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Title: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:19:05 pm
Hi,

I cant help but wonder how many of you lot have built a full size boat of some kind?

I am nearing completion of a sailing dinghy, so here are some pics of the build.

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:24:55 pm
Then some planking started
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:27:10 pm
Planking continued
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:31:54 pm
And then cleaned up, coated with 2 coats epoxy, painted and prepared for the turn over!
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:34:20 pm
Then the internal clean up and making/fitting all the internal stuff....
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:36:14 pm
The inside was then finished with 3 coats of Danish Oil...
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Bradley on May 03, 2008, 09:37:17 pm
Many, many (too many) years ago I built a Mirror dinghy in my garage and it was a cracker.  I built it from a kit supplied by Bell Woodworking Ltd, sponsored (obviously) by Mirror Group Newspapers.  Followed the instructions to the letter and had no problems apart from the sheer strake which split when trying to bend it to the curve - had to 'borrow' a drainpipe off the house to use as a steaming box.  It worked but the pipe was plastic and was never quite the same afterwards.  I can even remember the sail number - 23889 - I wonder where it is now.  :)  Your dinghy build looks great Ian, what class is it?
Derek.  :police:
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:40:38 pm
Then came the rudder,  mast, spars and rigging. No photos of these yet, will get some soon.

The hull is built of Robbins premium mahogany marine ply, keel, stem, transom and rubbing strakes are all Iroko and the internal thwarts, fin box and floor is of Douglas Fir.

The mast and spars are all Spruce.

Sail by Goatcher sails, rigging by me!

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 03, 2008, 09:41:56 pm
Derek,

Its not any particular class, just a traditional style lugsail dinghy designed by Ian Oughtred.

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Bradley on May 03, 2008, 09:52:24 pm
Thanks, Ian.  I know of Ian Oughtred and his designs.  You must be highly chuffed with your 1:1 - it looks lovely.
Derek.  :police:
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: John W E on May 03, 2008, 11:09:24 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: nhp651 on May 04, 2008, 06:41:24 pm
boatmadman. your sailing dinghy is just simply gorgeous.I really do think it is lovely.
A credit to your skills. andmany thanks for showing it to us.
neil.
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: bbdave on May 04, 2008, 08:10:10 pm
very nice wish i could have done mine inside finished her last year she's a souwester 18

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/P1000198.jpg)

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/P1000223.jpg)

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/P1000225.jpg)

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/P1000233.jpg)

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/P1000235.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 04, 2008, 10:05:25 pm
very nice bbdave  O0
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: bbdave on May 04, 2008, 10:26:31 pm
what are the dimensions of your dinghy Ian i think dad and myself got a little carried away with ours  ::) maybe a little to big but she's done now. i best not tell the local ner do wells she has 1/2 ton of lead ballast .
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 05, 2008, 06:18:45 am
bb,

She is a 10 footer - cant remember the beam offhand.

What woods did you use on yours?

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Martin13 on May 05, 2008, 02:11:10 pm
:'( :'( :'(

John,

Are you INSANE! :o :o :o :o

How did you con the missus into letting you build that - Bet you didn't build that in your shed {-) {-)

Do you still have it - and the missus ;) ;)

Martin doon under
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: John W E on May 05, 2008, 02:19:57 pm
hi there Martin

Sadly, I dont have THE BOAT now  :o  - but I still have me Mrs  O0 - different house now - deliberately with a smaller garden for the Mrs  {-) {-) {-)

she was all but finished when I had to get rid of her THE BOAT that is  :)  No pics exist of the boat and I always consider taking pictures of a real vessel under construction at bit of a 'bad luck' thingie because not long after these pics were taken I lost my dad.   My dad is the one standing next to me and I was getting an ear bashing off him for putting one of the chocks in the wrong place on the hull.   Aye, about 8 years ago - the urge to build another boat came again, but, this time I bought an old derelict boat - plywood hull - that was in need of major rebuild - I was half way through the rebuild of that one - and someone told me I had emphysema and 2 knackered discs in me spine - so I wasnt to do anymore heavy lifting of any form.   

