Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: funtimefrankie on July 14, 2008, 08:50:44 pm
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A quiz for boaters O0 {-) {-)
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Lets call it Dennis !! 8) 8) 8)
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Enormous?!
Bradders went to Goodwood Festival of Speed at the weekend - saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAq_GNjPxRU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAq_GNjPxRU) - look how slow he's flying it! :o
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Hope to see that up close and personnal on Saturday at Farnborough.
Brian
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If its the one I think it is it flew over us at the Cheshire steam fair, whilst flying over Manchester and then Liverpool Airport on Saturday.
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Airbus A380 :)
you could have removed the title and signage
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heres the next. yes its a CG, but of what?
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China Clipper (Martin M/130 Flying Boat) O0
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Easy one this, but what a brilliant picture.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/bobinnit/military-aircraft.jpg)
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Harrier, and yes a superb picture.
Bob
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Easy pic, but what mark?
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Mark XIX???
Peter.
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At least there's aboat in the picture! Seafire Mk 17?
Rick
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Correct Rick
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Try this one
Brian
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O0
Brabazon
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:)
Spotted this one on the ground in Poland!!!!
(Its not a Phantom!!!)
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Enormous?!
- look how slow he's flying it! :o
And quiet... made a couple of microlights seem noisey... (well they are!)
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Bristol Brabazon- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miRV-SgYx7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miRV-SgYx7Q)
Notice how the engines are mounted in the wing! :o
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MIG 23 - where do I collect my prize?
FLJ
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Does this count ? ::) ::) (I know - there is a clue in the title !)
Mike
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Antony Gormley's retirement fund?!?!
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Got it in one Martin O0 O0
Mike
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Name this plane and location....
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Sopworth Camel, Science Museum?
Brian
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Its an Avro 504, probably K but the split cowl means that it might have got a rotary in there!, in which case I couldn't guess the type letter, and it might be a field fit
Don't know where, but there seems to be a speedboat below - which I also don't recognise
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Correct! - Avro 504K Science Museum, London
Avro 504K biplane D7560 with 130hp Clerget engine no. 52090;
The Avro 504 first appeared in 1913 and was in service with the Royal Flying Corps during WWI.
As early as November 1914, three 504s carried out a 'mass' bombing raid on German airship construction
sheds at Friedrichshafen. In 1915 the Avro was adapted for training duties and remained in this role until
the late 1920s.
This particular one which can be found on display in Making the Mordern World in the Science Museum
was made in 1917 inventory number 1920-52. [source sciencemuseum]
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And before we move on......
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How about this one?
"Fill 'er up - four-star!"
Rick
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Engine is a Napier Lion, which puts the boat in the 20s or 30s
Depending on fuel about 450 HP (80 octane stuff) to 1000 HP (potent brew) Schneider Trophy S6
For some reason "Miss England" leaps to mind
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Correct, "Miss England".
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This must have been a strange thing to fly especially with "Boats"?
Don't suffer from sea sickness or is it air sickness ?
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff272/Turrets1/IMG_8073.jpg)
Bowwave
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In the background, a Fieseler, Storch maybe?
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Can't remember the name/type, but isn't it a Kriegsmarine autogyro, towed behind WW2 U-Boats for target spotting?
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The gryocopter is a Flettner - can't remember its detail.
Used as over-the-horizon spotting for u-Boats - Sorry Gottfried, we had to dive, but thanks for the warning!
The plane filling up is interesting - it has a Siskin look, but is a 2 seater.
Its an Armstrong Whitworth plane, with one off their engines, and its carrying out tests on HP leading edge slats (the big hinge fairings under the top wing LE)
It looks also as if the fin has been made much higher - again because of the low speed regime its flying in
'part from that you have me stumped
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Yes - it's an Armstrong Whitworth. Want a clue? Maps connect both its purpose and name.
Rick
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Correct! - Avro 504K Science Museum, London
As early as November 1914, three 504s carried out a 'mass' bombing raid on German airship construction
sheds at Friedrichshafen.
Sorry Martin, the Sopwith Tabloid made an earlier bombing raid in WW1 :P
"On 22 September 1914, Tabloids mounted the first raid by British aircraft on German soil. In their most famous mission, two RNAS Tabloids flying from Antwerp on 8 October 1914, raided the German Zeppelin sheds at Cologne and Düsseldorf. The Cologne target was not located, the railway station being bombed instead, but the shed at Düsseldorf was struck by two 20 lb bombs dropped from 600 ft and the Zeppelin Z.IX was destroyed."
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That is a Fieseler Storch, but the Gyrocopter is a Focke-Achgelis FA330 Bachstelz (Wagtail) Rotor-Kite.Focke-Wulf built about 300 of them in about 1940. Took about 18 minutes to get into the air, but a heck of a lot longer to get back down to the U-Boat, hence not a success. Just a guess,is it an Armstrong-Whitworth Atlas ? O0......Smudge.
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Yes, Smudge, it's an AW Atlas.
Introduced in 1927, it was the first purpose-built army cooperation aircraft. The hook for ground-to-air message retrieval is just visible below the fuselage roundel.
Rick
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I confess I cheated and looked up the plane Reg no and turned that up - but didn't want to pretend to know.
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OK, easy one.....
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Ford Tri-Motor?
Bob
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Nope.... so it must be..... :)
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JU 57 ?
Bowwave
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Close.....
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Close.....
JU 56.99 then????
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Junkers 52
Bob
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Correct - JU 52 - Tante Ju - "Auntie Ju" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52)
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No plane pics someone else will have to go next.
Bob
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ok what about this one
john
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SR 71 Blackbird.
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no
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Mig 31 Firefox
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on the ball your turn
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China Clipper (Martin M/130 Flying Boat) O0
in relation to the plane (cg) i posted on pg1, yeesh this thread has moved fast! it was a Boeing 314 clipper
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background info.
THIS IS NOT A GO AT THE GAME, JUST INFORMATION.
as COS918 stated, firefox is correct, though not the designation "mig 31", that goes to the Foxhound, the bigger brother of Foxbat, Andrewh, what ya got?
image pictured is the REAL Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-31
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OK, a harder one this time.....
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MIG 21 Fishbed
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Correct!!!
I thought that was quite hard, well done.
Anyone else got one? If not, I've got loads..... O0
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O.K guys, try this one.........Smudge :D
Plane registration removed ! ;)
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Not a speed camera in sight and yes they do land and take off on an A5 look alike ? but what is it?
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff272/Turrets1/MiG_-29__road.jpg)
Bowwave
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Mig 29 UB two seat version of the Russian fighter........ O0 O0......Smudge
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I think it's Russian, is it built by Antonov?
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Sukhio 30something ? The cops dont have radar guns for landing speeds :'(
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Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29N O0
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N for Navalized i think
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O.K guys, try this one.........Smudge :D
Is it American or Russian?
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i think smudge's plane is a Noorduyn Norseman
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if its the one i think it is Martin, its Canadian
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Swordfish Fairey is right It is a Mig 29 . O0
Bowwave
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The red star on the tail fin should be the clue to its nationality - Russian.
Peter.
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Smudge's plane has still not been identified yet and somehow my post has wound up underneath the Russian fighter.
C'mon Smudge, giz a clue!
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Alright then you load of smarty pants, what about this then?
And to make it extra hard, I've removed the reg O0
Photo taken at Oshkosh airshow 2004
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Dscn0490.jpg)
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Jim Bede`s latest ?
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nope :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNmXQGWEllI&feature=related
Can anyone tell me what this plane is then? more akin to model boating I think O0
aye
John e
bluebird
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Aye, John - that's a big fat fake done with some video editing software. Next?
Andy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNmXQGWEllI&feature=related
Can anyone tell me what this plane is then? more akin to model boating I think O0
aye
John e
bluebird
its an F-15 Eagle super imposed over maybe a tomahawk or trident missile test, My guess is F15+Tomahawk.
look at the tail, you will notice a toothed leading edge, close to the fusellage, where it looks like someone has snapped a small section of the inboard horizontal tail moving.
identifying features:
prominant air intakes eitherside of the cockpit,
Twin tail format
please see picture enclosed.
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answer to andyh
Prescott Pusher :)
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what is this, and who owns it?
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So, you want a clue eh?? O.K. first off, its not Canadian, secondly its not a Norseman. the main clue is that there were only 22 built and they were used in Alaska in the 30s. I have to admit it is a very rare bird........ :D :D.....Smudge
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11668.0;attach=51786;image)
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Sorry Martin,I missed your question, it is American.........Smudge
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what is this, and who owns it?
Thats an Ilyushlin, 76?? Owned by Aeroflot.
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Maybye I was too easy with the Prescott Pusher, so how about this, again with reg removed.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Dscn0037.jpg)
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Before we get too confused, (.... quite easy on this forum ;) )
Lets guess what Smudge's plane is first.
American.....Hmmmm, Beechcraft, Laird, VICKERS VILDEBEEST?
Martin :)
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Nope.......
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Well I've spent an hour looking at dozens of websites..... still clueless.
Another clue please!
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its not a dehaviland is it, same people who made the Twin otter?
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Andyn`s is an Isaac`s Fury.
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Andyn`s is an Isaac`s Fury.
Nope :)
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So, you want a clue eh?? O.K. first off, its not Canadian, secondly its not a Norseman. the main clue is that there were only 22 built and they were used in Alaska in the 30s. I have to admit it is a very rare bird........ :D :D.....Smudge
One left.
That one.
Fairchild/American Pilgrim 100B registered as NC709Y.
-Rob
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You got it Rob....Pilgrim 100, built by the American Airplane & Engine Co Long Island in 1931-32...well done....... O0 O0......Smudge
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which now leaves the one I posted before smudge's in all the confusion, any idea what that wing root is off?
from earllier, its still live and NO the previous answer of Aeroflot Ilushyn IL76 is incorrect, so what is it and WHO owns it?
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Galaxy
Bob
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smaller than a galaxy, also who owns it?
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Heavy Lift used to be based in Eire ?
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Is it a Herc?
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no andyn not an air foyle jet,
arrow 5, not a herc, bigger than a herc. and who's the owner?
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ps, regarding nationality, arrow you are in the right ball park
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is a c17 Globe master
john
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not the c17, however you're in the right ball park with that.
a clue: boeing c17 replaced the jet.
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I can see the Aeroflot colours , must be one of the new breed of flying-boats ?
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arrow5, way way WAY OFF,
no its not aeroflot, and this one lands as good on water as a boeing 767.
heres another view of the same plane
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It's a Lockheed L-300-50A Starlifter, formerly Lockheed's demonstrator, now owned and operated by NASA as the 'Gerard P. Kuiper Airborne Observatory'
The aircraft was withdrawn from service during 1995 and is currently stored NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California.
