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Title: Real world MPG
Post by: boatmadman on May 30, 2008, 06:15:47 pm
Lets see what we REALLY get from our cars - not the official figures, the real ones!

To start off:

Audi A4 Avant TDI - average 45.5 mpg over about 3000 miles . Probably 60/40 motorway/urban

Audi A2 1.4 petrol - approx 43mpg over mixed driving, probably biased towards urban.

Ian
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Post by: barryfoote on May 30, 2008, 09:42:00 pm
Volkswagen Golf 2.0 ltr TDI.....48 to 55 MPG.....Country and motorways mainly...
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Post by: Eddy Matthews on May 30, 2008, 09:50:58 pm
Volvo S80 five cylinder 2.4 diesel - Average of 48.8 mpg over the last 2000 miles, mixed driving, motorways and urban.

Absolutely amazing for a BIG car!

Eddy
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Post by: justboatonic on May 30, 2008, 09:54:16 pm
320d Sport. 160 mile a day commute. all but about 20 mile on motorways & dual carriage way. Board computer show 62mpg with average speed shown on board computer of 58mph. On the motorway I drive at 75mph except where there are traffic holdups.
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Post by: Casper on May 30, 2008, 10:04:37 pm
2006 - VW Passat 2.0TDI DSG (Auto) estate - mainly lives on the motorway really - 41 to 44 but gets hammered, getting better with age though was down to 38 when new :(, 85k now.

2007 - Seat Ibiza 1.9tdi Sport, mainly urban use, 52 - 55. On a run 'trying' to be good :angel: 61 - 64 - 15k on the clock O0

1992 - Mazda MX5 1.8 - 35 - 38 but gets hammered....

M
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Post by: ministeve on May 30, 2008, 10:20:29 pm
last time i filled up to full  :'( £60+ i got 550 miles to empty (I'm young with lead foot) think that works out at 41 to the gallon mostly town maybe a run up to Blane moor lake
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Post by: J.beazley on May 30, 2008, 10:29:18 pm
2004 Volvo S40 1.8sport.    Around town mostly with the odd motorway trip, 46.5 mpg.
Not sure if thats a good thing or not.

before that had a Suzuki Vitara with a few engine mods, be lucky to get 25-30 mpg in that but it was good fun in the summer.

Jay
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Post by: Shipmate60 on May 30, 2008, 11:29:56 pm
Vauxhall Vectra V6 2.5 SRI Estate.
87k on clock so just run in.
On a run 33 mpg (I checked the mpg to and from Wicksteed)
Around town about 23.

Bob
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Post by: nhp651 on May 30, 2008, 11:38:06 pm
Nissan Note 1.4 petrol.
great little car for humping both family and model boats around in, with Japanese quality........42 mpg around town /motorway/ up hill and down dale.........never changes from that figure. just superb.
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Post by: catengineman on May 31, 2008, 12:36:11 am
Honda CRV (yes a 4X4  :) )

Checked regularly 38 to 40 just me in,
32 'average' with Spanner and girly stuff
25 to 30 towing :'(

R,
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Post by: Marks Model Bits on May 31, 2008, 12:43:36 am
Chevy G20 dayvan.............20 if I am lucky and don't use the accelerator.....................10 if I boot it.

Mark
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Post by: wombat on May 31, 2008, 09:23:27 am
VW Touran 1.9D - averaging 52MPG - mixed urban and rural, up to 60MPG on motorways

Only p****r is that just put £60 of chip-oil in it and barely got the froth off it when I was told that the replacement may be delivered 3 weeks early!

Still should be even more economical - 150g/km plays 165g/
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Post by: das boot on May 31, 2008, 09:53:03 am
Rover 214SE...a fiver's worth of unleaded lasts me all week, 14 miles a day to work and back.
My old street rod...11mpg if I was lucky, 4/5mpg when posing.
The sweeper...2mpg when in sweep mode, around 5-6mpg on a run to the tip.[glad I don't pay the fuel bills on the old boy...]
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Post by: norry on May 31, 2008, 10:50:51 am
Ford Galaxy 1.9tdi Automatic...
40mpg around town/...50+ on Motorway runs...

Thats with up to 7 peopleor loads & loads of boats...

