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Title: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 20, 2008, 01:18:18 PM
Dear Mayhemmers,

Does anyone know if there are, or have been, any kits of European passenger ferries (as opposed to cruise liners) suitable for RC? This seems to be an area of the hobby which is not well covered and there are some very attractive prototype examples out there...

Cheers
polobeer  :angel:
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 20, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
None that come to mind. I think the problem is that any scale model of this type of vessel would be inclined to be top heavy and susceptible to wind and therefore difficult to make a practical working model of.

I have seen some scratch built examples but not many of them.

A couple to whet your appetite that I took recently anyway!

Colin

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 20, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Cheers for the information Colin and the superb photos! Either of these ships would make fantastic models don't you think? Perhaps a plastic kit manufacturer might offer one in the future?

All the best
Simon  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 20, 2008, 02:39:07 PM
Thinking about it, Deans Marine make a few ferry/merchant vessels ("Celastine", MV "Muirneag" and the "Maersk Anglia") and Metcalf Mouldings make the "Graemsey" ferry/supply vessel. However, none of these are quite what I had in mind. The photos of the ferries above (that you took Colin) are exactly what I was referring to.

Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 20, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
Having just carried out some research on the Internet I found out that Airfix used to make a plastic kit of the Townsend "Free Enterprise" car ferry in 1/600 scale. Does anyone have one of these kits (unmade) that they might like to sell?

Simon  ::)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 20, 2008, 04:04:02 PM
The Airfix Free Enterprise was tiny, you could never make a working model from it.

In the ferry terminal at Ouistreham there is a full hull model of Brittany Ferries' Mont St Michel. It's quite an eye opener to see just how little underwater body there is to hold the rest of the ship up! To get a stable working model you would have to build the upperworks so light that they would have very little strength - and then you would still have the windage problem. Wind force on a model is disproportionately high compared to the full size ship - and it isn't insignificant at 1:1 scale to start with!

The first model below is of Brittany Ferries' "Bretagne" which I saw at Brighton last year. It seemed to handle well (indoors!) but i don't know if the hull was made deeper to make it more stable. It also had several working features. The P&O Pride of Kent model I saw at Chantry club last year was quite big and certainly seemed to cope very well with the open lake.

The other two pics are Mont St Michel and Normandie belonging to Brittany Ferries.

Colin
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 20, 2008, 05:22:26 PM
Many thanks again Colin for all the info and the photos (very nice models).

All the best
Simon  :)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on July 20, 2008, 10:22:56 PM
This is interesting, why hasn't any manufacturer picked up this one? The stability problem could be solved, Deans have there ropax ferries and I believe they sail OK.( BTW, are there any pictures of the model of m/v Muirneag sailing?) There are many nice modern ferries that would turn into lovely models. Here are some pictures of some older ones with a little history as well.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 20, 2008, 10:41:05 PM
Deans pick their prototypes very carefully to ensure that they will give an adequate sailing performance. Manufacturers like to play safe and choose prototypes which will make stable models. That is why workboats and tugs are so popular. It would take a very cack handed modeller to build an unstable tug! Also, if you look at the kit manufacturers ranges you will see that they are overwhelmingly biased in favour of relatively small full size prototypes. Deans are an exception in this respect.

The big Airfix Queeen Mary 2 has been successfully converted to R/C but there are stability issues. I have a partially completed one which I'm hoping will make a practical model but I'm considereing attaching lead sheet to the bottom of the hull externally.

It would be nice to see more larger prototypes of merchant ships as kits but I suspect it's not going to happen.

But you can always scratch build!

Colin
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 21, 2008, 09:50:29 AM
hi there .
RC ferry's is a subject i done a fair bit of looking in to. There is stuff out the but not much. Most of what you see is scratch built and most of that from non model ship plans.

I do have deans Celestine and its a lovely boat . if you have any questions i would happy to give you answers.
here what i have found thats available on morden ish cross channel ferry's.

http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/uebersicht.htm
there is a plane of the Sealink ST Columba done by nexus plans {sorry cant find a link}

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 10:20:41 AM
Cheers fellas (cos918, hama and Colin) for the extra info, photos and website about ferries! It's good to hear that others think that these vessels would make interesting RC models. There is another RO RO ferry kit available from IMEX - the "Rouen", but again it is not like the ones shown in your photos hama! Keep the info coming gents...

All the best
Simon  ;)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
Hello cos918,

I've been looking more closely at the web link you gave and there are some very nice model boats available there (not just passenger ships). Have you ordered from this German company before? Is it easy to obtain their products?

All the best
Simon  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 21, 2008, 10:45:47 AM
hi there no i have not ordered from him. The boat i like he does is the robin hood ferry at 1:100. But have you seen the price . mmm that hell of a lot of cash. The ferry i want to do one day is the Spirit of free Enterprise  at 1:100. Of course she will be done in her best livery . Townsend Thorsen. But then there this superfast ferry that taken my fancy.


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 21, 2008, 10:58:15 AM

There is the Robbe HANSEATIC...... don't know if that fits the bill.

(http://www.amodelworld.co.uk/images/P1001_1-1177.jpg)

http://www.amodelworld.co.uk/ (http://www.amodelworld.co.uk/)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Welsh_Druid on July 21, 2008, 11:17:44 AM


I've been looking more closely at the web link you gave and there are some very nice model boats available there (not just passenger ships). Have you ordered from this German company before? Is it easy to obtain their products?

All the best
Simon  :o
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

Ordering from Steinhagen can be slightly problematic. He does not respond to emails written in English. I had to enlist the help of Jorge (White Ensign) who carried out an email correspondence  with Steinhagen and ordered what I wanted on my behalf.  Of course if you can write in German yourself - then no problem.  He will quote the price including delivery in euros and you have to send the money by bank transfer to his account. (no credit card facilities).  Once you have sent the money everything goes very quickly and smoothly with quick delivery. Excellent quality mouldings and plans (scaled full size layout - NOT model construction plans ) but you are on your own building the model from the hull upwards.

Don B.

With the exchange rate for the euro dropping so rapidly  though I doubt  whether I would buy now.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
Hello Martin and cos918,

Cost is a problem as always; the Robbe MS "Hanseatic" is a fantastic looking model but well out of my league, price wise, sadly. Something like this a bit smaller maybe, and less expensive would be ideal.

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 11:31:02 AM
Cheers for the info Don B (Welsh_Druid)! Yes, with the weaker Pound it is not a good time to buy abroad  >:(

All the best
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: DickyD on July 21, 2008, 11:45:28 AM
Deans Marine do a few merchant ships.  O0

http://www.deansmarine.co.uk/html/merchant_ships.html
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 21, 2008, 08:40:44 PM
there was this kit? on ebay a while a go. I have seen one on there since this one.

john

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230265185558&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 21, 2008, 08:52:06 PM

And this one! -  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170236663325&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170236663325&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 09:40:51 PM
Hello Martin and cos918,

Excellent research there! The old Graupner kit looked very interesting (but as rare as Hens teeth I would imagine). Thanks for posting the links.

All the best
Simon  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 21, 2008, 09:45:09 PM
Hello DickyD,

Thanks for posting the link to Deans Marine kits.

All the best
Simon  ;)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on July 21, 2008, 11:31:58 PM
Hey, look what I found!  :)Probably a bit expensive I guess. www.modellbauwerft.com (http://www.modellbauwerft.com) Look under "Fähren"

Cheers, Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 22, 2008, 09:03:20 AM
Hello hama,

Well found!  :D These German kits (which they appear to be, rather than just hulls with plans) look excellent and not just the two ferries; the merchant ships, etc look very nice too. It would be worth sending an email to the company to find out how much the kits are (with postage to the UK). The two ferry kits are the ones in the photos that cos918 and Colin Bishop posted!

All the best
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 22, 2008, 09:21:15 AM
Hello again hama!

I have just sent off an email to the company in Germany to enquire about the prices of the two ferry kits (and hopefully I might get a pricelist for all the other kits as well). I'll post the details if I get anything.

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 22, 2008, 06:14:44 PM
hi there . Top find hama thanks.
Simon if you get the price can you let me know much the super fast ferry would be i might be very intrested.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 22, 2008, 06:19:00 PM
Hello John,

I'll definitely do that as soon as I hear.

All the best
Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on July 24, 2008, 09:08:29 PM
Hello polobeer and cos918!
The pleasure is all mine, hope you find something interesting and PLEASE let us all know what you find.
Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 31, 2008, 10:34:43 PM
hi Simon. Have you heard back from that Guy in Germany on how much the ferry's cost.


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 01, 2008, 12:02:27 AM
Hello John and hama,

I've heard zilch from the dealer in Germany, so I think it's unlikely that I  will now (sadly).

All the best
Simon  >:(
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 01, 2008, 06:03:53 AM
hi Simon there might be a reason for that.

1 He is on Summer holidays.
2 He only does email in German
Did you wright to him in English or German.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 01, 2008, 08:18:53 AM
Hello John,

Thanks for your message. Yes you're right, and I did write in English. However, I have successfully ordered in English and purchased other models from German suppliers in the past. Is there someone on the forum who speaks German who could enquire on our behalf about the available ferry kits and prices from this supplier?

Cheers Simon!  ???
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on August 01, 2008, 07:16:46 PM
You could try an online translater...

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

I usually translate my correspondance, then translate it back to english to see if I said anything weird. ???
Then change out different words to see if I can't get it to translate back to english well.

If you run across a model of the new LNG ferries in the Netherlands, let me know.
The Bergensfjord class is my next ferry,... if I ever get to it.  ::)

.
.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 01, 2008, 09:21:32 PM
Hello Umi Ryuzuki,

Many thanks for your message. I could definitely try that. And, yes, I'll let you know if I come across this ferry!

