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Title: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 11, 2008, 09:34:19 pm
Today I start the George Turner Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat that I have had on the shelf since Christmas.
In the box is the high impact styrene hull and deck, bags of resin parts and the Graupner motor, propshaft coupling and motor mount.
The resin parts are extremely good quality.    
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 11, 2008, 09:42:29 pm
The first thing is to trim the hull, this is done with a pair of scissors.
The next thing is to solder the wires and suppressors to the motor.
Holes drilled for the prop shaft, rudder and water cooling tube.
Assemble the motor, motor mount ,prop shaft, rudder and water inlet and epoxy resin them in place
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 11, 2008, 09:55:04 pm
The next thing is to complete the elctrics.
First the battery box is glued in place.
The small steering servo is fixed to the rear of this and connected to the rudder.
Place the 7.2V battery pack in place and mount ESC over the top of battery.
The mini Rx is mounted to one side at the rear of the motor on a shelf.
The silicone water inlet tube is connected.
Test the electrics. Surprise they work. Remove the battery.
Next job is to glue on the deck. This is supposed to be difficult but I had no problems. The deck was glued on using plastic weld and bulldog clips.
This is then left overnight to harden off.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 11, 2008, 10:04:52 pm
The next job is to cut the openings in the deck being careful not to lacerate the innards.
A diluted mix of epoxy resin was the run round the inside of the hull at the deck join.
Once this was set the edge of the deck was given a final trim and sand up.
I was told I would need to fill the joint at the torpedo flute but didnt need to.
Then pieces of timber have to be glued under the deck to brace it, this was a bit tricky but it worked.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Martin13 on April 11, 2008, 10:43:15 pm
Well done Richard - Your going to have that in the water in no time - I'm still sanding and itchin O0

Martin doon under
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: madrob on April 11, 2008, 10:49:59 pm
Looking forward to seeing this richard
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: rem2007 on April 11, 2008, 11:34:46 pm
Will have to have a race someday with these Vosper craft mate! You keepin' alright?
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 12, 2008, 09:33:52 pm
First thing today I put it on the water and boy does it sit low at the stern.
So I have moved the ESC to the front by the motor but there is little else I can do as I am using everything as recommended.
Spent the morning washing off and drying all the resin parts and there are a lot of these.
Cut and fitted hatches. Have yet to try and make them water proof.
Finished off the water cooling exit pipe.
Fitted the port holes.
Did notice that I had a bit of water inside the boat after putting her in the water. Bit of a mystery, prop shaft is greased and the rudder tube is greased.
Flipping boat is so small and with so much in it it is a job to see where the problem is. Will have another look later.
I am still waiting for a drawing from George and a couple of parts that were missing so I dont want to go to far yet.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 13, 2008, 10:40:15 am
Looking forward to seeing this richard
You and me both Rob. ;)
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 13, 2008, 10:41:53 am
Will have to have a race someday with these Vosper craft mate! You keepin' alright?
Keeping not to bad Robert. Though wish there was a little bit more room in this model. O0
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: rem2007 on April 14, 2008, 04:30:17 pm
yeah I know what you mean, same thing with mine. It all fits but getting it to fit properly is the thing.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: longshanks on April 14, 2008, 10:05:13 pm
Hi Guys,
Its all worth it...wait till you get it on the water! Best fun since.., well thats another story.

longshanks
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Admhawk on April 15, 2008, 01:31:15 pm
Looking good Richard!! Shouldn't have trouble getting that in your car!!  ;D :D ::)
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 15, 2008, 05:02:26 pm
Looking good Richard!! Shouldn't have trouble getting that in your car!!  ;D :D ::)
Hallo you old mountie you, where you been, off in daddys yacht ?
Dont know about getting it in the car Darren, I can get it in me pocket !  ;)
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 15, 2008, 05:52:33 pm
Well had another good day in the shed.
Now George has sent me the drawing that was missing I have been going great guns.
On with sticking the resin parts in place and doing a bit of painting.
Might have to get in touch with our ACTion man about a new speed controller to replace my slightly too large one, which I will use in the next boat.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: rem2007 on April 15, 2008, 07:51:06 pm
Hmm, getting envious now, may have to take a look at that kit! O0
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 15, 2008, 08:59:22 pm
You better make it quick Robert, George Turner is stopping doing boats and is going over to slot cars. Shame really as this is a nice kit and the resin castings are really very good.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 05:10:02 pm
Down to the detailing now. SWIMBO says I have to wait till her next payday for my new ESC , bummer !! Muttered something about her pay packets not keeping up with my model making..
Anyway finished painting the bulk, if bulk is the right work for something this size, and it is really quite impressive. As I said the resin castings are excellent and very detailed.
Took off the last photos as they were rubbish so heres some more.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Stavros on April 16, 2008, 06:38:46 pm
looking dammed good that man O0


