Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => OMRA - Offshore Model Racing Association => Topic started by: AC RAZOR 45 on December 07, 2007, 07:49:38 pm
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HI all mad makara men those in favour of a makara club,along with makara only racing days say yes,please post your makara pic here,and lets see how many we get....al O0
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Hello
Heres My Pic's
Bill
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Here is a you tube link to my 1st run. Bill
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aob31iLFNV0
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Although I am a member of the "totally sane, non Makara owning group", I thought you might be open to a suggestion.
When 'Z' class started one of the manufacturers - Dateline Marine offered an annual trophy for the highest score using one of his hulls.
I think someone should suggest the idea to Paul Firmin for the Makaras.
It could be part of the OMRA 'D' class championship, or if you're having your own races, ask him to sponsor the trophies.
Must be worth a phone call?
Danny
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Hi danny thanks for your input,great idea but i cant see paul putting his hand in his pocket, but you never know if it sells him some more hulls, one never knows. he might just, like you said its only a call nothing to lose...lets see how many are interested first....al
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He we are then!
Just picked up my trophies for 2007.
Guess who sponsored them?
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hi i think there is a gathering of us now and it would be great to get a makara race together with either sikk or zenoah motors only.
what do you think?
by the way mine is the yellow one ;D {-) O0
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Well I have a Zen fitted in mine guess which engine I favour :D
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Welcome ye mad makara me,and yes simon well done mate putting the makara on the map along with paul firmin,i am sure it still holds many unbeaten records in omra,well simon bill and all kingsbury is looking like the favourite venue, so i will try and sort it for next year ,,hopfully in warmer weather than we are having now,....al
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Looking Good! Talking of which can any one get T- shirts with " Mad Makara Men/ Woman " on it???
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i can probably get some made
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I am looking forward to this Mad Makara Men/ women day out. Should be a whole lot of fun which brings me back to why I have got into boating. Having Fun. O0 BILL.
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hi bill the mad makara man yes got it in one,thats what it is all about,all have fun....al {-) {-) {-)
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Done a bit of work this week. Taken the choke butterfly out of the carb, shortend the exhausts pipe a bit If the rain keeps of Sunday morn I will see if things have improved or not. :D
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bill do away with the carb and run a modded 257 from barry bluefishy, it will rev alot better...al O0
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Sounds good to me. I will stick for the time being till the engine has run in a bit more. The engine has only had a couple of hours ruining time I think. :-\
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SHE SOULD BE RIGHT NOW WITH A COUPLE OF HOURS UNDER ITS BELT, PETE PUT A MODDED 257 ON HIS ZEN IN HIS ARROW SHARK AND IT REVED ITS NUTS OFF....AL... O0
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Count me in! [if that's ok?] Sounds like the ideal solution to me and even better than that, Kingsbury is my local water!!!
O0 O0
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HI LIKE THE UNDER CONSTUCTION PHOTO,IF KINGSBURY YOUR LOCAL WATER YOUR BANNED,AND WILL HAVE TO TRAVAL NORTH BY YOUR SELF TO RUN AGAINST THE CLOCK, ITS ONLY FAIR YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL AS WE DO,NO ONLY JOKING {-) {-) {-) O0 WELCOME MAD MAKARA MAN :D....AND HAVE FUN...AL
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Here Here. O go on then as Kingsbury is your local water maybe you would like to set up this great day's sport???
Enjoy buliding your Makara. It dose not take long. Bill. {-)
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WELL THE RESPONSE IS LOOKING GOOD AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE A GREAT DAY AT KINGSBURY THEN, I LOOK FORWORD TO IT.... O0
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Just Seen the weather for Sunday. NOT GOOD >:( Still the Stevenage branch of the Mad Makara Men will be at the lake side in the morning :'( O0
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Hi bill thats why we are mad, but it seems your madder than all of us put togher going out in the monsoons... {-) {-) {-)...mad al
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Hello. The Stevenage branch of the Mad Makara Men has been out this morn. The Crab has loosened up so it's an engine out and strip down the crab to get at the fixing bolts. The joy of boating?? Oh yes the rain did hold off to get a tank full though the engine. O0
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two more here !!!!
one running the sg 35 and the other a tuned 26 zenoah
many thanks tony
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tony welcome aboard the mad makara gang..hope you can join us somtime next season for a bit of mad makara fun,hopfully at kingsbury..nice one...mad al O0
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Hello. The Stevenage branch of the Mad Makara Men has been out this morn. The Crab has loosened up so it's an engine out and strip down the crab to get at the fixing bolts. The joy of boating?? Oh yes the rain did hold off to get a tank full though the engine. O0
nice one bill glad it stayed dry for you mate, well 2 more in the gang now with tony Big T O0
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tony welcome aboard the mad makara gang..hope you can join us somtime next season for a bit of mad makara fun,hopfully at kingsbury..nice one...mad al O0
many thanks just tell me when and i will try to get there ,i may try to get one sorted out for down south ::)
had a little throught on the racing , if it is decided only to run zenoah/ sikks i have the sg 35 in mine so how a bout a proper race with a rolling start behind a pace boat , and i will be the pace boat :D all line up behine and i will peel off infield and let you all race , hows that sound {-)
many thanks tony
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sounds good tony i say kingsbury because its central, as my water is trafford water sports centre, at manchester, so when that was suggested simon and a few said how about something more central because of the traveling time, but its a option all in the early stages yet, be it will look well a gaggle of raging makaras on the water at once...mad al O0
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Hello All
When ever we have this fun day out can somone stop the rain?
Bill ::)
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hi bill it wont be in winter thats for sure,but it has been really bad of late i to hate getting wet,fair weather boater thats me,...ill have a word with him upstairs :angel: for you mate..al O0
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tony welcome aboard the mad makara gang..hope you can join us somtime next season for a bit of mad makara fun,hopfully at kingsbury..nice one...mad al O0
i have the sg 35 in mine so how a bout a proper race with a rolling start behind a pace boat , and i will be the pace boat :D all line up behine and i will peel off infield and let you all race , hows that sound {-)
many thanks tony
Tony,
The orange boat with the SG 35 - that really is one mad Makara. I remember it at Bristol...
Ian
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hi ian ,not just a handfull but a big handfull O0
have had a full " little " problems this year and throught i had sorted out the carb problem at the docks but it came back to haunt me
then snaped a shaft at kings after just 8 laps !! :'( still thats what happens when you have no testing and use a race to test in
still should have it sorted out for next year and hopefull a new hull :)
many thanks tony
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Hello Mad Makara Men.
I have just inspected my exhaulst manifold. Both the O rings are flat on one side and it passes water down the exhaust pipe. I have ordered some new rings. However dose anyone have a better way? / have any old exhausts manifold for my Zen 26 they want to sell ::) The pics are what I'm having trouble with. Cheers for your Help. ;D
Bill
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Heres the manifold pic. :D
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hi Bill that manifold is ok its the one Al runs in his makara, but that pipe will not let you tune the exhaust pipe its to long.
you want a 90% header ask Al he's had one in a cobra, there's far to many bends for the exhaust gases to get round quickly.
oh and welcome Big Tee to the madness that a makara brings out in you {-) {-) O0
Pete
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Hi Al. Thanks very much for you info. So if anyone has a 90" type for sale let me know. :angel:
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Sorry I ment Pete not Al
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yeah i know you did Bill no probs {-) {-) {-) O0
Pete
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hi bill
i have an uncut 90 if you need it :)
let me know
tony
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Hi Tony. Good Stuff. email me direct to let me know howmuch. O0
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Hello Mad Makara Men.
I have just inspected my exhaulst manifold. Both the O rings are flat on one side and it passes water down the exhaust pipe. I have ordered some new rings. However dose anyone have a better way? / have any old exhausts manifold for my Zen 26 they want to sell ::) The pics are what I'm having trouble with. Cheers for your Help. ;D
Bill
hi bill petes right the manifold is fine only use viton rings, the header get rid, and buy tony's, what pipe are you using..mad al :)
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I'm not sure which make of pipe it is . It is very big, S/Steel. It went on sale down here and I got it at a bargin price. Wish I could remember the maker. It seems to keep the noise down very well. Looking forwards to seeing how much deferents a shorter pipe will make. :D
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it should be 22mm to fit the exhaust, mine is so i think it's standard 22mm.
i shortened mine and it really does rev, the 90%, but my motor is a sikk, and i think a zen which i have in another boat would be a bit different but not that much.
what exhaust pipe are you running Bill?
Pete
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Al's turning left
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsSAgc0RJU
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Well after a few days of mucking about trying to get some of the gelcoat flaws out of the hull, I have finally managed to get some primer and paint on it. Pics here when the paint job is finished..... Still waiting for the engine mounts and a load of other stuff. Bl**dy frustrating. I can order stuff from the states and it's here in 2 days. Order from the UK and it's a week plus. Go figure...!
Cheers
Phil
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hi Phil i know what you mean i am also waiting for part for my 60" cat build, nearly got them all in now, just pipe and header to come,that will be here Friday, then its all hands on deck to get the thing built...cant wait a new toy to play with he he he {-) {-) {-) mad Al
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bill sent you pm O0
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Sent Paul Firmin an email a couple of days ago and asked him if he would like to contribute to a Makara day.
No responce yet.
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Thanks Tony. What a Gent you are O0
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Hi Bill, i take it you got your 90 degree header,good move mate and the right one , I speak from experience...........mad AL O0
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Hi Al
Yes Tony is posting it for me. What a Star. If it comes in time for Sunday maybe get a run with My Makara. However it's Stevenage Model boat club AGM on Sunday morn, so will only get an hour in if i'm lucky. ::)
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Bill you will notice the difference,just with the ease of the gas flow, its just a matter of tuning it now, if you had a bonzi quite pipe i could have told you where to cut the header,so I'm afraid its cut a bit at a time..good luck...mad AL
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Hello Is every one out from the Mad Makara men club???? ;D :o
Tiss the time to be jolly?
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hi bill and every one in the makara club, i was very jolly last night on the lads night out,and i am wishing you all a merry Christmas, and good luck next year in the races....and I'm more than happy as its nice and quiet on here now...what say you Simon? {-) {-) O0....mad al :D
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Much better, well at least for the next 30 days, then we will see.
BW to all the Makara buoys!
O0 O0 O0
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Yes Happy Christmas time to all. O0 Lets hope for brill weather for next years boating :o Looking forwards to THE MAD MAKARA DAY OUT next year. Better get a date shorted out very soon as my diary has a habit of filling up very early in the year 8)
Anyway Happy boating , Don't forget "We do it for FUN"
Bill.
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Hi all Mad Makara Men. the general feedback i get,is that this fun day is to go ahead,more than likely at kingsbury, if all wishing to participate post which month it should take place the month with the most votes wins,and if then every one is agreed to it we can take steps to sorting it out....my month is....MAY... should be nice the UK usually has its 2 weeks summer in that month......Mad Makara Al :D O0
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al , i am up for any month ,please can i be the pace boat :D
going to hock up with Simon over christmas to give the boats a run ( and hopefully some video Simon O0 )
mmc tony
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Your the boss Tony.
Whatever you say.
Were not worthy, tart!
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tony thats fine by me mate...pace boat you are...may ok by you simon....al O0
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I will have to check with my social secretary and get back to you.
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She says yes! (well i cant say what she really said) but "xxxxx"!
As long as it does not clash with the championship.
Put me down for two Makara's
BW
Simon
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CHEERS SIMON, WILL CHECK OMRA DATES AND WORK ROUND THAT....AL O0
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Morning All.
May is really difficult for me. April is clear so far, or the tail end of June. I'm off to the AGM now. Hopefully get a date for a Stevenage OMRA meet.
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hi bill ok lets see between the others what they want to do, pete and i can do any of them , i need word back from phil, so guys, april or end of june then we are all in, unless there is any new comers...al... :D O0
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Hi folks
End of April is good for me, or anytime in May [bear in mind there are 2 B/Hols in May]. End of June I shall prolly be away with the family for a couple of weeks. Are we aiming at a Sat or a Sun btw?
Build is progressing slowly although now I have my engine mountings, I can start to move things on apace. Paint is almost finished. WIll post a couple of pix when I have finished painting it.
Cheers
Phil
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Tony. Hello.
Got the pipe today. I can't fit it in as it is a Small rad turn which is a great pity. I'm going to need the bigger rad turn type. I could have kicked my self for not working that bit out myself. Anyway email me your address and I will post it back to you ASAP. Thank you very much for sending it to me. O0 If anyone else has a second hand large rad pipe they want to part with, Please can you let me know. TA VERY KINDLY. ;)
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hi bill they are only about 18 - 20 quid from barry blue fishy you require the long 90 degree to clear the rail.....alan O0.......right every one its going to be the end of april then for our outing to kingsbry, just to see what omra has planed for that month,and then we can set a date, more than likely a sunday....mad al :D :D O0
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I have spoken today to Paul Firmin and he agreed to offer some kind of sponsership for the event, not sure what, or what we want. Is it a race meet? or just a jollie?
He would have attended but does not agree with pond racing, and on that note there is due to be a possible break out proper offshore series to be announced some time next year. Arranged by Tony Ellis and Paul. Southampton, Plymouth, Chichister sort of thing. South to South West.
Something to do with WOMRA or whatever that is?
BW
Simon
Anyone know where i can get a .21 for an AA boat?
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Following Stevenage Model boat clubs AGM I am pleased tell you all that we are planing to hold an OMRA meeting on the big lake here at Stevenage. See OMRA news letter in the new year for more details. Bill. :D 8) O0
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O Yes I sould have added It's to be held on Sunday 4th May.
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hi Simon thats good of Paul, but at the end of the day it is a jolly, and as for the off shore stuff, its a long way for us lads in the north..........AL O0
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wow it's quiet in here, you could hear a pin drop and im deaf {-)
ive been off the internet for a while thanks to virgin but im back now O0
as Al said april or june would be good and a bit warmer too ;D
Pete
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Me thinks every one is out doing Christmas!!! {-) {-) {-).
HO HO Ho to one and all.
Bill
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HO HO HO to you as well Bill and i wanted a cat like Al's for christmas but i got a hellicopter instead >>:-( {-)
cheers to one and all O0
Pete
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hi all and yes its ho ho ho time, yes its one big p---y.................CAT, and now its time to start the build..wishing all THE MAD MAKARA MEN merry christmas,and i hope santa brings you all that you wish for...........alan
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Hi Alan. Santa can't bring me what I want ah! How about a pic or 2 of your new Cat?
Bill O0
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as i am building a cat for aa next year, i will show you mine if you show me yours? O0
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Hi Simon. What engine are you going to use?
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just bought a .21 STS, needs a head conversion and a flywhhel and Andy will do them for me over the coming week. Also spoke to Ian (Iansboats) today and he is making me a couple of fuel tanks as well.
Should be ok on the lakes but no good on the sea, it may be too small as well but worth a laugh
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Ah yes Fun ! Is your lake frozen over, Ours is so will not get a run out this week. :'(
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dont think so?
Hoping to go down to Elmbridge on the 30th to try out the tuned engine in the Makara
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Sounds good to me. Lets hope it warms up a tad.