All the best
Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 05, 2008, 08:46:21 PM
Hello Simon,

read this and will try to get him on the phone tomorrow. For I live in Germany should be no problem to talk to him and ask about prices for the two ferries.

b.r.  Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 05, 2008, 09:30:04 PM
hi Simon here that Japanese ferry on ebay. COM

john

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arii-1-500-Japanese-Sunflower-car-ferry_W0QQitemZ220263229844QQihZ012QQcategoryZ4248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 06, 2008, 07:17:14 PM
Hi,

have been in contact with owner of that shop. Prices are as follows:

Kronprins Frederik  EUR 950,--  +  EUR 75,-- for plans if nessessary
Superfast              EUR 1100,-- + EUR 75,-- for plans  --  "--

kit as stated in the shop !

b.r.  Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 06, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
hi Sven Thank you for taking the time to ask , I very much appreciate you asking for us. I was not ready for that much of a big price and with the £ being weak against the Euro doesn't help. IL have to think foe awhile then save for ages .

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 07, 2008, 11:00:52 AM
hello John,

nice prices haven't they ?  I was surprised too, but if you have a look to other comp. in Germany they are nearly the same.

For the Superfast-ferry you can try to ask the office in Rostock if they can send you plans or what ever to build up a model of one of their ferries. Try to get contact to Mr. Jens Berg, we worked both for Finnjet in earlier days. Maybe he is willing to help.

good luck    Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 07, 2008, 01:31:42 PM
Hello John and Sven!

Many thanks for your help and recent information about the German ferry kits. Yes, they are certainly expensive! Too much for me anyway sadly. It was kind of you Sven to make contact with the shop for us; and many thanks John for your email about the kit prices. If anyone decides to buy one of the kits and builds it let us know!

All the best
Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 07, 2008, 07:10:09 PM
just been on germanys ebay. There a few nice bits but no ferrys that i could see. Any way Been google and using germany words found a few bits, With some time and luck i am sure some else will turn up. Its try to work out what word to use in german is the hard bit.  JOHN
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 08, 2008, 09:55:14 AM
some guys took papermodels and used it as plan for rc-working models. Think about it.

Have you been on this site ?    http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/   they offer some nice modern ferries. Prices are not shown yet but I believe they will answer in english too.

on this   http://www.g-schmidt.com/   you can find nice models too. Prices you can download as pdf.  this one are not so expensive.

b.r.  Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 08, 2008, 07:55:56 PM
hi Sven i have seen the first web site .The ferry on there is about 900 euro when you get all the bit he offers.
the second site i have never seen ,so thank you for find these sites for us ,grest help.

john

found these.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646087

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v226/paularai/
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 08, 2008, 09:39:44 PM
Good stuff there john! If you ever discover a moderately priced European ferry kit suitable for RC let us know!

All the best
Simon  ::)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 08, 2008, 10:13:40 PM
hi Simon There a revell 1:400 kit of the ferry Finnjet. She is 213m long so the model is about 53cms long so RC is possible. Now here the bad bit,they are as rare as hen teeth, i been after one for awhile . The fetch TOP TOP dollar on ebay good luck .

Simon is a kit you are after or would you go down the hull+plans or full scratch build root.



john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 08, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
Hello John,

I would prefer a kit, but would consider a hull and plans depending on the prototype.

All the best
Simon  :D
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2008, 09:11:50 AM
hi Simon
.Your like me,i would perfer a kit. After looking at all the thread/links (thanks Sven) I have found out there is stuff out there put it costs . Deans ferry go for £300 to £700 and those German kits are near the €1000 mark,even if i had the money thats a lot to spend on a kit. That leaves plastic kit and the only one i can think of is rare as.

On the scratch build/hull route I have not had much luck but i thing i have found some thing. If you like finnjet go to the RC link i sent i put on the forum yesterday at 7.55pm. On there ,read end to end and in thread 27 from paularai he say ,he still has the molds for finnjet and might be able to make another hull.also on there ,there a guy called pekka and from what i can work out he works for SILJA LINE ferry's .HE makes comments on he might be able to get plans for finnjet +other ferry's (Baltic only i think). It would be worth keeping this guy as a contact.
Myself I am finishing my mv Celestine ferry and X2 1:450 QE2 models. Then i think i will ask paularai if he still can make finnjet hull as she is one hell of a ferry and still unbeaten in speed +33knots .

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2008, 11:40:18 AM
Morning John!

That could be a possibility. For me what would be perfect would be a kit/scratch built model of one of our "own" lines, e.g. Stena or Caledonian Macbrayne (I know Deans Marine do one for the latter company but I would prefer a more traditional looking Ferry than this one). Ferries are interesting vessels and it is a shame that they are not widely available as kits; after all for many people it is probably the only ship they will ever travel on. My trips on ferries have left a lasting affect on me and it was travelling on these that started my interest in model RC boats!

All the best
Simon  ::)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2008, 01:04:42 PM
would you consider Caledonian Mac Brayne ferry BUTE

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2008, 04:45:22 PM
Hello John,

I've not seen this ferry. Have you got any photos I could see? Is there a model of it?

All the best
Simon  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2008, 05:13:38 PM
hi Simon . there a kit sort of. It a 1:250 card kit. I was thinking you could get one there on ebay for less that a teener ,then that will give you some templates sort of. You would really still want planes for her. have a think and let me know what you think. The problem is still the same it either cost or the availability of planes for scratch build. Found this on the mayhem web site but know no more see link.

john

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/irmurray/pictures/bute1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/irmurray/ferries2.asp&h=480&w=640&sz=36&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=1gB4Zv11bAk-GM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcaledonian%2Bmacbrayne%2Bbute%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DYNW%26sa%3DN

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Modellers/Luke/1ndex.htm
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2008, 05:15:40 PM
here the card kit note the 9V bat for size com each sheet is A4

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
Cheers for all the info and photos John. It's certainly worth considering as a way around the problem. Are you tempted to have a go at this ferry in the way that you suggest? It would certainly make an interesting model. The panoramic photo of the the "Bute" in your link above is superb! Very good indeed! Are these kits readily available? Keep us posted.

All the best
Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2008, 10:45:40 PM
Hi Simon . I had a quick look on ebay and cant see one at the moment. IL try tomrow to send you the guy address who had the kits. If you don't get a pm off me tomrow it might not be for a few  weeks as work is sending me to china. I saw this kit on ebay and it was cheep so i thought IL have and put it on a shelf one day. It a nice boat but not one for me to make up to RC. I like more your bigger ferry's. That super fast VIII from Germany really caught my eye but at €1175 to much. For that amount you could do a all in all singing and dancing scratch built ferry. I don't feel i yet have the skills to make my own fiber glass hull yet. So on that not i am toying with the idea of finnjet.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2008, 10:57:46 PM
Cheers John! Hope everything goes well in China...

All the best
Simon  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: barriew on August 10, 2008, 09:53:06 AM
Simon

If you want card models, Google 'Marcle Models' - they are the main UK stockists for all card models, including the Bute. I tried to make this but it didn't turn out too well. Not a fault of the model, but of my lack of skill :(

Barrie
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 10, 2008, 11:54:29 AM
Hi,
what's about this one      http://www.finnlines.fi/uploads/small_finnhansa3_FL(2).jpg

b.r.  Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 10, 2008, 11:55:20 AM
Good idea Barrie. Sorry about your model!  :'(

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 10, 2008, 11:57:20 AM
Hello Sven! The picture is too small to really see properly! Many thanks though.

All the best
Simon  O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 10, 2008, 12:30:33 PM
name of the ship is Finnhansa try out google you can find some more piucs of her.

Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 10, 2008, 02:48:57 PM
is it this one

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ferry-site.dk/picture/ferry/9010151a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php%3Fid%3D9010151%26lang%3Den&h=397&w=760&sz=60&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=Ec_wRS356kQnNM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=142&prev=/images%3Fq%3DFinnhansa%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 10, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
 O0 O0 O0  yes it is   O0 O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 10, 2008, 07:54:44 PM
hi Sven is there a kit or hull for this boat.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on August 10, 2008, 09:48:22 PM
no kit !  >>:-(  no hull !  >>:-(  but deckplan. A real challenge for shipbuilders. O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 15, 2008, 10:50:39 PM
Hello fellas!

Some of the best models of ferries (RC and static) can be found on the "Ships Nostalgia" website. In the model gallery there are lots of photos of some very nice prototypes, including a brilliant Brittany Ferries model (can't remember its name). Have a look if you dare! It will make you want to give up boat modelling (no, only joking!)...

All the best
Simon  :P
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Tom_DK on August 17, 2008, 10:04:03 AM
A german supplier is manufacturing several different passenger ferry kits for RC, I have seen them several times on exhibitions.

http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/
(Click on "Produkte")

BR,
Tom
-----sorry i see now that the link was already posted -----
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 06, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
I  was at Deans Marine today - I wonder if this would be of use?
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on September 06, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
Very nice Martin! Yes there could be some potential there, but it is a very nice model in its own right. Just out of interest, is this a Deans kit? Personally I'm hoping for a more modern design like one of the Stena line ferries to Ireland; here's hoping...

Cheers
Simon  ::)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 06, 2008, 07:34:19 PM

I'm sure it is but you'll need to check with Ron - http://www.deansmarine.co.uk/ (http://www.deansmarine.co.uk/)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on September 06, 2008, 08:32:20 PM
Thanks for the info!

Cheers
Simon  ;)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Sven on September 14, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
hello,

anyone ever been on this page ?  www.hobbyruten.com   ???   nice ferries and nice video too.

b.r.  Sven
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Channel on September 15, 2008, 12:39:04 PM
I am interested in a model of a Incat Wave Piercing Catamaran but sadly the only commercially available one to my knowledge was Graupner's Condor 9 sadly now out of production . . . if anyone know of one for sale please let me know!

