraper at about 75 degrees and smooth it all down and you can get the whole to feel like silk. The plastic caulking scrapes away easily enough and of course its black all the way through and doesn't stain the planks. I use tape from Wickes as the tapes are different thicknesses and Wickes is the thinnest.


Good luck with your model and keep up the excellent work.


Cheers


Geoff
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: SteamboatPhil on February 09, 2024, 03:20:58 pm
Sailmakers black thread works well, a light sanding after works well, remember even on full size sailing vessels they poured tar (which we are trying to recreate) it was never perfect or indeed straight


Just a thought
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: JimG on February 09, 2024, 08:29:24 pm
Sailmakers black thread works well, a light sanding after works well, remember even on full size sailing vessels they poured tar (which we are trying to recreate) it was never perfect or indeed straight


Just a thought
If you actually look at a planked deck the caulking tar is straight and level with the planking. After paying the seam the tar was allowed to harden then a scraper used to take it down to the level of the wood. There are several videos on You Tube from a Norwegian boatyard restoring historic ships showing this method. The only ship I have seen with tar proud of the planks was the replica Golden Hind at Brixton harbour many years ago. Thick tar seams and excess tar was all over the deck planking making it look dirty and poorly kept. Also the deck on the Victory was scrubbed daily with holystones, sandstone blocks the size of prayer books so the tar line would be flush.
Jim
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: SailorGreg on February 10, 2024, 01:11:30 pm
Hi Wallace, your build is coming along very nicely.  As your first attempt it is a credit to you.

On the tricky issue of the caulking, you might want to consider that at the scale you are building, a 1/2" wide seam will be 0.007" wide.  That is really too small to model accurately and the best anyone can hope for is a representative deck that gives the same effect as viewing the full size ship.  Your thread is neatly done but does rather shout at you.  For your main deck you might want to consider that "less is more" - take a look at photos of the deck of Victory.  Even from fairly close to, the caulking is a thin line -

(https://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/sites/default/files/data/nrhv/vessels/499_HMSVICTORY_6.jpg)

Viewed from the top of the mast (which is how models are normally viewed) the line becomes almost invisible.  But only you can decide what works on your ship, and I am sure you will build it into a lovely model.

Greg
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 27, 2024, 07:27:57 pm
 :-)) :-))  Many thanks to you all for the wonderful comments on the build I'm still hard at work on the model onto the main deck for planking and what I have done has taken over four hours and I have given myself 9/10 its alot better than my lower deck will be posting photo's very soon.
Just to let you know I have been on the Victory  in Portsmouth a few times while I was in Portsmouth in my Navy days 1961-1973  and 5 wonderful years on the Royal Yacht  which had wooden decks all over  which had to be washed every-day they were the days. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on February 28, 2024, 07:57:16 am
Looking forward to seeing the photos.
You have had a very interesting life Wallace. Working on the Britrania must have been incredible..
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 28, 2024, 06:34:11 pm
The last photo of the lower deck.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 28, 2024, 06:41:17 pm
the photo's are about the main deck with at one end the frame of the cabins.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 28, 2024, 06:45:19 pm
As you can see the main deck has been pin down and all looking square ,the mast are only fitted to test that they do fit as you can see Yes they do I put in around 10 pins  and marked the deck ready for planking.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on February 28, 2024, 07:03:03 pm
these next photos of the build is the start of the planking I have marked out from the right 3.3cm  -- then 6.6cm -- then 10cm the reason is to form a patten for the black cord so you start at the above the centre line with length 10cm glue then another 10cm along the line, place the black cord going down then plank 6.6cm then 10cm  black cord down fill the end cut out the hole and squares  very carefully, third row down is starting 3.3cm then 10cm not forgetting the black cord down in the middle of the joins  carefully cut the holes etc after the planks have set, what I have done so far on the main one end has taken me just over 5 hours  and you can see the patten  the 5 hours has been over three days, so far with the planking I am very pleased with myself alot better than the lower deck I'm just taking my time so many more hours to go .
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on March 19, 2024, 04:50:42 pm
More on the planking taken so many hours to do and its a job you cannot rush, have enjoyed it and I'm getting better.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on March 20, 2024, 07:05:15 am
Coming along very nicely....
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on March 26, 2024, 06:52:48 pm
Getting close to the end of planking.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on March 27, 2024, 07:30:02 am
Looking good..
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 02, 2024, 05:00:13 pm
End of planking alot of hours doing the decks but I'm so happy with the outcome because it was my first time doing it and I really enjoyed doing it  alot of days  and alot of Hours.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 02, 2024, 07:07:48 pm
Update on the build of Victory, so far to date its been 14 wks of my  build of HMS VICTORY with planking my first time with planking.
  So the start of the build many weeks ago was starting with,
   