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HI HERE IT IS AS REQUESTED A FEW SHOTS OF THE CAT......... O0 O0
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Looks kinda funky!
Are you going to run a sparky in her?
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hi simon yes there is a sikk ready for her... O0 theres a couple more pics added
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Who's it made by?
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HI SIMON ITS A VERN KILMER HULL IS CLASSED AS 60" BUT ACTUALLY MEASURES 58".....AL O0
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A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL IN THE MAKARA CLUB, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT 2008...MAD MAKARA AL
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Now boxing day is here, Christmas is done. The freeze on the pond has gone for now, Best get down the pound and give the Makara a run. Have fun all you Mad Makara men.
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hi bill, i just said to pete its time to air the boats,hope you had a great xmas and i look forword to our little outing,....... mad al :D O0
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now look what you've done now Al you made it p*** down {-) with threatning to take the boats out.
hope you all had a good xmas.
mad Pete
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No Pete you did that all by your self saying the Easystar is coming out of moth balls...Mad AL :D O0
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going testing tomorrow with the mm ::) am meeting up with Simon and hope to have some pictures and video tomorrow O0
looking forward to the day of racing know as the mad makara day :D
tony
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Shall i get some t shirts made?
If so do we want pictures, names or just Mad Makara Men.
Colours and sizes please?
Happy New Year
Simon
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Hi All Mad Makara man. Large for me Simon. Tony I need to get your pipe back to you. Please send me your address. Bill O0. PS I'm off to failands valley Stevenage 9/12 Sunday morn if any one else wants to join in. :D
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Slightly off the subject! Does anyone know if the winter series is running at Willen?
Subject to some testing tomorow i fancy a race to keep me up to speed!!
BW
Simon
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Simon. No Ian was telling me before Christmas it was off due to the lack of entry's 8) As it turned out most of the dates that was set i could not do. :'(
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Bill,
Was that the first race or all three?
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Me thinks the whole set of races, But I would check as things do change for the good some times.
I put a new Hi Tec RX in my boat over Christmas. Ran it out last Thursday, had loads of short range griff from it. Trying a longer aerial and bounding all the ally plates on the top deck as it seems to get worse when i ran it with it on :-\ :-\ :-\
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Whats the advantage of hi tec?
I run futaba in all of mine and to date (apart from a bit of water) have not had any problems?
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Hi Tec has a built in fail safe. The club Guru swears by them. It would seem we do have a radio dead spot on our lake. I was hoping a new RX would overcome this :'( Thus far its going to get one more run in the morn, and if still no good i may well get another RX to try. I could really use a matching Sanwa RX but they are a bit on the pricey side.
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HI BILL I RUN 2.4 GIG SET AND ITS BRILLIANT NO GLITCHING, NONE OF THIS WHAT FREQ ARE YOU ON, AND BUILT IN FAIL SAFE THAT DOES WHAT IT SHOULD, I'LL NEVER LOOK BACK, ...MAD AL :D O0
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Shall i get some t shirts made?
If so do we want pictures, names or just Mad Makara Men.
Colours and sizes please?
Happy New Year
Simon
HI SIMON, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, MINES A XL AND I THINK MAD MAKAKRA MEN PLUS OMRA NUMBER, IN A COLOUR THATS AGREED BY ALL, LET ME KNOW COST....MAD AL :D O0
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Hi Al
So you find the 2.4mhz radio ok then. Who's make do you use? Is it easy to set up? I like to keep it as simple as I can.
Cheers. Bill
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hi bill i use a spektrum dx3.0 its a wheel set and is super easy to use and set up,it has four model memory, so one tx does all my boats... mad :D O0 al
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Hello Mad Makara man. Have we all been out doing our stuff today?? :D Found out that my new RX Hitec unit dose not like Sanwa crystals. I put Futaba in the RX and problem seems to have gone. Mind you this was the same time as my exhausts pipe header blow a large hole in it :'( . O well back on the internet to track down a replacement for next week. HAPPYNEW YEAR TO YOU ALL> not long to Christmas now????? >>:-(
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bill try dave marles he does stainless headers for around 20 sqiud you wont blow a hole in that...mad :D al O0
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Al. Just What I have ordered up, Lets hope it works 8)
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well done mate...cant wait for our meeting...mad... :D ... O0 al
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Here's one I did earlier.
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christ bill i've never seen that done before,you will be better off with the 90 deggree header, hope you ordered the long one that clears the rails before it sweeps back...mad :D ....al O0
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Yes Al Good AH??? The SS one on Prestwick site should do the job. i may have to cut the rail back a we bit but i think it will be better all round not having those O rings to melt down in the manefold etc. I have also got a bid in for a 275 crab on e bay. When I get them both in it has no reason not to fly. Got a Sat nav tracker for Christmas, I clocked the boat at 34mph on Thurs last week. So I can now tell when i fit things if it improves or not.
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BILL WITH THE 257 YOU WANT ONE THATS BEEN PORTED AND POLISHED THE ARE ABOUT 1MM BIGGER IN THE VENTURI AND IT WILL MAKE YOURS SING REALLY WELL, BLUE FISHY SELLS THEM I THINK THEY ARE 40 QUID, ,WILL ONE OF THOSE AND YOU NEW HEADER IT SHOULD DO ANOTHER 10 MPH WHAT PROP YOU RUNNING....MAD :D AL O0
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Hi Al. 275 prop. It seems to turn it over just fine. I used the same on my Endfrorcer boat. That came in 3rd at Windy this year.
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BILL WHEN YOU GWT CARB AND HEADER TRY A 470 / 3 BLADE THAT WILL BE MUCH BETTER...MAD :D AL O0
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Thanks Al. Next ? where do i get one from? :)
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any of the boat suppies dave marles,... barry blue fishy hes he cheapest,... tony ellis model marine supplies, take your pick..mad :D al O0
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I WISH ALL THE MAD MAKARA MEN, AND YOUR FAMILIES A VERY HAPPY AND LUCKY NEW YEAR.... MAD :D MAKARA :D AL O0
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Haapy new year to all the Mad Makara Man. See you all at our Mad day out. :D
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Going back to the winter series, I think it will probably run if there are enough entries.
Going back to Hitec vs Futaba, I had a few of the Hitec Rx's with built in failsafe (IPD), and had reliability problems with at least two of them. I also don't like having the Rx and the failsafe physically on the same board and in the same case (eggs and baskets). Much prefer having a separate failsafe, and that the failsafe itself is waterproof in its own right. I've got a few Futaba Rx's now and a couple of Sanwas, and so far no problems with any of them.
Happy New Year one and All !!!
Ian
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It's very quiet round here ;) I take it all the Mad Makara men are in there Igloo's ;D No snow to report here in Stevenage, Should be good for Sunday. I will have to run my old boat as my bits from Prestwick ain't got here yet :( Still if you now go to the OMRA web site you will see the calender for This year. Stevenage is on the 4th May so come and play at our lake, make it a date :D
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hi to all , did "we " agree on a date for the mad day out ? {-)
bill looking forward to coming up to you on the 4th ( just try and have a quite word in the right ear holes and try to get two 20mins races each ) O0
tony
bill wait till i either need the pipe or we are at a race , then you can come over and say hi 8)
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Happy new year Tony.
Re the 4th May I think it is going to a single 30min heat at this stage. However it has not been set in stone as yet. I suppose it will largely depend on how many entry's we get. I have to say we do need a good amount of entry's as its going to cost a bit to hire the lake for the day.
I thank you once again for the pipe.
Cheers for now
Bill
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Trouble is, these days there's usually 2 heats of "A" and 2 heats of "D". That makes at least seven in total. With the usual 10:00 start, if you run 20 minute heats plus 10 minutes between, it's at least half past one before all the first heats are done. Even with no lunch break, and not allowing for any stoppages, delays etc it would be at least a five o'clock finish - assuming that none of the other classes run to two heats.
Mind you, it looks like we might need to run a "DM" class this year - just for Makaras......
Ian
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Ian - don't even JOKE about it :o :o :o :o
You're right though, the success of OMRA has made it very difficult for any organiser to have 2 x 20 min heats. That's why 1 x 30 min is becoming the 'norm'! The alternative (to get all the races in) could be 2 x 12 or 15 min heats but then we're getting like the circuit racers and Naviga. That's why so many racers run more than 1 class. At least then you get more than one bite at the cherry. If you've gone to the trouble of travelling big distances, maybe starting out before 6am, it makes sense to have more than one boat as something ALWAYS goes wrong with one of them (at least in my case it does!). Two classes with a one class space ie. "AA and B" or "A and C" or "B and D" usually gives you a break between races unless you go the whole hog like Bernard and race in nearly every class! I'll be running A and C this year, with my AA as 'back-up' in case one of the others becomes terminally ill! That will be enough to concentrate on (at my advancing years) :'(
Danny
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Hi Danny,
So i will not get to race against you this year in AA then?
Regards
Simon
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Curb your disappointment Simon - if you think I can keep both the A and the C going all year, you have more faith in me than I have ::) ::)
You'll get your chance (anyway, it's that Mark Copley you have to beat) {-) {-)
Danny
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you run 20 minute heats plus 10 minutes between,
why the 10 betwwen heats ?
tony
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By the time the race end is sounded, everybody has finished their laps (could be 30 secs) got their boats in, collected their stuff and cleared the landing stage, the next lot have got on the landing stage, settled in and got their stuff out, had a quick start up, OOD has called out who's supposed to be there, sounded the 2 mins mill time, then waited 2 mins until the start of the race.......
there's your 10 mins - if your lucky!!
Danny
"got the T-shirt" {-) {-)
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Danny,
Its only a bit of fun. I dont believe it will be competative, but will look nice!
Breaks up the boredom of sitting around all day for 1 30 minute race right at the end
O0
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Means you'll have to start geting to the events early now, no lie in for you
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"Bit of fun" - isn't that what you said about the 'D' class, at first {-) O0
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It always start as a bit fun but is kinda addictive!
When it comes down to the crunch i guess i am just too competative. Just want to be the best at what i do.
Still got a few years to go before i catch up with rest of them though!
O0 O0 {-)
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Hello one and all
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Hello Bill - been having a nap {-)
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Evening Bill, just sorted out my new paint.
Ducati Red Bull purple base with a fleck and pearl mist. Then lots and lots of laquer! O0
Hows yours, put it back together yet?
That exhaust looked a bit nasty.
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Know my PC will let me do what i want.
I think it will have to be 30min single heats unless we get a poor turn out on the day. During the 10 Min's change over all the boats failsafe will be tested. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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Not napping just trying to get the PC to HAVE IT! Simon. I was thinking of asking to join you last Sunday. Good jod I didnt The Ex pipe after 2 mins on the water!! Still Waiting for the header from Prestwick. I got a brand new 257 crab on the ebay during the week. I hope all the parts get here Very soon. ;D
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Have you shorted out yours after the shaft snaped?
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Bill,
Got one of those fancy stuffing tube mounts from bluefishy and have a flexi on order from mark copley.
We are going testing again on the 26th at Brentwood if you want to come over?
Tony is coming up as well, Damens Makara will be on the water and hopefully my cat will be done as well?
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simon , ggoing to load the van up to the roof with boats {-) when i come over , that way at least i will get a run on one before somethink brakes :'(
may have the blue cat ready for a run 8)
tony
ps got the dvd today , thanks
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26th sounds good to me. Got to do all my Gas course exams the Monday after so it will welcome divertion before the full on Gas bit. Let me have some directions nearer the time. I have been looking at a Sikk engine on ebay. Hum not sure what to do?? £135 +PP is very tempting. IT has got a Red head to match the boat. Very tempting. Do you think I would be able to get a fair price for my Zen if I sell it?
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I will have the Zen if you get one.
Joining the Sikk team then????
Looks like a busy day then on the 26th!
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Who eles is going Simon? Tony + You me?
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Damen will be coming as well.
A very good local mate of mine whoe is just finishing his Makara.
There may well be some of the local lads running as well. The multi boats!
Saturdays is reserved for power, the lakes is not massive and there are lots of buoys. Takes some skill but its good for setting up and testing!
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Sounds like good fun to me. I just hope all the bits get here by then. Still I can still run my White Endforcer boat. O yes lets hope it dose not Ice over.
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which sikk is it bill is it a 26 or a 27....al
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Hi Al . 5+hp CY red head Sikk 26cc with Terminator carb.
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hi bill, i am using a 26 this time i am curious to see how they go in comparison to the 27, if your getting it from the states ask him to put on the shipping doc, repair return to senders,so you have no import to pay on it...mad :D AL O0 ;)
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Hi Al
It's comming in from singapore . Not 100% sure to go for it yet. Not sure if it will be much better then my Zen 26 with a 257 crab which is on it's way from the USA. I have clocked my Makara with the old unkown crab at 33mph, I want to see how much it inproves with the 257. and of course the 90" header rather then the old header which blow last week. May be it will be good with the 2 mods. If is then I may stick with the Zen.
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Bill,
Why the change to a Sikk? I ran my first season on a standard Zen and did OK. Could have done with a bit more power at times though.
Paul said the engine would loose up though so should be better this year?
Cant you get the Zen modded if you want more speed?
I prefer the reliability and ease of set up?
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Good Eve Simon. Yes your right. I am 50/50 but I am going to try out the crab and new header pipe which i hope will improve things.
Took my white boat out today. 1st run went very well. 2nd run the dam receiver packed up. Don't know why?? I put another RX in it when I got home and all is well now. Oh well that's how it goes. :( :D :'(
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the sikk engine is a good reliable engine i have run both and find the sikk better hands down,and is just the same as the zen to set up,and i think youll find gary pope says the same...mad al :D O0
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Hello. I have now got my 257 crab from the USA. Funny how it has only taken a week to get her and parts from Prestwich ordered at the same time Have still not made there way down the country yet. >:( >>:-(
Anyway dose anyone know what the basic setting are on a 257??? I take it you screw both the needles all the way in and then bring them out X times. Any Help would be greatfully received.
Cheers. Bill.
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hi bill mine are set at 1 1/4 on the low and 1 1/2 on the high, but thats on a 27 sikk, a good start point is 1 1/2 on both....... mad :D al O0
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Hi bill , if you are fitting it to the zenoah then a good starting point is 1 on the high and 2 on the low ,then tune from there one at a time
tony
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Is There Any body here O0 :)
Haven't been out today as been away all weekend. Seem the PO have tyred (not very hard) to Deliver me my Header pipe. Will get it and fit it ready for next Sunday. O0
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Got the Header pipe fitted & the 257 crab. Started her up in the garden. Down the lake Sunday to try her out O0
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Hi Bill i am glad your sorted, that header was a long coming,i hope she runs well for you,its very quiet on this forum lately....mad :D AL O0
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Glad to here you are still with us.
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Hello all!
Bill, are you still joining us on the 26th? Would like to run ours back to back?
BW
Simon
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yes sorry to have been away for so long i have been very busy,still we are at the right side of xmas now,look forword to the good weather and a good bit of boating....mad :D al O0
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Hi Simon
All Being well when i run the boat Sunday this week. I will have to confrim this time next week with you, as I am away all the next week and her indoors is getting the hump a bit ::) I hope to be there. Can you email details off how to find the lake and what time you will be there. Cheers For Now O0 Bill
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Hello.