Chris
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on September 21, 2008, 12:10:15 AM
Here's something of interest for any ferry modellers:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEALINK-FERRY-full-size-plans-building-instructions_W0QQitemZ320298196378QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320298196378&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 ::)

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Welsh_Druid on October 15, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
Earlier in this thread reference was made to the products of Steinhagen and I replied.

I have now reached the stage where my model of the cruise ship "Arkona"  from a hull by this manufacturer has been in the water. Its not yet finished in all details but the attached photo shows it on its maiden voyage last Sunday.

Don B.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 15, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
very nice don. :-)) Can i ask you on how you found the quality of the kit and the value for money. The reason i ask , is i look at the robin hood  ferry. From the photos the mouldings looked good  but the price was steep € 786.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 15, 2008, 05:28:50 PM
The ships is now named Astoria I beleve. Saw her in Copenhagen in May:
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Welsh_Druid on October 15, 2008, 05:45:39 PM
very nice don. :-)) Can i ask you on how you found the quality of the kit and the value for money. The reason i ask , is i look at the robin hood  ferry. From the photos the mouldings looked good  but the price was steep € 786.

john

Hi John

It was not a kit as such but a hull and some optional laser cut  panels for the sides, bridge and funnels. i.e. all the areas which had the windows and doors cut out.

The GRP hull is very good but much of it had to be cut away and replaced with the laser cut styrene panels. Other than that you are on your own in providing styrene sheet both white and transparent for the glazing. The plans are not modelling plans but scale layouts of all the hull and decks. Well executed but tricky to interpret without the optional set of photos (and I still needed to download other photos from the internet in her various incarnations as  "Astor" - "Arkona" - "Astoria").

At the current rate of exchange to the euro I would not have purchased - I am not that rich  {:-{

If there is interest I could post a photo construction thread.

Don B.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 15, 2008, 05:52:52 PM
hi don thanks for the reply. Your answer was what i suspected about his kits.   A build thread would be great if you had the time



john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 15, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
Quote
If there is interest I could post a photo construction thread.

Yes please!  :-)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on October 15, 2008, 08:16:09 PM
Oh yes please Welsh Druid, I too have been watching their site and dreamt of the fantastic models there. I thought the Bremen seemed a nice size and reasonable prized, but as always too many dreams, not enough money. So, a build log would be very appreciated!
BTW, your model looks fantastic!!
Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 15, 2008, 09:48:43 PM
Hello everyone!

Here are some recent sequence photos taken in the port of Barcelona of the ferry "Isla de Botafoc" arriving from some unknown destination (possibly one of the Spanish islands). It was impressive watching the bow thrusters of the ferry in action, and it certainly needed them because the docking area was quite small. The quality of the photos is not brilliant because it was very overcast and getting dark.

Cheers
Simon  %)

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 15, 2008, 09:56:59 PM
hi simon very nice here a photo of her back in the good old days of BR SEALINK  at the st christopher

john

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/saintsxx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/doversaints.html&h=750&w=638&sz=148&hl=en&start=13&um=1&usg=__x5KceQ0T9adOWyc3r3Y79o9ZBps=&tbnid=n-V0kp-EhG3xnM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsealink%2Bst%2Bchristopher%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN


Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 15, 2008, 10:06:39 PM
Earlier in this thread reference was made to the products of Steinhagen and I replied.

I have now reached the stage where my model of the cruise ship "Arkona"  from a hull by this manufacturer has been in the water. Its not yet finished in all details but the attached photo shows it on its maiden voyage last Sunday.

Don B.

Very nice Don! I'm green with envy; I'd love to get my hands on a built/part built ferry model, as time and space problems prevent me from building one at the moment. I did once eye up the excellent Robbe Hanseatic kit as a compromise (as it is not a ferry as such) but it is way out of my financial league sadly.  >>(

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 15, 2008, 10:12:21 PM
hi simon very nice here a photo of her back in the good old days of BR SEALINK  at the st christopher

john

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/saintsxx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/doversaints.html&h=750&w=638&sz=148&hl=en&start=13&um=1&usg=__x5KceQ0T9adOWyc3r3Y79o9ZBps=&tbnid=n-V0kp-EhG3xnM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsealink%2Bst%2Bchristopher%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN


Excellent John! Great info and very nostalgic. I remember the British Rail Sealink ferries from Weymouth to the Channel Islands and France very well. I used to live in Dorset and visits to Weymouth were quite frequent. How sad it is that they've gone from there...

Cheers
Simon  {:-{



Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: barryfoote on October 16, 2008, 08:57:29 AM
Here are some recent sequence photos taken in the port of Barcelona of the ferry "Isla de Botafoc" arriving from some unknown destination (possibly one of the Spanish islands).

Simon,

You are quite right. The Isla de Botafoc does run between Barcelona and several of the Balearic Islands..

Barry
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 16, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
Thanks for the info Barry!

Cheers
Simon  :-)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 16, 2008, 10:30:20 PM
hi Simon here a diffrent photo. It shows the pride of dover in her 1ST livery. By the time the pride of Calais came in to service she was painted in to P/O livery. So the pride of dover was the last boat ever built for towsend thorsen .


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 16, 2008, 10:41:51 PM
hi simon very nice here a photo of her back in the good old days of BR SEALINK  at the st christopher

john

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/saintsxx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hhvferry.com/doversaints.html&h=750&w=638&sz=148&hl=en&start=13&um=1&usg=__x5KceQ0T9adOWyc3r3Y79o9ZBps=&tbnid=n-V0kp-EhG3xnM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsealink%2Bst%2Bchristopher%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN




Hello John!

Very nice photo of the Townsend ferry.

It took me a while to realise that the "Isla de Botofoc" in my photos was in fact the old BR Sealink Ferry "St.Christopher"! I thought there was a close resemblance except that the Spanish owned ferry has had its aft deck lengthened.

Simon  %)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 16, 2008, 10:45:20 PM
hi simon see if you can work out who this old girl was

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 16, 2008, 11:08:43 PM
One of the old Townsend ferries?  Don't know which one though... ::)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 17, 2008, 05:38:42 AM
hi there she was 1st spirit of free enterprise then she became the pride of Kent were she was increased in length.

i must say i do miss the old towsend thoresen boats with there bright red hull. they seamed to add a bit of colour .


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 18, 2008, 07:43:27 AM

The Steinhagen seems to be up and running now:  http://www.steinhagen-modelltechnik.de/

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 22, 2008, 06:56:21 PM
Hi simon sorry for the short notice put just found this 5 min a go

john

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/rc-river-ferry-vintage_W0QQitemZ250311721322QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250311721322&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ebayphotohosting
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 16, 2008, 05:55:01 AM
On Ebay - Pacific Princess -Item number: 280294868987   

(http://i11.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/24/cd/0242_1.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280294868987&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D%2B280294868987%26fvi%3D1 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280294868987&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D%2B280294868987%26fvi%3D1)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Paularai on December 20, 2008, 08:42:34 PM
hi Simon There a revell 1:400 kit of the ferry Finnjet. She is 213m long so the model is about 53cms long so RC is possible. Now here the bad bit,they are as rare as hen teeth, i been after one for awhile . The fetch TOP TOP dollar on ebay good luck .

Simon is a kit you are after or would you go down the hull+plans or full scratch build root.



john

Just to say Revell are re releasing Finnjet in Jan 09 see www.finnjet.com if yu want one, i believe there about euro 22
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Christian on March 05, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
Dear Mayhemmers,

Does anyone know if there are, or have been, any kits of European passenger ferries (as opposed to cruise liners) suitable for RC? This seems to be an area of the hobby which is not well covered and there are some very attractive prototype examples out there...

Cheers
polobeer  :angel:
[Dear polobear,
I bought a hull and plans (scale 1:100) of the european passenger and car ferry "Prinz Oberon" from Modellbau Günther Schmidt in Germany ten years ago. I don´t know whether or not it is still available. I attached a photo of the half completed modell.]
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on March 05, 2009, 07:26:40 PM
I'd love one of those, looks really nice! Please show us more if you can and tell a little about your beautiful model.
Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Christian on March 11, 2009, 05:05:58 PM

[Hello hama,
I bought the hull and the plans (1:100) 10 years ago for aprox. 200€. The model is not shown in the catalogue of Modellbau Schmitt, but it wasn´t shown 10 years ago when I bought it. Modellbau Schmitt builds models for yards and shipping companies but sells some of their models to modellers, too. I just asked the company whether or not they sell a modell of a ferry. I can tell you some expereiences I have made with the modell.

1. It is a lot of work, just think of the many many windows to cut out etc.
2. I would highly recomend to control all the engines independently (2 main engines and bow thruster) as the model drifts sidewards a lot in even light winds. That is not a problem if you go fast with the modell, but berthing in a decent way without the independent control of the engines would just be impossilble.
3. Never put such a modell out in high winds. I did it once. The model caught wind on its beam an refused to turn around again even with full ahead on both engines and the rudder hard to port. It driftet across the whole pond with water pouring in through the windows due to the big heel angle. It is a fair whether modell.
4. You have to save weight in the superstructur to avoid the above mentioned big heel angles in high winds

I like to steer the vessel a lot because of the above mentioned steering behaviour. It is never booring.

Christian]
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on March 11, 2009, 07:41:26 PM
Hi Christian!
Thanks a lot for the information. That is really a very nice model you built, thanks for showing this beauty.
Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Christian on March 15, 2009, 08:21:48 PM
Hi Christian!
Thanks a lot for the information. That is really a very nice model you built, thanks for showing this beauty.
Hama.
[Hello Hama,

there is a modell kit (1:100) of the Kong Harald by "PK Modell" (I think it is a norwegian company). I don not know the price of the kit. The Kong Harald is a ship of the norwegian coastal service operated by Hurtigruten. I don´t know whether or not you can call this vessel a ferry. It has a small garage. I attached a photo I found in the net. I think the same modell is (or was) also offered by the company "Krick", but I am not sure. Christian]

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Paularai on April 15, 2009, 09:04:36 PM
What a lovely model, we need a ferry meet! anyone interested?
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on April 15, 2009, 11:00:06 PM
Hi paul
I up for a meet. Once I get Celestine back on the water il be up for a meet of fellow ferry modellers .