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indeed Robert, You are correct.
what have you got to offer us? its your go now
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One moment....
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/plane.jpg)
What is it?
For extra credit, what does the livery commemorate?
-Rob
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thats an Aermachi 339, same type of plane used by the Italian display team,
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Celebrating 100 years of flight, 214° Gruppo/ 61° Stormo.
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post a different one Rob, that was too easy!!
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anyone know mine yet?
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that one is still live, just there are two going on here.
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Here's another easy one for boaters.... O0
Anyone any got tips on taking pictures of planes.. getting the props blured but the plane in sharp
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Its a dak from the BBMF.
You can blur the photo's in photoshop or if you don't posses enough money or sanity to get photoshop, paint.net is excellent.
Not a lot you can so really on the plane front, its both blurry or both still.
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DC3 Dakota
Bob
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A bit of Photshop Elements....
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Given up on mine have we?
I'll give you a clue, it's an english homebuilt
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Dscn0037.jpg)
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post a different one Rob, that was too easy!!
This one?
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/plane2.jpg)
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Anyone any got tips on taking pictures of planes.. getting the props blured but the plane in sharp
A slightly slower shutter speed... but if you are using a point and shoot digi compact, you cant do that unless its 'high end'.
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rob, that is the soviet equivilent of the U2, the Myasishchev M-55 Geophysica, nato reporting name "mystic"
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Hi andyn,
Is it a Smith Miniplane? :-\
Derek. :police:
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WRONG. It's not a Smith Miniplane :embarrassed:. I have a strong suspicion that the original designer was from the Southend area and managed to kill himself in one of them :-\.
I am now off for a little Google.
Derek. :police:
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Hurray, got it ;D ;D - it's a Taylor Monoplane (I hope) :) and I think I am right in that the designer met his end in one :'(.
Derek. :police:
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This is a Taylor Monoplane
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/bobinnit/Us53152.jpg)
or could it be the Taylor Titch
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Now that does look scary!!
Bob
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Shouldn't the engine be attached to the fuselarge! :o
Gary :)
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Both andyn's and bobinnit's planes are Taylor monoplanes O0
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OK whats this ?
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What's this Dicky - chickened out of Name that Ship - too hard for ya eh???? ;D ;D ;D
looks a bit Russian to me this like.
aye
John
bluebird
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antonif 225
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it is indeed the Antonov AN225, one of a kind flying, formerly part of the Russian space program, it ws intended to carry Buran on its back, (hence the blister fairings), derived from the Antonov AN124, by changing the tail to a H tail as opposed to conventional tail, extended span, and lengthening of the fuselage. it was resurected into life because Air Foyle / Antonov OKB who ran the AN124 were getting calls for transportation of loads that were too big for the 124.
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c'mon cos, your go
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Here's one.....
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Bronco OV-10?
Peter.
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Correct!
And this?
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Martin have you been to cosford ,is that the Argi plane FMA Pucara
Proteus
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Whats this ?
What is about to happen ?
Who is the bloke in the cockpit ?
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is that a grob glidre, somewhere in NZ and a record is about to be set, highest soar of a glider?
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is that a grob glidre, somewhere in NZ and a record is about to be set, highest soar of a glider?
NO - much nearer home !
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your first glider flight eh druid?
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NOPE
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Schleicher... something - ends up in a high tree?
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Martin what is the answer to 133
Proteus
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Is it a KA8?
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Thats a Schleicher ASK-18...
I built one (4 meter) for someone once... and he crashed it on its first flight. >:(
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Martin have you been to Cosford ,is that the Argi plane FMA Pucara
Proteus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1)
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Thats a Schleicher ASK-18...
I built one (4 meter) for someone once... and he crashed it on its first flight. >:(
No its not a Schleicher K8 or ASK18. ( or any other Schleicher )
Hint - it was made in the UK - but with a Germanic influence.
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Thats a Schleicher ASK-18...
I built one (4 meter) for someone once... and he crashed it on its first flight. >:(
No its not a Schleicher K8 or ASK18. ( or any other Schleicher )
Hint - it was made in the UK - but with a Germanic influence.
A Slingsby Skylark?
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This is the aircraft Derek Piggott did the UK height record in and hail damaged the glider O0
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So whats this?
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not sure what the black prop thing is, but a northrop F5 / T38 hangs above it. oh martin, behind the pucara, there is a B.A.C Canberra, early model, identified by the full canopy rather than the off-set fighter style of later variants, and te full length of the Martin B57 American Canberra, (whicg also has longer engine nacelles to accommodate its P&W power plant)
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This is the aircraft Derek Piggott did the UK height record in and hail damaged the glider O0
No - that was a Slingsby T21 and this one wasn't made by Slingsbys.
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This is the aircraft Derek Piggott did the UK height record in and hail damaged the glider O0
No - that was a Slingsby T21 and this one wasn't made by Slingsbys.
From Wikipedia...
"Derek Piggott is perhaps best known as a gliding instructor. In addition he had success as a competition glider pilot winning three regional championships, was the UK National aerobatic glider champion in 1961 and set several national gliding records including the single-seat altitude record of over 25,000 feet in an active thunderstorm in a Slingsby Skylark."
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This is the aircraft Derek Piggott did the UK height record in and hail damaged the glider O0
No - that was a Slingsby T21 and this one wasn't made by Slingsbys.
From Wikipedia...
"Derek Piggott is perhaps best known as a gliding instructor. In addition he had success as a competition glider pilot winning three regional championships, was the UK National aerobatic glider champion in 1961 and set several national gliding records including the single-seat altitude record of over 25,000 feet in an active thunderstorm in a Slingsby Skylark."
I was thinking of his flight in the open cockpit T21 when he was an ATC instructor and took a VERY cold pupil up to a great height (without oxygen either) during the Championships at Camphill in Derbyshire to establish a new two seater height record.
So we were both right O0 The photo is not a Slingsby built glider though !.
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The black prop thing is, I think, a Velie Monocoupe, probably the model 90
but I'm just guessing ;D
I like the thread - very challenging, but feel bad cos I don't have any to fire in return
andrew
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The black prop thing is, I think, a Velie Monocoupe, probably the model 90
but I'm just guessing ;D
Close Andrewh.. but close enough.
"Velie Monocoupe Model 70...one of the first planes ever built for private fliers. Velie Monocoupes were built from 1927-1929"
I have a plan for a 1/4 scale one... powered by a OS 26FS :D
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EEEEugh, a wetmotor!
I love Diesels (and the fuel), but have given up with wetmotors. Note to self - must sell them
Sorry about the model number!
andrew
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How about this then?
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Dscn0163.jpg)
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Is it an Avro?
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Just Guessing, as always.
My guess is a Verhees Engineering Delta registered F-PDHV seen at the PFA rally at Kemble
It looks a little too shourt-coupled for me!
andrew
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There are some Brave pilots out there!!!
Can I jump in with one?........
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Martin - one of my favourites!
The Only jet propelled agricultural aircraft (ever?)
I won't say any more, except its a candidate for the ugliest plane ever
Most beautiful plane ever?
andrew
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.... and it was a jet biplane too - PZL-Mielec M-15 Belphegor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSK-Mielec_M-15_Belphegor
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BTW: A whole load of weird but unnamed aircraft here: http://www.aviationpics.de/myst/page_01.htm (http://www.aviationpics.de/myst/page_01.htm)
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"Most beautiful plane ever?
Andrew"
Douglas DC-4 derivative??
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No, Nowt to do with DC4
Right era though - mid 40s
andrew
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Its the Rebublic XF-12 Rainbow reconnaisance aircraft, it was built to do 450 mph at high altitude, it must be up there with the best looking aircraft.... O0 O0....Smudge
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Speaking of good looking aircraft, don't forget this one, she's beautifull......... ;) ;).....Smudge
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TSR 2 O0
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Got it in one mate... O0.......Smudge
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Whats this then ?
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A nervous pilot? - his props stopped! ;D
Gary :)
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It's a green fighter. Fitted with a wind turbine to improve fuel consumption. ;)
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'Brave pilots' eh! Remember the old pilots motto.... 'There are old pilots and bold pilots but, there are no old bold pilots'!
That little aluminium delta looks very scary, :D it certainly took a brave and bold pilot to test fly that one for the first time but fly, it cetainly does.
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XF-88B ... Supersonic propeller-Voodoo
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How about this?
Hint - it's not the Ronseal plane {-)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/img0045.jpg)
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It's a Convair XF-92A, prototype of the F-102 elta Dagger,but I have no idea about the colour scheme..... ::) ::)..........Smudge
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Martin - those Mystery pics on the Greman site you gave us the URL of are fascinating - its like every aircraft recognition test I have ever tooken rolled into one!
Thanks for them
SF - it was indeed the Rebublic Rainbow
andrew
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OOPs missed a D off Delta Dagger..........Never mind, try this un!! Strange to say this is one of my all-time favorites, the aircraft is still in exsistance at Pensacola naval base in Florida, it used to be outside but may have been moved into the museum by now, perhaps one of our American friends can let me know its fate..... O0....Smudge
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Its one of the two Pogo fighters (actually 3 if we include the jet)
I can never remember which is which, and they look superficially similar
Convair XFY-1 - now I gottit
Brave man to do this - needs a rubber neck and massive er er er determination
andrew
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Whats this then?
its one of my favourites
There is a clue round the fuselage
Answers must not include the names of fruits!
andrew
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Great stuff Andrew, the other aircraft was by lockheed (I found a drawing for it). The jet was made by Ryan, I think it was called the Vertijet or something like that.. O0......Smudge
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whats thin? anserr PIG UGLY
its a wibault 283T
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there are 3 in this picture, the one I want is the black one, the other two are Sukhoi SU27's
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Ghost - the trimotor isn't a Wibault, but right country
OK, so the French did lots of trimotors!
andrew
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Its an SU-47 Berkut (GoldenEagle) but I have no idea what the French tri-motor is :( :(...........Smudge
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Clue - theres a link to the Republic plane, en francais
andrew
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I guess it must be the Arc-En-Ciel or Couzinet 70. It was the rainbow link that gave it away :D.........Have a look at this one, is it a boat or is it a plane??.....Smudge
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hi there . That is a russian Ekranoplan orlyonok (s-26) on a run out of the navel base on kaspiysk. This photo was taken after the break up of the USSR as she as the russian navy flag on her fin and not the hammer and sical of the USSR. Great bit of kit.
john
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ok what about this one
john
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Right, Smudge - its the Couzinet Arc-en-Ciel.