I have just come back from the lake. The new Carb and pipe have done the job of speeding up my Makara. WOW!!!!
Dose anyone have a bigger lake as I keep running out of water {-) {-) {-) O0
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IS THERE ANY BODY THERE???????
Very quiet round here.
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yeah bill thats mine and Al's problem too, on our local lake, open it up and shut off and sometimes shut your eyes :o :o :o
Pete
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Hi Pete
The new carb and pipe seem to hve made a big inprovment. I did clock the boat before the changes at 33mph. I cant wait till Sunday to see how much it has gone up by.
Changing the subject. I am running the Stevenage OMRA meet on 4th May. I know that it is in the middle of 3 meets but are any of you Mad Makara boys comming down?? O0
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Hi Bill glad to heres the carb and header are improving the makara,sorry cant make stevenage one its to far,and another all funds are required for my jollies on the 19th may,we do need to sort this day at kingsbury out though for June...mad :D AL O0
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Hi AL
Yes the new carb seems to have speeded things up sum what. Now I will have to learn to drive it a bit faster :) and keep out of trouble.
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hi to all
bill put my name down for the race ( can we twist your arm for more than one race ,mybe 2 races @ 15 mins O0 ) my even have the new boat ready ::)
we must sort out the mm day out
any one going to the first race at eastbourne ?
many thanks tony
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Hi Tony
Yes We are currently looking at 2 20min heats. As long as we don't get over booked and have to run double heat for classes.
Should be alot of fun im sure. How dose the 18th May @ kingsbury sound to all the Mad Makara Men??? Who is going to see if Kingsbury is available??
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CANT MAKE THE 18TH OF MAY FLYING 7.30 ON THE 19TH.ON MY JOLLIES ..THOUGHT WE SETTLED ON JUNE...MAD :D AL O0
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To Avoid OMRA, It will have to be 8th or 22nd June. I am free at the mo on either of these dates.
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Erm, chaps - I know it's a stupid question, but do any of you belong to Kingsbury club to check dates?
They have a lot of other events on the lake apart from OMRA, like scale, sail and multi, plus tethered hydro at the far end.
Might be worth someone getting in touch with one of the club officials.
Danny
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those dates are fine by me bill, and danny i think one off us is a member at kingsbury, i will have to look back on the threads,my lake is alwas available but a long way up for some...mad :D al O0
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Bill,
Glad to hear you got her running. Have you clocked the speed the changes?
Brentwood details are at www.brentwoodmodelboatclub.co.uk (http://www.brentwoodmodelboatclub.co.uk)
It can be a pig to find but if you have any problems give me a ring on the cell.
I guess we will be there from about 10 until we run out of fuel/we break something/get too wet/gets dark etc. 3 Makara's will be on the water.
Put me down for Stevenage and i guess Damen will be along with his as well.
As for the MM day have we firmed up the dates yet?
BW
Simon
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Blagmeister is the Kinsbury club member, the Mclaran Makara.
Bit quiet on that front.
Where are you Mr Blagmeister?
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Morning All
Good to here 2/3 want to come over to Stevenage on the 4th May. Please book in with Ian. Number is in the latest OMRA news letter.
I am off to Lakeside now. No the Shopping one. So I can get next Sat to join you at Brentwood Simon. PS Simon email me your Mobile number. Thnaks Look Ok to find as I have a Sat Nav and a post code should be fine. O well duty call's. Bill.
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bill if you are running the omra race and you can pull off having two races in the day i will be over to you more than the once :D
i hope more races have the two heats this year as i am getting fead up with the waiting arround all day for one race :D :D >:(
tony
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Hello
Made it back from Lakeside shopping in one bit. Got her brithday present, got myself a new bone, Got some beer in as well. What more could a man ask for? Ok it's a start. Lets hope the rain holds off for the morning. Bill
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New kid on the block!
Damon's Makara, officially a member of the Mad Makara Men.
Hope to have some pictures of 3 - 4 on the water next weekend.
Watch this space
O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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NICE ONE. What is going on in the inside???
Still having a radio glitch on mine. Tryed diff crystals , receiver, lid off and on . Going to try and borrow a Sanwa RX from Ian to see if that dose the Bits. The speed on mine is now up to 37MPH. It go a bit more but had to shut down before the Recption run out.
The Joys of model power boats??? Bill :( :(
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Similar to ours, but it runs a steerable z drive!
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looks like we have been tango ed ::)
very nice , love the rear spoiler :D :D :D :D :D
bill about time you ditched the 40 meg and go over to 2.4 ghz , i have been using the 2.4 for a couple of years now and will never go back to 40 meg
i have a couple back up sets of other 2.4 sets if you want to borrow one to try let me know , you will not be dissapointed
tony
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Lovely looking boat - at last, a bit of competition for Simon's Concours d'Elegance trophies.
Get me some photos and a bit of background for the Omra site please, Simon.
I hope that nice rear spoiler is glued on well, cos the first time it stops, what are the rescue crew going to grab?? ::)
Danny
(ever the pessimist) :D
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Hello. Have you taken a look at the NEW Omra web site Simon? Your Makara shows up in the roll. Well done Danny. Not before time it had a rework over. I have ordered up another 40mhz reciver , However If you do have a spare 2.4GHZ set I could borrow then it would put my mind at rest. Our club guru dose not like them ,in fact he even say they don't work in boats. It would be nice to prove it one way or the other. I will email my phone number Tony so we can arrange a meeting. Bill.
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Bill, do the side bar links work OK for you? Tony's having trouble with them.
Danny
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Danny
The "Links" didn't go 1st time but went 2nd time. The rest seems to be Ok here. I run XP here not that Vista stuff.
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"I run XP here not that Vista stuff"
That's probably why it works then! {-)
Danny
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bill no problem glad to help out if i can ,does this "2.4 does not work " person used it ? i will never use anything other that the 2.4 ever again
i have had no trouble with it over the last two seasons racing and worked well enough for me to win the championship two years on the trot ::)
tony
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Tony
Are you a circuit racer? The reason I ask is that I was trying to find some information about who's doing what but the MPBA links are worse than useless and I can't find any web sites like OMRA or Rob Daniel's for multi. Have you seen anything?
Cheers
Danny
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Great big stickers on the hoop DO NOT LIFT
Ever the optimist?
Should be some pretty boats next year!
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hi danny
yep have done the circuit for a few years , run in two classes very good racing , will be even better this year as the rules have changed and we have 4 yes 4 heats in the day all 8 inms long so running two classes thats a propper days racing ::)
as for this years races first one in april and five more each month , but yes web site prity poor to say the lease :-\
tony
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first one in april and five more each month
FIVE A MONTH - now thats what I call dedication {-) (sorry only kidding - couldn't resist)
How many do you get at an average meeting? I guess most run more than one class. Is this FSR-O or H?
Is anything in any of the mags (I read MB regularly but MMI only occasionally)?
Thanks
Danny
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Is There any body here???????? :)
What shell we talk about??
Come on ! O0 O0
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lets talk about 4 makara's running togrther on Saturday.
Weather forecast is dry, sunny but a bit windy
perfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeect
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Hi Simon.
Yes I have a green light for Saturday. Should be over for 10.00am. I have on loan from Ian a Sanwa rx unit, fingers crossed. I also fonund a beat up but working Futaba rx which I will bring with me. Is there going to be a rescue boat around??
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i have a fishing rod?
will ask martin to bring his tug
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Well half of th MMM got together today. Maiden voyage for Damon's Asbo Makara, Bill kindly joined us and mine had a very brief run on the water.
Damens all run in and performing well, clocked at 33 mph, then he snapped the flexi.
Bill's was running well, similar speeds, damaged the stuffing tube. Unfortunately there was a coming together between Damon's Kyosho RTR with Bill's Enforcer, Bills came off worse and hopefully can be repaired. Rather a large V shaped gash in the starboard side!!
My new AA Bitburger cat performed very well and after running in and very slight tuning gave speeds of 33.4mph. I think that is good for a .21, i am sure you will all let me know?
Unfortunately i was again beset with problems with the Makara, failed receiver, one too many dunkings last year, swapped with a spare and back on the water. Failed rudder servo, swapped with a spare and back on the water. And then the crankshaft seal popped off, therefore no compression, therefore no more running! I think i stood to close to Danny last year!!
A good day needless to say.
Regards
Simon
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Thanks for the report Simon.
You got your BEST results last year when I was standing next to you O0
What's with all these flexi problems? I know you're knocking a lot of BHP through them but there seems to be quite a few 'issues' with them. Is 1/4" strong enough for these engines?
The two Makaras in the pics seem to have a lot of boat out of the water. Was it that rough, or is there some strut/stinger adjustments to be made (or was it just for the GPS {-) {-) )
Bw
Danny
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Hey Danny,
It was a bit wild at times, the orange one has all the weight at the back and Bill was off a wave. Good for the camera though.
1/4 should be fine, just crap flexi's. Have to speak to mr Copley!
Only joking by the way, trust you will standing next to me this year? I can pit for you?
Regards
Simon
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Thats what you get when you try to get to close to the bouy. Still a repair job should get it back in the water very soon. O0 O0 :) {-)
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AL, Pete, Blagmeister where are you and whats happening with your boats?
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Looks like they have gone to ground Simon. Gas coures went real good. got done a day early. O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
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I assume you passed then?
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O yes. it was very stiff but the staff were vey helpfull , there are set time to do the 3 papers but they didnt seem to mind how long it took you to complet. Still now I can get on with my Endforcer rebuild.
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Damon will be pleased! O0
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Yes I bet he will be {-) {-)
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Simon :)
Im in at RED Bull F! in the morn see if i can get your paint code you want. Had a day in the shed, The hole is all done now, Just need to find some paint which matches. Still she should be dryed out in time for a run out on Sunday.
Bill
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pics please?
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Been out testing this morn. Damon. The hole is all repaired and seems to be water tight. My Makara is now off the water for a few weeks till the club engineer makes me up some parts for my Exault pipe
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Hello
Here's one for all you Zen owners. I need to get new spark plugs for both of my boats. What do you all use??? I have a resitor type plug fitted which makes it a pig to start NGK CMR5H. Any info would be helpfull.
Ta very much
Bill.
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HI EVERY ONE NOT BEEN TO WELL OF LATE SO SORRY FOR THE ABSENSE, HOWS EVERY ONES MAKARAS, AND ARE YOU ALL READY FOR A GREAT DAYS RACING IN JUNE.MAD :D ..AL O0
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Hi Al
Sorry to here you have not been well.
We are all still here. doing some final finshing bit to my boat. Should be good for the OMRA session.
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Did a Date ever get set for the Mad Makara man day out????????? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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HI BILL MARK FROM TRAFFORD IS GOING TO HAVE A WORD WITH KINGSBURY FOR A DATE IN JUNE ALL BEING WELL...MAD :D AL O0
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Good Stuff. Sooner the date is set the better as I do tend to be busy during that time.
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HI BILL ITS ABIT LATE NOW TO PHONE MARK BUT ILL EMAIL HIM A GEE HIM UP...HOW THE BOAT NOW BILL WITH THE MODS YOU'VE DONE IS SHE RUNNING QUICKER...MAD :D AL O0
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Still waiting to get the bits back from the club engineer. Should get them next Sunday. The modes are on the EX pipe. I am having an extention block made to go between the header and the head so it lines up better & a Collier to stop the tail pipe cutting into the boat.
None of which will make it go faster but hopfully last longer. Shorted out my RX probs by replacing the unit with a Sanwa rx which works just fine. Had A brill day with Simon and other last Saturday. I only had my old Endforcer to run but I got 3 liters of fuel through it with only driver errors to stop play. Lets hope the Makara dose the same in a few weeks time. At the mo the head- carb- ex pipe are all being worked on. PS got the 257 carb on which did liven things up a bit. O0
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yes they are a good carb the 257 especially if its ported,still nice to here its coming along,should be a good boat when your done....mad :D al O0
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A friendly word from your moderator behave or me will get >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( that is all I will say for now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stavros
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So did we miss something? :(
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stavros
whats up , bill and i went testing with the essex gang of our own free will no one pointing sharp things at us ???
had a grand day and i even got simons engine sorted .............. no problems here ,,,,,,,,, was it ok for you bill ?? :embarrassed:
tony
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One of the best days boating this year. Good company , Brill sunshine, Good water, What more can a boater ask for? O0 O0
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sent an email to mark at trafford regarding m.m day out in june so see what he comes up wit date wise...mad :D al O0
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I thought Blagmeister was a member at Kingsbury?
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yes he is but i mentioned it to mark at our club,thats well in down there and he said he would have a word ,i will pm blagmaster also...al
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on the way home from the essex meet poped into elmbridge and ran a new prop heres the short vid ;)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jLujwc_z1h8
tony
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hi simon thats phil pm'ed so lets see what comes back date wise....mad :D al O0
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Dont you mean, whilst in my lunch hour from work i popped to the lake Tee
O0
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simon yes your right
in my lunch break i parked up the van and just so i was by a little pond some while the tea was on the boil i ran the 35 round and got some vid on the phone {-) {-) {-) {-)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jLujwc_z1h8
tony
ps i had to park up as my clutch return spring had brokern and i had to have a look at it ::)
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ok ok ok
i said i would sort it
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Very impressive Tony. Be nice to see you mixing it with the big boys instead of trying to avoid tripping over the little one on Crabtree. {-)
Danny
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Nice one Tony!! O0
I had to go out on Sunday morn just in case the bits for my boat was done. Still she got her own back she took me to B&Q to buy wallpaper. HUM!! Guess what I'm doing VERY SOON! (it's not boating)
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simon when are you next free for a saturday test ? :P
i would like to test be for the first race as i now have the new hull ;)
i will be leaving the mmm if the hew hull is ok :'( :'( :'( :'(
tony
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watcha got then big fella?
got your clutch bits before you ask
hows saturday week?
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thanks big boy
so that will be sat the 23rd ?
if thats good for you i will but it in my phone O0
tony
ps have all the parts for the blue cat :D so will aim to give it a run
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go for it
might have mk 2 ready as well?
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Hello.
Heres a little ? Some of you may know that Syd passed away last year. He had lots of OMRA stuff as he was a active member for a long time. Stevenage club has been given a electronic lap counter. 2 of the LCD screens don't work ( gone black) which still leaves 10 that do and of course the lap timer. A dose any body know any thing about this unit and if I can get a new LCD screen x2 .
I would like to they to get it back into shape if possible, but I don't want to spend a fortune. It was made in 1993.
ANY HELP OUT THERE??????
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Hi Bill,
Maplin do small lcd screens, have a look on the wesite.
Are you coming out play with us Saturday week?
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Hi Simon
Got to go up to Leicestershire early Saturday afternoon. Sorry not this week.
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Bill203 maplins do a variety of screens starting fom 69p see below
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=12415&FromMenu=y&doy=14m2&MenuName=Seven%20Segment%20Displays
Stavros
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Thanks very much. Lets hope they still make the right LCD. I have been looking at diffrent sites but soo far I have not found any thing to fit the bill. :)
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not this saturday Bill, next?