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Paularai on April 28, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
Just seen these simple ferry plans on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sealink-ferry-VORTIGEN-full-size-model-plans_W0QQitemZ370192768278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item370192768278&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferry-PIONEER-model-plans_W0QQitemZ370192723611QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item370192723611&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on April 28, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
there was also the Stena Atlantica,Stena Nautica, Stena Challenger, Superfast XI,
As follows in order as above..

Stena Atlantica/MV Atlantica
(http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/8898/OLATL.jpg)

Stena Nautica/MV Nautica
(http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Harbor/2971/NEWNAT.jpg)

Stena Challenger .. (MV Lief ERICKSON)
(http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_challenger_1991_6.jpg)

Superfast XI ... MV Atlantic Vision

(http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/atlantic_vision_2002_2.jpg)


A link to other ship of Europe that also served with Marine Atlantic ..

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/cnma.htm
In case livery is your thing ..
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on April 29, 2009, 05:00:08 PM
Im guessing ...but the larger a ferry model is the more stallabil it would be ..right?
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on May 06, 2009, 10:36:14 PM
Im guessing ...but the larger a ferry model is the more stallabil it would be ..right?

In theory yes s there's more hull in the water. But it dosent all ways work out like that. Saying that never had any stability problems with my ferry so far.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Roberto To on May 10, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
there was also the Stena Atlantica,Stena Nautica, Stena Challenger, Superfast XI


where?

Robert.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on May 11, 2009, 11:19:01 PM
there was also the Stena Atlantica,Stena Nautica, Stena Challenger, Superfast XI


where?

Robert.

Not as model's but as ships that made there way into the European market only to be sold or open lease ...just different liveries
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Roberto To on May 12, 2009, 10:48:34 AM
ahhh OK! :-))

I've understood that you have said that there was the plans of those ship for sale on the web... :embarrassed:

I'm so interested to Stena Normandica 1974 (or her three sisters) plans... %)

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_normandica_1974.htm

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_atlantica_1975.htm

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_nautica_1974.htm

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_nordica_1975.htm

Rgards.

Roberto.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Paularai on May 15, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Are we saying that there are plans for the Stena Normandia etc? would love to build her, travelled on her many times between 85 - 90 Fishguard - Rosslaire.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on July 12, 2009, 08:37:32 PM
My earliest memories of my childhood are on the stern of the Nautica, Atlantica.. and i did get on the Nordica...leaving port in Port aux Basques..watching them load unload ..waving to tourist ..not to mention the rough weather ...Say what you like those ship's are tough and solid ....fine sailing vessel's..

Marine Atlantic switched them out for more speed ,ice breaking capability ,passenger and vehicle volume..

They were good ship's took everything the North Atlantic could throw at them ..many times they came into either Sydney or Port aux Basques  after a storm ..more fuel and dishes ..turn and go again ....

(http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/marine_atlantica_1975_2.jpg)

The Atlantica leaving Port aux Basques harbour
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 29, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
Has anyone had a go at converting the Revell Finnjet ferry 1/400 scale kit to radio control? This would make a very nice model - apologies if this has already been covered!

Simon   :P
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 29, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
Hi Simon I have just started to do Finnjet. got her propshaft in and now I am working on her rudders.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 29, 2009, 08:30:57 PM
Hello John,

Are you writing a build thread on your Finnjet? If not I'd be very interested to hear how you are converting it to RC and what components you're using. I am sorely tempted to have a go as well...

Cheers
Simon  %)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on July 29, 2009, 10:32:16 PM
Hi Simon .I have started a build thread on Finnjetweb forum http://www.finnjetweb.com/ I could do a thread on hear if people want it. I have only just started her . The prop shaft's are made to look like the real one. I am doing her in her 1986 livery. It going to be a slow build due to building a new kitchen .
john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 29, 2009, 10:42:47 PM
Quote
I could do a thread on hear if people want it.

Yes please! We love build threads on here.  :-))
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on July 29, 2009, 11:59:38 PM
Yes I second that Martin!
 
O0

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 01, 2009, 09:12:59 PM
Hi Martin and Simon I am in Ireland for work when I get back I will start a thread. Simon go for it get a Finnjet. To say she was a power house she could do 33.5 knots and hit this in only 3 MIN that nearly 40 000 tones o to 33.5. There is no other ferry in the world like her and sadly it looks like there never will be she was a one off. For more on her go to
http://www.finnjetweb.com/en/  .

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 02, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Hello John,

I am sorely tempted to give this one a go. However, with so much interest in this thread that I started, it is a great pity that complete ferry kits in a larger scale aren't produced by some of the model manufacturers out there. I think this thread proves without doubt that if such kits were available they would sell like hot cakes! It seems like a perfect business opportunity to me. I would love to build something like the Brittany Ferries Pont Aven. Maybe someone might take the hint?! Boat kits are now of such high quality and accuracy that I'm sure a car ferry kit or two could be achieved with reasonable ease by an innovative company. I'd be interested to hear others views on this matter...

All the best
Simon  %)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 03, 2009, 07:32:23 PM
Hi Simon If you look at the market. An average  ferry has a length of 150m to 200m. One of the most common scales is 1:100 ,this would put kits in a bracket were most people with an average sized car would struggle or not manage. So now we all ready have a smaller market. Ok change the scale then you risk going in to odd ball scale country were most people wont want to know. Look at the plastic kit market were a kit is made in an odd ball sized scale ,never been a good seller.
On the market there are 5 big ferry kits .2 by Deans 3 by 2 German manufacturers. Deans want's about £700 for Celestine and the German manufacture wants just over €1000 euro for Superfast . Until the pound crashed , give and take were about the same price. So to make a big ferry kit it going to be a round that amount of money which limits the market reach.
The ship its self which do you choose so many do you go very modern or 1980 or 1990 which operator. One thing they have in common is they are ALL TOP HEAVY. This means your average molder would struggle on it . Doesn't look good for a manufacture that sell a kit that sinks easily .
Livery you might fine an operator wants a big revenue slice to use there name or the might not like there name on the side of a badly made model doesn't look good for them.
Add all this togther you fine it a very limited market. On Mayhem I know of 5 ferry modlers/intusates out of 3095 members. If i was a manufactor of a kit I cerently would not look at making a kit a hull/plans may be.
As for your plastic kit makers if the ever did decide to make a ferry ask this question. What scale will the choose . I would say 1:400 or 1:600. Finnjet is 214m long she is the world's 4 longest ferry so if the did make a ferry it going to be small and very top heavy making conversion very hard. Yes they could up it to 1:350 but Revell are very aware how much QM2 cost them to make and she has a wider market appeal that a car ferry.
Sorry to say it's Finnjet or mega bucks.
Just out of interest what ferry would you like made in to a kit and at what scale
John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: ZZ56 on August 04, 2009, 04:50:26 AM
Actually, the best scales for a ferry would be 1:87 or 1:160, as these let you use model railroad vehicles and people.  Don't know of any 1:100 scale autos.

There's nobody saying you can't have a big ferry, Simon, just that you'll have to build it yourself.  Which sounds a lot more intimidating than it actually is, given that you're already on this site with all the expert builders at your fingertips!
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 08:13:13 AM
Thanks for your replies John and ZZ56.

I stand by my theory that due to the number of viewings of this subject (over 3000) there is latent interest in the idea of car ferry kits. Something like 1/200 scale might be a possibility, but for me I'd buy anything at a reasonable price and size. The top heavy "problem" shouldn't be a difficulty in the 21st Century; there will be ways to cure that. As someone once said to me: "there are no problems, only solutions". I'm sure if a manufacturer did some market research via this forum (alone) they would find sufficient numbers of people interested to justify producing a kit. I also feel that the price range should not exceed £450. As I said in my earlier posting I would like a ferry such as the "Pont Aven" or one of the more contemporary Stena Line vessels. I think the kit should be of a more contemporary design as most passenger ship kits seem to be much older.

Fingers crossed...
Simon  {:-{
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 04, 2009, 09:06:01 AM
I'm sure it would be possible to do a ferry kit but from the viewpoint of the manufacturer why pick something that would be quite technically demanding when you can play safe with a prototype which is inherently much more stable and would almost certainly sell more units? There may have been over 3000 viewings on the topic but a lot of them will be people like me who have viewed it a number of times.

As ZZ56 says, why not build one yourself and take all the credit! It can be done as this pic of the Brittany Ferries model seen at Warwick demonstrates. It wasn't named as such but is obviously meant to be the Bretagne and had lots of working features.

Colin

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 09:25:50 AM
Hello Colin,

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to scratch build a model such as the one in your photo. However, I don't have the time or skill to do this, sadly. I hear what you and others are saying about the financial/technical implications of producing such a kit are, but take the model railway business as an example of what I'm going on about. One very well known and excellent model railway manufacturer has shown incredible innovation and courage in producing pretty obscure prototype locos in 4mm; one such loco is an eight coupled freight engine which a few years ago would have been unthinkable as a ready to run model (most would have said that it would be sheer madness to attempt such a loco). Yet it has sold incredibly well and is a superb model and very reasonably priced. Even enthusiasts who were not interested in the class have bought the model because it is so beautifully made and accurate. Boat kits might not have such a large market as model railways (I don't know that for a fact of course) but there is probably something in this ethos. I suppose it is creating a demand by totally surprising the public with a lovely kit that they just have to have!