   The un-boxing and marking all the wooden parts ( I only cut out the part that I need to build that day)
   Building the Skeleton
   Planking the lower deck
   Planking the main deck
   Building some cabins
   Planking the the upper deck
   Fill and seal the planking on all decks with sealant
   Sand down and Matt varnish all decks
   Preparing the Bow parts ready to fit
   Plank the bow deck seal and varnish
   Fit the parts onto the bow  and paint the back part blue  as later it will to hard to paint
   Placing and making sure they fit cut to fit
   Place the first Bulwark into place and hold with pins use super glue and white wood glue to fit and hold with pins let it dry for 24 hrs.
   


 
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 24, 2024, 06:55:08 pm
photos of the build these past 3 weeks
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 24, 2024, 07:03:01 pm
more on the build and the build of the captain quarters etc.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 24, 2024, 07:11:32 pm
Been a very happy and rewarding build never ever done a build all in wood but this has really tested me have learnt alot  done alot wrong but with wood  but always put it right,
its been a very happy 17 weeks of the build doing around 2 hrs to 4 hours most days ,there is alot of hard work to be done hoping you can follow the build OK. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 24, 2024, 07:14:15 pm
Photos showing the start of planking etc. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on April 24, 2024, 07:21:14 pm
I started the planking from the top of the bulwarks No 2 doing each side one each then a second one going up on the other side  reason for doing one each side at a time is the bulwarks are so thin so to put them on one plank one port side the one plank on the stbd side  makes it stronger. :-)) :-))
These photos are this weeks work  hope you like. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on April 25, 2024, 07:40:15 am
That is coming along very nicely indeed. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 03, 2024, 10:21:43 am
Here's the latest photos of the build and its all on the planking of the hull,I'm very please with the way its gone and I will give myself 6/10 as its the first time to plank a ship like the Victory with wood have learnt alot along the way and its been a long build of the hull, putting on two/three planks aday then using wood putty for any gaps etc, thats the reason I haven't posted many photos of the hull because its the same as the last plank hope you like  the big sand is coming. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 03, 2024, 10:31:02 am
These photos show the trim of the bow and the stern and all along the keel not glued into place just yet just held in place and marked where the planking goes up to will fix into place with glue when the planking is done both sides, got to mark out alot of gun ports on both sides once again I'm not going to rush any of the build a few more weeks and I will go back to my other build to paint the hull and fix all the fitting and guns to the Yamato. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 04, 2024, 07:03:07 am
I think you have learned much. The big sand will make an enormous difference. It takes some time, but we'll worth the effort.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 04, 2024, 09:46:23 am
 :-)) Many thanks to you Footski as always great comments. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 11, 2024, 09:45:31 am
More on the planking almost done  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 11, 2024, 09:52:37 am
Bow and Stern trims all fix and the big sanding is on :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 11, 2024, 10:03:48 am
Hi these next lot of photos are taken with the work done upto June 10th, and while I have been sanding nice and easy  WOW a very big mistake in the planking
as you can see by the photos  I have cut 4 rows out reason being is that they were not sitting very well and putting the shape out and did not glue very well so its wood and you can fix wood
as I have said before its a hobby  so dont cut corners, and dont rush, and dont cover up, I take all these words in from the comments I get and put them into place ok its put me back a week or two but its better right than wrong,It took me just over 2 hrs to cut out etc and sand bits away, wow I was lucky. :-X :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: LenM on June 11, 2024, 11:01:12 am
Hi Wallace,


This might be useful in the future. 


Victory has been repainted.  I wanted to know the RAL number of her 'yellow occur' colour for my model.  Here is the reply from Andrew Bains, the Deputy Executive Director of Museum Operations at the RN.


" There isn't a RAL colour reference for Victory, nor is there a RAL that comes close.  What we now use on the hull now is mixed to a NCS number
NCS S 3020-Y40R."


Len   
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: warspite on June 11, 2024, 01:59:46 pm
So more of a Mediterranean skin tone than pink (i.e. a sun burnt brit second day of the holiday)  {-) not the ubiquitous 'yellow' like I used.