So thank goodness - back to doing my models  :) :) :) :) :)

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: bbdave on May 05, 2008, 02:53:11 pm
Ian the gunwales rubbing strakes seating are west african mahogany there are various knees etc which are oak and  iroko i had collected a fair bit of timber off various sites i'd worked on over the years amazing what you can get out of a skip! The mast and spars are douglas fir the jaws are oak the belay pins are asda rolling pins turned down to suit as are the parrel beads. all the running rigging i made splicing etc it's all holding so far, the standing rigging i had crimped up localy but this can be an horrendous price. the sails are made in falmouth by the chap that does the workingboat sails the best gaff maker there is but i've forgotten his name ::). trailer was off ebay. we're outside today rigging her pre season check i may put the sails up if the wind drops i've never seen her with them up from outside the boat i'll pop a pic on if i do.
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Bradley on May 05, 2008, 03:14:32 pm
bbdave - Another lovely 1:1.  I don't know the name of the sailmaker in Falmouth but Heards build the modern working boats (and other gaff rigged boats) and repair the old ones.  My only 1:1 now is a Fishing 16 which I bought second hand and am still in the process of refurbishing.  Just too old to indulge in 1:1 sailing boats any more.   :'(
Derek.   :police:
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: bbdave on May 06, 2008, 06:07:20 pm
I got the sails up yesterday evening first time i've seen her with them up from outside the boat  O0


(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/Boat%20build/P1000511.jpg)


(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/bbdave/Boat%20build/P1000507.jpg)


Hope to see yours soon Ian {-)
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on May 06, 2008, 06:08:41 pm
Very nice, i hope to get her out this week for more work.

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 06, 2008, 06:12:11 pm
These are all very nice but I can't see any radio gear fitted!  ::)
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: BobF on May 06, 2008, 09:53:22 pm
Hi all,
No photo's, but I finished off and fitted out a four berth steel sailing cruiser some years ago. After about four years of not being sailed for one reason or another, I reluctantly sold her. And have since moved to Bridlington.

As it was such a lovely evening, after work today I took a walk down to Brid harbour. To my suprise there she was moored in the harbour.

Bob
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Hagar on August 31, 2008, 12:06:13 pm
Boatmadman: Just one word, wonderfull.
BBdave: trully wonderfull.

No bad intentions to you Boatmadman, but bb's "just floats my boat" as the saying goes.

If if really came down to it it would probably be a boat like yours, I would do though as I just dont have the time money or room for anything as big as Noomis.

Both very good examples of gararge boats, (or back garden in your case bb!).

Any recomendations where you can get plans for a sculler, or a skiff?
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on August 31, 2008, 12:41:40 pm
Try here: http://www.fyneboatkits.co.uk/

or here: http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/boatlists/ionames.htm

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Hagar on August 31, 2008, 03:48:54 pm
Thanks for the links Boatmad.
The one that you show, is that the Grebe/Tammie Norri?

One of the sites had some wicked sea kayaks.... no good when you are an old paddeler that lives by the sea!!!
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on August 31, 2008, 04:44:13 pm
Hagar,

My boat is the puffin, but with a balanced lugsail.

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Hammer Man on November 12, 2008, 10:42:51 pm
Hi Ian,

That boat looks very nice!  Well done! 

I have been offered an old boat to restore and keep for myself, unfortunatley I have no way of transporting her!  The owner has said he will hold onto it for me as its been there for years and years anyway.  I'm amazed that yours is called the Puffin.. The one I've been offered is called puffin and has 'Puffin' written on the sails.

Here's a picture I took of it.

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k219/HammerMan_photo/S1031746.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on November 12, 2008, 11:08:47 pm
Hammer,
Puffin is the name of the design rather than the boat name. It was designed by Ian Oughtred up in Scotland.

Whereabouts is your next project laying?

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Hammer Man on November 12, 2008, 11:15:48 pm
Hammer,
Puffin is the name of the design rather than the boat name. It was designed by Ian Oughtred up in Scotland.

Whereabouts is your next project laying?

Ian

Ahh, I didn't know that.. he thought Puffin was its name.  It is the mans outbuilding in a village near Corby Northamptonshire.  The name of the village is Laxton.  It was his grandfathers and he doesn't know anything about it other than its been sat where it is for many years since his grandfather died.  There are several masts and booms and he doesn't know what goes with what so has told me I can take the lot and figure it out for myself! haha!  I'm out of work at the moment so finances have meant I am unable to arrange anything.  Just waiting on a start date for the new job now though so with a bit of luck it won't be long before I can afford to hire a van big enough to fit the boat in!