Simon  %)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 04, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Simon,

Yes, I'm afraid you are right - model boating is the poor relation. The markets for railways, flying and military modelling are many times the size of ours. The loco you mention has clearly generated its own market but as the pool is so much bigger the manufacturers are taking less of a risk.

Still, we live in hope!

Colin
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 04, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
This is a nice model of a ferry, seen at the Doncaster show.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/shows2009/Doncaster2009/imagepages/image118.html


(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/shows2009/Doncaster2009/images/Doncaster2009-118.JPG)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 01:04:59 PM
Very nice!  <:(
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 04, 2009, 06:41:11 PM
Hi Simon . I agree with you. The big difference is price. Heljan have been brave to make loco like the clayton a very short lived loco.The difference is that is priced at around £100 so fan will buy + others. As the price gos up the amount fan's that can afford it go's down and so do the amount of one off buyers.The only way to bring a kit down is mass production and that's the likes of robbe or graunper . Are lot of very good manufacturers are not geared up for mass production.
 Stability is still an issue. Ferries are top heavy. so take for example Ulysse the top half of here would have to be made very light to reduce weight up top. This would mean a manufacture would have to put in extra design here more cost. Most ferries have shallow draft. This would mean a big scale so the model can take weight of a lot of ballast to improve here stability. This mean a larger model make more cost and mean people need a big car reducing market appeal.
I would love nothing more than  a good kit of a nice modern ferry for £400 to £500 but I can see it happening.

ZZ56. the 1:100 scale is common in the merchant model boat scale. Yes car are very hard to fine in that scale but they do exist as I have bought some for my model ferry Celestine which is at 1:100
 Take a look at the photo which Martin posted. Note the depth of happy hunter which is behind the pride of Hull. Happy hunter a smaller model a bigger scale about 1:60? has more hull in the water than the pride of Hull smaller scale at 215m long i would say about 1:150 ish . Pride of hull has a lot more out of the water than happy hunter as a manufacture I know which one would be on my production line and it ant the pride of Hull.
Martin got any more photos or info on her.
John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 04, 2009, 07:02:24 PM
There is another factor to take into account and that is windage. When you scale down a ship the displacement reduces by the cube root but the surface area of the side of the hull only goes down by the square root. As real wind stays the same the wind force on the hull is disproportionate on a model compared to the real thing. That is why most scale sailing boats need a false keel to carry a decent amount of sail. In the case of our ferry more than a gentle breeze will tend to make her list. Combine this with the hull being "tender" anyway for reasons previously stated and you end up with a rather cranky model on the pond. Obviously the bigger the model the less the effect but it is still a headache for the designer.

Colin
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
Thanks for all the replies John and Colin - interesting. Your photo of the Irish ferry is very inspiring John and what a sleek design! With an appropriate hull this particular ferry would be fairly "easy" to scratch build I think with styrene sheet.

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 04, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
not until you have seen her stern area. What a detailing night mare.
I was due to go on her last Friday put my company changed last second  and I went via Stena line .
John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 04, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Just remembered, I got pictures of Ferries!

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/Portsmouth/index.htm

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/Portsmouth/images/Portsmouth001.JPG)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 09:15:42 PM
Cheers for the photos Martin and John. I can see I'm going to have to have a go at scratch building one of these vessels! The Irish Ferries example in your photos John might be a possibility. I was wondering if I could use the Finnjet hull and some of the superstructure as a starting point; basically a slightly larger scale but a shorter, more chunky ferry than the Finnjet. Perhaps even a freelance design incorporating bits of other ferries. Any thoughts fellas? My biggest concern is sorting out the RC components (how to do the prop tubes, waterproofing them, wiring, where to purchase all the stuff,  :(etc).

Simon  :((
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 04, 2009, 09:35:02 PM
Cheers for the photos Martin and John. I can see I'm going to have to have a go at scratch building one of these vessels! The Irish Ferries example in your photos John might be a possibility. I was wondering if I could use the Finnjet hull and some of the superstructure as a starting point; basically a slightly larger scale but a shorter, more chunky ferry than the Finnjet. Perhaps even a freelance design incorporating bits of other ferries. Any thoughts fellas? My biggest concern is sorting out the RC components (how to do the prop tubes, waterproofing them, wiring, where to purchase all the stuff,  :(etc).

Simon  :((

Simon if I was you and was going to build a scratch build ferry I would not get 1 hull from 1 ship and try and get the superstructure from another to fit. Yes do it If you are making a freelance ferry but not if you are going to all the hard work of making a model of a prototype.
1 choose your ferry make a list of 3 and search for what you can get Ie plans photos available.Remember what I and Colin have said about stability
2 Work out the biggest model you can handed Ie car/workshop etc. This will dictate the scale.
AS for water proofing electrics rc and the rest don't worry there's many many experts on here that will help you on this build.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 10:01:02 PM
Cheers John. Here's an interesting link which you might have seen: http://irishseashipping.com/memorabilia/BIModels/BIModels.htm
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 04, 2009, 11:08:43 PM
Hi Simon nice find there ,thats one for the book mark folder . Look at the model of Ulysse they have on that site. She has naff all under the water. It amassing on how they stay up wright.

Here is a propasel for you. Seafrance Moliere ex ex superfast X .http://www.doverferryphotos.co.uk/pastandpresent/nicoli.htm.
Why here. well there is a kit 1:100. If you go back early in this thread  Hama found a shop in Germany that did superfast VII the kit was €1100 and plans were €75 . Sine Superfast X have been owned by several operators this increases the chances of getting good info/plans form them . Go to page 2 of the thread and Sven said there is a chance of getting info from Superfast at Rostock . I have 296 photos of superfast I to X on my lap top happy to share.
As A build she not the hardest nice straight side not to high superstructure . good bit of hull under water line .

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 04, 2009, 11:29:09 PM
Cheers for the info John! Nice looking ferry with a hull quite similar to the Finnjet. If I did choose this vessel I'd certainly appreciate some more of your excellent photos. Did you have in mind the Finnjet hull as a basis for this ferry, or was it by chance that the two hulls are similar?

All the best
Simon  %%
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: ZZ56 on August 05, 2009, 02:13:40 AM

ZZ56. the 1:100 scale is common in the merchant model boat scale. Yes car are very hard to fine in that scale but they do exist as I have bought some for my model ferry Celestine which is at 1:100.

Do you know who manufactures them?  I was considering some figures and maybe vehicles for a future project (dock) but i couldn't find any in 1:100 or 1:96 scales. 
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: ZZ56 on August 05, 2009, 03:11:04 AM
Cheers for the photos Martin and John. I can see I'm going to have to have a go at scratch building one of these vessels! The Irish Ferries example in your photos John might be a possibility. I was wondering if I could use the Finnjet hull and some of the superstructure as a starting point; basically a slightly larger scale but a shorter, more chunky ferry than the Finnjet. Perhaps even a freelance design incorporating bits of other ferries. Any thoughts fellas? My biggest concern is sorting out the RC components (how to do the prop tubes, waterproofing them, wiring, where to purchase all the stuff,  :(etc).

Simon  :((

The Finnjet looks very small at 1:400 scale.  The smaller the model, the smaller the sea it can sail in. 

I would echo everyone else's suggestions about building the largest ferry you can practically transport.  Perhaps a smaller prototype might be called for.  For actually constructing it: 
Build a wood/fiberglass hull only up to a line drawn level with the top of the bows
Make everything above this line out of thin styrene card
When ballasting, place ALL weight BELOW the waterline.  Leave nothing above

Try to get this kind of weight distribution:   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/DestructorBot/diagram.jpg)

You might also want to look into having working stabilizers, connected either to a pendulum or to the rudders, to prevent her from heeling too much in turns or underway in a crosswind.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Guy Bagley on August 05, 2009, 09:15:12 AM
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1088/p1010003gty.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1010003gty.jpg/)
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1088/p1010003gty.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1010003gty.jpg/)


 these were taken at hop farm/ southern model airshow a year or two ago
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Guy Bagley on August 05, 2009, 10:32:22 AM
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2302/p1010007x.jpg) (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/p1010007x.jpg/)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 05, 2009, 12:48:59 PM
Nice pictures Guy!

There is one other plastic ferry kit which can be found secondhand if you hunt around on the internet and that is the Heller "Avenir" in 1/300 scale I believe (a good size for RC conversion). It looks very nice but I'm more interested in modern prototypes.

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 05, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
Hi Simon The Avenir is rare as so expect very high prices..
For the Sea France I would not use Finnjet hull very different Bow and sterns.
If you like this ferry what you will need is a set of line drawings for the hull. May be some one on her could use one of the computer programs to make you a set of hull line. I haven't a clue on this. I would wright in German to that shop In Germany for the cost of 1 plans 2 hull ONLY bear in mind the real ferry is 204m long so at 1:100 the hull will be 2.04m long. Celestine is 1.62m long and ONLY just fits in a Mondao .
Next from there with photos etc you should be able to get a round most problems.
There is another Ferry that could be done and that is Sealink St Colmba ,no hull but you can get a good set of model plans which I have a copy.
So like I said Simon get a list of Ferry you like and go for there let us know and we can try and work out pro's and con's for each.
When Celestine clears the building slip I am starting Finnjet 1:100 2.14m long. This will go in a special made roof box which will bolt to my roof rack. I have wall a round my work shop with a 2.4m long plank to see if I had clearance to get her in and out and Its a tight fit put she fits .
Pm me your address and I will try and get you that CD of ferry photos yo you.

Hi ZZ56 go on ebay and type in 1:100 car click world wide and there you see them. There are 2 types 1 is what architects use on model of buildings and the second is made by Kyosho for Japan collecters market. For peope prisler do a box ,try ebay or 4D model in London.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 07, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
Found this site very nice.