By the way, still haven't sailed my victory yet or modified soveriegn to make her skeg more efficient.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 11, 2024, 09:59:47 pm
Well done Wallace. You were not happy with some if it and did absolutely right in cutting it out to redo it. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 12, 2024, 04:54:06 pm
Always a great pleasure to read your comments Footski  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 12, 2024, 04:57:40 pm
Here's my re-done job on the planking I cut out used better planking as alot of the planking in the box was ????? but done now and filled and sanded.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 13, 2024, 07:19:06 am
Excellent. Now keep on sanding and filling. When you think it is done, do it again, so that when paint is applied any defects don't show up.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 17, 2024, 07:21:22 pm
Found another weak part of the planking so out it has come  and doing it with better planking wood. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 18, 2024, 08:23:08 am
Keep up the careful work and this is going to turn out a really good model.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 19, 2024, 10:30:33 am
Once again Footski thank-you as you have always said dont rush, and I'm doing just what you say next lot of photos will show more weak planking have cut out  so will repair with alot better planking
 I think thats it for the the stbd side then I will feel the port side if I find any I will do the same  so sorry to bore you all but  a job has to be done A1 or not at all. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 19, 2024, 07:16:07 pm
Photos showing the repair done.
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 19, 2024, 07:19:52 pm
 :-))  As I said more repair work to be done   I think when is done that will be the stbd side coming out of dry dock then to have a look at the port side. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 20, 2024, 06:51:01 am
Repairs are looking much better.
Don't forget, lots of filler and smooth sanding before you contemplate putting any paint on..
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 20, 2024, 09:51:20 am
Footski  many thanks and will do, once I am happy with the whole hull fully done and sanded I will put the Victory to one side for a little while and paint the hull on my other ship I'm doing got to paint the hull on my Yamato. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on June 24, 2024, 10:46:18 am
After alot of lovely hard work both sides of the hull have been re-paired with alot better planking,I will now know to look alot closer at the planking on my next build and if not happy with it I will get more from hobby's ,very pleased with the hull at the moment I have been sanding and using Mr White  wood putty  gone through two tubes and have ordered more  the hull is looking good but not A1 just yet I'm onto grade 160 sandpaper two more grades to go then to mark out the gun ports etc hope you have enjoyed the build through my photos like I have building it. :-)) :-)) 

Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on June 25, 2024, 06:34:04 am
Bringing back lots of happy memories of my building days. These days I stick to miniatures..
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 30, 2024, 04:57:59 pm
A few more after the repairs  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 30, 2024, 05:01:07 pm
Just a few parts cleaned up and first coat of primmer the window frames on the stern. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 30, 2024, 07:32:59 pm
More putty and lots of sanding  nearly all done ready for marking the lines  :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: MikeMcP on July 30, 2024, 07:57:34 pm
oooh that makes me feel so much better!
I seem to be going round the fill, sand, rinse, repeat loop far too many times
good to see someone else with lots of putty


and the end result looks amazing!


what putty are you using?
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: Footski on July 31, 2024, 07:34:08 am
Wow. You have certainly been dedicated to the cause. Lots of hard work has paid off, resulting in a hull to be proud of..
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 31, 2024, 10:28:01 am
Thanks for the great comments I know its taken me alot of weeks to do but as they say  do it again and again until you are happy dont rush it and its the good words from Footski telling me what to do and I done it and I'm very happy  so many thanks to Footski for all your kind comments,I have said I'm going to give Victory a little rest and go over to my Yamato but I can't stop on the Victory.
 Here some more photos on the hull. :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 31, 2024, 10:35:07 am
These photos are the build upto date as from last night 30th July the number of times I re-done the marking to the lines water line upwards  so a few more coats of primmer was put on but in the end both sides have been done gun ports all drilled out on the yellow just over 100 guns.  :-))   The best thing about the build its my very first ships  all wood and I am loving it  and its my baby hope you are all still liking the photos take care. :-))
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on July 31, 2024, 10:36:45 am
Sorry missed the photos.  :-))
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Post by: Ralph on July 31, 2024, 09:56:43 pm
Still enjoying your build.  100 gunports needs a lot of patience to mark out and drill - well done.