...Norry..
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Post by: madrob on May 31, 2008, 10:58:11 am
69 Vw beetle 1600 with twin webber 36idf around 25 which is more than it ever did with the single standard carb  O0
escort diesel daily hack parts chaser........around 35

the worse i ever had was a 69 camaro which had a 8.6 twin turbo, supercharged v8 in it 4 if you drive like yer nan, about a gallon to the mile if u didnt............ahhhh fun times
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Post by: sheerline on May 31, 2008, 11:54:05 am
The old Sheerline is clocking 23.1 mpg! This is truly excellent for this old 4 litre 2 ton pre-historic beast. I filled the tank to the brim and took her out on a trip.. mixed driving.. and filled her up to the brim on return. Having
'zero'ed' the clock before I set off, I noted exactly how many litres it took to fill up again and worked out the consumption. This is the only truly accurate way to clock your usage. I am satisfied now that I have the engine set up reasonably well as these old machines can be greedy cows. Fortunately, it only comes out on sunny days so as we have'nt had too many of those lately it hasn't cost me a fortune and no-one can complain that I'm polluting the planet!
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Post by: Arrow5 on May 31, 2008, 12:25:18 pm
Ford "Transit" diesel...like Rolls Royce, if you have to ask about the price, you can afford to run it ! Norry you have PM.
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Post by: Arrow5 on May 31, 2008, 05:48:09 pm
...I meant CANT afford to run it :embarrassed:. There ends any similarity to the Rolls-Royce. >:(
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Post by: djrobbo on May 31, 2008, 06:07:01 pm


    2005 fiat doblo 1.9 jtd........mini mpv......mixed driving round town and motorway driving 55 mpg

    1942 dodge wc54 ambulance.........4.2 ltr straight six side valve.......carb like an upturned bucket.........mpg :'(.........dont ask

       regards....bob
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Post by: toesupwa on May 31, 2008, 10:52:39 pm
You have to think US 'Gallons' for this...

Ford F150 truck... about 12 miles to the gallon (thats if you are lucky).. and it takes $80+ dollars to fill it up.
Ford Focus Station Wagon (Estate).. about 25 to the gallon... and takes just over $30 to fill it up.

Does that make you guys feel any better?.
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Post by: DavieTait on May 31, 2008, 11:04:38 pm
1999 V reg Peugeot 206 1.9 Diesel ( the old non-turbo engine ) with 93,500 miles on the clock

Motorway sticking to close to 70mph I still get 48-52 mpg
Town 35-38mpg
Normal 60mph runs 45mpg
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Post by: StarLocAdhesives/FiveStar on June 01, 2008, 01:13:24 am
Vauxhall Calibra 4x4 Turbo , average on last 10k , works out at 12 mpg

running flat out full boost, flicks between 6 to 8 mpg on the computer
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Post by: Stavros on June 01, 2008, 09:05:10 pm
Omega 2.5td 170000 on the clock 42mpg up hill down dale only drops to 38 towing the caravan


Stavros
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Post by: Robert Davies on June 01, 2008, 10:22:12 pm
Omega 2.5td 170000 on the clock.....

170000? Sounds sweet as a 'choose your own adjective here' - impressed!

Oh! Me?

Volvo S60 D5se 185ps Euro IV - Good news? Low road tax (£165) - Bad news? Unimpressive 'real world' economy - 33mpg typical - 50mpg on a run.

Or is it just me that gets 33mpg?  :angel: Big fun getting it that low..... I think our Mr Brunstrom prevents it getting any lower ;)

-Rob
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Post by: Damien on June 02, 2008, 07:53:06 am
My 1.6litre 1970 Renault Hill climb car with supercharger and a 350 Holley bolted to it gave 1km per litre dyno showed 160hp at wheels.
More a fuel GULPER than a guzzler and that was with Avgas aviation petrol at 50 cents/litre higher than premium fuel.
This was my 1:1 car 7yrs ground up build. I can't access photo bucket at the moment so i'll post pick later.
Damien.
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Post by: Ghost in the shell on June 02, 2008, 11:09:48 am
vauxhall astra - about 15 to 20mpg
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Post by: geoff p on June 04, 2008, 11:47:22 pm
I get between 80 and 90 mpg.  Phew!
But.....
My vehicle is a Yamaha Jog 90 scooter.

I drive to and from work, and do as much again running around town, all on a princely 3 litres per week.  Costs me about one pound fifty.
And when it rains, I put on oilskins.