James.
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on November 12, 2008, 11:27:28 pm
James,

Depending on how heavily she is built, you may be able to roofrack it?

Have you done anything like this before? If you think I may be able to help in anyway, feel free to ask away, but you have to post pics - its the 'law'  :-))

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: Hammer Man on November 12, 2008, 11:37:51 pm
Ian,

I didn't try lifting it when I went and had a look (so haven't seen the inside even) but he said it was very heavy and would require a van or trailer so I took his word for it.  Perhaps I should go back up and see how heavy it is..

I've never done anything like this before, no.  Once bought a rowing boat that just needed a lick of paint but thats all it needed.  Sold that to get some cash when I lost my job but through word of mouth people have heard that I am fascinated with boats and thats how I ended up with a model yacht that I don't know what I'm doing with and an offer of the Puffin you see in my Picture!  I even have a pair of wooden oars in my outbuilding which were given to me from a friends father 'incase I ever need them'! 

I will certainly take you up on your offer of help and will bombard you with questions once I've collected the boat!!  And don't worry, I already intended on taking pictures as I go along so I will post them on the forum for you!  Not sure how long it will be though, perhaps a month or more depending on when I start my new job and get some cash flowing!

James.
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: dreadnought72 on November 13, 2008, 09:09:14 am
My boat is the puffin, but with a balanced lugsail.

Crikey - how come I've not seen this thread before?

Boat sail numbers. I don't know why it is, but you never forget. My Dad's Mirror was 48903. He bought it from Bell's in the "unpainted" state. I sailed that almost 35 years ago. (Gawd!)

Eventually I bought an Enterprise, 18570, after racing two at school (1428 and 2793). 1428 went like stink. 2793 was a dog. I have no idea why. But what I want (really, really want) is the Oughtred Caledonia Yawl (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/details.asp?Name=Caledonia+Yawl), also listed on the classic marine website.

If work do the right thing and give me a pile of cash to go in the next few months, I may just have to buy the kit.  %%

By the way, the Puffin and Sou'wester 18 in this thread are beautiful - full credit to you both. And if you ever need a crew...

Andy #1963#

Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: boatmadman on November 13, 2008, 02:58:19 pm
Andy,

Build from plans, much more satisfying :-)) also more frustrating :}

That yawl is a beaut, on my shortlist for the next one, but it has strong competition: http://www.campionboats.co.uk/html/design___one_or_two________apple.html

Ian
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: andrewh on November 13, 2008, 04:10:25 pm
Andy,

Have you considered killing two stones with one bird and adding a yawl rig to your dreadnought?  There would be room for 4 with picnic gear if you can enter via the barbette 'oles

I was given a couple of gallons of time-expired aircraft epoxy so obviously
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd159/andrewh_photo/Lemon8/DSC00958.jpg)
This is Lemon8, and she has a small sister
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd159/andrewh_photo/Lemon8/dinghy1.jpg)
who is exactly 1/4 scale, and was supposed to be finished first to prove the rig, etc
I'll let you guess which sailed first

I'm in the early stages of doing the brain part of a Thames barge - 8 foot long - 'cos thats how long the ply is, but my 13 year old son is growing too fast to be easliy inserted!  He is at the inch-a-month stage now and presumably heading for thinner air :}
andrew
Title: Re: 1:1 full size build
Post by: dreadnought72 on November 13, 2008, 04:58:36 pm
Hi Ian - the Apple's very nice, especially the balanced lug version. And I like transoms - but I think it's a wee bit short for me.

You see, I'd thought about a Wayfarer now my boys are at an age where they need to learn how to hand, reef and steer, and after years in boats of ~14' I think it's time to stretch my legs a bit more. There's also stuff online about some serious sailing/cruising in the CY, which is well worth checking out.

need - this is non-negotiable!  :-))

Andy, there'll be no yawl rig for the Dreadnought, unless it's on the boats, but my next model will have a square sail. I'm saying no more.

8' foot barge? Now you're talking! Slightly larger mini-barge races (with a single sailor) could be a laugh. What's the likely spec on displacement, beam, etc., and I'm presuming you'd have to go for a fin-and-bulb?

Oooo. Ideas!  %%

Andy #1963#