Ralph
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Post by: Footski on August 01, 2024, 07:35:32 am
Very nice. As Ralph says, cutting all those gunports requires lots of patience and a very sharp knife...
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Post by: wallace on August 13, 2024, 07:43:23 pm
Just a little update  I have had to re-do the painting on the hull as paint went under the tape  going to change to Tamiya tape which I have found to be the best,on this build I'm learning everyday and putting things right  just loving it will get there in the end.


   I must say a big thank you to Ralph and Footski for there kind comments it puts a smile on my face take care everyone will be posting very soon. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on August 13, 2024, 10:05:39 pm
If you are struggling with bleed under the tape,  put a coat of matt varnish over it to seal it before applying the paint...
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Post by: Ralph on August 13, 2024, 10:37:50 pm
The other option to prevent bleed through is, once you've masked everything, paint a thin coat of the colour you're protecting along the edge of the masking tape.  If this bleeds through it won't matter as its the same colour as the paint under the masking tape, but what it will do is seal the edge of the tape so your next colour won't bleed through.


Ralph
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Post by: Stavros! on August 13, 2024, 10:43:09 pm
Wallace dont bother with Tamyia tape simply pop down to Halfords as they sell an excellent fine line tape around 5mm wide coloured blue ive been using it now for years it is not a paper type tape but in fact it is likke insulating tape never had a bleed thru with it as opposed to TaTape which in fact i have


Stavros
Title: Re: HMS VICTORY 1/75 SCALE all wooden build
Post by: wallace on August 20, 2024, 09:56:30 am
Thanks alot for all you great comments about using masking tape will have ago at them all I'm just waiting on my tape to arrive from amazon, put it this way I have enough masking tape to last a life-time, I,m just waiting for more wood to arrive from Cornwall model boats  for more planking as the size I need is not in the box I think I got the the worst box of parts with this kit from Billing not enough wood and some sizes missing, as it was a xmas present from my girls I have not kick off but I can say I will never use them again my next build I hope will be from OcCre  which I have been told have the best kits going, once again many thanks for all your help. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on August 26, 2024, 10:48:07 am
The next build after the hull just making a start. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on August 26, 2024, 10:55:09 am
Photos on the rear officers Quarters build try doing it of the ship BUT I dont think its working a bit to strong to bend around the rear section. :-)) >:-o
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Post by: wallace on August 26, 2024, 11:01:08 am
But to work on the hull with the paint after the paint not holding with the tape I used was not happy with the out come so me being me started all over again  and re-done the taping again with the best masking tape the result is   :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))  you will have to see when I post the photos but many thanks for the great comments about Taping. :-))
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Post by: Footski on August 27, 2024, 07:58:14 am
Coming along beautifully, with care and patience...
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:31:02 pm
The officers quarters parts . :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:33:27 pm
More on the build :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:37:08 pm
And more on the build. :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:42:33 pm
I wasn't happy with the frames of the quarters so I turn Victory upside down and re-done the frame of the windows on the ship this time it looks goods, I keep on learning about the building with wood   :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:45:30 pm
Some of the photos are of the hull as I was doing the officers quarters I was looking at the hull and was not happy had to do some filling and sanding and painted again  happy with the out come, more photos of the quarters. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:48:25 pm
More photos of the Quarters  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 15, 2024, 04:54:29 pm
Onto build some parts for the bow. :-))  Looking at the window frame on the stern near the top I may re-do the half moons on one side found it very hard to bend but since I have done them I have found a way ti do them.
  Thats all the build up to date Sunday 15 Sept  sorry about the long wait for photos. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 19, 2024, 04:43:37 pm
Latest jobs on the Victory and the building up of the bow, its taken me ages to work out where some parts go as the booklet for the build dont say anything about the build only photos of the parts so my little head has been working so hard but it gets their, had alot of sanding and shaping and making, but I'm loving it and I hope you like the photo's.
I'm into month 9 of the build and still along way to go. :-)) :-))