The model no. is more of a challenge since the model 70 got changed several times and rebuilt radically at least once. The picture of the model shows it with the Hispano engines, so my guess is that the pic shows the model 71 or 72 flying banana (same plane as the model 70, but they changed the fuselage, wings and tail)
I see we're in ground effect at the present - how about this?
andrew
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ok what about this one
john
Also known by NATO as the Capspian sea monster.
Paul.
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ok what about this one
john
Also known by NATO as the Capspian sea monster.
Paul.
if you search the caspian sea on google earth around the caspian sea, i think its still there, so you may find it
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ok what about this one
john
Also known by NATO as the Capspian sea monster.
Paul.
if you search the caspian sea on google earth around the caspian sea, i think its still there, so you may find it
It still there at the bottom. It sunk in 1980 due to pilot error. He put in to much pitch at take off ,she started rising steeply. He throttled back abruptly and applied the elevator. She started to bank and hit the water and sank. All the crew got out unhurt.Shame end of a ledgened .
john
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There is some good stuff on WIG (Wing in Ground effect) here
http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php
and here - with the russian ekranoplans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing-In-Ground_effect_vehicle
any takers for this - there is a clue above the nose
andrew
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Here's an easy one.................
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Hmmmm - thats quite a challenge!
Dome head rivets - puts it probably in the 30s or 40s
The thing to the RHS is even more interesting - and must contain the answer, If I could figure out what is going on
The Thing may well be a door, and the silver rectangular features some sort of latch or locator
I'm waffling to hide the fact I don't know - yet
andrew
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There is some good stuff on WIG (Wing in Ground effect) here
http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php
and here - with the russian ekranoplans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing-In-Ground_effect_vehicle
any takers for this - there is a clue above the nose
andrew
Goblin Parasite fighter, it hitched a lift with the heavy bombers. program was shelved in favour of in flight refuelling
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i think the pic with the rivets, could be a DC4 or DC3
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BFO - its a plane modified for display, and the silver things are clamps which hold a prespex sheet so's we can see inside.
Right so where is there a air museum with a dark coloured fus like this which FTFrankie might have visited?
The answer should be the work of only a few seconds of research
er
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Dead right , Ghost, Goblin it is
I believe it also did the pilots heads in, too.
Flying right up to an aluminium cloud and slowing down in an egg with no great stability - you can get toothmarks on your heart!
andrew
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ok, something simple for you.
what is this?
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Wright Flyer I ?
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Wright Flyer I ?
ummm
NO !
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Mk II??
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It's a Tupelov T144, Concordski!
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If so it's a very early Concordski - cos they got canard fins later in life
You canardly miss them
sorry
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Definitely Concordski. O0
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It is, and there are the canards in a "full up" position just behind the cockpit
They may, of course, be retractable and deployed only for low speed use
andrew
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The answer to your picture funtimefrankie, is a Boeing B-17 flying Fortress. Starboard side of the nose. ;D........Smudge
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In the absence of any other input I will assume that Ghostie is happy the answer was correct and therefore submit the following:
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The answer to your picture funtimefrankie, is a Boeing B-17 flying Fortress. Starboard side of the nose. ;D........Smudge
Wrong
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If so it's a very early Concordski - cos they got canard fins later in life
You canardly miss them
sorry
not a 100% sure . But i think it a late photo of her in her second life. If you look o her fin you will see the US flag as she was hired by one of the us plane makers as a supersonic test bed.
john
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BB
That looks like a Harrier.
Brian
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I'm afraid you are not right there Brian.
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Supermarine Swift?
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I'm afraid not.
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P1127/Kestrel ??
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Supermarine Vickers Scimitar F.1 :-\
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A bit unfair to Brian but it was in fact the P1127 Kestrel, the forerunner of the Harrier.
The main difference from the angle of the picture is the thickness of the intakes. The Kestrels were very thin but the Harriers were very much thicker.
Over to SwordfishFairey
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yes my pic was the Tupolev TU144 "Charger", known by the popular press as Conkordski. note the US and Russian (not SOVIET) flag on the tail plane as well, mac.doug helped Tupolev get it again
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Just the helicopter as I havn't a clue about the icebreaker ;)............Smudge
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One of the Sikorsky family ?
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Sorry bobinnit, but nope...
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MiL Mi-8 "hip", and this is the proof, a photo of an MI-8
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ok, whats this 4 engined jetliner?
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Ghost it is a
Ilyushin Il-96M
Brian
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How about this?
(http://www.geocities.com/spacetransport/images/hypersoar1_draw.jpg)
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bri, how did you guess that so quick!
is that "project Aurora" andy?
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bri, your go :) IL-96M it is
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Ghost I saw it at Farnborough a couple of years back.
Brian
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your go :)
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And this is
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taylor craft AUSTER?
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Too Quick Ghost!!
Your Go
Brian
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ok whats this?
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This is a German Blohm und Voss Bv 141 two-seat reconnaissance aircraft.
Bob
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yup
your go bob
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Try this one then
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A Platus?
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Close, very close, 1 letter out!!
Bob
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Pilatus PC12, made in Switzerland.
so the swiss do make things other than cookoo clocks, watches and army knives
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Yes, Pilatus PC - 12/45.
Your go
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ok, whats this?
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Shin Maywa US-1A STOL (Short Takeoff and Landing) Air Sea Rescue Amphibian
Bob
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yep, that was quick as well, turn my back and bang in comes you with the right answer. I'd thaught that one would have some folks guessing for an hour.
your go!
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They do look very much like the US Albatros
Bob
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they are, i think, good looking, there's just no messing with the styling either, very pourposeful in design.
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This is easy as I need my bed!!
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That a NASA Project....
NASA Proteus experimental aircraft, designed for high altitude, and earth monitoring science missions.
Rob
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thats the mother ship for the Rutan space-ship 1
Scale Composites project proteus :) designed by Burt Rutan
http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/proteus.pl
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mgrob your go
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ok here goes...
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/plane.jpg)
Rob O0
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Swiss Farner HF Colibri 1 SL and one seriously wierd puppy
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correct..... thought it take longer than that O0
your go
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whats this twin engined turboprop cargo plane
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Looks like a Fokker but which model I don't know
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finally one thats foxed people,
nope not a fokker.
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Ghost, I think it's an Antonov, but I'm not sure which model, possibly an An24.
Peter.
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is an Antonov AN-24B
The AN-24 is the original aircraft in a successful family of twin turboprop civil and military transports. It entered service in 1963 and more than 1100 were built.
Rob
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its an antonov :)
i actually googled AN26 to find that image. but pete, you got closest first. :)
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How about this one.
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Blackburn B20 seaplane, ww2 era
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Blackburn B-20, now that's a seriously weird plane!
OK, name this plane?
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Sea dart?
Convair F2Y from the 1950's supersonic fighter.
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yep grass hopper, just googled that and well it looks like its your go
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saw this and thought how nice.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/grasshopper1.jpg)
but the manufatcrers name was on the wingplate.....
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Looks like a trainer aeroplane I flew a few years back.... crashed it!
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Is it a DeHaviland Otter derivitive?
Bob
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its a Polish built PZL-Okecie PZL-101
the PZL 101 is a licenced built yakovlev 12M, and probably has a similar role to the Piper super cub.
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Ghost is close, Polish built Gawron GCB3raszka - it's gonna be difficult to find one to stump you guys - nearly as bad as train spotters!
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ok whats this?
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Piper Seminole ?
One for you
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/H900XP-exterior.jpg)
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yep it was
thats a cessna Citation Corporate Jet
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correction, Citation X
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ok whats this beauty?
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And another one
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/grasshopper5.jpg)
you may have cottoned on that I like civilian aircraft most, especially the corporate jets - sleek, stunning beautiful - and wayyy out of my league.
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i stand corrected grasshopper, looks like the corporate brochure pic as well.
nope not the Rockwell B1.
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Should I shout Pontoon then, oops I mean 'Blackjack' TupolevTu-160?
Should have realised by your panache for aircraft from the eastern bloc...
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way way out of my league too.
yep TU160 Blackjack, (B1B-ski)
amd that looks like an Adam A700
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Obviously too easy for you, this will be too, but it's one of my all time favourite 'planes - did thousands of miles on these in my youth, Ahh happy days.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/malaysia.jpg)
p.s. enough for one night...over and out.
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fokker 27, the one that was mistaken for an AN26 earlier
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I'm surprised no one got my snippet of the Lancaster ;D :angel:
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11668.0;attach=52267;image)
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OK, going back in time a bit....
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Got ya! it's a WACKET GANNET !!
http://www.tgplanes.com/Public/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=624 (http://www.tgplanes.com/Public/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=624)
How about this one?!?! :)
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I think that's Vickers answer to the Mosquito, only the vertical tail looks more DH than Vickers
a bit of research needed!
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No idea here, despite having built model planes for much longer than I've been building boats! It looks a lot like a Westland Welkin to me, except that the wings are too short and the tailplane is in the wrong place.
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How about a De Haviland Hornet?
Rick
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Rick,#
Nose and tail are right, but engines and wings way not so - I'm sure I've seen these wings on a Vickers experimental twin.
Wonder what the engines are - RR Exe?
andrew
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Those exhausts look like Merlins.
Bob
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I'll put you out of your misery.... it's a Vickers f7 41
Someone else got one? If not I'm going to look in my really obscure folder!
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How about this one??
Brian
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Cessna Bird dog?
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Bird dog?
Nope!
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PIPER GRASSHOPPER-L4
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Piper J-5A ?
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ok here a weird one
john
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Beriev Bartini VVA 14 - Anyone know where I can find more info on it?
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/0/4/1349406.jpg)
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on the ball to night martin. But to be correct you got a photo of a 14m1p. It started life as the vva 14 then was converted to a WIG craft and called the 14m1p as you can see were her extra front engines were.
john
There a great book called Russia's Ekranoplans.
Red star volume 9
By sergey komissarov
midland publishing £18.99
ISBN 1 85780 146 6
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My one is still no to the answers.
Brian
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11668.0;attach=52477;image)
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Ching, is it a Taylorcraft ? I think they predated the Piper cubs a little bit
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Fraid Not Grasshopper.
Brian
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brian, looks like an aeronca champ
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Fraid not Ghost
Brian
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Ok
Time for someone else to have a go, my one was a 1940 built Stinson 10.
Brian
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never even heard of stinson
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Google it Ghost.
Brian
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ok, whats this?
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Ilyushin 14
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i'll give you that, its actually an IL-12, (rounder topped tail compared to IL14)
Your go
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Time for an incredibly easy one now, whats this?
