Model Boat Mayhem - Forum

Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Working vessels R&D: => Topic started by: Damien on August 01, 2008, 12:13:31 PM

Title: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 01, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
Does any one have any  interior pic's of a Tug's bridge showing fittings and placement of controls screens etc.
The bridge on my Seaport conversion has some large windows , I've ordered some sailors & a ships wheel from Red Bank Models and I'd like to add more detail.
If not personal pic's a link to a site with pic's would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Damien
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 01, 2008, 12:39:27 PM
Here's a few....
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: toesupwa on August 01, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
Does any one have any  interior pic's of a Tug's bridge showing fittings and placement of controls screens etc.

If not personal pic's a link to a site with pic's would be appreciated.


Try this http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9541570&postcount=102

and

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9541600&postcount=103

 O0
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: andyn on August 01, 2008, 09:26:35 PM
I expect to see a superspringer with that level of detail soon  O0

By the looks of Martin's Puffer, he could do the lighting  ;)
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 01, 2008, 10:30:32 PM
Are these any good? I have a couple more if you want them.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 01, 2008, 10:33:39 PM
And a couple more.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 01, 2008, 10:38:23 PM
Last two

By the way Damien if you want the dimensions of any of the equipment in my photos PM me. I am going back to the tug in a couple of weeks, to take some more pictures and measurements before I start my build of her.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 01, 2008, 11:33:52 PM
Martin, Toes, Andy & Brian The pic's are fanastic thanks.
Dimensions i'll work to the Sailors  Red Bank list them as 1:20 - 1:30 scale and the Seaport works out to be 1:26 scale of the Lorraine i'm approximating, hopefully i'll have the ordered bits within a week.
Thanks for the super fast replies O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 02, 2008, 12:22:35 AM
A technical question, in the pic of the compass what are the balls on either side for ? Are they for calibrating the compass to overcome the influence of the metal structure ?
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: andyn on August 02, 2008, 12:30:44 AM
A technical question, in the pic of the compass what are the balls on either side for ? Are they for calibrating the compass to overcome the influence of the metal structure ?
Damien.

Nah they're for overcoming the compass completely so the captain has to use the sat-nav  O0
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 02, 2008, 11:44:00 AM
Hi Damien

Yes Damien that is what they are for, this is what Wikipedia has to say:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binnacle

"The construction of many early binnacles used nails (mid 1700s), which were later discovered to cause magnetic deviations in compass readings. As the development of the compass and understanding of magnetism progressed greater attention was given to binnacle construction to avoid compass disturbances caused by iron.

With the introduction of iron-clad ships the magnetic deviation observed in compasses became more severe. Methods of compensation by arranging iron or magnetic objects near the binnacle were developed. In 1854 a new type of binnacle was patented by John Gray of Liverpool which directly incorporated adjustable correcting magnets on screws or rack and pinions. This was improved again when Lord Kelvin patented in the 1880s another system of compass and which incorporated two compensating magnets.



Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 02, 2008, 01:39:29 PM
Thanks Brian, I just knew there was another explanation besides Andy's humor
Can you tell me the approx dimensions of the brass binnacle in the second last pic please ?
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 02, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Sorry Damien

I can not give you any dimensions of the binnacle, this is one of the reasons I am going back to the tug in a couple of weeks. I took 125 pictures of her, but did not measure much luckily the marine superintendant of the company that owns her does not mind me going back to have another look.


Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: mike_victoriabc on August 02, 2008, 03:54:04 PM
Must have a manual for operating controls in those first photos! Must duplicate some functions depending on direction?

Thanks for posting those.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 17, 2008, 02:37:09 PM
Hi Brian,
I would appreciate some measurements and any more pic's, if you get back there ie: Ships wheel diameter, width & depth of the control panel, other desks, drawers etc.
Depth sounders, radar screens & computers and radios i can work out myself easy enough.
It must be great having access  like this.
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 17, 2008, 02:54:04 PM
Damien

I am going back to the ship on Wednesday morning, that will be no problem. Do you want the dimensions of the binnacle?

