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Title: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 31, 2008, 10:42:52 pm

Please feel free to share your Questions and comments on Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat   build in this thread.

(  Build thread here:     Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8904.20#top)  )

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Roger in France on February 26, 2008, 06:32:00 am

Great job, the planking looks super. Is this to be a sailing model or a display only?

Roger in France.

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 26, 2008, 07:47:52 pm

Quote from: Roger in France on February 26, 2008, 06:32:00 am

Great job, the planking looks super. Is this to be a sailing model or a display only?

Roger in France.

This is to be a display model only, but with working features such as slow rotation prop, lights etc

Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Colin Bishop on February 26, 2008, 10:08:01 pm

Some lovely construction work there, a real delight to the eye!

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: boatmadman on February 26, 2008, 10:16:41 pm

Nice work. What timber are you using? And what glue do you favour?

Ian

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 26, 2008, 10:32:54 pm

Quote from: boatmadman on February 26, 2008, 10:16:41 pm

Nice work. What timber are you using? And what glue do you favour?

Ian

The outer planking is lime (was mahogany on the real boat) and I use ordinary exterior pva, I buy it by the gallon (5Lts) from the builders merchants as it's cheaper.

Quote from: Colin Bishop on February 26, 2008, 10:08:01 pm

Some lovely construction work there, a real delight to the eye!

Thanks Colin.


   Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on February 27, 2008, 08:33:08 am

If I'd known it was that easy to plank like that I'd have tried it myself. Yeah right.

Beautiful work Mike, shame to paint it.  O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: John W E on February 27, 2008, 10:51:29 am

Hi there Mike

It is lovely to watch a professional build - I am one of those who is not too keen on 'modern' vessels tugs and modern lifeboats have never 'been my thing' but this age of lifeboat and especially the way you have built it with half frames, and assimilated calico between the planks - has the old grey matter thinking.     One of the lifeboats (if I was to pick one that I like) or which one I would build either The Liverpool type lifeboat drawn up by Vic Smeed; or the Barnett Stromness type lifeboat drawn up by Vic Smeed again.....

mmmmm food for thought for the next build eh.

KEEP UP YOUR BRILLIANT WORK.

One question, did you coat the cotton with diluted PVA glue?   Also, had you thought of using tissue instead of cotton? because, I am considering using this technique on my build but fear that the cotton would be too thick?

aye
john e
bluebird

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: tigertiger on February 27, 2008, 01:24:50 pm

Lovely job ;D,

Inspiring me to pull my finger out. ::) stop ditherring and getting some modeling done.

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: MCAT on February 27, 2008, 01:44:40 pm

gribeauval  ONCE again I am enthralled by looking at one of your builds 


 

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 27, 2008, 02:04:03 pm

Quote from: DickyD on February 27, 2008, 08:33:08 am

If I'd known it was that easy to plank like that I'd have tried it myself. Yeah right.

Beautiful work Mike, shame to paint it.  O0

Yes it only took four weeks to do both layers of planking  :o ;)

You can still see the ghosts of the diagonals even after painting as you will see when I post more pictures!

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 27, 2008, 02:13:05 pm

Quote from: Bluebird on February 27, 2008, 10:51:29 am

Hi there Mike

It is lovely to watch a professional build - I am one of those who is not too keen on 'modern' vessels tugs and modern lifeboats have never 'been my thing' but this age of lifeboat and especially the way you have built it with half frames, and assimilated calico between the planks - has the old grey matter thinking.     One of the lifeboats (if I was to pick one that I like) or which one I would build either The Liverpool type lifeboat drawn up by Vic Smeed; or the Barnett Stromness type lifeboat drawn up by Vic Smeed again.....

mmmmm food for thought for the next build eh.

KEEP UP YOUR BRILLIANT WORK.

One question, did you coat the cotton with diluted PVA glue?   Also, had you thought of using tissue instead of cotton? because, I am considering using this technique on my build but fear that the cotton would be too thick?

aye
john e
bluebird

Thanks for the compliment John but I am just an amateur builder who enjoys a challenge. I very rarely keep boats I build for long as I enjoy the building and am not really interested in sailing very much, once I know it does what it is supposed to do then I loose interest in it. The exception to this rule will be the Monster Mersey! ;)

Yes the cotton cloth is glued in place by coating with diluted pva. re the thickness, in 1/12th scale this thin cotton sheet is ideal, but if you need to go thinner take a look in your local fabric shop, they have cottons in all thicknesses from see-through to denim weight.

Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on February 29, 2008, 08:13:45 am

Beautifully done Mike.  O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: John W E on February 29, 2008, 08:49:24 am

Hi ya there Mike,

Looking really smart; one question Sir, when you built the deck shelter - did you leave the Florist's foam in place, or have you removed that now; just leaving the veneer?

aye
john e
bluebird

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 29, 2008, 02:30:16 pm

Quote from: Bluebird on February 29, 2008, 08:49:24 am

Hi ya there Mike,

Looking really smart; one question Sir, when you built the deck shelter - did you leave the Florist's foam in place, or have you removed that now; just leaving the veneer?

aye
john e
bluebird

Yes John there is just a shell left as you will see later in the picture uploads to come ( nearly up to date with the posting of the build  ;) )

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: John W E on February 29, 2008, 05:26:43 pm

hi ya Mike, thanks for the info - looking forward to seeing your pics.