Stavros
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: cdsc123 on April 16, 2008, 07:04:29 pm
Hi Dicky
That looks very nice, a crying shame they are coming off the market. Here is a shot of the real No 57, hardly tell the difference;
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: madrob on April 16, 2008, 07:22:01 pm
my grandad used to serve on these, as a kid i remeber seeing all the model vospers round his house.
going to have to build one one day, maybe something a bit bigger than yours though Richard, dont think the eyes could take anything that small
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 09:29:38 pm
Hi Dicky
That looks very nice, a crying shame they are coming off the market. Here is a shot of the real No 57, hardly tell the difference;
Thanks Christian, could have done with the photo somewhat earlier as the drawings weren't to clear, should have known you would have one.
I suppose you noticed the deliberate mistake, which I might add was not mine, but was shown on the drawing as I did it.Bummer !! >>:-(
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 09:34:12 pm
Thanks for the comments guys.
Would have liked to have done bigger Rob but 1. I dont have much room left and 2. I cant handle all the fumes from the epoxy, glue and paint so good these days.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: andi4x4 on April 16, 2008, 09:35:14 pm
 I hadn't noticed anything - so I scored the photo and your pics and the only thing I came up with is the vents facing the wrong way !

 It wouldn't bother me personally - until someone else mentioned it !  {-)

Quiet night at work - got nothing else to do at the mo !

regards,

Andi
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 09:55:02 pm
I hadn't noticed anything - so I scored the photo and your pics and the only thing I came up with is the vents facing the wrong way !

 It wouldn't bother me personally - until someone else mentioned it !  {-)

Quiet night at work - got nothing else to do at the mo !

regards,

Andi
Got it in one. But you see, now I know its wrong, I'm going to have to fix it.
Well it will give me something to do while the mere mortals are at work. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: longshanks on April 16, 2008, 10:16:15 pm
Ref quote :-

"I hadn't noticed anything - so I scored the photo and your pics and the only thing I came up with is the vents facing the wrong way !"

Are they the wrong way round? I would imagine they are free to rotate, facing the apparent wind would force air into the appartment. It would certainly change the air alot quicker!! Perhaps someone eat something that didnt agree with them...

Looking good

Regards
longshanks
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: cdsc123 on April 16, 2008, 10:17:51 pm
Another photo of some sister-ships, hopefully this will improve your day;
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 10:22:39 pm
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, made my day. Can get a good nights sleep tonight. Would have anyway but you know what I mean.
Now what am I going to do tomorrow, start on the next one ?  :-\
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 16, 2008, 10:30:12 pm
What? You're gonna build two of them????
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 16, 2008, 10:34:38 pm
No Colin
Next one probably Vietnam War period American PGM. Their version of the Motor Gun Boat. O0
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 16, 2008, 10:40:47 pm
This sort of thing?

Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: rem2007 on April 16, 2008, 11:29:08 pm
How soon might that be Richard? ;)
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 17, 2008, 08:12:52 am
No Colin as photo below.
Already started Robert, have installed the running gear. The rest is scratch build, new for me, could take a while.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 17, 2008, 09:22:41 am
Hi Dicky
That looks very nice, a crying shame they are coming off the market. Here is a shot of the real No 57, hardly tell the difference;
Any idea what flag that is Christian, doesn't look like the White Ensign ?  :-\
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: cdsc123 on April 17, 2008, 09:26:56 am
You don't miss much! 91 & 92 were part of the free-French manned (and led) flotilla, pictured here in Brest flying their colours and tooting their horns in victory no doubt. I think the radio men were RN, and thats it.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 17, 2008, 09:55:26 am
Thanks, what about 57 is that the White Ensign or a dodgy photo that makes it look like something else.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: Spyderman_uk on April 17, 2008, 12:23:11 pm
Hope I can maybe help out.
By looking at another boat picture, MTB 73, the flag you are referring to is lower on the mast than where the White Ensign should be. It looks like the white ensign is above but facing away from camera.
The flag in question is more likely to be a marker for S.O. on board. :angel:
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: cdsc123 on April 17, 2008, 01:01:44 pm
If I'm not mistaken the ensign flying from MTB 57's (and MTB 73) mainmast (on the yardarm) is the blue duster, meaning they were on builder's trials.
Signal flags were flown higher up from the crosstrees.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: cdsc123 on April 17, 2008, 01:42:07 pm
Should perhaps have said red duster.
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: John W E on April 17, 2008, 03:01:39 pm
hi there

I always thought when a boat was still in builders' hands they flew the Red Ensign also alongside the builders yard's flag to show that she was on sea trials and had not been accepted yet.  :-\

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat
Post by: DickyD on April 17, 2008, 05:46:01 pm
Well I have gone as far as SWIMBO's bank account will let me on this one. Just need an electronic miracle from our ACTion man to complete the build.( after the next pay cheque I'm told ) and I will be able to try it out.
A few more photos  including one of the next build already started.