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May be week after next. I am away all week (work Calls) so will have to be a bit flexible when i get home. Hopfully i will get my engine back on Sunday. If I will need to give it a good run after I rebuild it. At this rate I can see me taking the boat with me next week and do it in my lunch times or the hotel room.
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GOOD NEWS!!!!
Got all the bits for the boat today. refitted all the new parts and all seems well. So Simon I should be out next Saturday to see what happens. O0 O0. That is of course If the lake is not frozen over as it was at Stevenage this morn. 8) :( :( :( 8)
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Bill,
Damon went testing last Thursdayish and managed to break his engine.
Because there was no flexi in the engine/exhaust it snapped the bolts straight out of the crankcase, and took a large chunk with it.
I seem to remember that you had a similar problem with yours and were awaiting some new bits. A spacer with water cooling?
A word of advise, make sure there is flexibility between your engine and your exhaust, if not you will suffer similar damage. The mod we have discussed is to cut the header down and fit one of those stainless flexi pipes in between the header and the exhaust, solder/weld it all together. Plenty of movement!
We don't want yours going the same way?
He has just ordered a replacement to end from bluefishy, an expensive afternoon!
Call me if you want to discuss.
BW
Simon
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Hi fellas
Sorry not to have got back any quicker re the MMM day out. I have had a look at the calendar for 2008 for Kingsbury and it's pretty chokker.
The only Sunday they have available is the 29th [and I am away on my annual jollies so I'd miss that one :( ] They do have some Saturdays available it seems.
Can it be a Saturday or did you want to keep it to a Sunday?
Similarly, it if doesn't have to be June, then July 20th looks free at present.
Lemme know.
Phil
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Either work for me Phil, no racing that weekend.
Parts turned up today from Warehouse hobbies, fantastic. Thanks for the tip off!
BW
Simon
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simon did your shinny parts turn up then ::)
tony
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oh yes, going to have one nice shiny dashboard with lots of bling
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Glad you liked the tip Simon. Make sure you follow the instructions for the dials closely. I tried a different route and screwed it all up majorly. Make sure you usethe nail varnish. I tried modelling glue and it all went to bubbles!
MHZ USA also do some very nice grills and louvres in ally.
Which model figures did you use by the way? My son saw your boat at Kinbgsbury last Nov and thought they were great.
Cheers
Phil
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Phil,
Raided the wife's nail varnish last night, so fingers crossed.
I bought the head and shoulders from Tony Ellis (Model Marine Supplies) and then chopped their heads off. Went on to the Red Bull website and found some ear defenders that came in a small Red Bull Helmets. And luckily enough they were scale size.
I think the quality of the helmets was probably the reason i won the concourse last year.
I have ordered the full figures from warehouse so hope to swap over the helmets again. Tried getting new ones via Red Bull but they don't list them any more. I will have to ask Bill to have a lookout when he goes up there next.
BW
Simon
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What a twit I didn't log off >:( >:(. Still I'm back from my tour of the RAF Norfolk. Thanks Simon for the info. Take some pic's so I can see what you have done. My engine dose have some flex on the mount, but may not be enough. Re the new engine, Have a look at ebay as there is all ways sellers in Hong Kong. They norm get the stuff over very quickly.
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Hi Phil
20th July is good for me. Bill.
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Can we have a show of hands for the 20th July?
As far as I can see at the mo, we potentially have the following from MBM
BigTee [who can even provide a rolling start with a pace boat if we need it!]
Bill
Pete
Al
Simon
Me
Damon
If you can come back with an "Aye" or "Nay" we can at least gauge the level of support.
Cheers!
Phil
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Fellas, I could do with picking your collective brains if poss. I am nearing the end of fabrication on my boat [thankfully!] and it's getting to the point when I can start assembly, [which I reckon will only take a few hours]. However, I still have a few bits to source and as this is my first build of any kind, I could do with some recommendations.
Firstly, which receiver battery pack make would you recommend and where to source from? I am going to be running a cheapy Futaba Attack 2ER and I need to run a 6v Rec. pack of some kind but which make come at a sensible price for power/duration levels?
Additionally, I am going to need a charger. Will I be likely to need to charge my pack between races in which case a 12v charger is favourite, or do you think I can get away with one charge per event? Whichever, which charger would you recommend and please bear in mind that it mustn't break the bank!
Finally, I was thinking of running a bag tank and so I got a 2litre tank from Nimrif when I bought the hull. It seems far too big for the job so first off, what size tank would you recommend for racing and am I going to need any special kit to fit the thing and refill it between heats? I reckon a 1litre tank should be able to fit between my stringers under the radio box, but will it be big enough for racing?
Sorry about the Spanish Inquisition but I am a n00b when it comes to model boats. Full size ones are no problem, but these things are a different ball of wax!
Over to the cognoscenti.......
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phil good to here your on the last leg now , then get it in the water :D
as for rx battery packs go for a " c" size pack with not less that 1200 ah rating they go up in capacity from there onwards but the 1200 will do a full days racing ( well just the one race , after all its omra ::) )
good place to get them is http://www.modelpower.co.uk/ you will also find charges on there as well ( i have a good one that i will sell if you are interested ;) )
fuel tank size will depend on how you run your engine and boat , with my race engine and a 30 min heat 2 lts will just about do :o
if you go for the plastic type 1200 /1500 mls will be more that enough ( make sure you get the correct bung for gas )
there are quick fill set up and i do have them on some hulls but i have damaged an engine due to an air leek on the seal making the engine run very lea >:(n the best and most simple way is to fit a tee inline between the carb and the tank . cap the tee part off and use this to refill , but dont worry abut having to refill between heats as you only get one race per day ;D
hope this helps
tony
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POWER SUPPLY O0
I have used at 6v 1300 maH jelly acid cell from Maplins. Aprox £5.00. You do have to buy a charger ,which again they sell. However It is a mains wallwart type for a slow over night charge. I have got two to make up 12 volts in my Makara to run some fans and dash board lights. I am planing on putting a CCTV on as well very soon.
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Phil,
Aye in the fist instance for Damon and me.
I run a battery pack from Model power NIMH so no memory and go for the type that holds it charge if left for a while. Think they are about £13. You can use your standard transmitter charger but it will take a long time to charge. Work it out with the amps etc. I have got a fast charger from Ripmax, cheap and cheerfull.
A also run a solid tank, 1500cl but they do 1200, 1000 etc. Again cheap from Ripmax or your local Hobby Stores, again about £12-£13.
If you want to give Vic a ring he can post you one, just say you want one the same as mine? 0208-804-7452/07966-273231
BW
Simon
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Aye from Bill for July 20th :D
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Phil
You're only using two servos so even if your rudder one is very high powered you won't need a huge power supply.
I run three servos (incl mixture) with AAA size NmH of 1500mA which usually last a weekend event (no comments about me only doing 5 minutes of a half hour race!!). I would suggest that, as weight is not a major issue in 'D' class, you go for AA size. Model Power do a pack - "6.0 Volt 2400mAh ModelPower NiMh AA House Style Receiver Pack" - for £9.95 which would probably last you a week! I charge mine from the cheapo Futaba charger which, at 45 mA takes ... er .... oh, almost exactly 2 days ::) ::)
I've no idea about tanks so I'll leave that to the experts! Unlike glow engines, I've heard that a sparkie will run for 24 hours on a thimbleful of 2 star - never tried it, but obviously it must be true - and probably at 250 miles per hour as well {-) {-)
Not long until it's time to press the 'GO' button!
Danny
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If you are after batts you wont find cheaper than Component shop 6v2400mah £5.35 I get 5hrs sailing a 10R yacht with a sail winch and rudder so no probs at all wiht what you are using it for and yes you did read right £5.35,£4.60 cheaper
http://www.component-shop.co.uk/html/small_packs.html
Stavros
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Hi Tony. Got your bits you wanted from Syd's collection. When and where will we meet up?
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Thank you all of you who replied to my queries the other day. Your advice has been most helpful. Off to buy some batteries now! O0
Just in case you hadn't seen these before, and by way of gratitude, here are a few clips of full size Makaras [Apaches] really going for it. Some of the footage is absolutely awesome. They really do get some big air!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpj_NYNDKgs - Big Spinout in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6vdTEChas - Mini documentary about team Apache
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cSR2Hay6uc&feature=related - Shame about the music!
Some of you might also like a copy of my desktop wallpaper. See attached.
I'd really like to make a replica Warpath next and install it with twin outdrives and either a Zen 230 twin [to keep it Omra eligible] using the Bonzi twin as a base and going for the 230 block and piston. MHZ do a load of really nice shiny bits and they also do a 60" Apache Hull..... :o Now all I have to decide is which Petrol station to rob to fund it!
My bilge paint arrived this morning so I have been and painted out the engine bay in nice shiny black which will hopefully look the part against the ally brackets and black radio box. The bilge paint is water, oil and fuel resistant so it will hopefully keep the bay in good nick. Can't wait for it to dry so I can start final assembly! Andy P said last week that he should hopefully be sending off my exhaust today so I might even manage to get some testing in this weekend!!! WOOHOO! :D
Cheers
Phil
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Phil,
When i saw Andy P Saturday he was finishing your manifold and he had the cones and all ready so i am sure it will be with you this week.
I fancied making a true relica Warpath with twin Z drives and twin 23's.
The costs have put me off though, dont worry about the fuel, have you priced up the kit needed, two of everything?
No real power or speed advantage but would look cool.
Dont race it if you want to keep a very expensive paint job though!
If that bladder bag is surplas i will take it off your hands?
When i painted mine out on the inside i wish i had added a coloured gell coat to the epoxy, that way when you want to add or restick bits you dont have to grind all that new paint off, hopefully you will not go through the pain i did last year.
Regards
Simon
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Hi Simon
Thanks for the heads-up on the pipe. I hope Andy does manage to get it to me this week as I am planning on doing the maiden run this Sunday!
The 2L bag tank I will use for racing as I can still use the tank although I won't fill it completely unless conditions dictate so. I am going to use a smaller tank for testing. Hopefully it will fit under my radio box between the box and the shaft.
Yes, the Warpath replica is very tempting but I can't see much change out of about £1500 to do it properly. Still we can dream can't we!?
I thought about adding a colourative to the resin on the engine bay but thought better of it at the death as it would have held me up even longer while I sourced one suitable. I dont' mind grindng a bit of paint of if necessary. I can soon touch it up again!
Incidentally, are you running a nylon bush between your drive dog and strut, or have you just allowed for a slight gap to allow for torque takeup in the flexi? I am having the devil's own job in finding an RC supplier that lists them! I dare say I could mince down to the local hardware store and see if he has any nylon 3/16 ID washers but I want to make sure I get the right sort. My drive dog also seems bl**dy tight to get on the shaft too. did you have to drift yours on before tightening up the set screw? It may be that my shaft has a couple of burrs which are making the process a little sticky but when in doubt, a large hammer should prevail! Let me know before I embark on the less than subtle solution!! :D
Cheers
Phil
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Phil,
I wish i was running a bush! I managed to snap another shaft on Saturday, did not leave enough of a gap and the dog buried itself in the strut and then the shaft snapped!
Live an learn!
I dont normally bother, just leave a gap between 6 and 10 mm, if the shaft touches it will chew a bit of nylon up. My dog was also tight, i put it in the lathe with a bit of emery and tidied it all up.
BW
Simon
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Phil/Simon
I know your engines are putting out some mean power but there must be something wrong somewhere to keep getting wound up flexis. The "twist" in a 1/4" shaft of 12 - 15" length should be no more than 3-4mm max otherwise it's going to distort (and break). If its shortening more than 5mm, I would suspect something wrong with the flexi manufacture or material.
You can (and should) use a PTFE thrust washer to avoid metal/metal contact between the dog and shaft end. You can get them from Bernard Holder (phone no in OMRA newsletter) or Mark Copley
http://www.mcopracing.co.uk/16253.html (http://www.mcopracing.co.uk/16253.html) (they are under drive dogs).
Give the boat a SHORT run and check for wearof the PTFE, if there is any significant amount the inner needs easing back. Set is so that you are just getting contact then leave an extra mm gap.
If you want ultimate speed - use radial thrust washers from SMB (Sub Miniature Bearings).
BW
Danny
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Hi. Saturday was not kind to us Mad Makara man. Simon's drive shaft, Mine rolled over on the turn , Wet radio, Wet engine, Water in the fuel tank. Oh yes Wet trollys and boot's trying to get it back to shore. NOT ON OF MY BETTER DAYS :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :'( :'( >>:-( Still The radio has dryed out, The engine is now running, and my boots dryed out just in time to go back to work this morn.
Roll on next Sunday when I can do it all agian. I have taken the gell batterys out and gone back to AA cells to run the radio.
Martin. I am still trying to track down one of them ally lunch boxes to use as a radio box. The link you left seems to have sold out.
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Sorry to hear about your problems but thats boating for yaa ;D,yes they seem to have sold out maybe send them an email see if they plan on getting any more.As for your batterys for the rx get a 5 cell nimmh hump pack, no memory and hrs of runtime.I charge mine for an hr before i run to top it up and it lasts all afternoon.Simon i have to agree with Danny if you keep breaking flexis something is badly wrong i havent brok one yet in 2 yrs boating.I leave a 1/4 "gap between dog and strut hub,my strut has a brass hub i have a brass thrust washer too but it never touches the hub so its not even needed.
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Bill they have them in stock now ill pm you a link.
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I dare say I could mince down to the local hardware store and see if he has any nylon 3/16 ID washers but I want to make sure I get the right sort.
Phil,
Do you mean your flexishaft is 3/16" ?
Ian
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if you use 3/16 instead of 1/4" your asking for trouble if your running a gas motor ???.
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Hello Mad Makara Men.
Did or big day out ever get settled on a date???. :) :)
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not sure?
Not heard from the others for a while?
I thought Phil was a member?
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Well so far July 20th looks favourite but I have only heard from a couple of you guys. If you want me to go ahead and pop the question to the KWPMBC I can certainly do that with pleasure. Lemme know.
Phil
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Still YES to the 20th july For the Mad Makara big day out. {-) {-) {-) O0 O0 O0 :)
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Hello
Is there any on out there has a 1/4 scale servo for sale?? If yes email me with how much you are looking for. If not it will be a trip down to Hobby Store.
Bill
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How's the new top comming along Phil :) :) :) :)
Wher Have al the MAD MAKARA Members gone too???? {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Bill,
As you said in your other post. Mad working on the boats trying to get them ready for next weekend.
I had a late night screwing everything together and we have been out today, Damon and Tony. Damons boat is back on the water although he blew another exhaust, my problems have been ironed out with the flexi etc, apart from now i have radio glitching. Bloody boats. Tony is running well.
Looking forward to a bit of racing next Sunday.
BW
Simon
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Hi Simon
Been out with the FG and filler this week. The rudder went up when it hit something in the water at WGC on weds . Lost control and it hit the brick work. Front and rear damage but its all repaired now.
Phil came down to Stevenage last Sunday. Good looking boat. It was riding a big high in the front so a little weight was added which seem to do the trick. Pity he then lost the lid. No buoyancy fitted. ::)
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Bill,
Pm me your number, i will give you a ring?