John

http://www.ferrypics.be.tt/
http://www.ship-hunters.be/links/links.htm
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 07, 2009, 09:29:05 PM

Great find John!   :-))
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 11:24:27 AM
Here are some more nice ferry sites:

http://www.schiffsfotos.info/4902.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*
http://www.hhvferry.com/deckplans.htm
http://www.irishships.com/photo_album_ferries.html

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 09, 2009, 11:57:30 AM
And this one for Brittany Ferries:

http://www.bfenthusiasts.com/

Colin
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 12:27:10 PM
Hello Martin, John, Colin and everyone else in this thread,

I've decided to buy the Finnjet and convert it into a freelance ferry. Instead of the double funnels I will replace these with one funnel moved to around midships. I am going to base the model on an amalgamation of three very nice ferries (my favourites), namely: "Stena Europe"; Irish Ferries "Normandy", and "Stena Germanica". I think these vessels are all very elegant and nicely proportioned. I will modify the upper decks around the stern to achieve a similar shape to the above three ferries, i.e. the square block look. The model will be painted white with either a red or green funnel and named something like "Neptune"; "Rosslare" or "Fishguard" (the latter two because it was in these locations that I started getting interested in ferries). I might do a building thread here if anyone is interested? I'd certainly appreciate some help with the radio control part of the construction; where to source all the parts and how to wire everything up! I was wondering about making the hull of the Finnjet a bit shorter (to replicate the more compact look of the three chosen ferries) by cutting it in two in the middle and removing a small amount of plastic and then rejoining it with styrene sheet and filler. I suppose a working bow thruster is not possible in this small scale?  I realise that ballasting the model correctly and making sure it doesn't blow over is important. I'd appreciate any views on all of the above!

Cheers
Simon  %)

PS: Here are some nice photos of 'Stena Europe" around Fishguard I believe - what a lovely looking ferry!  http://www.abergwaun.com/places/fishguard/stenaeurope/140302/index.htm
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
Could anyone suggest which thickness plasticard styrene sheet (in millimetres) I should get for the Finnjet conversion - for modifying the sides of the deck, the deck itself, and the funnel? I am thinking about the weight versus strength issue and I want to avoid the plastic warping as it does when the solvent dries.

Many thanks
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2009, 03:08:02 PM
Hi Simon That's some nice  ferry's you have picked. I have just down loaded there deck plans  . What I will do is compare them to Finnjet then look at my Finnjet model and try work out what a good route to go. I would advise no thicker than 1.5mm near the top.
I was in Roslair on the Stena hss to Fishguard . A long side us was the Stena Europe.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 03:26:14 PM
Nice to hear from you John. I'm pleased that you like my choice of ferries. I'd really appreciate your offer to look into the Finnjet model to see what might be possible with regards to these three ferries (I think Normandy and Stena Europe are basically the same type of ferry - they certainly look identical). I just like these vessels because of their nice clean lines and well-proportioned looks. They would all make attractive RC models and I think the Finnjet could be easily modified to look something like one of my choices.

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 09, 2009, 04:22:55 PM
Quote
  I've decided to buy the Finnjet and convert it into a freelance ferry...

Which kit is that Simon?
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 04:58:20 PM
Hello Martin,

It's the Revell model (1/400 scale I think).

Cheers
Simon  ok2
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2009, 05:04:51 PM
Hi Simon . Stena Europe is 150m long by 26wide. Finnjet is 215m long by 25 wide. On a model we can with easily lengthen/shorten a hull but not make it wider. So given that FJ and SE have all most the same width.The scale for Stena Europa is 1:400 making her 37.5 cms long ,Finnjet is 53 cms long. So we have to remove 15.5cms of Finjets hull to give us the wright width to length ratio of Stena Europa.
Here is were the proplems start. Looking At Finnjet hull there is a only a 10cms long section were the bow stop tapering in and the stern starts tapering out.
Second take any hull you have 3 sections 1 stern 2 midships 3 bow. There is more cubic air in a midships section due to the fact that at the bow and stern they tapering in and up reducing the cubic volume of air below the water line. For you to get the correct width to length ratio on SE you are going to have to remove ALL of Finnjets midships section.This will drastically reduce the volume below the water line.The model of Finnjet hull can support only just enough weight for thr kit +motors,esc,radio etc.
I don't know if it can be done sorry to say ,Wold love to hear other people thought or any solutions.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2009, 05:13:09 PM
here a plan of Finnjet and Stena Europe in about the same scale not to sure on SE height but length is about bang on. There a fair difference.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 09, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
Hello John,

Many thanks for the comparison diagrams which are very helpful. The longer hull of the Finnjet is not a problem because I would probably keep it that length and just alter the funnels (one instead of two and in the approximate midships position) plus build up the sides and fill in the stern deck area, thus giving the model a fuller look. My intention is not to replicate "Stena Europe", etc, just to draw strong influence from it with a similar livery and other features. However, if anyone does know the answer to your question about how to reduce the length of the Finnjet hull whilst maintaining enough room for the RC gear plus keeping the model buoyant I'd be most interested to hear! John what components for the RC are you using and where did you buy them all?

Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 09, 2009, 06:01:18 PM
I see your plan now Simon .
RC Gear
motors there are 180 I got them at a show pay 1 or 2 quid for them. Silicon fuel tube for coupling 
Steering servo I use one of thoes small micro servo's most model shop stock them ,I use my local shop Howes of Oxford.
ESC  In these plastic kit conversion I use Action kits .P82 micro motor mixer and P68A micro ESC. Speak to Dave FLJ on this forum. Top Products
Battery I use a 4.8v pack size determined by the weight + space available in the model.Most good model shop stock them or you could speak to John at Model power.
Radio. any 2ch will do . I would not go 27mhz as not many frequency slots as compared to  40 mhz or 2.4ghz. Unless you are stuck for size or weight use a normal receiver and you can remove it case saving a few grams.
Prop shaft. Go to a model shop that stocks K\S brass . get some rod and tube this will do.
Props. Finnjet has good plastic props have to drill them out to fit on to the brass rod and clean them up. If you want to go brass Speak to Simon at Prop Shop.
Rudders. Made up from flat brass and rod.
If you are stuck on any thing let me know Simon and we will see what can be worked out

John

Ps If I was you get a selection of plastic card from 1.5mm down to the thinnest. When you come to add it to your model you can then look at them and see which is the THINNEST you can use for that task.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 13, 2009, 07:23:20 PM
Hi Simon here some photos of the Stena Europe I took in Roslair  .

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 13, 2009, 08:28:23 PM
Great photos John! Thanks for posting them. I've got the Finnjet on order now so hopefully I can start to design a nice ferry with lots of inspiration taken from the Stena Europe. I'll keep you and everyone else involved with this thread up to date with my progress.

All the best John
Simon   %)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: ZZ56 on August 14, 2009, 06:51:44 AM
Have a look at this thread on RCgroups, Simon.  I think it might be right up your alley.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1048020 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1048020)

I thought there was a duplicate here but I can't seem to find it.   {:-{

EDIT:  the part about the laser cutting was really interesting; if you are afraid of making mistakes on the frames and keel and you've got the money, it sounds like a good alternative to hand-cutting.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 14, 2009, 01:15:21 PM
Cheers for the excellent link ZZ56! Very interesting article...
 
%%


Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 21, 2009, 01:41:28 PM
Hello John,

My Finnjet kit arrived today! Luckily it's not damaged because the box got badly crushed in the post. I checked it all and everything seems fine. Now all I need to do is build it! Any help with the RC side of things would be most welcome...

All the best
Simon

PS - I've attached a photo that I took a few days ago near Marseille. In the distance can be seen a ferry to Corsica. The vessel had just left Marseille. It was very hot that day and lovely in the sea! The photo was taken at about 7.00pm just after I got out of the water!

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4658/63034895.th.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq15D039)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 22, 2009, 11:35:52 PM
Hi Simon that sure looks nice in the south of France.
Glad you got a Finnjet. Any question fire away and we will see what can be done.
I have started a build thread on my Finnjet I real must get some more work done on her.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19100.0
John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: andygh on August 22, 2009, 11:52:19 PM
Fantastic view, I'm getting all excited about going down to my sisters place at Cap D'Agde in a few weeks now
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 03, 2009, 11:16:42 AM
hi Simon
On Monday I am on the Stena Europe I will try and get some photos for you. Its great on these ferries as you get wi fi on board so you are getting this from the Stena Explorer in the middle of a choppy Irish sea.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 07, 2009, 10:59:13 PM
HI all went on Stena Europe today. What a lovely boat. There was loads of nice deck to walk on not like on modern ferry. She might be old but the sun was out it was  warm and it was a lovely crossing on a great boat.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on September 08, 2009, 12:42:09 PM
Hello John!

Sorry about the delay in responding to your earlier posting. I bet it is a nice ferry to travel on and the fact that you can walk around on the decks is a real bonus. Any more photos of the ferry?

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 08, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
Hi Simon I have a few more i will try and get them up on the next few days.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 09, 2009, 08:51:47 PM
Hi Simon
here are some more photos.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on September 10, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
She really is a nice ship ..

Im looking harder into the M/V Caribou she is a gallant ship and would make a nice working model .... plus she's close to home

(http://www.knudehansen.com/data/images/news/caribou.jpg)

Hard to believe this ship only draws 6.6 to 7.4 meters of water ..
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on September 10, 2009, 02:14:22 PM
John, really nice photos of the "Europe" there. As More Coffee says she really is a fine looking vessel, with very clean lines. What a great ferry for a model. The MV Caribou looks good too More Coffee and the overall design looks similar to the Revell Finnjet. Maybe a conversion job or a freelance model along the same lines?

