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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Faraday's Cage on March 20, 2008, 08:30:21 am
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BBC have signed a 5 year deal for F1 on BBC tv and radio from 2009.
Fingers crossed there will be some HD content.
Wonder if Murray will be back ? :o :o :o
FC
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I heard the news on the radio this morning. No more irritating commercial breaks, just a continous broadcast. Let's hope the BBC offer a contract to Martin Brundle.
Don't forget that Murray Walker retired in 2001 at the age of 77 so he's now 84! He decided to retire because he wanted to quit while he was ahead so I think it's unlikely that he will return. However, never say never!
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I loved the BBC F1 coverage but ITV have moved it on by huge amounts in their tenureship!
Look forward to the old theme tune “The Chain” by Fleetwood Mac.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7306123.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7306123.stm)
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I can't be bothered with F1 racing but as I was listening to the news there
they were saying that Bernie Eccleston went and approached the BBC
to see if they wanted it back. Is that not unfair trading, if it is I don't
think ITV will be letting it go quite so easily might end up in a court room
Just a thought
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F1 racing used to be good but reminds me of scaletrix without the slots in the road, same thing as they go round and round. A1 racing is much more exciting, they look like they are racing not just hanging on for the ride.
Brian
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It will still be a procession roundy round.....just as boring no matter what station its on................saloon car racing thats the way to go..........proper racing as it should be..........but even that is falling victim to." he who cheats most.....or spends most.......wins " :'(
regards...........bob.
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I have been a motor race fan for years, I worked as a fire marshall at Silverstone for 10 years. In those days F1 was not won and lost in the pits, the drivers raced none stop for the 200 miles and it was great. I am not a great supporter of F1 now although I do still watch it, but very often only the highlights. I may go to Brands Hatch this Sunday, there is a class called Ledgens racing , saw them last year at Brands and have seen some of the scotish championship on Motors TV, it's GREAT.
Alan
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I'm thinking that f1 lost it's way years ago. ITV have made an excellent silk purse....from it though.
I dont really care who is showing it provided it never goes subscription only.
If you want real excitement try MOTO GP the opener from Qatar under floodlights the other weekend was awesome.
I must admit to having a bias towards endurance racing and will be lucky(???) enough to be on the SLN racing team for the BRITCAR 24hr this coming September at Silverstone.
I've only made the LeMans pilgrimage once but I have the permission of SWMBO to take my lad when he's old enough - it'll probably be all electric or hydrogen by then though !!
Good luck with the F1 Aunty Beeb dont dont go backwards and ruin ITV's efforts.
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The removal of much of the electronic aids might sort out the scalextric jockeys from the drivers.
Just hoping that the BBC does come back with the "proper" theme tune.
Umpteen years back, when I used to go to Oulton Park regularly, there was a series called the "Redex Trophy". It was a modified saloon category - I have no idea what the restrictions were, but you had wondrous things like the 4.7 litre v8 Mk I Cortina and a Ford Pop with a highly unlikely number of carbs poking out. Always spectacular racing.
It is a pity that the big time racing does seem to be a borderline cheating exercise, with the team having the least scrupulous lawyer likely to come out on top, but this seems to be true of any competitive activity when lots of money is involved.
The Moto GP and Superbikes on Sky have superb commentary teams - I will always treasure the memory of Randy Mamola scampering about the track after one practice session collecting bits of blown-up Honda engine after a practice session, and doing it on air, cheered on and directed by the guys in the box.
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Ok who has stayed up to watch it on http://www.itv-f1.com/VideoLive.aspx
fredy
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malcolmfrary
I remember those modified saloons very well, Mick Hill with the Janglia (Ford Anglia with 3.8 Jaguar lump) he then built the Capri with 4.7 V8 and finally a VW Beetle with Formula 5000 running gear (ex Mike Wilds who went on to drive the BRM in G.P.'s). Then there was Tony Hazelwood with the Rover V8 engined Daf, this car caught fire during practice one Sunday morning and I as crewing the firetender and got the blaze out, his crew cleaned the car up, it was raced in the afternoon and sold the same day so that he could get his next car out for the next meeting, this was an XJ12 Jaguar with an 8 litre Can Am engine. The late great Gerry Marshall in all the different Vauxhalls (Old Nail (Magnum), Big Bertha (Ventora) and Baby Bertha (Magnum).
Oh how I miss those days.
Alan
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Hi Alan,
I also enjoyed days out at hill climbs at Harewood as well. There was a natural grandstand and you could get near enough to feel the draft as they accelerated away from the bend after the farmyard. Again, strange and unlikely combinations of car and motor. The mini-buick springs to mind.
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speaking as a huge F1 fan i think this year will sort out the boys from the men. no traction control is a big leveller. count yourselves lucky because you only get it here in NZ through subscription tv. roll on 8 oclock tomorrow night. (our time anyway). pity they dont show the european races earlier though. they dont start until midnight here and its hard getting up for work after a couple of hours sleep.
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F1 has turned into a boring procession, regardless of the leccy bits being not allowed, it is still follow the leader,
We have a new category of racing here in Australia, they are called Ozzie Race Cars, they are very small and
light cars with only four shapes at the moment, powered by a Yamaha 1200 cc motor, they are the most
entertaining cars I have ever seen racing, at some circuits five wide into a corner and all got around, the also use
the slipstream to great effect...............
Roy
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We have a formula of saloon racing on the same basis called Legends, I believe they run on motorcycle engines and they are racing at Brands Hatch this weekend, I was going to attend but the snow was falling this morning so I and SWMBO bottled out and stayed at home in the warm.
Alan
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Always watched the F1 faithfully until ITV took over - the adverts really bugged me, broke the thread of the excitement - I'll be back though next season Yippee..