Taken at RIAT '05
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Imag0101.jpg)
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Its a Mil 24 Hind spewing I/r decoy flares
Sorry can't identify the type letter
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Surely the only way you could know that hel'o from that photo' was to have been there?
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Naaaah, it has the "sit" of a Hind !
Having said that it just might be a Havoc (same sit but much smaller)
I am radically short-sighted so I have always recognised everyone and everything by features other than focussed detail
And yes, I'm often wrong
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Very sorry but no
Come on, everyone knows this heli!
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Is it an Apache? (taken at RIAT, Fairford 2005)
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Yarp, your go O0
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Hows about:
Points for both planes, nickname of the bigger brother, too
andrew
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Grumman F8 'Bearcat' and deHavilland DH99 forerunner to the Vampire / Venom?
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sorry, grasshopper
no and no and in that order
I don't know the DH99 - must find out
andrew
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P47 Thunderbolt?
the jet's got me stumped - was almost sure it's deHavilland
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It is a P47, almost certainly a 47D
Since its French (clue to the twinboom) the throttle probably worked the "wrong " way round
For 2 bonus points - the Thunderbolt's nickname, and the nickname of the Thunderbolt II?
andrew
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The twin boomer is a SIPA S-200 Minijet first flown in 1952.... O0............Smudge
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Thunderbolt, "Jug", short for Juggernaut...dont know mk 11 , "Big Jug"? :-\
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Nice one Smudge - I have a plan for one of these intended for a Jetex 200 - its a chubby and charming little plane
Jug is also good, and the Tbolt II is better known as a Warthog
is this too simple?
andrew
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...bit small.... :-\
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True, O King.
I will check them before posting
This is the same picture, I see but rather easier
andrew
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Hi Andrew, looks like the Supermarine 224 to me. First aircraft to be called Spitfire, but not the success its descendent turned out to be.... O0.....Smudge
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Both right!
Must be your go!
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Try this un..... 8)......Smudge
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looks like a Blom und voss
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Might look like it ghost, but it ain't ;).....Smudge
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Burnelli theory but dont know who made it. :embarrassed:
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Very warm arrow5. Here's a clue, it was built in this country. ;).Smudge
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No it wasnt, it was built in England but they gave it a Scottish name >>:-( It is the Cunliffe-Owen "Clyde Clipper" ::) {-) {-) {-)
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Burnelli CBY-3
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Hi arrow5, you got it, Cunliffe-Owen OA-1, although you have lost me with the comment "no it wasn't". As I live in England," in this country", means England. The aircraft was built at Eastleigh near Southampton.fist flight Jan 1939.... ??? ???.......Smudge.
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Just being nationalistic Smudge. O0
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So does that mean its my turn ?
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Go for it!! O0 O0
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Since we all like twin boomers, how about a streamliner art-deco one from the 30s.
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Need some help......this one didn`t fight any Saracens :-X
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Consulting my Boys own book of Aeroplanes tells me that it is the Shelton Crusader from the 1930's............. ;).............Smudge
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That is it , the only one ever built. I had to consult my big boys big book ! Try and get a read, library or ebay etc, priceless. Did the hint help ?
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Thanks for the tip.... Crusader - Shelton Flying Wing,
Oar locks!!!! found it after much trawling only to be pipped at the post!
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Fancy another ? Not so elegant this time.
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Looks like an Aeronca Champion to me but a bit unsure about that fin!
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Nope, right country.
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Could it be the Stearman-Hammond Y
and in anticipation heres an easy one
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/bobinnit/Fgallery1-1.jpg)
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Yep Bobinnit Y-1, my clue was going to be Hampster :'(
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Bobinit's plane, took quite a bit of searching but it's the Aerocat Amphibian.
http://www.creativeflight.com/homepage.html (http://www.creativeflight.com/homepage.html)
Great looking plane! O0
(http://www.creativeflight.com/gallery/Fgallery1-9.jpg)
(http://www.creativeflight.com/gallery/Fgallery1-6.jpg)
(http://www.creativeflight.com/gallery/Fgallery1-8.jpg)
(http://www.creativeflight.com/gallery/Fgallery1-4.jpg)
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This one?
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Civvy Sunderland... a Sandringham ?
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That's close enough! Short S-25 Sunderland 5(AN)
Want another one?
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What happens next?
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What happens next is that it carries on and ploughs into a line of parked aeroplanes sending debris everywhere.
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I think the crash barrier trips the plane up and it ends up with the tail in the air,smashed props and the deck-hand on the right running for clean underwear :o
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AndyN has it!!!
How did it get past two crash barriers?!?! Oops!
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OK, what happened here?
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I believe that was caused by stress, as the starlifters did have major wing stress problems, and was what they were eventually retired for.
Either that or something crashed / landed on it.
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Nope! Although stress expatiated the cause... a more basic error was involved.
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Pilot folded up the undercarriage?
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Nope. A routine ground operation....
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The plane on the right hit it
Just noticed the other wing O0
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Naaa..... 61-2778 (cn 300-6004) Tennessee ANG. Aircraft was fueled with the vents to the fuel tanks plugged.
The wing over pressured and blew out. Damage compounded by wing root corrosion.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA%20-%20Air%20Force/Lockheed%20C-141B%20Starlifter%20(L-300)/0209303/L/&width=1024&height=780&sok=&sort=&photo_nr=&prev_id=&next_id=
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You can post your one now Andy. O0
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looks like an expencive error!
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Pilot folded up the undercarriage?
sparky, c141 has its landing gear located in sponsons on the fuselage, not folding into the wing
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Ok then Martin
Got a better one, what happened here?
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Don't challenge a bigger plane, with bigger props to the boarding gate?
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Another plane nearby was having a test done on it engines when it started to roll forward and did that. Mythbusters tried that a while back and yes it is true thats what happens when a rotating prop hits another plane.
Brian
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that WAS also a piper cherokee.
whoops
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I'll accept Martin's, but as he's just had a go lets pass the baton to Brian {-)
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OK
What are these?
Brian
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Could it be the Ilyushin IL-76TD.
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It certainly could, your go Bob
Brian
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OK easy one ;)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/bobinnit/bbbb.jpg)
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the new M10 from airbus - i think
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Airbus yes, m10 no
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it replaces the C130J M something or other
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A400M
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correct gingyer your turn
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(http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/0B7BD90D_C080_82DC_989A67FEF102DDD6.jpg)
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New RAF plane Bombardier BD-700-1A10 Sentinel R1
Brian
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your go biran O0
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This is?
Brian
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Fouga Magister
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You are close Arrow
Brian
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Fouga 90/90A?
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Close but no cigar!
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Woa!!!!
I boobed, Arrow5 is right it is a Fouga Magister. The picture I have said it was a Fouga CM 17, only after another check did I see it was called a Magister.
Sorry, Sorry, Sorry.
Brian
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>:( I want my money back!
Do another one Brian.
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No refunds
Try this one.
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Zenair something.... 601 / 650??
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No
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I think its one of these,
(http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/607/al-beyer2.jpg)
a Zenithair Zodiac
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Thats the one Ghost
Brian
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thanks Brian, whats this little beauty then?
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Diamond DA42 Twin Star.... with or without optional diesel engines! :o
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Martin, it is indeed a Diamond DA42 Twinstar
Your go
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Name this plane.....
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"Germanwings" Airbus A319 D-ANKO
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No, Rover! ..... Airbus A319, correct!
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here's an ugly one for ya
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Skyvan something.....
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shorts skyvan. your go
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:)
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here's an ugly one for ya
Here's a better looking one!
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Reply 405 Antonov An-70
Reply 406 Short SC-7 Skyvan
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Yep! Fancy a go Dicky?
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Dont know a thing about planes or whats been on here before but here goes
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Antonov An-225 one of the biggest planes in the world
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Ars oh glasshopper as I said I'm not much good at this.
Your go. O0
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No worries DickyD,
I've been trying to find something to stump you lot.......how about this
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/weebee-1.jpg)
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do you think shorts used a ford transit as a template for them {-)
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nah
Lucida Estima MPV - note the curved roofline :D
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Cheated and did a search...... its a WeeBee. Smallest aircraft to carry a man ?
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nah
Lucida Estima MPV - note the curved roofline :D
Could have been a hicube version !!!! ::)
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Cheated and did a search...... its a WeeBee. Smallest aircraft to carry a man ?
Is that the one with a lawn mower engine?
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Correct Rob, and your offering is?
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my offering is to ask someone else to post something, must be british and must be good looking.
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Thank you Rob, I`m owed one anyway for the Fouga. From my archives ( dates me a bit) a great British warrior.
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HANDLEY PAGE VICTOR K Mk 2.
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Quick Bobnit, the photo was taken at Elvington a dozen years ago during fast taxi runs by this privatly owned aircraft. What happened to this beauty, can she still be fired up?
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Name this plane.....
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Quick Bobnit, the photo was taken at Elvington a dozen years ago during fast taxi runs by this privatly owned aircraft. What happened to this beauty, can she still be fired up?
Looks like it! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFcx3z9qPnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFcx3z9qPnU)
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Thanks Martin, an impressive beast isn't it. I think the engine shot is from a Lockhead Constellation.
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Quick Bobnit, the photo was taken at Elvington a dozen years ago during fast taxi runs by this privatly owned aircraft. What happened to this beauty, can she still be fired up?
Looks like it! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFcx3z9qPnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFcx3z9qPnU)
well done that man.. British and possibly the best looking thing built......... ever.
i built one as a slope soarer many moons ago... superb aircraft.
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Thanks Martin, an impressive beast isn't it. I think the engine shot is from a Lockhead Constellation.
Correct! Lockhead Constellation.
Tricky one this.....
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With all those corrugations I think it is a Wilga from Poland,used as glider tugs in UK ?
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Yes a Wilga 2000. I thought the unusual engine configuration would throw you!
OK, who flies this plane?
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patty wagstaff seen here by her extra 300, which looks remarlably like the one you posted Martin
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Took the words out me mouth Ghost O0 How about another 1950s oddity.
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Well it looks like a Beaver up front....... ?!?!
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Hey, That's a Max Holste Broussard, I think its type number is 152 and from the camo it looks like the one that lives at Duxford
It used to be my competition Pistachio model! That's indoor, free-flight, rubber power and 8 inch span
andrew
Sorry - not on a machine where I can set a puzzzzzler
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Correct Andrew , it is the same aircraft. Anybody want to take a shot ?
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How about this one?