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 17, 2008, 09:34:01 PM
Yes please Brian, I have a 9mm bullet casing i'm hoping will be a good starting point.
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on August 21, 2008, 12:04:20 PM
Damien

Did not get to the tug yesterday due to car problems, now going Tuesday.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on August 21, 2008, 12:27:48 PM
No probs Brian i can wait i work so slow anyway, a few days won't matter.
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on September 05, 2008, 02:46:49 PM
I made a start on bridge fittings, the binacle is only needing a few points on the compass.
I used a .22 bullet casing (used) as the calliper shows 7.1mm diameter.

 (http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/GardnerDG/binacle.jpg)
and a chart table with draws crewman 1:30 scale shows size, i nees some 1:26/ 1:30 scale charts/maps.

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/GardnerDG/draws.jpg)

Well under way with the control/wheel area pic's soon.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on September 05, 2008, 04:40:15 PM
Damien

I will post the dimensions over the next couple of days, have the pictures just need to write the dimensions on them. Once again work has got in the way of pleasure.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on September 06, 2008, 12:03:05 AM
Thanks Brian, No pressure or rush I was  feeling good and my brain was working so i started. I thank you for your efforts and look forward to seeing the new info.
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on September 07, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
First off the binnacle

Main casing
260mm diameter
140mm height

Rim
45mm from top off casing

Shroud
130mm height at the back
The gap at the front is 240mm
The shroud is fitted inside the binnacle casing

The balls are both 85mm in diameter, the brackets holding them are 110mm out from the binnacle and the part on the binnacle is 50mm deep. The bracket was 30mm wide

The compass was a 150mm in diameter, the ring supporting the compass was 220mm in diameter.

Wheel Next.


Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on September 07, 2008, 11:45:03 AM
Now the wheel

Diameter across the spokes 840mm
The rim was 580mm outside, 480mm inside
Handles were 130mm long
Diameter of central hub 135
Rim was 55mm thick

Cabinets next
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on September 07, 2008, 11:52:19 AM
Cabinet

I did not measure the doors or drawers just the basic size, if you want those dimensions I can get them.

Width 1130mm
Height 920mm
Depth 590mm
It has an edge around the top which is 20mm higher than the surface. The toe board at the bottom is 60mm back from the front

Seat next

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on September 07, 2008, 12:03:56 PM
Seat

Width 1235mm
Depth of seat 550mm
Height of the back 430mm
Height to top of seat 940
Height to step 270mm
Width of step 300mm
Height of drawers under seat 470 (did not measure the draws).


If you want any more information let me know and I will see if I have it. If you want bigger pictures PM me your snail mail and I will post them to you.

Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on September 07, 2008, 01:35:09 PM
Thanks Brian, these details are perfect the binacle i made is close enough for me it's just a little under size for scale but my Captain & crew are under scale by the same amount so it works for me.
Much appreciate the effort on my behalf Brian  O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on October 31, 2008, 09:56:14 AM
This might be a strange request, can anyone tell me what is used on the floors in the bridge on modern Tug's, is it checker plate, Lino ,Timber  or what please ? At the moment i have appropriate scale timber flooring printed & cut to shape.
Look forward to any and all replies.
Damien.
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: toesupwa on October 31, 2008, 03:00:01 PM
This might be a strange request, can anyone tell me what is used on the floors in the bridge on modern Tug's, is it checker plate, Lino ,Timber  or what please ?

Crowley's Scout has raised dimple lino flooring (could be tiles) in the wheelhouse.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1811364
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: chingdevil on October 31, 2008, 05:06:02 PM
The pictures I posted above, show that this tug has vinyl  fitted to the bridge


Brian
Title: Re: Tug bridge pic's
Post by: Damien on October 31, 2008, 09:38:33 PM
 <:( <:( <:( oooop's not very observant am I.   the scale floor boards will work, i'll pretend it's imitation timber vinyl.
Thanks Toes & Brian
Damien.