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wouldnt it be great if the bbc brought in murray walker for an occasional stint behind the microphone. i always liked the old guy inspite of his 'murrayisms'. google that and a site comes up with some of murrays misquotes. they are quite funny.
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BBC, great, no adverts, great, MURRAY, Oh No!! Please not MURRAY.
Alan
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Presumably ITV only let it go as it's so boring it's not pulling in enough punters for the advertisers. Moto GP is of course more exciting, but then good shed time on Sunday afternoons is even better! Why watch someone else doing something, when you can do something yourself?
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I agree with most comments here, both pro and con, but one huge advantage ITV has over the BBC is that the adverts provide a very useful pee break...
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Itv had it taken off them , Mr Eccleston decided that the champions league would clash and wanted all races to go out live. there is also talk that Mr Coulthard will be commentating ( enough to put you off watching)
Fredy
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/161060-0/ecclestone_pulled_plug_on_itv.html
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/161114-0/coulthard_being_lined_up_for_bbc_role.html
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i would sooner see him racing but it would be good to have a 'recently retired' driver doing the commentaries though. someone with all the inside news and paddock contacts, could be helpful. mr walker and mr coulthard would be my choice for a team although thats obviously not going to happen.
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opps. forgot to ask. if the races were broadcastlive would that alter the times they start now. over here the race starts midnight sunday so i guess allowing for daylight saving would be 1pm your time
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All the european races start at 1pm GMT. Other vary due to time differences.
I see that Richard Hammond's name is mentioned in several articles. Seems he's being tipped as the front man to the BBC's coverage.
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richard hammond would be a good choice too. who do you think would be a suitable partner for him though.
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I think the Beeb will be able to choose who they like. Hamster would be a great frontman (even though he'd get some extra stick on Top Gear from F1-hating Clarkson), but they'd also be able to poach Martin Brundle, surely. Suzi Perry would be great in the paddock (those with dirty minds can make up their own meaning for that! ;)) and DC would have all those contacts. I'd like to see Murray back now and then for a special or two, like the British GP.
And no ruddy adverts!
Andy
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All the european races start at 1pm GMT
Just correcting my mistake. :-X
The european races usually at 1pm BST
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How can the fastest car fastest driver start at the front be fare.I dont think they would do that in horse racing {-) {-)
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good point that. tends to lead to a predictable finish. the only real chance of leads changing (excluding crashes etc.) at most circuits are during pitstops. reverse grid. now that would add excitement and probably carnage. theres something about F1 though that keeps me watching and has done for years. every now and again there is a brilliant race and i would hate to miss it.
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But how to get any honesty into a reverse grid? Practice timings are an indicator, but if the slowest was put at the front, everybody would be practice timing as slow as possible. Possibly points for practice positions plus a two part race with points for each and a reverse grid for part two.
There are still cars and drivers that show well in practice, but cant compete over the full race, but even so.....Hopefully the reduction in electronic driving will turn it back into racing.
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I think that in club racing if there is a handicap race then your lap times during the race may not exceed a certain percentage of your best practice time and this could possible be put into force for GP's with the reverse grid.
What do you think?
Alan
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How to get honesty into a reverse grid? Decide whether it's normal or reversed by the flip of a coin - after qualifying has fnished. I suppose everyone might try to get into a mid-grip position, but that's what most of the teams end up with anyway.
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What about reverse grid from the previous race results?
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Would wider longer straights less sharp curves but certainly more places to overtake add to the excitement ;)
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Why not go the Liberal route as they have in schools for sports days , where no one looses and give them all a cup at the start,
maybe when MAX the lash Mosley goes we will get back to real racing with big tyres and Ferrari having the same rules as the rest,
Fredy
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any news on mosley yet. last i heard was he was to be summoned to a meeting for a vote of does he go or does he stay.
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From The Times
April 18, 2008
Bernie Ecclestone wants Max Mosley to accept defeat
Kevin Eason, The Insider
The public stance has been one of constant support in the face of blistering worldwide condemnation, but behind the closed doors of his offices in London's fashionable district of Kensington, Bernie Ecclestone is turning up the pressure to resign on Max Mosley, his old friend and the president of the FIA, Formula One's governing body.
Ecclestone, who could claim to be the creator of the modern Formula One, is increasingly alarmed at the reaction to tabloid tales of Mosley's alleged Nazi orgy with five prostitutes. The Mosley affair even cast a shadow over the funeral on Wednesday of Richard Lloyd, the motor racing entrepreneur who died in a plane crash last month. Some of the most famous names in motor racing - including Damon Hill and John Watson, the former drivers - were in the church in Brackley, Northamptonshire, and then met in the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC) at Silverstone, where there was one hot topic of conversation.
Overwhelming opinion at the BRDC was that Mosley must stop fighting his corner and go with some dignity. One close friend of Ecclestone said last night: “President Mosley is in danger of becoming motor racing's President Mugabe.”
The drip, drip of unrest from within the boardrooms of some of Formula One's big sponsors is also having an effect. Ecclestone did not become a billionaire building Formula One into box-office business without being astute and his soundings tell him that the time has come for Mosley to accept defeat.
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lets hope he listens and goes with whatever dignity he has left
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We'll put everything here this year. :-)
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I'll not be watching F1 any longer, I'll be glued instead to the drag racing (gonna treat myself to Sky TV) That and the tractor pulling...far more exciting than watching boy's toys poodling around the track.
Spedeworth used to operate a reverse grid system, I remember watching the likes of Foxy Dance in the stock cars, George Polley and Barry Lee in hot rods having to fight through the whole grid from the back, now that made for loads of overtaking. Foxy Dance would overtake where others wouldn't dare to overtake...brilliant stuff.
Rich