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Suspect its a Fairchild Ranger
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Suspect its a Fairchild Ranger
I think Ranger refers to the engine... I think! :-\
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Fairchild Argus
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Fairchild Argus
/quote]
as above F24w model, picture taken at Sibson, I believe?
try this one ;) ;)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/bobinnit/shorty.jpg)
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Photoshoped A330
Brian
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Especially designed for shorthaul flights ;D
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Fairchild Argus
Not an Argus but I'll let you have it, it's actually a Fairchild 24R-46A.
Photo taken at Stibbington, my local parachute centre. My 'Mrs' keeps telling me to have a go....
and to cut costs, she's volunteered, quite readily, to pack the chute herself! ???
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Right, name this beauty?
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Bugatti racer.
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CORRECT! There are some very knowledgeable people on here!!! O0
What a beauty, well worth a read up...
http://www.bugattiaircraft.com/kalempa.htm (http://www.bugattiaircraft.com/kalempa.htm)
http://www.airventuremuseum.org/collection/aircraft/Bugatti%20Model%20100%20Racer.asp (http://www.airventuremuseum.org/collection/aircraft/Bugatti%20Model%20100%20Racer.asp)
Some one else have a go while I look for some more......
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HANDLEY PAGE VICTOR K Mk 2.
my favorite plan of all time, pity they wer pensioned off, built a matchbox kit of it, according to the litriture could do 0.95 Mach in a shallow dive.
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Easy one O0
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modified lyndsander?
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This is the tandem wing Lysander, built as a home defence beach straffer. It has a Delanne type second wing with end plates and a Boulton & Paul four gun turret. So you are right Warspite, it is a modified Lysander
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as I got jumped by Arrow earlier, I will have my go now,
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Aerospatiale SA 330 Z -05
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Andy, are you sure you don't stand at airport runways with a themos, note book and camera? lol
your go
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No but my dad does occasionally, must have rubbed off on me O0
My go ;) I've flown this one, even done a bit of dogfighting in it, and I've flown around Blackpool tower in one.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Imag0094.jpg)
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Come on! That's hard..... a small clue please! :D
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Note blue stripe under canopy and blue stripe on wing reflected on canopy, and the fact that I said I had flown in a couple of them. Theres only one organisation that lets any idiot fly a plane
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Grob "Tutor" of the ATC.
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Scottish Aviation Bulldog T1 ??
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Well done Arrow5, your go
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Thanks Andy, here`s how the RAF displayed at our local airshow (Inverness) a few years ago, not an Elfin Saftie to be seen. What is the plane?
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F4 Phantom.
Peter.
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McDonnell F-4 Phantom F4E I think :-\
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You were in first Peter, correct. He did a "dirty" pass then came back on full burner with condensation/shock-wave cone hiding most of the plane and disappeared with only the tail visible.
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What can you tell us about this plane?
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The aircraft is an Ilyushin IL-62, very much like the VC-10 with 4 engines at the rear. I would guess it is now a night club,in Moscow perhaps??............Cool... 8) 8)..Smudge
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mornin
nice paint job i reckon its a diner some where in the states?
gary
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Correct! But not in the States. Who owns it.....?
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Niki Lauda, ex racing driver?
it's in Kleinhaugsdorf Austrian - Czech border.
It's easy to google when you leave the tag line on the bottom of the photo........crop it before you paste, or was it a hint?
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A bit of a hint as I thought it was quite hard!
Yes, Niki Lauda's restaurant plane in Klienhaugdorf.
.... got a guess the plane grasshopper?
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easy one....
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/airplanes/z-tm-gulfs_edi-070608.jpg)
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is that a Gulfstream IV ?
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G550, but close enough for me.....privately owned, but I don't use it much
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{-) {-) {-) 8)
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whats this beautiful plane?
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Curtiss C-46 Commando............Nice............Smudge
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Yes, very easy on the eye! O0
Here's another of my favourite..... and extra points if you can name the location!
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Bae 146
location: biggin hill ???
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BAE 146/ Avrojet Regional Jet
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BAE 146 - London City Airport.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/61/Bristol_Type_188_%28XF926%29_Front.jpg/800px-Bristol_Type_188_%28XF926%29_Front.jpg)
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Bristol Type 188 at Cosford?
Rick
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your go rick O0
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OK, try this one...
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Could it be the Blackburn Botha??......... :-\........Smudge
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smudge, this is a blackburn botha, and judging by that, I'd say that it is your go
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its even the same photograph!!
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Yes, it is,. The photograph I used was scanned from a wartime book "The Royal Air force in Pictures" . It is also on Wikipaedia.
Rick
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Have a go at this one, it may not be as easy as it looks......... ???...Smudge
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JU87 STUKA dive bomber
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Nope....
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Is it the Proctor conversion they used in the Battle of Britain film? :-\ (Watched on TV the other day)
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Got ot in one arrow........... O0.......Smudge
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Where else would they have got a cranked wing, and a lot of wood to butcher :o So in similar vein but not so well done , just paintwork I think. Must have given ex-RAF boys a skipped heat-beat if it came into sight while they were pottering along over Kent :o What is it ?
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A Chipmonk
Lovely colour scheme... ::)
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it does look very much like a chip monk, BUT what is it trying to represent, obviously its a movie plane.
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Nope not a Chippie. ;)
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is it a T6 texan / harvard with an inline engine instead of its usual radial ?
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Nope {-)
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That is a Pilatus P-2, I think it is the one used in the Indiana Jones and the last Crusade movie. They were designed in Switzerland in 1942 and first flew in 1945. One interesting point is that they used the undercarriage from the Messerschmitt Bf-109 turned 180 degrees, to retract inwards....... O0..............Smudge
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz,z,z,z, z....z....z z z z ::) Yup, looks like a ZLIN526f trainer, thought I`d catch someone out. Well done Smudge.
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Cheers mate, have a try at this one, it has a connection with the sea........... ???...............Smudge
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Almost sure its an Arado - distinctive cowling - possibly a 197?
Rick
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Or maybe an Arado 195?
Rick
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Hmm, more Henschel than Arado at a guess. Those cowlings were pretty common fit for engines . Havent a clue , sorry. Nice plane for a scale model.
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Yes, the cowlings go with the engine - in this case a BMW 132M
Its an Arado 195, I believe. and was intended for the Graf Zeppelin - boat, not airship
andrew
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Ah yes, might have gone along with Arado if we could have seen bottom of fin & rudder. Well done. O0 Nice plane.
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Well done guys, Arado 195 it is. As you say Andrew for the Graf Zeppelin...... O0....... O0......... O0........Smudge
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Is it me to go? Here's another one from my wartime RAF book - a genuine one-off oddity.
Rick
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looks like a trainer, so they dont wreck the undercarriage, looks like a wire skid under the tail
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hmmm,
Old age and decrepitude are terrible things - I have a plan for this little beast (rubber power) and that rear fus is seriously stick-like
"Cygnet" is strongly in my mind and I need to remember the maker - Possibly General Avation. Memory or research should do the trick
andrew
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Well; memory and a quick look confirm is the GA Cygnet (in the open-topped form shown)
And it still exists in the MOF at East Fortune - don't remember it from my last walk round. However I am still hoping for the pics of the Dragon, Craig (if you are reading this!) ;D
Teeth into this, then - hope its big enough
andrew
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Sorry guys, but it's definitely NOT a Cygnet. It was a one-off and no longer exists.
Keep trying
Rick
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I'm sorry too
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How's about the GAL45 Owlet? Written off, as you say Aug 30 1942 (so coming up for its anniversary)
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Blast beat me to it >>:-( >>:-(
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That's the one - literally. Introduced as a trainer for the tricycle undercarriaged Boston. To be fair, they also modified a Cygnet, but that was side-by-side, rather than tandem.
Still trying to work out the mark number of the Wellington. Best guess so far is a GR Mk XII?
Rick
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Warmish, Rick
Not sure it ever was known by as mark number - but it must have had a works Mark number
andrew
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mystery 0304 - high altitude wellington
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B Mk VI. Pressurised for high altitude.
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Name that plane?
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Dornier 24ATT.
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You're up early Arrow!!!! >:(
Yep, Dornier Do-24ATT
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Dawn is best part of the day Martin O0 Staying with flying boats , here is a sometime visitor to Loch Insh for our Splash-in.
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I know that one... :D...........it's a Thurston Teal.............. ;)
Have a go at this one with the Royal Australian Navy's crack investigation team.......... :o...............Smudge
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What a load of bums :o Suppose a Sea King is too easy :P , so it`ll be a Sea Sprite. Correct on the Thurston "Teal", alas it was written-off in a storm in Ireland.
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Look what I found on You tube!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uvK7vnZhqgw (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uvK7vnZhqgw)
Beriev Bartini VVA 14 - Anyone know where I can find more info on it?
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/0/4/1349406.jpg)
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Smudge's is a SeaHawk
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Sea Sprite it is, over to you arrow5............... O0..............Smudge
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Oh well...another seabird from my era :( :'(.
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thats a Grumman mallard flying boat of the Royal Canadian Air Force SAR division
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whats the wrecked plane
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A Japanese "Zero"
Rick
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it WAS a zero rick
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so...over to Rick F
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Sorry Ghost but that aint a Mallard >:(
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So, who's go is it? I suggest that we wait for the question-setter to confirm that the answer is right before we leap in with another poser, otherwise it will get all out of hand. One mystery plane at a time is plenty.
Rick
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Your go Rick , the Grumman was a HU16 Albatross (correct about Canadian SAR though ::))
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OK, here's another from the history books! Not quite the first RFC aircraft, but close. I need the FULL correct designation of this plane.
This particular aircraft - from which I have, of course, removed the tail number - was a first in another way. Bonus points for the "first".
Rick
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Looks like a Be2b to me, in 1914 3 squadrons of these machines were sent to France as the first British aircraft so deployed.......... :o.........Smudge
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It would be cruel not to give it you, Smudge. It's actually a BE2a of No 2 Squadron RFC. Flown by Lt Harvey-Kelly, who landed at Amiens at 08:20 on 13 August 1914, No 347 was the first British aircraft to land on the continent after the outbreak of war.
Your go.
Rick
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Cheers Rick...............have a look at this one.............. ???............Smudge
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Its got measles everywhere except its ears!
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White Knight of the SpaceShipOne duo
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Is it the Virgin space plane launcher thing?
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Thats what I said O0
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Sorry, I'm from a different dimension ::)
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Do I hear the Twilight Zone theme playing, got it guys......... O0.................Smudge
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Ok then, lovely easy one, whatzziss???
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/X-36.jpg)
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X36 USAF tail less experimental thingie, (same as pictured below)
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what is the significance of this very odd jet ?