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on September 10, 2009, 08:08:28 PM
John, really nice photos of the "Europe" there. As More Coffee says she really is a fine looking vessel, with very clean lines. What a great ferry for a model. The MV Caribou looks good too More Coffee and the overall design looks similar to the Revell Finnjet. Maybe a conversion job or a freelance model along the same lines?Cheers
Simon

Nope ..i have the initial line's for Caribou.. Just need more facts , wheel house camber ,front superstructure rake, funnel dimension, ..Etc.. lots more pictures ..hopfully i can lay her out ..
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: More Coffee on September 16, 2009, 03:27:38 AM
OK ..i did some math but probably more worthy of different thread..than this one ..on some intial lines i have of said ship above ..using Archimedes principal ..if it takes 56 pounds of water to fill it ..then it can lift 56 pounds ..
So my meager math skills tell me that i would have to build a ship thats 179 cm long,25cm wide, about 54 cm high ..that has a draft of 6.6 cm ..and can weigh no more than 56 lbs .. this dosent seem realistic ..It doesnt speak sea worthy model ..any body else have any ideas..
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 17, 2009, 06:05:26 PM
Hi there. I take it you are displacing about 25.4 Kg.
Looking at her in the photo she not to high apart from the funnels and the mast which can be made light. On her the high I would worry about is to the base of her mast as there is not much above that . With a draft of 6.6cms I would say she is going to be a bit tender. If you were to increase this by say 1.4 cms so she 8 cms draft this would help . There is no real way around the height of the superstructure and the effect wind has on it. Say all that My ferry Celestine is quite stable and she get hit by the wind.

John 
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on February 25, 2010, 10:27:05 PM
HI all
I Was up in Finland last week . Went on some ferry up there. Talk about a different world . The silja line ferry was like a cruise ship. There are some nice colorful ships up there.Best thing on the trip was the ice and lot of it. Silja symphony had to use her high power spot lights to find her way in the ice a night.

JOhn
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Martin [Admin] on February 25, 2010, 10:32:06 PM
GREAT photos John  :-))

... that first photo, at first glance, looks like the box had the side torn open!
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on February 26, 2010, 05:48:26 PM
Hi Martin
The ferries of Tallink have very novel paint jobs. Here we have Baltic Princess , Star , Super Star,Victoria 1 and Galaxy. Then we have the inside of Silja Symphony.The ferries up there are in a different world to what we have.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on July 06, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
Oooooh,... Pretty...

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6803/mm120fdlng4.jpg) (http://www.multi-maritime.no/Default.aspx?tabid=4132&newsid10033=2044&Multi-Maritime-to-design-LNG-fuelled-car-ferry-for-Fjord1&language=en-US)

 8)

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 03, 2010, 02:33:56 PM
Hello all!

I've just found an interesting RC ferry link with a couple of very nice looking models (with videos and photos). I particularly like the Blue Star ferry which has working stern and bow doors:-

http://scratchmodel.com/Modeller.html

Cheers
Simon  %%

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: essex2visuvesi on October 03, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
Hi Christian!
Thanks a lot for the information. That is really a very nice model you built, thanks for showing this beauty.
Hama.
[Hello Hama,

there is a modell kit (1:100) of the Kong Harald by "PK Modell" (I think it is a norwegian company). I don not know the price of the kit. The Kong Harald is a ship of the norwegian coastal service operated by Hurtigruten. I don´t know whether or not you can call this vessel a ferry. It has a small garage. I attached a photo I found in the net. I think the same modell is (or was) also offered by the company "Krick", but I am not sure. Christian]


[/quote]

Billing boats do one as well... maybe the same one

http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProduct.php?ProdID=4584

need deep pockets tho  :o
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 03, 2010, 06:44:01 PM
Nice find there Simion. That Blue star ferry was nice. That bow ramp would get wet if it was deployed when the model is on the water

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on October 03, 2010, 10:02:03 PM
Hello John,

Yup! Apart from the Finnjet and Deans Marine kit have you any more ferries lined up?
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on October 04, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
I would like to do 2 sprite class ferries. There were 3 in the class The sprite , hearld and pride of free enterprise.I have just been collecting photos at the moment.If Oleander stayes down in the med and dosent come back. There may be a chance to get plans , not sure. This is a long way off yet. I would think 2013 at or later. Celestine is on hold till I finish off rebuilding the work shop.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: carlmt on January 05, 2011, 12:47:11 PM
I would like to do 2 sprite class ferries. There were 3 in the class The sprite , hearld and pride of free enterprise.I have just been collecting photos at the moment.If Oleander stayes down in the med and dosent come back. There may be a chance to get plans , not sure. This is a long way off yet. I would think 2013 at or later. Celestine is on hold till I finish off rebuilding the work shop.

John

Can't say too much at the moment - or give too much away................but I know of two new cross channel car ferry kits in the prototyping stage at this moment..........and I am sure you would not be disappointed!!!!!

Expected availabilty of the first would probably be toward the end of this year (2011) with the second in the summer or 2012...

Wiill keep you all posted.....
Carl
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on January 19, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Hi Carl
If you are doing a Sprit class ferry kit in or near 1:100 you would make my day.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on January 19, 2011, 05:16:23 PM
Oooooh,... Pretty...

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6803/mm120fdlng4.jpg) (http://www.multi-maritime.no/Default.aspx?tabid=4132&newsid10033=2044&Multi-Maritime-to-design-LNG-fuelled-car-ferry-for-Fjord1&language=en-US)

 8)


Now I fear it was a mistake to post that...Toesup will have a double-ended-go-fast-both-ways Springer like that in the Werks soon. %% {-) It is a bonny looking craft though.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: carlmt on January 19, 2011, 05:20:21 PM

"Hi Carl
If you are doing a Sprit class ferry kit in or near 1:100 you would make my day."


Now John........that would be giving the game away %) %) %)

Lets just say....................'it is not an impossibility - more a probability'.........

The FEV is certainly occupying nearly all my time outside my 'normal' day job........but it is now getting to the stage where I can think of the next couple and have already started laying the 'foundations'....

I would estimate that a 'Spirit' would be on the horizon in about 18 - 24 months.  It takes the best part of 4 months at the moment to design the kit (just the draiwngs).......

Can you wait that long?  :-))
Carl
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on January 19, 2011, 05:27:12 PM
I can wait. I have mv Celestine on the go at the moment. Hoping to start 1:100 Finnjet soon. That a fair bit of time taken up.
The Sprit class would be a real chalanage with all thoes angels in her superstructer and her hull. The hull has some realy wearid bit in it like the way the front and rear kink up from the middel. I have loads of photos of her taken from diffrent angels incuiding her bridge pm me if you need any.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: carlmt on January 19, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Hi John - PM sent...............one can NEVER have too much information!!!!
Carl
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Howard Q on February 01, 2011, 10:51:30 PM
Hi. Just as an add on, the MV Muirneag of Cal Mac used to belong to the Isle of Man Steam packet and sailed under the name Bellard, but didn't stay long, she was chartered out for a while but was laid up prior to sale several years ago, there is a model on the Island built as the Bellard. Howard Q.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on March 12, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
Hello!
Seems like the ferries are getting more freqvent on the forum now, so here is my contribution. I built this hull about ten years ago and I'm still waiting for inspiration to continue. Perhaps now with all this activity on the forum. In -93 I worked as second mate on this ferry, then on charter for Larvik Line trading between Larvik Norway - Fredrikshavn Denmark under the name "Thor Heyerdahl". She was built as "Dana Regina" in -74 and was later in her career the first ferry to open up ferry traffic to the Baltic states as "Nord Estonia", predecessor to the ill fated "Estonia".I believe she is still alive, but not kicking, as "Vana Tallinn" for Tallink. I think it's a beautiful ship and remember that she had teakdecks on the promenade decks. I took copies of the GA when I left and that was enough to make a bread and butter construction. It's made of balsa and covered with epoxy. Some day she WILL be built!
All the best!
Hama.
Title: SUPERFAST V + VI Lines Plan
Post by: deadwood on March 25, 2012, 10:48:43 PM
Though not quite a kit I hope my posting here is appropriate nonetheless.

Because I share your interest in ferries I reconstructed the hull lines of a few modern ferry designs that tickled my fancy by aid of the freely usable hull lofting software DELFTship.

My latest addition to my ongoing thread in a German model boats forum is that of the hull lines of SUPERFAST V + VI (http://www.rc-modellbau-schiffe.de/wbb2/thread.php?postid=272452#post272452) ferries which were built in 2000 at HDW Kiel.
As a basis for my guesswork I used the scan of a small general arrangement plan of the vessel that was published along with a technical ship description in the German naval architecture magazine HANSA  of the respective year of build.

If you scroll up or back in the history of my thread you will find similar hull lines that I did of other ferries.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on March 26, 2012, 02:25:19 PM
Very nice set of hull lines for Superfast 5. I know Superfast 9 and 10 ex Talink boats had the new superstructr but was the hull the same.

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on April 10, 2012, 09:28:03 PM
Hello!
Well, no kits this time either but I wish they were. Just bought the GA for some of my favourite ferries. Figured that someday I might build them, if only a simple version. The full plan doesn't show on the pictures but they all have deck plans, no frames though.
They are; m/s Gotland, m/s Svea Corona, m/s Patricia and m/s Tor Britannia.

All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Norseman on April 10, 2012, 10:19:27 PM
Hi Hama

The story continues; I think your ship is now leased to Allferries (from June 2011 for a 3 year contract in the med) renamed as the Adriatica Queen.
Showing as in port at Bari today. I would like to see you finish your build on Mayhem but with a better paintjob than she has now.
(http://s13.postimage.org/mhtzsq077/Ro_Ro_ferry_Adriatica_Queen_Bari_Harbour_Italy_15_Sept_2011.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mhtzsq077/)

There are a few ferry enthusiasts on here who would enjoy looking in.