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Hi Bill. New lid arrived the other day. I am waiting for some s/steel rod to arrive to glass in to the leading edge rather than using the brackets that I used before to secure it and I will be getting some motorbike fairing clips for the back end of the hatch. I don't think the 50mm bolt was secure enough and it must have vibrated open which caused the lid to pop off.
I have also had to find some new louvres so they won't be ready until Wednesday or so, so the last few days of next week will be a mad dash to get it painted and ready for next Sunday. Looks like testing this week will have to be done without the lid :S Fingers crossed....
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Hi Phil
No sign of your lid yet. We are keeping a look out for it. Take a look at my last posting to see what happened to engine this morn.
I wasn't planning to be at Eastbourne next week which as it turns out is just as well. Trying to get a whole new engine from Bluefishy now. Look like a trip out to see him.
Bill. peed off, feed up Skint. :(
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bill give me a ring as i can help you out with an engine
tony
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Hi Bill just got back from work to see your post and the engine damage. Unlucky that, Bill. Maybe your shunt the other day did more damage than you realised? It's a real shame about the engine as your boat was flying last weekend and looked all ready to go for the start of the season.
I am sure Big Tony will be able to help you out with a proper new block but just in case you hadn't seen it already, as a backup Tony Gilder has a Zen 260 which might be worth a look at as as standby unit.
http://www.omra-uk.org/for_sale.htm
If I had the readies I'd bag it just in case my block develops any problems!
Hope you manage to get something sorted soon.
Thanks for keeping a weather eye out for my lid! Hopefully this next one won't come off!!!!
Cheers
Phil
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Hi Tony
I have bit the bullet and been to see Bluefishy. Got a Sikk . Now all I have to do is fit it and run it in.
Thanks anyway. I was thinking about changing it anyway but at the end off the year. Still Fate!!!
May well be after Exhaust bits as I think the MHZ/G pipe may be a bit to heavy hanging on the head. any Ideas
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hi bill , no problem on the engine , have one to lend you if you did not get one from barry
do you want to sell whats left ? always looking for spares ;)
tony
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HI Tony
Yes To selling the old lump. Also have a brand new Carb Walbro WT771. Im fitting my 257 carb.
I am still looking for a better EX header and 90 bend. May well be willing to swop engine ect.
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bill sounds good i will dig out all the headers i have and you can have a look to see if there is any on that will fit your requirements
hi blagmeister , your boats comming on good looking forward to seeing you sunday
bigtee / tony gilder the same dude :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
tony
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Glad you got sorted Bill id ditch that heavy pipe maybe that had something to do with the motor failure?,Tony how olds the motor? how much use has it had mate.Not sure i can afford it right now but ill be needing one for the new hydro im going to build if you still have it come summer {-).ill be doing mine as a scale version of this one hopefully.
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mart don't know much about the engine ,it came from one of the club members when the club closed down :'(
looks OK plenty of compression and i have run it in the hull it was in , comes with pipe and header carb ect
looked at your lastest vid , now thats proper offshore racing :D if thats the water conditions you get then you will have to hold a race up there O0
tony
ps still in the mmc , just but have new hull for the twins and 35 ::)
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Just my luck mate no funds for it right now,glad you liked the vid ;) as for holding a race well i doubt that will happen its a yacht club mainly ::) and they race every Sunday starting end of this month so we will probably start using the other lake on a Sunday but Saturdays we can use that one as they dont run Saturdays.What new hulls you got mate care to enlighten me or is it a secret ;),if i come into some money in the next day or so ill be in touch about the motor O0.
Mart
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The New engine has had it's 1st run today. (very slowly) I like it. Should have fitted a new lump when I 1st built my Makara back in Dec.
Oh well you live and learn.
WHEN IS THE "MAD MAKARA BIG DAY OUT??????? ;D
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Bill,
Got my new paint job done today.
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet {-)
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Hi Simon
On which boat?
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The Makara
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Still awaiting a reply from KWPMBC about the Mad Makara Day Out. I will let everyone know as soon as I hear anything.
Incidentally, as well as getting together to have a bit of an informal thrash, should we make this a bit of a social event too? Family members along for the ride? Get a barbie or something going? I know KWPMBC do an annual barbie at least once a year on the Evening Sail event, they might allow us to do the same if we ask nicely and providing it doesn't breach Park Rules.
Pre-empting a positive response from the club, we might like to think about what we are going to do on the day other than just chucking the boats in and going for it! Suggestions please and if all goes well, I'll be happy to organise it.
Cheers [mine's a pint!]
Phil
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Phil,
Sounds like a dam good idea, familly and food and the park. Plenty for all to do.
Tony has agreed to act as a safety boat for a rolling start so we can have a race or two.
Is it not what we usually do down the lake but with more Makara's.
Remember Paul has offered a shield of some descript?
BW
Simon
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any news on a date yet ::)
tony
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Still waiting to hear back from KWPMBC Tony. If don't hear in the next couple of days, I'll bung another letter over to the Commodore this time. [Nothing quite like rattling the cages... !]
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thanks phil
hows the testing going ::) ::) ::) ::)
are you doing the chase boat race ?
tony
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I was hoping to get some testing done over the Easter break whilst I am down here in Wales as I am booked in for the Chase Race. I was hoping to get some proper sea time in with the boat but the weather is far too rough. Its blowing about a 6-7 Northerly and peeing down most of the time. :( I'll have to wait until I get back next week to Kingsbury.
In the meantime, the pub is beckoning and there is a pint of Rev. James with my name on it!
Cheers!
Phil
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Hi Phill
Not much boating going on here. Snow Stoped play this morn.
Got my new Sikk engine going at about 3/4 power now. I was out with Simon and Damon Friday and clock it on a GPS at 33.7 MPH :) :)
It gave me no troubles all morn.
I am not going to Torquey as I get sea sick and that would be No fun at all for me in a chase boat. My 1st race should be Bristol.
Have a pint for me
Bill. O0 O0 O0
DANNY. Who do I contact for the Bristol meeting ? A phone number would be Grand.
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Hi Bill
The contact for Bristol is Phil Locke on 01179 604959
This might work (I'm still working on the site!) -
http://www.omra-uk.org/venue_bristol.htm (http://www.omra-uk.org/venue_bristol.htm)
BTW You would have NO chance of getting seasick in a chase boat - you're FAR too busy thinking of all the other things you have to do to worry about the boat bobbing up and down a bit!
Danny
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hay danny
hope this year you are not going to be throwing bits and bobs in the water :)
seem to remember you having a small over board ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
still at look on the bright side i am pitting / camara man for simon :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
soooooooooooo looking forward to it
tony
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Hi Bill
The contact for Bristol is Phil Locke on 01179 604959
This might work (I'm still working on the site!) -
http://www.omra-uk.org/venue_bristol.htm (http://www.omra-uk.org/venue_bristol.htm)
BTW You would have NO chance of getting seasick in a chase boat - you're FAR too busy thinking of all the other things you have to do to worry about the boat bobbing up and down a bit!
Danny
Cheers Danny. will try and call Phil and book in.
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hope this year you are not going to be throwing bits and bobs in the water :)
No Tony, this year it will be BOAT in the sea and TRANSMITTER stays with me ::) ::)
Could have been worse - what's the new phrase - "doing a Simon"? where the boat and tranny stay in the boat and YOU ......
{-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Looking forward to it too O0
Danny
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Ok Big boys with their toys!!!! How many of you DAre to come to hte Mayhem Weekend in Wales and show your toys off
Stavros
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what date is it ?
tony
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30/31st August see thread about it in Model boating section
Stavros
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This is not a show,see the Mayhemers weekens in sunny LLanberis, come on down and run the dammed things,you got over 2miles of water to play with.
Stavros
Hi Stavros
Tell me more about this weekend. I could be interested.
Bill
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looks like its mainly for the scale boaters not us gassers {-).
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Excuse me but as I am the ORGANISER and am giving you the chance to run your beasts on our lake well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or is it a SAD case that the ic Boys are better than us the scale modeler sound to me as If you lot don't want to come and play I say YOU ARE CHICKENS cluck cluck O0 ;) ;) ;D {-) {-)
You might be glad of the invitation next year Mart as I hear that Fleetwood is going to be a car park O0
Stavros
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Stavros,
Be carefull where you go chucking that tared, brush. {-)
I was a scale guy and still am, long before i got onto the racing scene. In fact when racing got quiet last year i started a tug for towing etc.
I was at the first Mayhem bash last year at Wickstead, both days so got drowned on the Sunday and had to have my caravan towedd out of the field. And that was with 2 RTTL's and my Dutch harbour tug.Hope to make it up there with some of my scale boats as well as the racers.
Regards
Simon
O0
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Dose any one use this site? :)
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I have finally had a reply from KWPMBC regarding the Makara Day Out proposed for this year. In principle there are no objections, however the issue of insurance has been raised and we may need OMRA approval as the most sensible way around it is to run it as an OMRA event but not part of the championship calendar. I don't know if OMRA will go for this as it is a social event rather than a race meet but I will ask the questions and report back on the outcome.
Should permission be granted by OMRA to run it as a social event, then the only proviso to participating will be that anyone who wishes to be involved will need to be an OMRA member to qualify for the insurance cover.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers
Phil.
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For what it is worth, Phone Alan or Danny and they should be able to give an answer. I guess most of the Mad Makara men are in OMRA, and as I run on my own lake here at Stevenage I am covered by OMRA insurance. As for the social side of it BBQ etc I'm not sure. prob not. However you can get liability insurance to cover you for the day very cheaply.
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Often Mart, things are not as simple as they may appear and when multiple insurance policies are concerned, it is important to get things right as cover may not be valid under certain circumstances. I am seeking clarification and will advice those concerned as soon as I have the relevant info.
Cheers
Phil
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Hello. The Stevenage branch of the Mad Makara men has just got from a good day's racing at Bristol. I am not 100% sure but I think I came in 4th or 5th, But I did pick up Concours Thing a me jig. Phil has got a new air vent in his boat. OPPs I heard him say. My partner Ian will be rebuliding both his engines over the next few weeks.
Oh well best get of and polish this thing.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D O0 O0 O0
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Well done Bill,
Keeping the end up for the Makara's!
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Going to try! Off for a beer now. O0
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Well done Bill - the results are on the OMRA site, pretty close O0
Danny
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Well done Danny, you are allowed to finish higher than eighth you know. :-\
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Dicky
Have a look at the photo of Phil's lad Cameron in the OMRA photo gallery and all will be explained {-) {-)
Danny
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Hi Danny
I got hold of Stewart & found out I was in jouti place for 3rd. The count back put me in 4th. Not bad for it's 1st race. O0 66 laps in all is my best so far, so I am very happy with that.
How are your boat?
See you at Stevenage.
PS looking forwards to getting into OMRA web site real soon.
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Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings Danny!!!
Great pic! Cam will be chuffed to bits when I show him in the morning!
PMd you BTW...
Cheers
Phil
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Hi Danny
I got hold of Stewart & found out I was in jouti place for 3rd. The count back put me in 4th. Not bad for it's 1st race. O0 66 laps in all is my best so far, so I am very happy with that.
How are your boat?
See you at Stevenage.
PS looking forwards to getting into OMRA web site real soon.
If you want to see the Bristol results and the photos page, I reckon these links should work for you.
http://omra-uk.org/resultsAAD08_bristol.htm
http://omra-uk.org/photo_gallery.htm
Top of "D" class was very close - only five laps between first and fifth....
Ian
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Have a look at the photo of Phil's lad Cameron in the OMRA photo gallery..
Would love to Danny but with Firefox at home and work I STILL can't navigate the site >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( yep I'm going to keep nagging ;) ;)!!!!!!
The direct links in work, some nice looking boats there O0
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Have a look at the photo of Phil's lad Cameron in the OMRA photo gallery..
Would love to Danny but with Firefox at home and work I STILL can't navigate the site >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( yep I'm going to keep nagging ;) ;)!!!!!!
The direct links in work, some nice looking boats there O0
Ian,
The photo Danny mentioned is on the photos page in the second link - third row, far right....
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Hi Ian How's the engine rebuilding going? Will you get something running for Stevenage?
Thanks for the link. It was very close in the D class race. Anyway we still had a good day out, didn't we? O0
How's the Stevenage booking going. HINT HINT. If any one is thinking of comming to Stevenage on the 4th May . BOOK IN PLEASE.
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Booked in already Bill [at least Ian has got my details......] All I have to do now is get my boat back into racing fettle! :O
Cheers
Phil
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Dicky
Have a look at the photo of Phil's lad Cameron in the OMRA photo gallery and all will be explained {-) {-)
Danny
Love to Danny, still can't get on it. >>:-( >>:-(
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Been on it and cant find no piccie of Cameron
Stavros
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http://omra-uk.org/CameronDanny.JPG
There you go Gents. O0
As you can see, Cam was wholly to blame for Danny's collision with the dock, [never listen to smart-mouthed kids.....] and if I wasn't feeling so magnanimous towards my son, I'd blame him for the crash I had with another boat too!!! {-)
Cheers!
Phil
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Really Danny, blaming a nice kid like that for finishing in your usual position. Should be ashamed of yourself.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/1986671973.jpg)
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Hi Phil
Has Camaron worked out how to make baby Toyota's yet?? O0 O0
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Hi Ian How's the engine rebuilding going? Will you get something running for Stevenage?
Thanks for the link. It was very close in the D class race. Anyway we still had a good day out, didn't we? O0
How's the Stevenage booking going. HINT HINT. If any one is thinking of comming to Stevenage on the 4th May . BOOK IN PLEASE.
Hi Bill,
Just been trying to produce a head button for a RB Concepts engine I've had hanging around for ages. It came with a one-piece heatsink and head button, so I had to hack the top off - then face turn it flat. Hopefully the water jacket from the Novarossi I ran on Sunday should fit. They're Novarossi based, but unfortunately the RB is a short-stroke, and the Nova's a long stroke, so the bore is different (ie the button from the Novarossi won't fit the RB engine). All being well, it should make a pretty decent AA class engine.
Started rebuilding what was my backup CMB .45. Finished rebuilding and trueing the crank, which is probably the most time consuming job. Need to change the bearings and put back together with a new piston and liner. The next most time consuming job is putting the "C" clip back in the piston - through the exhaust port. Definitely a job for a gynaecologist on the .45. That particular engine trashed the piston and liner when the "C" clip came out at full speed. I haven't had much luck with CMB .45s so far....
My Makara turned up yesterday. Don't think I'll have it ready for Stevenage though.
Ian
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Welcome to the Mad Makara Men club Ian. All you need is a Zen to go in it now. I have one that needs a new head and carb on it.
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Hi Ian - it might be well worth doing what Bill suggested to me on Sunday to your Makara hull before you go fitting it out. You'll probably have noticed that the layup is really quite thin and in places the hull is weak and flexes like mad, [as well as succumbing structurally to the ministrations of errant competitors set on torpedoing you!]. Bill suggested mixing up a load of liquid resin and sloshing it around the inside of the hull to give it another layer of thickness on the grp. Wish I had thought of that before last weekend....
Even with full length 9mm stringers coated in glass plus a grp-sheathed solid wooden radio box, my hull is still too light, and it showed on Sunday in the rougher water. A bit of extra layup won't do it any harm ;)
Glad you got one though! Thats another nutcase to join the crew!