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Virgin Atlantic Globalflyer..
The first (and only) non stop solo flight round the world. O0
http://www.stevefossett.com/html/main_pages/aviation_globalflyer.html
RIP Steve Fossett :'(
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I assume its my go?...
Whats this?
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I thought I was the only one with photos that old! Looks like a Sopwith Tabloid.
Rick
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Looks like a Sopwith Tabloid.
Thats because it IS a Sopwith Tabloid Rick... O0
I built a model one.... a loooooong time ago.. ::)
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OK.... This time, name the plane and the ship - and if you find it on the web, be aware that they are not always right!
(Sorry about the picture quality)
Rick
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Tricky Ricky ;) I`ll hazard a guess, ship looks French so maybe a Farman ?
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'Fraid not - both British.
Rick
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Looks like a Wright flyer... no British, a Bristol Boxkite? :-\
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Not a Bristol - that would be far too long ..... which might be a clue?
Rick
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Cody... or more likely AVRO ?
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Shorts S27 biplane :-\
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Shorts S27 biplane :-\
...on HMS Hibernia ? :-\
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Sorry, didn't realize you wanted the ship as well.
Yes HMS Hibernia
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You've got it. It's the Shorts seaplane, engaged in the trials of 1912 on HMS Hibernia. HMS London was also involved.
Rick
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Away you go arrow5 your go. O0
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Oh, all right if you insist :embarrassed: A more modern craft.
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Is that a Republic SeaBee?
Alex
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Just could not resist this........ {-)..........Smudge
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You got it cowboy. O0 Nice one Smudge {-)
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Here we go:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/dta.jpg)
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Its one of those AMX things.
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Good guess, but no!
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IAI Kfir
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You got it!
Over to you
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(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/DSCN3232.jpg)
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That's an Air & Space 18A autogyro - I think!
Rick
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Well done, over to you
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Thanks Andy. Can't claim to know anything about the aircraft - just down to research on the web.
BTW, the "father" of the autogyro, Ken Wallis, lives nearby. He is the Honorary President of our Austin Seven club here in Norfolk, and puts on a flying display for us every year - not bad for a 92-year-old!
Anyway, heres another oldie.
Rick
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With ugly legs like that It has to be the Curtiss P40, and given the arrangement of the cowling I'm going to go for the P40F variant.
Alex
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You got it, Alex. Know to the RAF as the Tomahawk.
Rick
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The RAF called it the Kittyhawk.
Am building a model one at the moment.
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Here we go! another underneath shot
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/fib.jpg)
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Looks like a Beriev A-40 Albatros (NATO reporting name Mermaid) to me
andrew
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Looks like a Beriev A-40 Albatros (NATO reporting name Mermaid) to me
andrew
Good call sir! over to you
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damn just beat me to it!
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Just to clarify the Curtiss P40 from earlier, The RAF (and others) used the name Tomahawk for models equivalent to the P-40B and P-40C, and the name Kittyhawk for models equivalent to the P-40D and all later variants. The photo I used was captioned "Tomahawk" in the book.
Rick
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Don't worry, Andy, so long as the success goes to an Andrew and TAP (total aviation person)!
How about this?
andrew
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Hawks & throttles
I know that a large batch of fighters was ordered by the French AF, and was taken over by the RAF on the fall of France - I think they were either P40s or Grumman "Martlets" and had the normal French throttles working "forward to close".
I think they were modified to reverse this! - prolly a matter to removing the wongle-beam that the US maker must had fitted!
On the whats whis above there are points for the engines tooooo
andrew
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Short`s Stirling prototype ? :-\
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Arrow
Bit more, please (or possibly less ;D)
andrew
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Short S31/M4 half scale Stirling to prove the design before the full size aircraft were built, it's the props that give it away.......... :o............Smudge
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well Smudged, dead on.
I suspect Arrow was there too
your go
andrew
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Wot's this one then???............ ;)..............smudge
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Short S31/M4 half scale Stirling to prove the design before the full size aircraft were built, it's the props that give it away.......... :o............Smudge
I thought there was something not right about the prop at top of engine, never noticed the scale of the ladder,that would have been a clue.
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AndyN was just about to say its a Tu104
andrew
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Tu-104A it is, over to you Andrew....... O0
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Hows about this?
andrew
Has anyone figured what is going on? Are we aware that this is a BOAT forum?
Love it ;D
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Has anyone figured what is going on? Are we aware that this is a BOAT forum?
Love it ;D
Yes, don't let Martin know! {-)
It is it a Lockheed Martin?
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It not a Lockheed Martin; Martin
(I won't tell Martin if you don't)
andrew
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Heavily airbrushed Tiger Cat (with turbo engines ?)
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Arrow - I can see why you would think that.
If Only I had a plan view - it would show that the whole planform is blended and totally swoopy
certainlly turbo, and therein lay its demise :(
andrew
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It's the McDonnell XP-67 Bat, Their first original design to get a production order. first flew January 6th 1944, top speed 405 mph...... :o.........Smudge
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Sneaky one Andrew. No more artist`s impressions or we`ll be into Luft46 and other what-ifs. >:(
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Sneaky one Andrew. No more artist`s impressions or we`ll be into Luft46 and other what-ifs. >:(
It wasn't an artists impression Arrow. The image Andrew posted is real.
The XP-67 Flew quite extensively during 1944 until the constant engine problems caused them to stop development, If I remember rightly the engines caught fire during a ground test and destroyed a significant wing portion.
If memory serves there may also be a mention of it in Chuck Yeager's autobiography.
Alex
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It was a real picture, but had probably been "beiged" for some reason at the time.
Would I cheat you?
Would I dare?
Smudge to BAT (sorry)
andrew
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Up to bat......... ::)...........Try this one............Smudge
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Nope....doesnt ring a Bell ;D
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XP-75 Eagle
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andy I just googled xp75, and it looks like its your go
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Okay then O0
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/whattizzit.jpg)
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Predator UAV
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the fact that it says predator on the side may be a slight give away, arrow your go
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Oh xxxxx so it does
It is also the MQ-9 Reaper,
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Name this plane?
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Fischer Airlines Boeing 737
so easy... O0
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......correct >>:-(
OK..... name THIS plane?!! {-)
Clue: It's for a .25-.40, I fitted a OS .46 OS LA!
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Not something made by SIG is it?
Oh and by the way, a .46 is a bit poncy for it, I'd fit at least an Irvine .53
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Not by SIG well maybe designed by SIG but that wasn't the name on the box.....
( and on a tuned pipe! {-) )
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Ok I'll be honest I have no idea >:(
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How about this one, yes its a spit with a huge engine, but which mark?
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/DSCN3325.jpg)
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XIV?
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Fischer Airlines Boeing 737
so easy... O0
not only a 737 but a 737 300
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XIV?
I think so.
For a DC Sabre diesel, but with a J'en .47 ;)
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should be easy
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Dauphin 2
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Martin`s model is a type that we had about four of in the club and I just cant remember the name . Made from EPP foam and covered with duct-tape, great for combat, bouncable in crashes. Banshee ? Kerfuffle ? Manic ??? Dont know , was/is UK kit. Can we get back on track, I think I`m owed one ! Bonus if you name the missile.
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Looks like a Belvedere - one of the RAF's worst ever helicopters - lifting a Bloodhound missile. Both built by Bristol.
Rick
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Martin`s model is a type that we had about four of in the club and I just cant remember the name . Made from EPP foam and covered with duct-tape, great for combat, bouncable in crashes. Banshee ? Kerfuffle ? Manic ??? Dont know , was/is UK kit.
Very good JP PRANGSTER - http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.uk/detail.php?JPNO=5500279&activepage=1&Navmain=Aircraft%20-%20ARTF%20&subcatname=ARTF%20-%20JP (http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.uk/detail.php?JPNO=5500279&activepage=1&Navmain=Aircraft%20-%20ARTF%20&subcatname=ARTF%20-%20JP)
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Very good Rick, nice pair of Bristols :D Prankster yeah, dammit, recent memory gone, long term much better, old age grrrrrrr!
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Thanks Arrow. Here's another historic one. Name the aircraft and the famous ship.
Rick
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Plane is a Fairey Seafox, and a little research shows that one was deployed on HMS Ajax, so she must be the ship
andrew
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Martin`s model is a type that we had about four of in the club and I just cant remember the name . Made from EPP foam and covered with duct-tape, great for combat, bouncable in crashes. Banshee ? Kerfuffle ? Manic ??? Dont know , was/is UK kit.
Very good JP PRANGSTER - http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.uk/detail.php?JPNO=5500279&activepage=1&Navmain=Aircraft%20-%20ARTF%20&subcatname=ARTF%20-%20JP (http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.uk/detail.php?JPNO=5500279&activepage=1&Navmain=Aircraft%20-%20ARTF%20&subcatname=ARTF%20-%20JP)
An epp job ??? WHY?
Epp gliders are great but trainers? why bother?
Grow up and get some balsa ;)
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Agreed, I was the only one that didnt have an oil soaked "sponge-cake bendy-plane" , prefered the satisfying crunch of balsa in the heather O0 Funny to see the combateers hitting each other in flight and still carry on flying after (usually) recovery. Balsa is kind of newish too, my first was split cane and silk ! {-) {-) {-)
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You're right, Andrew. The distinctive "trunked" single funnel gives it away.
Next!
Rick
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I confess I didn't see or know that!
I googled Seafox and found what cruisers it was on, no Achilles or Exeter, so Viola! it must be Ajax
Have a go at this one, dunno why they stuck the broomhandle in at this angle!
for a bonus: what do they stand for?
andrew
When you know the answer you will know what the question means ;D
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Vickers 161, you do like your things to be only one ever made don't you? ;)
The broom handle is a COW gun
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..and the angle was to pot at higher flying Zeppelins with the Coventry Ordanance Works big gun.
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Indeed, a 45 degree angle no less ;)
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I am a mere grasshopper among the experts!
I do, I do like the unusual and interesting, and the knobbly, understimated and weird
Andy and arrow - it must be your puzzle
andrew
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Ooo lovely, wassiss then?
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/300px.jpg)
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..and the angle was to pot at higher flying Zeppelins with the Coventry Ordnance Works big gun.
Just butting in ( no change there!), how many Zeppelins where actually shot down by aeroplanes?