Dave
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on April 11, 2012, 08:15:51 AM
Hello
Happy to see that she's still alive, but wonder for how long? A fine ship! The biggest ship I've had the pleasure to manouvre, that was great fun turning her around and backing into position at the linkspan. Standing on the open wing in a summermorning after a nightcrossing, great memories from almost twenty years ago.
Thanks for showing.
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on April 11, 2012, 04:00:55 PM
Hi Hama
Do you have a link to were you got thoes plans as there are a few I would like to get. As for Tor Britaina hull lines dont worry Ralph (deadwood) on here has done a set see link.
http://www.rc-modellbau-schiffe.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=22433&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=1

John
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on April 11, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
Hello John!
I got them from a "Historic shipping association" called Klubb Maritim that I´m a member of. If you go to klubbmaritim.com (http://klubbmaritim.com) and look for ritningsarkivet ( plans archive ). You can read the site in english. I don´t know if you have to be a member or not to buy plans, but they have lots of plans. Hardly any frame plans though. Each plan cost SEK 75.
Let me know if I can help out in any way.
Good luck!
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on April 12, 2012, 11:20:02 PM
Hi Hama
thank you for that. That is some list they have. I is goin to take a while to work throught that lot. It is a shame the when you see a ship you cant click on it and get an image of her. At first glance it would seam that it is older boat going up 1970s. I wold like to get some G/A of the baltic ferries os Silja,Viking Talink

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on May 12, 2012, 10:08:24 PM
A nice TT line RC model

john

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=sv&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://modellbyggar.forum24.se/modellbyggar-about16.html&usg=ALkJrhgjjfmrv1WRwnB97iUTOelMRl9k8g
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on January 03, 2014, 11:39:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhxBuDEaoY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Found this, great model. Pity it's out of production!
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: carlmt on January 04, 2014, 09:59:49 AM
It certainly is a beautiful model of a classic ferry!!!
There is one available on ebay in Belgium - E250.00
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HELLER-AVENIR-1-200-80625-/301047997773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item4617dbe54d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HELLER-AVENIR-1-200-80625-/301047997773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item4617dbe54d)
Carl
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Nordsee on January 05, 2014, 02:49:41 PM
hi there no i have not ordered from him. The boat i like he does is the robin hood ferry at 1:100. But have you seen the price . mmm that hell of a lot of cash. The ferry i want to do one day is the Spirit of free Enterprise  at 1:100. Of course she will be done in her best livery . Townsend Thorsen. But then there this superfast ferry that taken my fancy.
You say you want to model The Spirit of Free Enterprise, which one? All Townsend Ferries were named "Spirit of Free Enterprise", they just had different numbers after the Name. Incidentally some are still in Service on the route Ostend to Ramsgate, think it is called Euro Lines or such. Mostly Polish Crews and customers, very good Service, can recomend it.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: carlmt on January 05, 2014, 02:57:50 PM

 
Not quite correct Nordsee - there was only one Spirit of Free Enterprise, but she was one of 3 of a class the others being Pride of Free Enterprise and Herald of Free Enterprise.
The other 'Free Enterprise's' were a series of vessels constructed between 1962 and 1974 and numbered from I to VIII and were smaller and of a different design albeit by the same Naval Architect.
All the best
Carl
PS - the 'Spirit' was scrapped a few years ago following the collapse of GA ferries in Greece, the 'Pride' became the 'Oleander' and worked for Trans Europa Ferries between Ramsgate and Ostend until a couple of years ago when she transferred to the Med. She now runs with the name Sherbatskiya for a different company - TEF having gone bust last year.  We all know what happened to the 'Herald' sadly.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on August 01, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
http://www.g-schmidt.com/schiffsmodellrumpfe/viking-sally1-100.html
This one was new to me! You know what she became, m/s Estonia.
Anyone tried this company?
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Brian60 on August 02, 2014, 10:35:12 AM
Brittany Ferries was mentioned earlier so I'll give a little of the info I know of two of them. The Cap Finisterre and Pont Aven run between Spain and the UK across the Bay of Biscay.

When you realise they are not counting the lower engine space etc, they are 10 decks high but only have a draught of 18 feet the mind boggles :o Its not as though the trucks are on the lower decks either as there is not enough headroom, the lower two decks are for cars/ motorcycles. The next two decks are for trucks, motorhomes etc so even the weight is high in them meaning a higher centre of gravity.

For instance we have crossed on the Pont Aven in July when the 'Bay' has cut up rough, with stabilizers deployed the boat was still rolling so much it was impossible to stand without holding on to handrails etc- many passengers were sick that trip and the cleaners were everywhere with buckets and mops {:-{

I've attached a couple of detail shots, the first is the Pont Aven the others are the rear of the Cap Finistere. I have some overall shots, if I can find them I'll post them later.
 
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 04, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
http://www.g-schmidt.com/schiffsmodellrumpfe/viking-sally1-100.html (http://www.g-schmidt.com/schiffsmodellrumpfe/viking-sally1-100.html)
This one was new to me! You know what she became, m/s Estonia.
Anyone tried this company?
Hama

Hi Hama
I was intrested in the Spirit of free entprise hll. I email them and eventually go a reply. i was sent 3 photos of the hull. To say it was basic with inaccuracies is an under statment. If you are intrested in the Viking sally hull I would ask him for photos of the hull so you can make your own judgment .

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on August 06, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
Hello John!
Thanks for the info. Sad if the products are bad, when they have two rare ferry model hulls.
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 07, 2014, 10:09:36 AM
Some more inspiration from the Baltic :}
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 07, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
..and a couple more.  A great place for ship spotting, not just big ferries.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 07, 2014, 06:51:31 PM
Hello Hama
Yes I have to agree. when you are charging top doller and the product is basic . for that price I would expect a fully detailed hull


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 07, 2014, 06:58:43 PM
Hi Duncan
nice set of photos. I dont like Silja the new silja type font. i looks cheep

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 07, 2014, 09:34:02 PM
Agreed John, starting to look like modern cruise ships and the type style is very plain.. I was very impressed with the services and high standards on Baltic ferries. Didnt get on any of the St Peterline ones.   I still want to copy your winter trip :}
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on August 07, 2014, 11:18:58 PM
Nice photos!
The Isabelle was Viking Lines Isabella and they sold her to competitor Tallink. Princess Anastasia was built as Viking Lines Olympia, sister of Mariella that's still in traffic for Viking Line. She was a P&O ferry for some years. I know one of the captains of Silja Symphony, so when we made a cruise a year ago we where invited to stay on the bridge when departing Helsinki. Very nice scenery out through the narrows at Sveaborg. The little yellow road ferry Nora goes to the Island where I was born and raised. My parents live there as do my brother. He lives just above the ferry landing and works as captain on that ferry sometimes when on leave from his regular work.
Nothing to do with model kits, but some reflections!
All the best!
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 08, 2014, 03:26:49 PM
Interesting bit of shuffling around, imagine all those gallons of paint when a ship changes owner and of course the other refits required.  The side of one of the St. Peterline ships is now a huge billboard >:-o                                                                                Plenty of smaller ferries in Sweden of course.. sorry I missed you Hama <:( ,( spent too much time at the Vasa and surroundings). One day isn`t enough in any seaport :(( . The hotel had a nice portrait of a fine lady from the golden age.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: GAZOU on August 08, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Wow! I would not have wanted to paint all the white circles on the hull {-)
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on August 08, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
Duncan, you came so close and yet you missed me! Perhaps next time?
As for Princess Anasstasia, a bosuns nightmare to maintain that topside! Don't know, but it could be a sort of sticker. I've heard that it's rather common. The starboard side is plain white, at least last time I saw her.
Hama
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Netleyned on August 08, 2014, 06:33:13 PM
Wow! I would not have wanted to paint all the white circles on the hull {-)

The Hull is white so you just paint the blue around them %% %%

Ned
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 08, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Next time for sure Hama :-))    Red Olga was dragging me away from the harbour-side in the direction of the shops >:-o . She who must be obeyed etc etc.    So back to kits or ferry builds anyone  <*<
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: Arrow5 on August 08, 2014, 07:30:11 PM
...at least I saw your hat Hama.
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 08, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
Hi Duncan
nice set of photos. I dont like Silja the new silja type font. i looks cheep

john

i ment to say . the new style of lettering compaaired to the older style. I think the silja twins are great.

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: hama on September 05, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
Hello!
Trawling the net I found another company new to me. If I understand it correctly they plan on releasing a kit of the Finnjet this December. As of today they offer several laser cut super structures for tugs, the Graupner Neptun, a couple of cruiser hulls from company Steinhagen.
Looks good! The "Berlin" for instance is a very nice looking vessel. 250eur for the superstructure and 90 eur for the Grp hull from Steinhagen. We'll, not that bad after all. To bad the Neptun is discontinued as the ss-kits for it looks great too.
All the best!
Hama
http://www.mennos-modellwerft.de
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 05, 2014, 05:51:19 PM
Hi Hama
you have just made my day . A 1:100 finnjet for christmas oh yes please. Looking at the website there i a photo of a model of finnjet see link
http://www.mennos-modellwerft.de/eigene-kunden-modelle/. She does not look 1:100 more 1:150 or 1:1200

john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: plastic on September 05, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
If you're going to do a Finnjet, how about turbine power?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SM8bl8pAdM
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on September 05, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
If you're going to do a Finnjet, how about turbine power?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SM8bl8pAdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SM8bl8pAdM)
Made by lifeboat paul. I have seen this model . very nice . That is no gas turbine


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 24, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VISDHWQE7v0
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 24, 2015, 08:47:08 PM
very nice video of Both of Paul models


john
Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: cos918 on August 24, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
A build log of a TT ferry on Facebook


john


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bau-des-Combicarriers-Robin-Hood-als-Funktionsmodell/772842946125812

Title: Re: European Passenger Ferry kits (for RC)
Post by: polobeer on August 24, 2015, 10:05:41 PM
Thanks for the link John.