Incidentally, some good news back from OMRA regarding the Makara day out. Alan emailed me today and basically gave us OMRA's blessing and also stated that the OMRA insurance is open and covers us all the time, and not just on OMRA sanctioned events. Robin Butler [KWPMBC Offhore Sec.] has kindly offered to pencil in the date in July for us in the Kingsbury calendar, so it looks like the day will be a runner at this point in time. I may need to firm up a few other issues such as whether or not we can get permission for a BBQ within the park boundary during public hours but leave it with me and I'll keep you all posted here.
Cheers!
Phil
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Phil,
I'll be building mine for "C" Class, so it will be slightly different - no stringers for a start.
I'm debating whether to strengthen it or not. Resin on its own will make it more rigid, and heavier, but probably not much stronger. Polyester resin on its own is pretty weak, so another layer of layup would add a lot more strength. Or maybe mix chopped strands in with the resin, and paint it on.
If you do slosh the resin around, try to make sure it doesn't pool too much anywhere, or it will tend to get rather hot as it goes off.
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Hi Ian
Any more bookings For Stevenage?
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Get some matting and use epoxy and that will strengthen it no end,epoxy will cure on poly no problem and its way stronger too!!.To be honest i dont know how they get away with laying those hulls so thin ::),you could get an aeromarine appache for not much more and know your getting quality sorry to bang on but thats my honest opinion ;).Phil told ya insurance is insurance O0!!
Mart
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.Phil told ya insurance is insurance O0!!
Mart
Indeed it is Mart however, KWPMBC quite rightly raised the issue of having more than one insurance for potentially the same event which is not permissible under UK law. They simply wanted clarification that the OMRA insurance would be suitable for this event which gladly, it is. It's always best to be belt and braces in all things which have a potentially legal connotation in my book.
Cheers!
Phil
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Yea your completeley right mate just having a little fun ;D,gets me in trouble sometimes ::).
Mart
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Mart,
The Makara is about the same size as the Giant Apache. Even a UK made Giant Apache will set you back about £170 these days. The "real" Aeromarine ones are about that in US dollars - Plus god knows how much shipping from the US, then UK duty. The finish of the Makara is definitely not the best I've seen, and I'd say the mould has a few cracks now, but it is very cheap for its size, and most of them seem to work pretty well.
I'm with you on epoxy though. I've used it on polyester hulls with success.
Bill,
Apart from those who gave me entries at Bristol, one more this week so far...
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You can pick up an aeromarine one cheap and even with shipping still be reasonably pleased with it,duty whats that never had to pay any on anything {-),mind you most of my stuff was sent as a gift :).My mate bought an aeromarine hull not long ago and was still as cheap as his cat he sent back to you know who even with shipping and guess what the boats awesome quallity wise.Not sure if anyone this side of the pond has the aeromarine hulls in stock.?
Mart
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The finish of the Makara is definitely not the best I've seen, and I'd say the mould has a few cracks now, but it is very cheap for its size
By the time you've strengthened it and so on, is it still as cheap?
Just as an aside, has anyone tried the Prestwich Miami 55 (£159) that's a good price and Daves quality is good on his other hulls.
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The finish of the Makara is definitely not the best I've seen, and I'd say the mould has a few cracks now, but it is very cheap for its size
By the time you've strengthened it and so on, is it still as cheap?
Just as an aside, has anyone tried the Prestwich Miami 55 (£159) that's a good price and Daves quality is good on his other hulls.
Ian i wasnt sure about mentioning the miami as i didnt know if Dave made it or not but that said ive heard its a nice hull,also he is now selling apaches i believe 56" ones not sure whos they are but they arent on his site yet but Brod got one la cpl of weeks ago and it flies with the zen 7.heres a vid.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1820377 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1820377)
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HELLO ANY ONE AROUND?
how's the rebuild going Phil?
Off to the lake in the morn for a bit of a run out. O0
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How are the Mad Makara Day out plan going???
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Hi Bill,
All gone quiet around here. They are all being rebuilt after the last couple of races. After all they are not that well built, know what i mean.
Damonshas been rebuilt and will be something to reckon with. Mine is ok, going to have a play on Friday as got the day off.
Are you going to Kingsbury?
BW
Simon
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Hi Simon
I am hoping to be at Kingsbury, but I have a sound job on Sat and it depends on what time I hit my bed Sat/Sun morn.
My radio box held up very well after turning it over at Stevenage. I had to straighten out the rudder. I must have hit something during the race which flipped me over.
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I ended up with quite a few new dings in the boat after Stevenage, dont remember hitting anything.
One very nasty one on the port rear chine. right through to the matting
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I have seen the Carp that have been netted out of the lake ready for the water level drop next week. They are 20/30 pound. If we hit one of them I think the boat would come of worse.
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I am thinking of putting my Endforcer up for sale. I'm not sure how much to ask for it. What do you think?
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Why?
Could be interested, is it complete?
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Hi Simon I am thinking of building one of John Smiths boats for next year. So I will have to make some room for it in my shed + some Duse to go towards it would be helpfull.
My endfrocer as you know has a repair in it where Dameon hit it + a few battle wounds. I need to refit the tuned pipe back. I took it out to see if it would fit into the Makara when i was having fun and games. It will take me an hour then it's ready to run. I should put it on my list to be done over the weekend. I will be selling it complet with all the radio gear. All you will need is a crystal and TX to run it.
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I have seen the Carp that have been netted out of the lake ready for the water level drop next week. They are 20/30 pound. If we hit one of them I think the boat would come of worse.
Don't worry Bill they're all dead floating around the side of the lake now :)
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Hi All
Just poped into the Mayhem show at Wicksteed park. Not bad? The Life boat boys are for me steeling the show. Lovely bits off kit.
How about setting up a show off Makara's next year?
Bill.
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No one here either ;)
Are you all playing hide n' seek 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Comming to find you.
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HELLO
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hi bill
did you get the cooling sorted on your makara ? hope you did not damage the new engine ???
tee
ps what your next race ?
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Hi Tony
I strip all the cooling circuit out and could not find any blocks in it? I have now put a second pick up point over the prop direct the the engine. The ex pipe & manifold cooling is of the old rudder pickup point. I hope to get down the lake on Sunday morn to test it out.
I may make it to Byn back. I have booked in but got a heavy day on Sat and may not be in a fit state. I will how ever be in Devise Wilts so 1/2 way there.
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Keeping up the Makara flag. take a look at the photo of the month. :)
I thank you {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Hi All
Just poped into the Mayhem show at Wicksteed park. Not bad? The Life boat boys are for me steeling the show. Lovely bits off kit.
How about setting up a show off Makara's next year?
Bill.
Why not do it THIS YEAR at the LLanberis weekend in August
Stavros
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Hi Stavros
Tell me more?
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Read all about it
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5993.0
Stavros
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Dose any one Else fancy a run up to north Wales 30th/31st Aug to the Mayhem show.
I was hoping to get a few boats on show at Wicksteed next year, but it would seem we will have some water to run on at this show.
It would be nice to show of our boats. O0
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And theres no racing that weekend, maybe worth a treck Bill?
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Are you there Phil? How do you fancy a trip to North Wales?
I am free that weekend but I am not flying the flag on my own. I think there is camping nearby. I will try and find out.
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Yeah I would be up for that Bill. At present I don't have any work scheduled in for that weekend so unless I get a gig in the meantime, I am up for that.
Count me in.
Phil
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Thats what I want to hear
Stavros
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Now I have had a look at all the pics, and I thought I was mad running high speed straight runners, but you lot need those special white coats and padded rooms. But what you really need to do is come to Llanberis and show us mere (sane) mortals
what it's all about
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White coats :D At the mo it looks like 3 Makara boats are interested in showing our ware's Just got to get the B&B shorted.
Oh yes buy fast we mean somewhere between 30 to 40 mph is norm. Hope theres lots of water?? {-) {-) We have tracked them with GPS so this is not just us boasting it's fact.
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Two more
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Bill,
Did you manage to test your new cooling arrangement yesterday ?
Anyone got any news on the Makara day out ? Is it definitely 20th July (can't make it) ?
Done a little bit more on my Makara.
After much procrastination - whether to add anything to the hull, whether to:
1) Lay up with more Polyester / GF
2) Paint on epoxy / chopped strands / microfibres mix
3) Lay up with epoxy / GF
After guesstimating how much (expensive) epoxy I'd need, I finally went for 1); so I should end up with a much heavier boat - even if it's not any stronger. I just hope it sets - the polyester resin's been in my shed for about three years. The mat came in two strips, so I've laid one each side - from almost the top of each side, to about an inch or so above the keel. I think it was a metre long, so I've done about the rearmost two thirds of the boat that way.
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Hi Ian
I put another pick over the prop but it didn't do much. Spent the afternoon in the swapping over the water pump from the Endforcer, and fitting a low pick up point. Seems OK in the garden. I am going to blow out Bryn Bach next weekend till I get a bit more testing done. Hopfully it will be OK for Branston. O0
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Dont remember seeing those pictures before Bill?
Sorry to hear you are not coming Sunday, chuck it in and see what happens?
BW
Simon
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Hi All
The Makara Day Out is indeed scheduled for the 20th July but I am still waiting to hear back from Robin Butler about what is happening. In theory there should be no probs as we have OMRA cover but it's whether or not the Park will allow it.
Protocol demands that we approach KWPBC and do it all properly but failing that, there is nothing to stop ppl turning up and making a day of it so long as there are KWPMBC members on hand to operate the rescue boat {Me!}
I'll hassle Rob this week before my hols. and let you all know.
Bill, Where is this pic of the month? linky please?
Cheers all
Phil.
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Phil,
Go to the main modelboatmayhem website and look for the picture of the month on the lh menu.
Are you running Sunday?
Regards
Simon
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Hi Simon
Will e mail the Pic's I took at the Bristol pair meet last year.
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Phil,
Go to the main modelboatmayhem website and look for the picture of the month on the lh menu.
Are you running Sunday?
Regards
Simon
Hi Simon
Sorry but away on my annual jollies for 2 weeks as from Sat, so I miss both Bryn Bach and Branston. Do me a fave and text me the D class results would you?!!
Have a good race and don't bend it!
Cheers
Phil
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Simon
How many runs are we going to get on Sunday? Have you found out yet? The other thing is I may not get there before 10.00am prob just after I think. I will give you a call on Sat IF I am going to try and get there.
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100% guarenteed 2 runs
may be be 2 20's, or 15 and 20 or 2 15's
depends on boats that turn up
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Have a look at Model boats mag July. Not 1 but 2 Makara on the OMRA pages. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mine & Dave Halls C164.
It's got my best side I think {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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There's 3 Bill - mine is on the following page. Although the photo has oddly made me look like a right bloater! Cam got his nose in too!
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Your Riight Phil. Sorry Can't count. Have a good Hols
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Hello All.
Been out with my Makara this afternoon. I seem to have shorted out my water cooling prob's So as long as the hangover isn't to bad on Sunday morn I should be in Wales.
Took a look at your OMRA linked site Phil. VERY GOOD. Nice job.
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IS THERE ANY BODY THERE??? :D
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here i am bill {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
do you want me to send your pipe of to you tomorrow ? its all ready to go if so
simons engine trashed looks like a bearing has given up and bits gone through the engine , not a preaty sight :'( :'( :'(
still he has a nice new one now ready for this weekend ,and i have a run in one for him to use ::) ::)
big tee
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Hi Tony.
Yes please to the Ex pipe. I have fitted the stinger off the Endforcer to my Makara today. I have decided Not to go next Sunday. 1 I want to keep the boat in one bit for Weymouth and as i said IF it goes wronge I will not have any time to fix it. ( Hols). 2 I have just been to pick up from Heathrow the Ozy branch of the family & I suspect I will have to be a the Family garthering next Sunday Lunch time. 3 I can try and tune the boat with the correct pipe on next Sunday morn. Maybe bring My Ozy Uncle to show him how it's done over here.
I take it you now have my Address????
Cheers for now
Bill
PS Have filled the Hole in the Hole. Good us new now.
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Opps Forgot
Where's the pic's of Simons lump??
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bill i will get it in the post to you tomorrow
will try to get some pictures up of the engine , not much to look at just a mess !!!!!!!!!
big tee
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Hi Tony
Have finshed of the Stinger set up. Lets hope it improves things a bit?
Looking forward to receiving the pipe to see how much difference it makes.
I take it I go back to 1 turn on the high & 2 on the low settings on the carb?
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Hello one and all. B hot down here in Majorca. Seen some big Fairline boats in the marina, No models though. Be back in time for Weymouth next Sunday. Looking forward to it. O0 O0
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Hello one and all. B hot down here in Majorca. Seen some big Fairline boats in the marina, No models though. Be back in time for Weymouth next Sunday. Looking forward to it. O0 O0
Where you at Bill Calador by any chance?.
Mart
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Hi Mart
Cal o dor, It,s still very hot here. Be back at home late Friday night. . All the Best :'( :'( :'(.
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I was there about 3 weeks ago we stayed in cala egos,nice area i got some nice pics of that magnum offshore boat O0.
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HI DE HI
I'm back , Its raining and for once I don't mind to much.
Yes Martin we stayed at the Hotel Roco marina just outside Cal egos. Small but nice?
See All you OMRA folks in Weymouth Sunday morn. Im off to my own bed now. Nite Nite. :-\ :-\
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HI DE HI
I'm back , Its raining and for once I don't mind to much.
Yes Martin we stayed at the Hotel Roco marina just outside Cal egos. Small but nice?
See All you OMRA folks in Weymouth Sunday morn. Im off to my own bed now. Nite Nite. :-\ :-\
I know the hotel you stayed at we stayed at the marina skorpios hotel had our own beach and cove,it was absoluteley brilliant never had such good food in a hotel either,carvery every night diff meats and the rest of the food was great too.Weather here has been a joke but im not laughing ,havent had much time for boating its been so bad >>:-(.
Mart
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Ok Big boys with their toys!!!! How many of you DAre to come to hte Mayhem Weekend in Wales and show your toys off
Stavros
Hello All you Mad Makara men.
Not one of my better day's out yesterday. As Simon say's " Thats racing"
Ok as the folks at Kingsbury have let us down for next Sunday. It's a reel pity me thinks. Well Done Phil for all your work on trying to get it all together. Thanks for trying.
Now Windermere is also OFF as well. How do you feel about going to the Mayhem weekend??? I am free and would be happy to Show & run during the Sat Sun 30th 31st Aug. But one boat on it's own is not going to cut it. Seem's we have lots of water to play with if we can get a rescue boat we have got just about all we need for loads of time on the water.
Stavros. Is there camping on Site? can you feel us all in with more detail, how much will it cost etc.
Cheers for now
Bill
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bill... souds like a weekend me and the boys could come to ...long drive but could be up for it if there aint to many boats coming as we brand shiny new to the sport
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Hi There
Where about are you from?
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we from plymouth . came to weymouth this weekend and enjoyed every minute of it !!! we camped at sealife centre ect
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Nice part of the Country.