Geoff
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Post by: Damien on June 05, 2008, 01:34:36 am
As i said earlier i'd post pic's of my thirsy beast here they are.
(http://www.geocities.com/blownrenault/fg4.JPG)

(http://www.geocities.com/blownrenault/fg2.JPG)

(http://www.geocities.com/blownrenault/fg1.JPG)
Sold in '04 to provide funds for a return to modelling.
Damien.
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Post by: sheerline on June 30, 2008, 04:04:51 pm
Ok folks, this is the latest mpg figure for my old 14 year old 2litr petrol VW passat estate.
I drove from Norwich to North Weald for the Wings n Wheels show over the weekend, went down during the day, lots of traffic about but none of it racing around so was able to travel around 60mph top speed. I went very gently on the acceleration and anticipated the roundabouts so I didn't waste energy through heavy braking so all in all a light footed trip.
Travelling down, the old girl returned 47.9 mpg.
Travelling back up in the evening with minimal traffic ... a staggering 51.5 mpg!!! O0
These were all cold start tests and are average figures indicated by my built in fuel consumption computer.
"Ah", I hear you say, "your fuel computer must be on the Fritz!" Well, it has been consitently reliable since I bought the car and I have checked the calibration  by filling the tank and checking quantities used against milage and it is accurate.
The 'waste of good oxygen' which run our country tell me my old car is polluting the planet and I should pay extra road tax...! >>:-(
Do I want a Diesel?....... Nope, don't think I'll bother!
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Post by: taxi on June 30, 2008, 04:27:06 pm
Just for comparison my diesel passat returned 58.2 mpg on a 220 mile  run yesterday.   Stuck in traffic and some really high speed stuff when conditions allowed.      Urban nonsense is as low as 38 but 42 / 44 is more normal.
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Post by: Alastair_I on June 30, 2008, 05:17:34 pm
The 'waste of good oxygen' which run our country tell me my old car is polluting the planet and I should pay extra road tax...! >>:-(

Not old enough, mate.. 1972 Triumph TR6 2.5 litre straight-six PI.. 20-something to-the-gallon (low-20s with a heavy foot, higher-20s with a lighter touch on the pedal).. did someone mention road tax?  O0

Al
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Post by: Pirate on July 01, 2008, 07:48:12 am
125k miles 1.8 slxi skoda octavia estate, everyday travel, including pulling a trailer for work ......... 40.2 mpg .......... on a long run  she runs at ........... 47 mpg ..... with a light trailer !!!! I know we won the war BUT what fantastic engineering them germans produce .........
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Post by: Casper on July 01, 2008, 08:50:50 am
I did have a VW Bora 1.9 TDI (110bhp) and I really tried to get the best figures out of it possible, its going back a few years, but from Ebbw Vale to Ellesmere Port (for the model show) it did 83.7mpg O0 the fuel gauge did not budge all the way there.

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Post by: sheerline on July 01, 2008, 09:26:51 am
Casper, thats really impressive, the VWs seem to be very good in this area, however, we have also have a VW 1.8 ltr petrol Golf and the fuel economy is total rubbish! It is way down there on fuel economy, the brakes are lousy (admitted by VW mechanics) and the electrics are 'es aitch iy tee ee'!! We are sending it to the razor blade factory today and will never own another one. We have just replaced it with a secondhand low mileage Honda Civic 1.6 petrol so when I get some figures on that one I will let you know.
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Post by: FishdockBob on July 14, 2008, 11:08:11 pm
Citreon Berlingo Van. Hull, East Yorkshire to Tenby, Pembrokshire 49ish a gallon mostly motorway, fully loaded with camping gear.
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Post by: dreadnought72 on July 15, 2008, 09:30:59 am
...the brakes are lousy...
I had a turbo-diesel Golf - and in my first 200 metres, not exceeding 30, I nearly overshot a "give way" line and slid into heavy traffic. The brakes were utterly appalling. I had to rely more on willpower than the disks to stop that pile of junk. It was the sort of car where you'd have to work out where you thought you might need to stop before you even put the keys in the ignition. I was tempted to follow the Flintstones and cut a hole in the floor in order to give me extra help with braking.

These days I have a Nissan Almera, whose brakes are awesome - I'm glad I wear glasses, else me eyes would pop out.