1,000 bullets into a Zeppelin wouldn't do that much damage I would have thought...... but what do I know?! :P
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Martin,
"Planes are just yachts with double sails"
They made special tracer bullets with a lot of WP* stuffed in the tailcone so they flamed as they flew
*white phosphorus (96 bullets, I think to a "Big" Lewis drum)
several "Zeppelins" were shot down by them and hundreds of observation baloons since they were filled with hydrogen
The COW gun fired shells, don't know about the provision to down airships or how they were fused
Prolly the most well-known was shot down by Lt. Warneford over Cuffley for which he got a VC (it was actually a Schutte-Lanz, but who was counting?)
The wassis is some version of Boeing F4 something which I could give chapter and verse if I had my book on the family in hand
andrew
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Martin, hydrogen gas in the Zeps ! I reckon normal tracers would be enough have the German crew panicking and shoot up as quick as possible out of range. No doubt many weird and wonderfull incendiary devices were tried. Zeppelins could fly much higher than winged aircraft.
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Bother, bother - failed to notice the taper in the wings :(
Its a Curtis P1 pursuit plane (prototype was the XPW-8B)
andrew
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What's the comment about 'the Grasshopper among the experts' - we having a dig?
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Grasshopper,
No, that was me doing "humble" as a novice among the shaolin experts.
I had three exact and authoritative answers in minutes
I class you as an expert too :)
andrew
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Special points for first pic of an aircraft called "Grasshopper" :angel:
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Andrewh has it O0
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I'm giving no clue, but its super
andrew
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Re Anti Zeppelin ammunition.
Try "Buckingham" for reference.
(Sorry, just remembered my old Biggles Books)
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Class me as an expert? ex as in 'has been' and spurt as in 'drip under pressure' fits the bill - but thanks anyway.
The grasshopper aeroplane/s
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/airplanes/grasshopper2.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/bigrasshopper/airplanes/grasshopper.jpg)
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I've got seven different "grasshoppers" so far
andrew
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...and thats only in English !!!! Well done. O0 Did anybody get the Air France light plane ?
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Not yet, but I have hopes,
especially if anyone has seven fingers
andrew
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Sept doigts? Grasshopper? Cicada? Cigale? Wozzat got to do with seven fingers? Chagall perhaps?
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OK. Super Cigale. Super in our part of France is slang for farmyard Calvados. Fearsome stuff about 80% alcohol.
This one's easy, vies with the Tigercat and Hornet for the title of best looking twin-engined fighter.
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I dont think it's the mosquito, the tail and cockpit is different.
Bob
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de Havilland Sea Hornet?
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Not quite a Westland Whirlwind. Might it be a Westland Welkin?
Rick
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Spot on, Rick. Lovely aircraft, isn't it?
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It certainly is. I thought it was a Whirlwind at first, but obviously different. First time I've seen a photo of a Welkin.
Here's a nice easy one for the weekend
Rick
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Sopwith Camel...or is it a trick question :o?
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Could either be a prototype Camel...or possibly one of the 2F.1 variants.
Its got a slightly more rounded leading surface on the tail and a few extra fuselage adjustments that make me think its probably the 2F
Alex
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Oh... maybe not that easy? It's not a Camel.
Rick
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How about a Snipe then ?
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Sopwith Pup.
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Oh no, nothing like a Pup ???
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Yes... I think Mr Arrow5 might have it... Its the dogleg in the tail that gives it away as a snipe, and the cowl of course but most the distinguishing features are hidden.
We shall wait for RickF to confirm but It can't be much other than a Snipe, as a believe it was the last rotary engined aircraft Sopwith got accepted by the RAF...but I stand to be corrected.
Alex
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Yes, it's a Snipe, photographed at Northolt in 1918.
Alex, I think they may have been the last rotary engined (Bentley BR2) aircraft from any manufacturer introduced into the RAF (late 1918). They were the RAF's standard single-seat fighter until 1926.
Over to you, Arrow5.
Rick
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OK Rick, Here is an oddity with a strange engine arrangement, nicknamed after a kitchen appliance.
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An egg beater/whisk?
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Sink plunger?
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An egg beater/whisk?
A bit more versatile than that ;). Whew imagine flying in a plane with the nickname Plunger :o, but nope !
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That is a: Douglas XB-42A "Mixmaster"
Designed in an American attempt to build a faster and larger payload medium bomber than the Mosquito.
That big ol' prop at the back caused too much adverse yaw in straight and level flight, they spent from 1944 until late 1946- early 1947 trying to sort it out but eventually gave it up as a lost cause with the advent of the Jet engine which made the Mozzie obsolete anyway.
:D
Alex
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You got it Cowboy O0
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Ok here's another easy one for all you marine mentalists:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/Aircraft/345572356325.jpg)
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How about a Felixstowe F5?
oldiron
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Nope 'fraid not! but good guess.
Alex
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Saro Lerwick?
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Saro Lerwick?
Looks nowt like a Lerwick AndyN! ;)
Lerwick:
(http://www.rcaf.com/aircraft/photos/lerwick.jpg)
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well that was the only ww1 seaplane i'd heard of with single tail
worth a try...
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it looks like a supermarine design
is it the seamew
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A bit later than WW1 Andy, might be French or American ?
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Sorry not the seamew, although I do see where you are coming from.
Do we need a clue? (Two votes gets a clue ;) )
Alex
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An egg beater/whisk?
A bit more versatile than that ;). Whew imagine flying in a plane with the nickname Plunger :o, but nope !
{-) {-) {-) - Sorry, I've been away at Llanberis! O0
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That's an English Electric Kingston, an aircraft so successful (?) that English Electric shut up shop and didn't make another for over 20 years!
Rick
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That's an English Electric Kingston, an aircraft so successful (?) that English Electric shut up shop and didn't make another for over 20 years!
Good man! well done to Rick.
Indeed they did shut up shop, but boy am I glad they started up again!! :D
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Well done , a difficult one, nice layout for a model. Next !!!!
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OK, here's something a bit different. Like most car makers, MG in Abingdon made bits of aircraft during WW2. Here is the distinctive nose section for one, but which one?
Rick
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I know they were American but it looks like a B-25 Mitchell to me.
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I believe thats an Albemarle fus .
andrew
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You believe correctly, Andrew. Over to you.
Rick
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That pic was in one of the Books of my youth - "The Wonder book of (can't remember which one)" and I remembered the caption
Have a go with this - not too difficult
andrew
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waco glider
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That is an Airspeed Horsa, troop carrying glider, as used at the capture of Pegasus bridge........ O0............Smudge
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Spot on, Smudge - your go
Andy, the Waco was a steel tube affair and considerably more angular - I think it only carried 8 trrops as well (small number onyhow)
andrew
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Before we consign Horsa to history,
I thought you might like to learn how to distinguish Hengist from Horsa
Hengist and Horsa
Hengist was coarser than Horsa,
And Horsa was awfully coarse.
Horsa drank whiskey,
Told tales that were risqué,
But Hengist was in a divorce.
Horsa grew coarser and coarser,
But Hengist was coarse all his life.
That reprobate Horsa
Drank tea from a saucer,
But Hengist ate peas with his knife.
useful, eh?
andrew
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What a mine if information and entertaiment we are {-) Here is a bit that I got pulled up for ...Waco, the aircraft company, is pronounced "walk oh" not "wake oh" as in the City name. Got that from a pilot that had 5 Waco biplanes ???. Check the vintage advertisments for the company.
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Where did you find that, Andrew?
Reminds me of:
I eat my peas with honey,
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny,
But it keeps 'em on the knife!
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Have a try at this un!!............ ;)...........Smudge
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Is it a civvy Fortress ?
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No it isn't, but you are on the right track, sort of.... ???.......Smudge
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Is it the B29 super fortress prototype
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This isn't one of the transport versions of the Tu-4, is it? That nose has a very Russian look to it.
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Yup, Tu-75. The Russians built pirate copies of the B29 designated Tu-4, and this is one of several abortive transport derivatives.
This new picture is further evidence of American efforts to prove that putting the engine in the back is not a good idea. I should know, having scared myself ***tless in a Corvair.
And, having done ships and planes, if we move on to cars next answer this one:
What were the world's first series production turbocharged road cars? And don't say BMW, whatever they may claim.
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Was some Oldsmobile wasn't it? a "proper" Turbocharger anyway...
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Jonty, who said Americans had no sense of humour? They called this one "Ascender" ("xxx"-ender giddit !) Hey ! I`ve just been moderated, "xxx" is a donkey like creature ! They`ve done it again :o Well this is just a pain in the donkey !
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Close enough, it is the Tupolev Tu-70, the Tu-75 was a derivitive with a loading ramp at the rear............ O0.................Smudge
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Right, TugCowboy. The Olds F-85 and the aforementioned Corvair.
Back to the Ascender, the Japanese, as I recall it, produced something remarkable similar - and equally unsuccessful.
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Shinden 18 , Jonty O0
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Here is a picture of the tail first fighter from Japan.....Kyushu J7W1 Shinden, completed two flights for a total of 15 minutes in the air. I think it is a nice looking bit of kit though........ 8)..............Smudge
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Here's one where the designer really hedged his bets!
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Lousy photo, but you can just about make out the prop at the back as well as the nose.
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That looks like a Dornier 335 to me, bit of a push-me-pull-you type. ???....Smudge
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Love the 335 - Pfiel. Not much could out run it in its time...which i think lasted for about 3 days ;)
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This is how the piston/jet version of the 335 could have looked if it had gone into production. :o...............Smudge
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What's this one then??........ ;)..............Smudge
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That is a Caproni-Campini CC-2 N.1
A "Thermo-jet" fighter designed in 1931... sadly it never got anywhere, imagine if the Italians had had a jet aircraft at the start of the war!! :o
Anyway.... my guess was vastly helped by the fact you left the aircraft name in the filename :D
Alex
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Its the little clues that help ;D
I remember that it flew (was reported to have flown) from Rome, Ciampino to Pisa and the average speed was rather less than if it had been powered by the piston engine alone (it had a powerful piston engine powering a compressor with fuel burned in the compressed air stream)
whose turn is it?
andrew
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Give this one a go:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/Aircraft/800.jpg)
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That looks like an F104 Starfighter, at Duxford
Brian
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Good one Alex, I see the clue I left worked as planned ??? ??? (I still can't get the hang of all this computer mumbo-jumbo.... :o :o).
The aircraft in your picture is an Hindustan HF-24 Marut, I saw one of these in the Bombay/Mumbai science park in 1988 when I visited during Outback 88 on the Ark Royal. It is a big aircraft, and was India's first indiginous jet aircraft...Smudge
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A Marut it is! massive aren't they! I saw one in Chennai about 5 years back.
Alex
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Good one Alex, I see the clue I left worked as planned ??? ??? (I still can't get the hang of all this computer mumbo-jumbo.... :o :o).