Yes I stayed at Lodmore country park in a tent on Saturday night. I had a pitch next to Kurt. It's all good fun. Got very damp at night. I had to dry the tent out over the washing line today before I packed it up in its bag. We had the tent down by 7.45 am so didn't get a chance to dry on the spot. I needed a parking spot at the Pav and breakfeast.
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kurt ? he the guy who races a green boat? tattoos ? we were in the corner. 3 tents down from him n his mates if thats the right guy
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Thats Kurt. I take it he was helping you out then? He knows his stuff but we havn't seen to much of him this year. It was nice to see him out.
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we didnt bring our boat. we just came along to see what its all about as our boat isnt water ready yet. and i came home and ripped what i had done apart as it was all wrong !!! just got to do a decent electric box now and redo rods then spray her up.... we had the blue tent in the corner with the purpley coloured shed of a car
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I use an alley sandwich box which Martin put me onto. I am sure Millets sell them. I added some extra foam strip seal on the inside of the lid and box which when the top is fitted it seals up. I had loads of trouble with with the Maplin type boxes leaking. If you go back to aprox Jan time there should be a load of stuff and some pic's i think.
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yea i need to go seek a good box. but how do you seal the wires that are outside the box ? just with the rubber pushrod seals ?
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Hello
Laptop is playing around.
I pass the rods and Throttle boden cable through rubber grommets and cover the rods in grease to seal them. Seem to work just fine. it must be a tight fit.
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yup got all them things sorted in the old box but it was rubbish so scrapped it. got my exhaust fully in the boat just a few mil outside so makin a smaller box to fit to one side of hull now. all good fun i think !!!! keep me informed on aug bank holiday weekend tho think we up for a jolly !! have another m8 who has a makara and he also will be joining omra
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Good stuff.
No replys as yet about Modelmayhem weekend as yet. It take time for all to see the message board.
best of luck with your boat.
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YEP ITS TRUE !!!! KURT CAVE IS BACK !!!!! O0
RACING WITH TEAM TMBC :o
i managed to drag him along after sortin out his old boat thanks to scoop (stewart rae)
kurt will be spending the rest of the season sorting out his new boat ? hope to be attending a few meetings along the way too !
unfortunately my makara took a bad hit at weekend and after a few of us jumping on it too for good measure deamed it fit for a viking funeral ! it now rests in peace at weymouth {-) (honnestly it a was a sad moment when i had to sink it cause the harbour master said it was about time our fun ended ! kurt was hanging on the harbour wall cause he was laughin that much he nearly fell in and phil couldnt hold his camera still either for laughing )
long may my makara rest in peace amen ! pmsl
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can i join in with an apache my makara is dead !
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Hi Mark
Yes it is fair to say that your Makara meet a bitter end. As for joining us! Now let me think. Oh yes. Maybe you should first prove your Makara is resting in Peace by posting the photo's . I saw what that nasty man did to your fine boat. Right down the Middle song comes to mind. {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Ok Big boys with their toys!!!! How many of you DAre to come to hte Mayhem Weekend in Wales and show your toys off
Stavros
Hello All you Mad Makara men.
Not one of my better day's out yesterday. As Simon say's " Thats racing"
Ok as the folks at Kingsbury have let us down for next Sunday. It's a reel pity me thinks. Well Done Phil for all your work on trying to get it all together. Thanks for trying.
Now Windermere is also OFF as well. How do you feel about going to the Mayhem weekend??? I am free and would be happy to Show & run during the Sat Sun 30th 31st Aug. But one boat on it's own is not going to cut it. Seem's we have lots of water to play with if we can get a rescue boat we have got just about all we need for loads of time on the water.
Stavros. Is there camping on Site? can you feel us all in with more detail, how much will it cost etc.
Cheers for now
Bill
Come on! Anyone up for this weekend?
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windermere is cancelled but we are looking at holding a race up here at trafford !!!! on the sunday 21st ! i hav a few things to sort out this week before i can confirm !
well the build of the new apache will comence !!!
ill get piccys of the viking funeral ! ( phil hatcher hasd them at the moment ! )
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well heres a piccy of the poor old thing !
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OH Dear!!! How sad, but you sure did make sure that the boat would never turn up on ebay. He he he {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Ok Big boys with their toys!!!! How many of you DAre to come to hte Mayhem Weekend in Wales and show your toys off
Stavros
Hello All you Mad Makara men.
Not one of my better day's out yesterday. As Simon say's " Thats racing"
Ok as the folks at Kingsbury have let us down for next Sunday. It's a reel pity me thinks. Well Done Phil for all your work on trying to get it all together. Thanks for trying.
Now Windermere is also OFF as well. How do you feel about going to the Mayhem weekend??? I am free and would be happy to Show & run during the Sat Sun 30th 31st Aug. But one boat on it's own is not going to cut it. Seem's we have lots of water to play with if we can get a rescue boat we have got just about all we need for loads of time on the water.
Stavros. Is there camping on Site? can you feel us all in with more detail, how much will it cost etc.
Cheers for now
Bill
Come on! Anyone up for this weekend?
Hi Bill
Just waiting on a reply from a few bods as to whether I am free that weekend. If so I will be up for it.
Phil
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WINDERMERE IS OFF BUT TRAFFORD IS HOLDING A ROUND ON THE SUNDAY !!!! 21st sept
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I take it all the Mad Makara men are on there Jollys. Bring me a stick of rock back. Ta
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seems very quiet ??? willing to run a makara race up here at trafford !!! if you guys intrested ! as long as omra round 12 on the 21st sept goes ok !
mark
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I am glad to report that I went along to Llanberis for the weekend. See there report site. There was 2 Makaras there, mine and a new member from Wales called Gary.
The good folks & boaters was surprised at how fast they go.
We are now planing to return next Aug 09.
How about some more Mad Makara Men joining in the fun?????????
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You kept that one a bit quiet Bill?
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Hi Bill i saw the pics looked like a good weekend pitty i couldt get there the boat looked good nice lake too,by the way guys just to let you know ill be producing some glass fibre radio boxes pretty soon to fit 5" rails ,with a perspex lid anyone interested let me know cheers.I can also produce tank trays for your tank to sit in using elastic bands to hold tank in place just epoxy the tray in or silicone.Heres a pic of a radio box its shallow one end deeper at other but i can make them same depth all over too.Heres a pic of a tank tray same as the ones ill be making too,could be made any size.
Mart
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Hi Mart long time no here. I hope all is well with you and yours.
My boat was flying at Llanberis. It is nice to have so much water to open her up on and keep on going. Have done loads of work over the summer. change the engine to a Tuned Zen, fitted 2.4 Ghz radio gear, change the ex pipe to an 26 cc MHZ pipe instead of the MHZ 50cc pipe which i started with. All of which has made the boat run better in its own way. It's a pity we are nearing the end of the race meetings.
Oh well best get off.
Cheers now
Bill
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Hi Bill i saw the pics looked like a good weekend pitty i couldt get there the boat looked good nice lake too,by the way guys just to let you know ill be producing some glass fibre radio boxes pretty soon to fit 5" rails ,with a perspex lid anyone interested let me know cheers.I can also produce tank trays for your tank to sit in using elastic bands to hold tank in place just epoxy the tray in or silicone.Heres a pic of a radio box its shallow one end deeper at other but i can make them same depth all over too.Heres a pic of a tank tray same as the ones ill be making too,could be made any size.
Mart
Hi Mart
When you are ready to produce these to sell on, please put a posting in our 'Traders Section'. Even though you are not a full time trader you will get a better response there. We are tryiing to keep all the stuff people might want to buy in one place. If you like you can think of it as the Mayhem shop window.
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Sounds like you got her sorted mate,ive not had much time for boating lateley but ive got my hydro flying dunno the exact speed but id say 60 if not more when i open her up.handles chop surprisingly well too,ive just started making my own hulls from my own mould i have a cpl selling in sale section.Plug was from the old stepped vee and a redesigned top.Hope to offer a few more designs soon when i get a chance to build the plugs,have some plans from a mate in holland of a cat and also a hydro i plan to build too.
Mart
here she is at half speed in some strong wind
http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/martno1fan/?action=view¤t=ROCKETTINSOMEHEAVYCHOP.flv (http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/martno1fan/?action=view¤t=ROCKETTINSOMEHEAVYCHOP.flv)
short vid at speed before she cut out on me
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Mestz2AtgzE (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Mestz2AtgzE)
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Hi Mart
When you are ready to produce these to sell on, please put a posting in our 'Traders Section'. Even though you are not a full time trader you will get a better response there. We are tryiing to keep all the stuff people might want to buy in one place. If you like you can think of it as the Mayhem shop window.
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OOPS sorry did i break some rules ,ill be sure to do that mate thnx.
Mart
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IS THERE ANYBODY THERE???
Don't mind me Im just dusting down the cobwebs here. ;) ;) ;)
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BOO
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Got to see these mad boats in real life,thought i was fast when raced cars {-)
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Got my copy of OMRA news today, we're second and third page news!!!!
Trust Sally to put a bit about me and the waders in....
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Get on you tube ,Type in "D203 Weymouth" and you will see my Makara having a bump with John Smith boat. O happy days. :-))
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Nowhere to go when that happens Bill - just one of the joys of racing, hard luck ::)
Danny
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Nowhere to go when that happens Bill - just one of the joys of racing, hard luck ::)
Danny
This from an expert. {-)
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yum de dum de dum!!
Still dusting the this bit down.
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They're all too busy repairing worn out boats after Penzance, Bill!
Obviously some good racing.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AwG4mU9z0yY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AwG4mU9z0yY)
Everybody's at the video lark now :-))
Danny
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Looks like fun was had in Cornwall Danny.
It is just a tad to far for me to go in a day.
See you @ the AGM
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Merry Makara Christmas to you all.
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And a Zen-ny new year %)
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Dont drink too much or you will be left feeling SIKK {-)
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Very good Martin.
and after the drink you may have a Gig Hezts :D :D :head
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Very good Martin.
and after the drink you may have a Gig Hezts :D :D :head
Lol yea but just be sure you dont eat or drink too FASST or you could get a gig hertz tummy {-)
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Then your leg may go Sanwa if you have to much turkey :} :} :}
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Im on a diet {-)
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HAPPY CHRISTMAS YOU MAD MAKARA MEN :-))
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BO! is there anybody there??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Are you allowed on here, Bill? Have you still GOT a Makara %)
With all these new "teams" and "secret" boats and "tickled" engines ........
I'm expecting great things off you 'D' blokes this year O0 ;D
Danny
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Hi Danny
Yes still got the same boat as last year. I was going to change it but as it took me all year to getting it to run right I am running it for this year. The truth is I'm not sure how many races I'm going to be able to get to. I'm in Oz from March for a few weeks, so thats the start knack up.
How's your boat doing?
Should be good to see the boys from up north's new engine. I'm hoping to pick up a new Zen in Hong Kong on the way home from OZ.
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Scoop's got the "exclusive" on the re-built boat. It should be in the April Model Boats :o :o :embarrassed:
Are you getting your Zen in HK just so you can take it back for the Guarantee work {-)
Have a good time, and think of us in the Hove blizzards! (like last years Torquay do!!)
Danny (the Bear???)
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Cheers Danny.
Hove in the Snow!! Na I will somewhere between Sydney And Adalaide in 30 deg C heat with any luck.
Been looking around for a few model power boat clubs on my way round with a limited amount of luck. I need to have another look this week at the Web.
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Bill,
Try here.....
http://www.ampba.asn.au/club%20links.htm
Ian
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Is there any New Makara's being built this year. If so go on be a devil post a few pics. I am going to be racing my boat from last yaer, as it took me all year to get it right and i don't see alot of point in sarting agian. Anyway Happy building and racing for 2009.
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Bill,
You missed seeing one this morning. Photography courtesy of Andy........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mdJRjX3xLo
Think this link should go on the "Mad Makara" thread. Might need some work before Hove........
Ian
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Nothing wrong with that Ian %)
Just needs the strut dropping an inch or so {-) {-) {-) {-)
Danny
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dude that one mad makara !!!!!! :o
i hope it will be running a lot better than that if its running at hove , if it runs like that it will be removed <*< <*<
tony
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Well Ian what can I say. B***ER comes to mind. Sorry i was not there this morn to see the fun & games. Didn't get in till 4AM so gave it a miss. Im sure you will get it shorted very soon or eles you may have to join a model flying club.
Have fun.
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i hope it will be running a lot better than that if its running at hove , if it runs like that it will be removed <*< <*<
tony
Hi Tony, There's no way I'll be attempting to race it anywhere until it's a lot more sorted. It's more than scary enough on open water !
Ian
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Nothing wrong with that Ian %)
Just needs the strut dropping an inch or so {-) {-) {-) {-)
Danny
Hi Danny, Submerged drive it is then {-) {-) {-)
Got to shorten the stuffing tube slightly to allow a bit of "negative". Think I will have to take a file to the hull to try and flatten the rockers out as well. I toyed with doing that before I ran it, but decided to try it first.
Ian
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So just a quick question on set up if I may - at what distance from the tip of the vee to the centre line of shaft are the well sorted and nice handling Makaras running? I am the new owner of Simon Beamants Makara and I am just putting it back together at the moment, my hardware is different to what he was running so just want to try to get it somewhere near right form the start.
Cheers.
Glenn
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Glenn
What gear are you trying to put in it??? I am sure Simon will help you out if you ask him. He helped me out loads setting my Makara up last year. I am in OZ at the mo but would be glad to help you when I get back to the UK.
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Cheers Bill,
pretty much standard stuff, Zen powered with a stinger drive ('Cause I had one lying around), speedmaster rudder.
Prestwich pipe. That's about it really.
I'll get it working, was just wondering if anyone knew of any real "don't do it's" with them, or anything else to help speed up the set up.
Cheers again.
Glenn
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.....was just wondering if anyone knew of any real "don't do it's" with them..........
Big don't.... don't start on this until the Whiplash is finished :} :} :}
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Got the two going - the Makara is something to do while the resin is drying on the wood!!
Glenn
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Fitted my RCMK engine into my Makara and had it's 1st run. All went well. I hope to tune it up a tad more next week.
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Have a look at the Flycam video on my Makara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx5-TIl-dRM
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Looks pretty nippy when you open it up Bill :-))
And nobody ran into it %) {-) {-)
Danny
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Hi Danny
I cant understand why when i get on the lake i have it all to myself.
What do think of the Flycam video then Danny? I am happy with it. I wanted one like yours but that came my way when I was in a model shop down under. I couldn't leave it there!!
Heres the link to find there site http://www.flycamone2.com/index.php?id=20&L=3
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I cant understand why when i get on the lake i have it all to myself.
Hmmm....
;)
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I put a Flycam camera on my boat last sunday. I was very happy with the result.
Flycam are being sold at your local model shop and they do have a web site. Anyway have a look and see for yourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx5-TIl-dRM
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Well I have just done my last race for 2009 OMRA sesion at Bristol yesterday.
Sad to say my boat is in need of replacing now. We have had lots of fun together and I know there are many photos of her here and on the OMRA site and of course MODEL BOAT Magazine.
She is going to a good home.
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Have now completed the strip down on the Makara and swoped all the engine , Radio over into my new boat. I have one or two small jobs to complet, then I hope to get her in the water very soon.