Andy - and it does 38-45 mpg.
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Post by: sheerline on July 15, 2008, 10:14:37 am
Andy, I don't have any fuel figures on the Civic yet but we,re in the process of clocking it right now. I note your remarks on the braking capabilities.. or rather the lack of them on your Golf and wonder how VW managed to get it so wrong in this area. I am also surprised they managed to get it through any kind of safety test or approval certificate. Something else we noticed with this orrible little motor was the poor aerodynamic design which led to a exceedingly low frequency oscillation of the air within the vehicle when the sun roof was open at 30 mph. It really pulsted in the cabin so badly it became unbearable. Nobody will convince me that VW were not aware of this when they initially tested this car so I must conclude they didn't give a damn when they churned them out. 0 out of ten VW!
Anyway, the brakes on the Civic  are 'scary good' and stand it on its nose, it's a wonder the airbags don't pop and the sunroof can appear to remain open at any speed with no ill effects .... can't fault this car so far.
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Post by: sheerline on August 05, 2008, 11:20:51 pm
I have given the Honda 1.6 petrol Civic some fuel consumption tests, running around generally, normal traffic and  plenty of cold starts : 38.5 miles per gallon.
Run down to Falmouth from Norwich, usual heavy traffic round M25: 45.5mpg. Tried to keep around the 70 mark and didn't boot it.
The figures on the way back got screwed as I gave it a caning when we missed a turning and wound up miles off the beaten track (needed wipers on the inside of the screen at that point) and also  by a massive tailback on the M4.
My impression is that it's ok and I'm reasonably happy but it still doesn't beat my Passat for fuel economy! 
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Post by: Ghost in the shell on August 05, 2008, 11:57:56 pm
Nissan Serena 2.0 td 40 mpg
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Post by: swordfish fairey on August 06, 2008, 10:06:39 am
My Citroen C1 manages 65-70 on a long run and around 55 in town. We also have a Citroen Xantia 2 ltr diesel estate for pulling the caravan, and get around 50 MPG. Both the MPG's have been established by the fill - run - fill method.  O0 O0.............Smudge
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Post by: madrob on August 06, 2008, 12:05:50 pm
Ahhhhh i rememeber the brakes on a mk1 golf or lack of
mind you i had the 1500 diesel so it didnt need brakes.........sooooo s l o w

Next project is a Bond equipe gt4
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Post by: sheerline on August 06, 2008, 12:38:57 pm
Gawd Madrob! If it's the same car I think it is, the expression 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' springs to mind, I do believe they went quite well though. Haven't seen one for years.
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Post by: madrob on August 06, 2008, 02:47:34 pm
Oh yes shes deffo not a looker
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Post by: sheerline on August 06, 2008, 03:32:26 pm
Yup, thats the one I was thinking of, what engine's she got, is it a runner, can you get bits etc etc etc?
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Post by: madrob on August 06, 2008, 05:52:16 pm
its basicly a herald/spitfire with a fiberglass body herald doors, parts are easy to come across, the parts that are hard to get are the original seats and the rear glass, got those.
Yip it runs, this ones been cut about a bit to fit a 1500 spitfire engine and a dolomite auto box.
just ordered new front cailpers and disks, new cylnders, flexis £122 for the lot.compare that with the last one i bought for my astra £90.
Cant wait to take her for a run
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Post by: Jonty on August 07, 2008, 09:35:27 pm
  Back in 1970 I used to reckon my Camaro Z28 did 30 miles to the pound when I was booting it. Esso Golden was 33p a gallon, so that was 10mpg. Mind you, 0 -100 in 16 secs was pretty quick in those days. It managed 20mpg on a trip to St Tropez, but since it wouldn't do more than 4000 rpm on the dreadful French petrol, that doesn't really count.

  That consumption was modest compared with the Group 2 Galaxie I had. 7 litres and about 450 bhp. Step on the loud pedal at 100 mph and it felt as if your neck had broken. 165 mph throught the underpass at Tolworth one night bouncing around over all three lanes, and that on trade plates. Happy days.

  Cowboy? Who?
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Post by: Ghost in the shell on August 07, 2008, 11:26:37 pm
well with my astra that I had struggling to get above 16 mpg, (sat at 55 mph as well) I'm glad to see the back of it! My nissan serena has used £20 of diesel fuel since monday afternoon, and I just filled her up tonight.