Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: Jimmy James on August 02, 2008, 01:08:11 pm
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These are the requested pictures of the Briganteen Freebooter under sail on our lake.
Jimmy
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Wow, wow and thrice wow.
How big is she?
8) 8)
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Hello,
Very, very realistic, looks fabulous !!!.
Thanks for sharing.
John. O0 O0 O0
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Superb and so realistic i thought I was going to get nabbed by the pirates!!!!!
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Freebooter Spec's
LOA 45 inches, Total Hight 44 " (keel to main truck), Hull 34" Draught 9", Beam 9"
Control 4 Channel HiTec 40 meg (ie; 1 Rudder 2 Square sails, 3 Fore & Aft sails, 4 Guns)===
All sails can be reefed using jack-line reefing or furled for Foul weather sailing (max Force 5/6 when fully reefed down,, the photos show her in a force 4 to 5)
5 of the guns can fired, ( the 18 pounder "chase Gun" or 4 of the 18 pounder carronades)
I know the next question I will be ask is how do you fire the guns.. the answer is simple ...you set sail for your local frendly Tesco's and secure a bag of party poppers (£2.00 for bag of 50) then return to your home port !) dismember one of the poppers and remove the firework (( Should I mention here that I take no responsebilty for blown off fingers etc; Use common scense and don't pull the string???) Drill a small hole (1.5mm) in the breach of the gun and feed the string through the hole from the inside ...attach the string to a suitably mounted survo ..and bang away ... for added smoke add a little talc
Jimmy (Freebooter)
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cool 8)
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To TT
Wait tell you see the next one called "Firedrake" She's a Frigate cir. 1650's ish 3 masts sprit top sail and lateen mizzen 38 gun's
Jimmy (Freebooter)
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She is even better when you see her on the lake. I have just joined the same club and I love her. I haven't seen the guns firing though, hint, hint!
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All things come to those who wait
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Freebooter
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Patience is a virtue.........( and one I don't possess!!!). I can't comment on how good they are if I haven't seen for myself! :} :} :D <:(
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You Get rid of your [ L ] plates and I might put on a firework display for you and Mark maybe when I finish "Reever" %) :-)) ;)
Freebooter
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Check Yachts and Sail section1 "Rigging tool"
Freebooter
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Just had to look at this again ,gives me inspiration . Well done again Jimmy .
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Thank you Dave, :-)
Its nice to know other people enjoy your work, I have great fun building model sailing ships and even more fun sailing them. People say of me that when I build a model I never finish it and basically thats true I allways like to tinker with them to make them look and sail more realistically to me thats half the fun of model making :-))
Freebooter
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In answer to your question Freebooters hull is Glassfiber, It was an X-mass present about 6 or 7 years ago Bought from Mobile Marine (Just the Bare Hull) I beleve they still supply the hull but haven't a clew to the cost She sails extreamly well, has a good turn of speed and is a very good heavy weather boat when reefed down
Jimmy :-))
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Jimmy's photos.... :-)
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Ah finaly pics from teh Firedrake :) very nice ship Jimmy !
Can you give some more details on it ?
The Lateen Mizzen is interesting is it controlled via the sheet from the aft boomkin ?
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I must say this model is amazing, I wish there would be models like those on this forum around where I live. I know someone has some nice boats, but it's not often you have the chance to see them.
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"Fire Drake", Barque rigged Privateer 36 Gun's Mid 1600's
Hull was a gift toy Pirate Ship "Kings Ransome", Razzed with two & a Half inches chopped off the poop and Quarter Deck and 1 inch cut off the hight of the Foc'le, the Beak head was lengthened by 2" and the head rails were made of lead strips (much easer to work with than laminated wood) and an extra 10 oz of lead was added right aft to keep her from Griping (The hull comes with a cast brass ballast keel that bolts to the keel) The original gun ports were sealed up and new ones were cut on the main deck Frigate stile (4 guns on each side can be fired using party poppers to give a bang and a servo to pull th strings) The motor and propshaft were removed (Poor quality and leaked badly)
Sail control is by 2 x 100/1 geared motors with the shafts comming through the deck and a capstain barrel fitted too the shaft (Made from small wooden drawer knobs "handles") The one mounted on the fore deck Controls the fore sails and the spirit sails... The one mounted on the quarter deck controls the main sails ... The lateen mizzen is self tacking..
Power is suppled by a single 6V x 3700 battery pack from Modelpower this lasts approx 6 hrs... All sails can be furled and/or reefed using jackline reefing And a much larger rudder was fitted LWL is 29" LOA is 40"(Boomkin to Bow Spirit... The boomkin reeves in for transport)She's a good sailor for the rig and can make about a point to windward.
Freebooter :-))
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http://www.mobilemarinemodels.com/acatalog/Schooner.html £36.45
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More..... :-)
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Do you own, did you make both ships and are they based on the same hull?
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Dueller
"Freebooter" The Brigantine Was built on a much modified hull acquired from Mobile Marine (The keel was extended by 3" and the extention is made entirely of lead. The shape of the forefoot was changed and deepend and the beakhead and headrails added)
The Barque "Fire Drake" is shown in two stages of the build ..I didn't like the way the headrails looked at first, so they were changed to give a more rounded look. Two of the pictures show her sailing under a temporary trials rig (sprite topsail, fore and main topsails and courses and lateen mizzen) She proved to be very fast but a bit slack in stays and she tended to gripe (lift her rudder and become hard to steer)when running before the wind. To overcome this the main mast was moved aft 2" and 10 oz of lead was fixed in the hull as far aft as I could get it. The spritsail was added and the fore and main T'gallant's this gave a better balance... She know sails quite well but because of the type of rig is not very close winded only at best about 1 point into the wind ... having said this she tacks and wears very handily and is great fun to sail... Also being one of a kind she ensights a lot of comments and attention when sailing :-))
Hope this answers your questions
Jimmy
De Freebooter ok2
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"Fire Drake"The Finished model has light gangways fitted between the quarter deck and the foc'le and a bulwark 17th century Frigate stile which changes the profile some what wile this isn't strictly accurate time wise as she's a Privateer not a Naval vessel {:-{ so I can fit her out the way I want to and don't have to stick to the Navy Lists of the time. There were hundreds of vessels sailing under a Letter of Marque ( License from the Crown) to attack enemy shipping and some were fitted for more than 50 guns and there are no descriptions of the vessels or their Riggs so who can say I'm wrong
Freebooter O0
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I hope your bringing her to Wicksteed Jimmy!