My New boat is a Stelth made by John Smith from OMRA & i am hoping she will go as good as Johns boat dose.
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Nice looking boat. Bill. Lovely shade of ... er ... yellow?
It will certainly stand out :-)) :o :o
You might have put some decent lettering on - like BOSE or TANNOY {-) {-)
Cheers
Danny ok2
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Looks like a banana ;)
In all seriousness it looks the dogs dangly bits O0
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Nice one Bill :-))
Like the JBL lettering (bose---pew)
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Were JBL [JB Lansing] speakers used by Fender in their guitar amplifiers from the early 1950's to current date?....Derek
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Were JBL [JB Lansing] speakers used by Fender in their guitar amplifiers from the early 1950's to current date?....Derek
Pass on the above. However I only use JBL speakers on my sound system here at Unicorn Sound. Hence the stickers on my new boat. Years of trying loads of other speakers I found them the best.
As for my boat It is LIME green The flash on my camera has made it yellow. Yes it should stand out on the lake. I wanted a Red one but this and a pale blue colore wah what John had already made at the time. ;)
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Good hulls,my pal runs one.
Have you any info on the new Patriot hulls,size,when available, etc?
http://www.riptidemodelboats.zoomshare.com/6.html
Brod..
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Good hulls,my pal runs one.
Have you any info on the new Patriot hulls,size,when available, etc?
http://www.riptidemodelboats.zoomshare.com/6.html
Brod..
No is the short answer. I saw John at Bristol and he had the hull on show there. As yet I haven't seen it run.
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hi bill
looking good , has it had hit the water yet ?
tony
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hi bill
looking good , has it had hit the water yet ?
tony
Hi Tony
No not yet. Still got Alge probs on our water here at Stevenage. I hope to have all the last min jobs done by next weekend and take it fo a ride up to Willen and see Darren.
Just got a cupple of small bits to do now. :-))
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Thanks to Darren at MK MBC I got my boat in the water today. It ran very well. One or two bits to do but overall it was a successful 1st run.
Willen lake is quite large but with little wind the water was very flat. The next thing is to see how it rides over choppy water.
In General I am a Happy bunny and with just a few things to work on over the next few weeks.
Yep he :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Sorry to busy driving her to get any pics. maybe next time.
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Well done Bill, I'm sure we'll have some choppy water before the season starts :-))
Is it faster than the "Unicorn" or are you running in a new engine?
Cheers
Danny
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Nice one Bill, I look forward to coming and see it in action :-)) :-))
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Well done Bill, I'm sure we'll have some choppy water before the season starts :-))
Is it faster than the "Unicorn" or are you running in a new engine?
Cheers
Danny
Hi Danny.
It is the same engine as the Makara. I'm am not sure how fast it was as Willen is a large lake and difficult to judge. I should have put my GPS unit in it to check it out but I was just happy to get it on the water. Maybe next time I will track her speed. With a few modes it should be good.
See you at the AGM Sunday
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Hi . This mad Makara driving is taking a working hol in Cyprus. Back Sunday.
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Hi . This mad Makara driving is taking a working hol in Cyprus. Back Sunday.
Have a good time - again <:( <:(
The great thing about racing against others is that you COULD only be doing 20 mph, but as long as the rest are only doing 19 mph then all is well :-))
Better than chucking money into finding that elusive 1 mph on a GPS %) %)
Cheers
Danny
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HAPPY NEW YEAR IF THERE IS ANY MAD MAKARA MEN AROUND ANY MORE.
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Thanks to Jassica From Willen MK club for taking a video of My new boat and of coruse her Dad driveing ther D class boat at Willen in Jan this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xVnfAquQI
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hey Bill i just finnished making a mate a nice bubble hatch for his stealth hull ,i have to say they improve the looks no end heres a pic of his old one which was too heavy for his liking and the new lighter one one i made for him.He supplied the orriginal plug and i made a new mould to make the parts for him.
Mart
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Looks good Martin.
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Cheers mate yea they came out pretty nice ,it looks like a different boat with this one.If you want one let me know ok2.
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Hey Mart,those are great lookin' hatches :-))
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Must look a bit like this on the boat.......
(http://s2.postimage.org/BqgDS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsBqgDS)
(http://s1.postimage.org/AbyE0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxAbyE0)
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I'm liking the
keyboard boat stand ;)
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I'm liking the keyboard boat stand ;)
Used for tuning
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Must look a bit like this on the boat.......
Ah, ah, what's this Ian - a very tasty new boat?? Tell all O0
Cheers
Danny
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Don't think it's his Danny, he doesn't play the piano as far as I know {-)
I've got a rather tasty new boat, but I ain't telling you about it ;D
I've succesfully relocated the engine Ian...
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Heres THAT boat minus hatch on its first outing. :-))
Heavy hatch now at the bottom of Fleetwood lake <:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUaVfaBKYs
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Looks very good. It rides very high at the front unlike mine. Do you have any pics of the set up ? ie gear ,engine ect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xVnfAquQI
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Ah, ah, what's this Ian - a very tasty new boat?? Tell all O0
Cheers
Danny
Hi Danny,
I wish she were mine, but alas, I lifted the piccies from "Number 37"s website I'm afraid.
Currently trying to patch the old ones up with chewing gum and sticky backed plastic (again) :} :}
How's your new AA boat coming along ?
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Looks very good. It rides very high at the front unlike mine. Do you have any pics of the set up ? ie gear ,engine ect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xVnfAquQI
Hi Bill,
I think it's probably got a lot to do with the twin inline modded Zen's.
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Looks very good. It rides very high at the front unlike mine. Do you have any pics of the set up ? ie gear ,engine ect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xVnfAquQI
Alro tuned inline motor,HORV2 pipes,speedmaster stinger,3014/2 prop(will try a 8015/3 this weekend) big 1500cc fueltank up front.
The boat IS heavy but matters little with the power of this motor. :-))
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Hey Mart,those are great lookin' hatches :-))
Yea nice and light too,i think 4 would be lighter than the other one its moulded from ok2.
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Must look a bit like this on the boat.......
(http://s2.postimage.org/BqgDS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsBqgDS)
(http://s1.postimage.org/AbyE0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxAbyE0)
YES they look almost identical to that as thats now Brods boat,he also has the original plug that hatch was made from.He contacted me to build him a lighter hatch as that ones VERY heavy.I used the plug to first make a mould then the new hatches,nothing sneaky going on ok2.
Mart
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O0 i am a makra man my self i own popeye chicken and biscuits would like to join you and would be very interested if people get a reply from paul fermin i want to get hold of him about an inclompleat model i bought from him cost me 500 pound been waiting two years for him to send me the vents to the cat that i got from him to compleat it if any one hears from him please message me back he wont like a face to face meet
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O0 i am a makra man my self i own popeye chicken and biscuits would like to join you and would be very interested if people get a reply from paul fermin i want to get hold of him about an inclompleat model i bought from him cost me 500 pound been waiting two years for him to send me the vents to the cat that i got from him to compleat it if any one hears from him please message me back he wont like a face to face meet
Ha good luck with mr Firmin,just a heads up his son apperently now runs the buisness but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting for a reply nor for any missing parts.A friend of mine had to threaten legal action before he got any response a few years back.
Mart
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tryed that my bank cant find him nor can the courts find him i have a good friend that give me some in but to no avale my dads been to the shop in plymouth to and his house .
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Very shoddy way to run a buisness i think its disgusting.I hope you get whats rightfully yours and hope he gets whats coming to him mate.If i were you i would pay him a visit i really would,its amazing how people become more willing to listen when your face to face with them O0 good luck.
Mart
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thanks mate got a number off johnathan but hes still not called me back nor does he answer his phone as usual brake his neck when i catch up with him hes quick enough to take money from people for good then he dont send them
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few pics of my makara.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/Makara001-2.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/UpdateMakara006.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/005.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q02B-TGlqQ
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thanks mate got a number off johnathan but hes still not called me back nor does he answer his phone as usual brake his neck when i catch up with him hes quick enough to take money from people for good then he dont send them
I dont blame you mate absolute discrace.
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few pics of my makara.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/Makara001-2.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/UpdateMakara006.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l57/MOTARD_01/005.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q02B-TGlqQ
Very good. It sure dose motor along.
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Thanks Bill ive just converted it back to a single with a modded motor
as the back engine piston give up lol. that said that engine has done alot
in several boats.
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(http://s2.postimage.org/1ve95zkbo/P280710_14_38.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ve95zkbo/)
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(http://s2.postimage.org/1vefs4yas/P130610_20_21_02.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1vefs4yas/)
mr fermans in compleat kit still waiting for him to compleat so much for nimrif models
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cant you just make what you need or get someone to make the bits for you.
Then atleast youl still have a nice complete boat to show him ,just before you break his neck :o
Is it something special you need ?
as for pewople having new hatches made to replace sunken ones, why not get them
made hollow and filled with foam so they will float !!!!!!
surely it would make sense to have floating hatches for all boats realy, i know the cost might be a bit more, but well
worth it, especially if you have a real fancy paintjob on it .
phill
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Most of us just glue on some floatation (bit of foam works for me) but some guys forget which is where guys like me usually come in O0.
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but 500 pound for hull he takes 150 deposite wait 6months for hull to arive when it does its in compleat hes informed right away three years still gone past still waiting and getting run round even from jonathan so much for nimrif models and custermer services all ready told jonathan what his old mans got coming to him
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the hull was bought for the engines i have i was told by mr vermin it would take twin zens in each sponson so i bought a set of four ganged to gether from the states cost me a lot of money they dont fit one sponsons wider then the other bloody expensive electric
(http://s3.postimage.org/2wdrpafgk/P300610_23_04_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2wdrpafgk/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/11849gwhw/P300610_23_04.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/11849gwhw/)
(http://s2.postimage.org/2hdqs5wh0/P130610_20_20.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2hdqs5wh0/)
(http://s4.postimage.org/gubz8cx0/P130610_20_20_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gubz8cx0/)
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hi mart theres a roof scoop missing and two side air pods missing if you have ever seen spiret of norway [stev curtis british world champions ] it should look very sim to that it wont even take zen in centre cant get lid on to high tryed diferant engines two mate they dont fit can only get 90s size engine in and only just get top on so have had to opt for mds 25 in it .Still alot of money for hull and its not what i was told it was at begining mate .and hes nos this the ....... ring his neck when i see him
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sounds like youve been done up like a kipper.
you should have stuck to your big spirit of the solent cat !!!!!!
phill
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should have mate but trust me i will have him when he fell in at bristol docks it was nothing compaired to what i shall do to him . mind i am not the only person hes has ripped off
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hey just read the thread not been on for a while but i believe paul firmin was retiring to france ! not sure how true of if he (thats what he told me thou at the time !) has but dealt with him last year and got my parts for my mathe last year !
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Sounds like par for the course from what i have seen with a friends cat m8 .You wouldnt believe the pile of crap he got for £400 it had holes 1/4-1/2" in diam and open seams in what should have been a fully finished seamless hull.My friend did post pics on another forum of it before he finally got to send it back for a refund.I heard hes retired also and his son now runs a shop but the boat building has stopped.
Mart
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ok mate np i dont have to look over my shoulder for rest of my life revenge will be thie
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How do people get away with this type of thing.
I think the best thing to do is to forget about nimrif models and make the bits you need.
get the boat on the water and enjoy it.
shove a couple of very fast electrics in it and see whats the fastest you can get from it.
no good sitting their not fully built getting knocked about when its cost so much money.
or take it to every boating event you can and show people what a lovely boat he sold you. ?
you could have a nice big sign standing next to it to promote nimrif models <*<
phill
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If you let me know what it is you need i can see what i can come up with m8,might take me a while as i am busy with the new hulls but ill see what can be done.Any pics of the scoop and air pods you need sizes etc?.Or you could try MHZ they seem to sell all kinds of scoops etc.
Mart
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thanks mart have you looked at the mhz site mate if you have a look to get what i am after to compleate my hull is two side vents they are on the site in white
(http://s4.postimage.org/18ca3ne04/1275438914782_702477219.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
(http://s4.postimage.org/18cf29fhg/1275439139231466759640.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
3inchs lon 3inchs high [ two side vents white ]
roof scoop 4 @ quator [ width ] @ 18 inchs long mate
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2inchs wide mart [ white vents ]
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Ive seen these somewhere else.
does it have to be these exact things ? is it going to be built exact to scale. i.e have the right decals etc
or could the scoops and vent be a bit different ?
I cant see these being to hard to either make from something else or make by vacum moulding ?????
Bit of hardish foam or carve a bit of wood then make a vacum and make them from plastic etc.
just a thought.
phill
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hi phill as long as side vents are as high as mesurements mate i would say no mate shouldnt mater
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Sounds interesting Phill,you going to show us your vacum forming skills ? .I can get hold of plastic card in large sheets i might need to think about having a go some time.Ive seen a few home made boxes to do small parts this way and it seems to work quiet well just using a vacum cleaner lol.You can even make small electric hulls this way too and they come out really nice.
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would be nice to have some one in model mayhem that could make them .instead of having to go to germany or the states could do with them to finish my model pluss would be after them for the new cat i am in proseds of starting 8foot long 3 foot wide only frame started at mo got to build the plug first [ i am ropeing in gwa 84 on this one hehehe] %%
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3 ft wide :o lol,i will have a go at some ducts as soon as i get chance but im too busy right now.Have to say i like the idea of the plastic vacum formed ones,quick and easy to do once you have the plugs.
Mart
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OK mart np :}
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5CGfoxnKaQ :-))
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vac forming can make some very nice bits for the boats.
drivers, scoops, vents, and some very nice lexan windscreens.
for people with scale stuff, a simple vac former could save a fortune, and be easy to experiment.
martno1 could vac formed plastics be used as mold for fibreglass ? or would that be a no no
phill :-)
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I think it would be a no no because of the heat given off during the curing process everything could get very wavey :o,mind you looking at some boats they might have used that very process {-).
I think for making small parts like you suggested a vac former would be a good idea,might have to build one for making small parts or get my lad to make me one :}.
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for any one looking for mr fermin
he is still in uk i have address and phone number for all them people hes ripped off pm me if you want details
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for any one looking for mr fermin
he is still in uk i have address and phone number for all them people hes ripped off pm me if you want details
Bet your pm box is full {-)
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yep it is mate after all the running round and being told hes in france hes under our noses
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yep it is mate after all the running round and being told hes in france hes under our noses
Check ebay out cos someones also making Makaras again,wouldnt surprise me if its him under yet another name,ive lost count how many names hes used for buisnesses {-).
Mart
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it is him on eBay selling the Makaras >>:-(
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yep it is
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I thought as much,you should all get together and pop down :o
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what good idea no the adress [me i mean]
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Home of the original MAKARA
Nimrif RC Models
2E Moorland Road
Plympton, Plymouth
PL7 2BH
01752 511999
Shop Opening Hours
Tuesday – Friday 10.00am – 5.30pm........Saturday -10.00am – 3.00pm
email [email protected]
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Wasn't aware that the Makara was still being made, haven't seen one in years - this thread itself having been dormant for 10 years...