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Mess Deck: General Section => Full Scale Ships => Topic started by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 09:07:40 pm

Title: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 09:07:40 pm
I've done a search, and cn't find these posted anywhere, so........................Click on he thumbs below, to see some fantastic photos actually taken during the day of the attack. Apparently shot with a Brownie camera.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture10.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture10.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture11.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture11.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture12.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture12.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture13.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture13.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture14.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture14.jpg)
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 09:08:23 pm
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture15.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture15.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture2.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture2.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture3.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture3.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture4.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture4.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture5.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture5.jpg)
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 09:09:14 pm
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture6.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture6.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture7.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture7.jpg)
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(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture9.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture9.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/th_Picture1.jpg) (http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Buellcyclone/Picture1.jpg)
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Colin Bishop on June 26, 2008, 09:41:20 pm
I've seen a few of those previously, the USS Shaw magazine explosion has been widely published, but many of the others are new to me. Where did you find them?
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 09:44:41 pm
A mate sent me a PowerPoint with them on, and I thought that they were historically speaking, fantastic to look at.  ;)
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Martin (Admin) on June 26, 2008, 10:02:08 pm
What were some of the statistics of the raid?
Ships sunk or damaged beyond repair?
Number of attacking aircraft?
Lives lost, both sides?
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 26, 2008, 10:29:06 pm
What were some of the statistics of the raid?
Ships sunk or damaged beyond repair?
Number of attacking aircraft?
Lives lost, both sides?

Casualties
USA : 218 KIA, 364 WIA.
USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.
USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.
Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.
TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.

Battleships
USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine.
USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and sunk in the harbor.
USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.
USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired.
USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.
USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage.
USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.
USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk.
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Cruisers
USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage..
USS San Francisco (CA38) - Light Damage.
USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.
USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.
USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.
USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage..
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Destroyers
USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Cassin - (DD-37 2) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.
USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.
USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage.
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Minelayer
USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
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Seaplane Tender
USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.
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Repair Ship
USS Vestal (AR-4) - Sever ely damaged but later repaired.
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Harbor Tug
USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.
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Aircraft
188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S. Army Air Corps.)
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: RantandRave on June 27, 2008, 07:26:42 am

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/pearlharbor.asp

"Origins:   These images appear to be genuine photographs of the Japanese attack on American military forces at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on 7 December 1941, but not — as claimed in the accompanying text — all of them pictures taken by a sailor with a Brownie camera that remained undiscovered in a footlocker for many decades.

For a "sailor" to have snapped pictures from all the perspectives shown above, he would had to have been in the harbor aboard his ship, on the ground at Hickam army airfield, and aloft in an airplane — all while the attack was in progress. Moreover, the ship on which this wide-rangng sailor supposedly served, the first USS Quapaw, wasn't even built until well after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Most (if not all) of these images are readily identifiable as archival photos that have been available since the early 1940s and have appeared in countless articles and books about the Pearl Harbor attack. "
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Didge on June 27, 2008, 03:17:39 pm

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/pearlharbor.asp

"Origins:   These images appear to be genuine photographs of the Japanese attack on American military forces at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on 7 December 1941, but not — as claimed in the accompanying text — all of them pictures taken by a sailor with a Brownie camera that remained undiscovered in a footlocker for many decades.

For a "sailor" to have snapped pictures from all the perspectives shown above, he would had to have been in the harbor aboard his ship, on the ground at Hickam army airfield, and aloft in an airplane — all while the attack was in progress. Moreover, the ship on which this wide-rangng sailor supposedly served, the first USS Quapaw, wasn't even built until well after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Most (if not all) of these images are readily identifiable as archival photos that have been available since the early 1940s and have appeared in countless articles and books about the Pearl Harbor attack. "

You know, I had my suspicions about some of that, so I left a lot of the bumpf concerning said sailor that came with it off. I should have 'snopesd' it before hand.
Still, very interesting and historical photos anyway, and I've not seen any of them before as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Martin (Admin) on June 27, 2008, 03:36:46 pm
Yes, great.... and terrible photo, both at the same time!  :o
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: Arrow5 on June 27, 2008, 09:57:17 pm
Any statstics on Japanese losses ?
Title: Re: Pearl Harbour 1941............
Post by: DickyD on June 27, 2008, 10:30:49 pm
Japanese losses.

4 midget submarines sunk,
1 midget submarine run aground,
29 aircraft destroyed,
55 airmen, 9 submariners killed and 1 captured