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Post by: Footski on September 19, 2024, 06:14:31 pm
Doing well. It is coming along nicely.  Good that you are taking care to check and double check everything before moving on..
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Post by: frogman3 on September 20, 2024, 08:31:25 am
HI Wallace ive just looked right through your vicktory build an thoughly enjoyed it as yes i know what its like workin with wood as when i scratch built my big 1/72 hms tiger build on here so i know roughly about all your work with wood you have had to do an i say very well done SIR an i wll be followin your build as you go as soon it will be cooper plate time on the hull bottom wont it ? as i had a freind who built this ship an in the kit but a great pity was he died of prostrate cancer when workin on the last small boat on the deck  but his wife has kept his big victory model an hopein to get a glass case for it but on your model VERY WELL DONE SIR SO FAR
CHRISB (frogman3) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on September 29, 2024, 04:51:02 pm
Just to let you all know Had a break with the build been so down with the flu just coming out of it now and on my birthday on Thursday I was in bed just sleeping it off  that was one birthday I won't forget I was 78 yrs old  been doing some small parts for the bow cutting cleaning and painting just waiting to fit them will post photos also I have got back onto to other model the battleship Yamato all wood  which is on this site haven't done anything since last year so I will be doing builds on each and postings them .
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Post by: Footski on September 29, 2024, 11:00:24 pm
So sorry to hear you have been ill, but delighted you are on tye mend.  :-)) :-))
Now get back to that model ASAP..  ok2 ok2
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Post by: wallace on January 22, 2025, 06:40:42 pm
Hi to you all, Happy New Year :-)) :-))


Just to let you all know I'm back to building the Victory  and I'm building until the end have started this week and Im working on the build-up of the bow etc alot of bit to play with  I have missed the build alot  will post a few photos  very soon.  wallace  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on January 23, 2025, 08:38:36 am
Glad to hear you are back at it. Looking forward to seeing the progress.
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Post by: wallace on January 23, 2025, 10:18:21 am
Thanks Footski  so happy to be back and fighting fit and well. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 01, 2025, 10:38:53 am
Heres the start of the bow building after along time out doing my other ship. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 01, 2025, 10:45:50 am
More on the building of the bow parts cut out and sanded ready for painting. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 01, 2025, 10:47:59 am
Painting of the parts for the side of the bow :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on February 02, 2025, 06:54:31 am
That bow section and cutwaters are the most complex part of the build. I remember doing mine and my father reckoned they were too heavy, so after weeks of work, I cut it all off and started again. I have to say, it was well worth the effort though.
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Post by: wallace on February 04, 2025, 07:30:24 pm
Many thanks Footski for your help   I can't post any photos just yet my Mac and USB are playing around will work on it. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 06, 2025, 10:05:10 am
The build of the bow. :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on February 06, 2025, 03:52:16 pm
Coming along very nicely..
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Post by: wallace on February 07, 2025, 04:46:13 pm
More photo's on the build up of the bow the job I done took me well over 2 hours to work out where the parts go so looking at the plan, more cups of tea I worked it out
and placed the two parts, as I have said many times I will not rush doing the ship at all have really enjoyed the build and its always testing me. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on February 08, 2025, 08:38:46 am
Victory's bow section and cutwaters are beautiful to be sure..
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Post by: Mark T on February 08, 2025, 07:38:20 pm
Very nice work indeed  :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 12, 2025, 04:50:41 pm
more on the building of the bow its getting there, looking at my photos I can see alot of re-painting to be done,I may do the whole of the ships side it will take time as all my painting is done by hand never done spray painting on any of my ships always by hand.
My wife has brought me another ship to do its the  APOSTOL SAN FELIPE 1/60 SCALE  had a good look at it when the weather was bad and to cold to go into the garage so I done the cheek of all parts
and number them all but its all put away because I have alot of work to do on the Victory. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on February 13, 2025, 08:08:27 am
All coming together nicely. Repainting the hull should sort out the paint bleed between colours. Keep it up..
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Post by: wallace on February 25, 2025, 04:52:29 pm
Update on the VICTORY build its been a few weeks since last post but I have been hard at work on the build.
I have re-painted the stbd side  yellow and black looks alot better, also done bit more on the bow just a few bits to do both sides of the bow.
I have started making the doors and covers to the cannons ports alot of work to make and paint them  loving every minute of it , the phots show  some of the making and cutting of the hatches etc the time just flys past on the build hope you like. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on February 25, 2025, 04:54:36 pm
some of the making of the hatches for the cannons  :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on February 26, 2025, 07:22:49 am
All good Wallace. Great that you are having so much fun doing it.
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Post by: wallace on March 17, 2025, 10:28:03 am
Sorry  for the long wait for more posts etc etc around 4 weeks since my last post.