One other question, why did you put a paper mache' layer over the top of the florist's foam?  Was it some form of barrier to stop the veneers sticking to the foam?  or, are there other reasons....sorry for the nitty gritty questions, but, watching builds like your build; and, also watching people building kits on this forum - it's one of the best ways I have found - of increasing your own building skills  O0  My motto is - it doesnt matter if its scratch or kit built - one can always learn from it - and sometimes the way one does something is inspiration  :)

AYE
john e
bluebird

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 29, 2008, 07:01:19 pm

Quote from: Bluebird on February 29, 2008, 05:26:43 pm

hi ya Mike, thanks for the info - looking forward to seeing your pics.

One other question, why did you put a paper mache' layer over the top of the florist's foam?  Was it some form of barrier to stop the veneers sticking to the foam?  or, are there other reasons....sorry for the nitty gritty questions, but, watching builds like your build; and, also watching people building kits on this forum - it's one of the best ways I have found - of increasing your own building skills  O0  My motto is - it doesnt matter if its scratch or kit built - one can always learn from it - and sometimes the way one does something is inspiration  :)

AYE
john e
bluebird

Two reasons for the papier mache layer;

1) Stops the veneer sticking to the foam, easier to remove foam without damaging planking.

2) Gives a nice smooth, easily sealed surface on the inside which takes less fiddly sanding down to take the grey paint.  ;) 

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: banjo on February 29, 2008, 08:42:53 pm

MAGNIFICENT

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on February 29, 2008, 08:46:28 pm

Amazing.  O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on February 29, 2008, 10:51:43 pm

Thanks gents.

However I have just realised that I have called this rig by the wrong name!  :embarrassed:

I said that it was a GAFF rig but in fact it's a LUG rig !   Sorry for any confusion. :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:


Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: colin-stevens on March 02, 2008, 06:25:08 pm

as always, WOW. Really beautiful
Colin

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on March 09, 2008, 10:45:42 pm

At last, a posting about model boats. Your usual neat work Mike. Wish I could think lateraly like you, if I see a curtain ring I see a curtain ring not a life ring. :-\

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: funtimefrankie on March 10, 2008, 10:12:54 pm

You'll have to watch that the motors don't affect the compass ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on March 10, 2008, 10:41:14 pm

Quote from: funtimefrankie on March 10, 2008, 10:12:54 pm

You'll have to watch that the motors don't affect the compass ;D ;D ;D

In this case it doesn't matter, the boat is display only!  8) 8)

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on March 14, 2008, 07:21:35 pm

Spot on Mike. O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: colin-stevens on March 14, 2008, 07:49:06 pm

hate to be a critic, but i agree with lance. Sorry but that wheel does not look right.
AS for the rest of her, WOW, again........

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on March 14, 2008, 08:07:41 pm

Quote from: colin-stevens on March 14, 2008, 07:49:06 pm

hate to be a critic, but i agree with lance. Sorry but that wheel does not look right.
AS for the rest of her, WOW, again........

Yes I know, I didn't like it either so I changed it! ;)

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: colin-stevens on March 14, 2008, 08:09:30 pm

Good, from what i can see looks so much better. Thanks for a wonderfull model
colin

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: kit1947 on March 18, 2008, 05:33:17 pm

Looking really great Mike.

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: John W E on March 18, 2008, 08:50:06 pm

Craftsmanship at its best - beautiful model.

john e

bluebird

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on March 18, 2008, 09:12:51 pm

Terrific modelling as usual. O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on March 21, 2008, 05:21:03 pm

Beautiful.   O0

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: tigertiger on March 22, 2008, 02:21:34 am

Fantastic

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Colin Bishop on March 22, 2008, 11:07:40 am

Couldn't agree more with the last two comments. Will you be exhibiting it this year?

Colin

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on March 22, 2008, 03:38:03 pm

Quote from: Colin Bishop on March 22, 2008, 11:07:40 am

Couldn't agree more with the last two comments. Will you be exhibiting it this year?

Colin

Thank you for your kind words gents! :embarrassed:

No Colin, I never exhibit my models as I have no real interest in that side of the hobby except as a great admirer other peoples skjills and builds!!
I only enjoy building and solving the problems created by my choosing odd scales or obscure boats.  8). I am not even very interested in sailing my models either as once I know that they do what I wanted them to do then I lose interest an look for new challenges.
Also the model doesn't belong to me, it has been build for the gentleman who bought the old Whitehills Lifeboat station and is converting it to be his new home.

Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: DickyD on March 23, 2008, 11:31:09 am

Thats what I meant before Mike, you see grab rails, I see tooth brushes.  :-\
They look really good.

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: gribeauval on March 26, 2008, 01:54:24 am

Video of the whole build here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyudDA0fE5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyudDA0fE5Q)

Mike

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Roger in France on March 26, 2008, 07:09:10 am

Well done, Mike.

Really enjoying the build and now a video. Wow!

As was said by another, your eye for seeing a part for your builds in everyday things demonstrates a brain that moves on different lines than mine.

Roger in France.

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: nhp651 on March 26, 2008, 08:47:26 am

watching and listening to that this morning Mike got me into the mood for an early start in the workshop.
 :DSod the shopping trip to Asda! O0 ;D

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 28, 2008, 12:18:27 am

Please feel free to share your Questions and comments on Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat   build in this thread.

(  Build thread here:     Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8904.20#top)  )

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: parky on February 27, 2009, 09:15:31 am

Quote from: Martin   -   Forum Admin on January 31, 2008, 10:42:52 pm

Please feel free to share your Questions and comments on Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat   build in this thread.

(  Build thread here:     Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8904.20#top)  )
                              you made a wonderful job well done  parky

Title: Re: Q & A - Gribeauval's Whitehills Lifeboat
Post by: OMK on February 27, 2009, 09:27:14 am

The way that video was put together was very clever. Even better was the choice of background music.
Excellent stuff!