The aircraft in your picture is an Hindustan HF-24 Marut, I saw one of these in the Bombay/Mumbai science park in 1988 when I visited during Outback 88 on the Ark Royal. It is a big aircraft, and was India's first indiginous jet aircraft...Smudge
Interesting, I was in "Olwen" during that little outing. Rather odd CTP in Pusan if I recall.
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Here's one to try................. ;)..................Smudge
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A HAL Ajeet?
Alex
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Good try Alex..........but it isn't.......... :'(...........Smudge
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Don't know that one. The interesting thing about the Marut is that it was designed by Kurt Tank.
The aircraft museums in New Delhi and Bangalore are worth seeing.
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Can't see a real aeroplane at all - could it be a mirage of some description?
FLJ
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Well, well, well! First the Marut designed by Kurt Tank, and now this one by Willy Messerschmitt!
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Well, well, well! First the Marut designed by Kurt Tank, and now this one by Willy Messerschmitt!
I KNEW I recognised it! must dig my Messerchmitt book out at some point.
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That was the Spanish-Egyptian-Indian Helwan HA300. Failing any other odd German-designed devices, how about this?
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Got it jonty, I see we are making complete break from German designers. It is the Martin-Baker MB-2...... :)
In a similar line what's this one then??.. 8) 8)..............Smudge
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Re-engined Mustang. Contra-props could imply turbo-prop????? A Reno racer or Cavalier????
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Martin-Baker M.B.5
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Sorry mate it's not a re-engined Mustang, although it does have a close link to one, and turbo-prop, Phttt, wash your mouth out, this is raw piston engined power.... ::)..........Smudge
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Spit, Spit,wash wash. just thought it might be a Cavalier derivatve and altered my original answer
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Smack on the nail Richard, it is John Marlins replica Martin-Baker MB-5. powered by a Rolls-Royce Griffon 57 with two 3 bladed wooden contra-rotating propellers. He used the wing and tail structure from a P-51. He is based at Stead airport in Arizona...I believe the aircraft is for sale, Oh for a big lottery win.............. 8).................Smudge
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Dont come on here often so you might have had this one before.
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You're right - it's been on before Beriev Bartini - see reply #525
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Bum >>:-(
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Not exactly my turn, but I know a lot of you have been having a nearly illegal fix of fun in Lllllanberis
So flex the aviation grey cells on this
andrew
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Transavia PL-12 Airtruk
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Spot on! Handsome beast innit?
Over to you, Sir
andrew
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(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/Aircraft/whatisit.jpg)
A bit of a cop-out I feel effort wise but lets see how it does!
Alex
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Russian VTOL, maybe Yak 41 ???? :-\
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Not a Yak-41 I'm afraid!
Alex
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Challenging! I toyed with the YaK 41, too, and the Foxbat, but the air intakes are all wrong, and it must be a relatively low-speed plane.
Pretty sure its russian, should be a trainer or similar, but can't at the moment put my finger on it.
If AndyN is out of his waders we need his intellect on it
andrew
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Agreed but mods to engine pods suggested VTOL or STOL to me. Cant quite make out the company (or naval ? ) motif on the fin. :-\ :'( Wonder if it is from another country , maybe licence built? A brain teaser right enough !
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I promise you this is an as designed, not license built aircraft, no post development mods and its not a one off.
Do we want a clue?
Alex
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Alex,
It grieves me sorely, but yes please - a clue
andrew
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Your best chance for guessing its origin are the elevators, and the cockpit section.
However, it does have a couple of powerful links with a Scottish river!
Alex
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Alex, the clue to the Spey engine gave it away - I think its a Xian JH-7 Flying Leopard (Flounder)
Rick
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Rick,
I thought that clue might just grab it ;) not many production fighters today flying around with afterburning Spey's! (Shame :( )
Over to you sir!
Alex
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...an` me sittin` jeest a hunner yairds frae the Spey, jings ! Well done !
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OK. Here's an easy one from my trusty wartime book.
Rick
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Looks a lot like a Blackburn Skua....
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Close....but no cigar!
Rick
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Its a Blackburn Roc
Inspired by the similar Gibraltar Rock ;D
andrew
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You've got it, Andrew. A less-than-successful fighter in the "Defiant" mould, the Roc was unique in that the section of canopy between the pilot and the turret rose and fell as the turret rotated, to clear the guns and maintain streamlining.
Over to you.
Rick
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Rick,
True, Oh King! it was never going to be a fireball with 800 HP, a hydraulic turret and full naval gubbins fitted.
Didn't know about the rise-and-fall
Hows about this?
There is additional glory and points for "what happened next" and why is the prop "bent"
andrew
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ah jeesus! I won a competition about 10 years ago at my local flying club with the "Why is the prop bent" on that very picture....and I can't remember what it was for the life of me!
Thats going to annoy me all day now!
Alex
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Alex,
I, too, have a perfect memory, but increasing difficulty with recall!
It's called... er, um......oh I had it a moment ago
andrew
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It has a Fairey winged logo on the fin.
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The aircraft is the Fantome (Can't get the accent! sorry) but I still can't remember what the reason is for the "bent" illusion from the prop.
I remember it had a Spanish engine but thats as far as the memory goes at the moment.
Alex
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Fantome it is, made by Avions Fairey in Belgium.
It had a splendid Hispano V12 engine with a moteur-cannon, I believe, between the banks
But isn't it beautiful? ;D ;D
I have a nice peanut plan (13 inch span) and have doubled it up to make a 26 inch parkflyer - its on the list!
Any takers on the sub-questions?
over to you, Aex
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The Fantome is, in my humble opinion, the most beautiful biplane ever to be made.
Sorry Andrew I still can't recall what helped me win that competition all those years ago!
Here's the next one.
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn399/netherways/Aircraft/CRNTT.jpg)
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That is a Fiat ( Fix it again Tony) CR-42 Falco standard Italian fighter at the outbreak of World War Two. There is a very nice example in the RAF Museum at Hendon, well worth a visit..... even for non sideways walkers....... ::)..............Smudge
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FIAT CR.42
Bum , just to late >>:-(
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Sorry Dicky, Swordfish was in there first :)
Alex
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Sorry Richard, just tipped you to the post, have a try at this one....... O0...............Smudge
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Hawker Sea Fury FB.11
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Yeah, you got it cowboy, guess that was too easy........... :(................Smudge
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here we go....
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The bent prop: if the engine was running then the photograph was taken with a focal plane shutter. This type of shutter moves from one side to the other as opposed to the iris type which opens and closes from the centre . Any moving object will be distorted as the focal plane shutter moves with the object or in opposite direction against the direction of travel of the subject. Early 35mm cameras used this type for higher shutter speeds than possible with diaphram/iris types. This is most obvious on photographs of racing cars that seem to have oval wheels in some shots.
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Not to unknown ;)
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Sado-Masochist 69, innit?
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Near... O0
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OK, to be serious (for once) an SM79.
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Yes :)
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What happened to TugCowboy's? Thought at first it might be a Tornado or Seafang, but Russian maybe?
And now for something completely different...
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And now for something completely different...
Looks french to me... a Potez???
Or Petljakow???
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seeing as mine has been overlooked I'll just post the answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_I-250_(N)
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Aha! So I was on the right track.
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Don't be fooled by those fin stripes, Jan, and the undersurface is probably yellow.
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Made by a firm better known for optical instruments and bearing the silliest name ever given to an aircraft.
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That looks like the Reid & Sigrist RS-3 Bobsleigh, I think there may be one still in use as a movie camera aircraft........... ???.................Smudge
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Me think your right...
Try a new one ;)
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Excellent choice! Its a Miles M.20
Sadly never given a chance to prove itself, if the Battle of Britain had been a year later I think this would have been the new "Hurricane" as it were.
Alex
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Could you tell me if the Miles M20 had a folding u/c, it looks like it has wheel spats.
Colin
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Sinjon,
Yes the M.20 had a fixed undercarriage. It was designed to be a very cheap, easy to fix and hardy fighter to replace the Hawker Hurricane.
It even had no hydraulic systems to keep costs down and to avoid problems caused by a hit hydraulic reservoir.
Alex
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She was found to be to slow and she was 800 - 1000 Kg more heavier as the Bf 109 or Spitfire.
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You were very close, swordfish. It's actually the RS1, known for unfathomable reasons as the Snargasher.
The M20 wasn't the only stopgap fighter proposed in 1940. Some Miles Master trainers were actually converted with six machine guns, but never used in combat.
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And now to something german ;)
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Focke-Wulf TA152 OR Fw-190D ?
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Damn... :embarrassed:
Ta-152
That was to easy :angel:
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This ones quite easy, so to make it harder I want Manufacturer, Model, Sub Model, and an interesting fact O0
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/Dscn1543.jpg)
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Rick,
True, Oh King! it was never going to be a fireball with 800 HP, a hydraulic turret and full naval gubbins fitted.
Didn't know about the rise-and-fall
Hows about this?
There is additional glory and points for "what happened next" and why is the prop "bent"
andrew
Focal Plane shutter? Shutter passes sideways and gives a bent effect to fast objects.
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See post #774 ;)
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Anyone still playing this game?
How about this one ( as we can't guess Andy's plane!).......
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I've given up on Andy's plane - he wins!
I blieve its a Mudry CAP something, but can't find either the colour or the model - its not one of the SERIOUS aerobats as it has the huge thick wings (originally from the Piel Emeraude, I think)
Andy - give us a glue or wear your crown with pride - or both
andrew
Martin - that's a flying shoe
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HAHAHAHA I WIN....
It was a CAP 20 LS200....
Taken at Vichy last year.
Andy (basking in the glory) O0
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Andy
The crown goes well with your waders ;D
andrew
Oh, and the flying Boot is a B&V 131 - prob a C-1
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Close enough Andrew, actually a Blohm und Voss BV 138.
http://home.swipnet.se/our_stuff/Planes/BV138.htm
(http://home.swipnet.se/our_stuff/Planes/BV138.htm)
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Thanks Martin, its this lysdexia I ahve
Anyone for twinning?
andrew
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Heinkel He111 Zwilling
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Spot on, King Andy
Your punt
andrew
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I think someone else should have a go, I'll only win again...
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Hope this is not to easy.... ::)
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Slingsby Gull?
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Slingsby T.6 Kirby Kite. Single-seat sailplane derived from Grunau Baby design, the Slingsby T.6 Kirby Kite was first flown August 1935. Twenty-five built, including one with non-metallic control system, for early RAF radar experiments. Fifteen impressed for Central Landing Establishment in 1940 for early glider pilot training.