  The photo's are what's been done to the stbd side off the bow which is now 95% done all the work on the Victory now is small details which takes a long time you just cannot rush these jobs I must say it has really tested me to the full but at the end of my 2hours  etc a day I down tools look at what I have done,   smile and say I have enjoyed that and I'm happy yes not 100% but I'm getting there and loving every minute of the build .
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Post by: wallace on March 17, 2025, 10:34:14 am
sorry the last set of photos are the way I made the cannon holding ports they took me ages to do cutting cleaning drilling the holes painting them all etc.
So here's more on the gun ports etc.
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Post by: wallace on March 17, 2025, 10:36:08 am
So sorry here's the build of the stbd bow.
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Post by: Ralph on March 17, 2025, 08:54:32 pm
That's looking good. Not sure I'd have the patience to make all those gun ports.
Ralph
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Post by: wallace on March 19, 2025, 07:05:35 pm
More on the Cannon ports a nice little big job half done enjoyed doing and seeing it all coming together.
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Post by: wallace on March 19, 2025, 07:08:20 pm
More on the cannon ports .
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Post by: wallace on March 19, 2025, 07:10:15 pm
More on the cannon ports etc. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on March 20, 2025, 06:50:32 am
Looking good Wallace. Don't forget to paint the guns black. Being made of iron, guns would rust very quickly so we're kept painted, unless they were made of brass which was very rare indeed.
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Post by: wallace on March 20, 2025, 09:58:21 am
Thanks Footski good advice I haven't made up my mind on the cannons as yet, my other half wants them staying as brassard thanks again for your great comment, :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: JimG on March 20, 2025, 12:18:47 pm
By the time of HMS Victory only the smallest guns would be brass as they were much more expensive to make due to the cost of the raw materials. Many of these brass guns will in fact have been old ones kept in use for the smallest ships and gunboats.
Jim
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Post by: wallace on March 20, 2025, 04:45:33 pm
Hi to all Just to let you know the brass cannons will be painted black but not yet along way to go in the build. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on March 25, 2025, 07:05:40 pm
More on the making of the cannon hatch's been alot of work cutting out and making but very enjoyable loving every minute I spend with my lovely Lady of the sea :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: JimG on March 26, 2025, 12:04:11 pm
I'm assuming that the last photos are supposed to be the davits. If so the 4 holes at the end should be 2 slots with a pully sheave in each. As the sheaves are probably not provided then an improvement would be to shape the wood between the holes to look as if there is a pully there. Also the square corners of the holes will make the lines look wrong when rigged as lines go round curves not sharp corners. Other than this doing good work there.
Jim
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Post by: wallace on April 07, 2025, 07:06:34 pm
more on the build :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 07, 2025, 07:09:05 pm
The last photos were about the building of the cannon's hatches which took me a few weeks to do won't be fixate the ships side until much later. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 08, 2025, 10:28:23 am
The hatch's ,covers will not be fitted onto the ships side until later, :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 08, 2025, 04:50:07 pm
Building of the flag lockers. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 08, 2025, 04:55:00 pm
more on the flag two aft flag lockers enjoyable to make up and fitting then full painted  not fixed down in place just yet, the deck needs to be re varnish etc. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on April 09, 2025, 09:12:56 am
Wow, you will be wasting and rigging before long now.  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 09, 2025, 10:30:26 am
Thanks Footski happy with what I have done made alot of mistakes along the way but put them right, really enjoying building with wood for the first time and always look forward to the next day and the next little bit to build. :-)) :-))
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Post by: Footski on April 10, 2025, 07:06:11 am
That is exactly what building should be about. Fun.
My last post should have read masting, not wasting...... {:-{
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Post by: wallace on April 23, 2025, 04:56:09 pm
More on the build of the upper deck. Alot of hard work and very long hours making them but so happy with all. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 23, 2025, 04:58:58 pm
More on the upper deck build. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 30, 2025, 10:11:29 am
More of the building of parts for the upper deck  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 30, 2025, 10:13:15 am
The last few photos where the checking of the parts for all the masts glad to say all is fine.  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 30, 2025, 10:16:58 am
Parts fixed into place after a few weeks of making painting and fitting  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on April 30, 2025, 10:20:43 am
Once again more on the upper deck parts cutting cleaning painting then placing them all in the right place to see it they fit some get fitted and some kept for later  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on June 10, 2025, 10:30:00 am
More photos of the build. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on June 10, 2025, 10:33:08 am
More on the build. :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on June 10, 2025, 10:38:12 am
More on the build alot of small parts to cut clean and paint and put together But very enjoyable  :-)) :-))
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Post by: wallace on June 10, 2025, 10:50:49 am
All the canons done . :-)) :-))
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