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Martin
I see its on the 29th of May But where is Wicksteed and how far is it from Lynn? (Is there a post code to set up my GPS) Even more important is where do they sail ? A square rigger needs room to ware and tack and all my boats need between 8" to 12" of water just to float! Can I get the car close to the Lake/Pond or Pool to unload?
Jimmy
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Martin
Try my best to make it. If I can I'll bring a couple of boats along. Never been to Wicksteed Before so will be a new one for me, Any B&B's close by>
Jimmy
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Found this info on Wicksteed Park
WICKSTEED PARK
BARTON RD KETTERING
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
NN15 6N
Camping site bookings 01536 512 475
If like me you navigate by GPS the post code is a great help Freebooter :-))
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Martin
Had a look at the lake at Wicksteed this morning... It's a long walk fron the parking area or are we allowed to cross the R/R line and unload at the lake??? or do they have some trollys???
Jimmy
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Wonderful photos! You know, when I see a model like this, then I realise that mine are a load of C- -P !!Why do I bother?
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Nord zee
Model Ships are always worth building and looking at, Be it the roughly shaped lump of wood with a leaf for a sail that some youngster sails in a puddle, to a highly sophisticated all singing and dancing model costing Thousands of Pounds ,,,Somebody loves it and took the time and trouble to build it
AS For Mine You don't want to see them close up.. {:-{ they get sailed 2 or 3 times a week in all weathers and are looking a bit weather-beaten and battered like the hard working ships they are- :((-- Between the normal wear and tear of sailing and the knocks and bumps of loading and unloading they are not pretty little sailing ships with dainty fittings --- but are banged up old sailors that have seen a hard life :-))
Freebooter
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Jimmy's photos. :-)
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Thanks Martin
Jimmy
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The above drawings show how I control the yards and sails on my square riggers and how to make a simple 3 position switch for controlling a powerful deck capstain
Freebooter
Jimmy :-)) ok2
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Requested photos of topsail schooner Wyvern
Jimmy
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The above 4 photos of "Wyvern" topsail Schooner were posted because of the several requests I have received asking about the rig used to tack the overlapping jib...
These are early photos when she still had a raised main hatch, she, has since been modified and the hatch is now flush with the deck but the sail control is unchanged (I like my controls on deck where I can get at them)
Control is by 2 quarter power servos mounted on the underside of the hatch with the sail arm's exposed on deck,--- The after servo controls the main & fore sails it is a single arm servo mounted on the centre line and is connected directly to the fore and main booms (a bowser on the booms allowes the sheets to be adjusted)
Control to the Staysail and the Jib is via a double arm servo (this allows a push me, pull you sheet arrangement) the Stay sail is boomed and the sheets Port & Starb'd are attached to the sail arm.... The Jib sheets are run the same way except, because of the extra length of sheet needed a 2 fold Dutchmans Purchase is used (Sheet runs from the clew of the sail to the arm then forward through a block or eye back to the arm then back forward and is made fast with a bowser ... this rig gives you 3 times as much movement and allows you to use an overlapping Jib...
Jimmy :-))
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Sail control of 1 or more overi lapping jibs
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can you tell how much torque your jib servo has ? i`m using a double purchase loop on my jibs whith a free running clew and i already get troubles with having a lot of drag (2 loops f1 for jib and one for flying jib) and stalling the servo when sailing in high winds (the servo also controls the foremast square sails on my Brig)
i`m definitely contempating a seperate jib servo for my next ship !
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Phillip
You can get Servos with a 17kg pull and metal gears that are the same size as a normal servo But a lot more powerful ...a mail order company here in England sells them (www.howesmodels.co.uk UK phone number 01865 848000 ( for international try 0044 1865 848000) They are closed on Wednesdays & Sundays ...Price in UK is £15.00 used to be £29.00 but has gone down lately .....I don't know how much that would be in your currency......... With the small size models you build 1 or 2 of these should eat the job
Hope this helps :-))
Jimmy
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Deck Fittings and jib rigging
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Topsail schooner Wyvern
Jimmy
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Rudder controls and main & fore sail servo control arm ....Jib and staysail control arm hidden under the boats
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Hi Jimmy James,
I like the way the servo sail control arms blend into the deck clutter so as you have to really look to spot them.
This system of sail control has always bothered me as spoiling the look of an otherwise fine vessel but you have carried it off admirably :-))
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Greggy
Thank you very much kind sir.. :-).. I allways disliked Leads and rope work hidden down below where a snagged or broken sheet can spoil a days sailing .. {:-{.on real ships they are always to hand and anyway :-))from 6 feet away you can't see them... I build my ships to sail the way any good seaman would do it ---Simple and straight forward...Aboard ship, in my experance fancy complicated rigg's go wrong and kill people and or wreck ships. :-))
Jimmy
Freebooter
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The answer is that the guns are all mounted on a false section of decking that lifts off to allow ease of reloading ...this is something new that I am trying out and is still very much in the prototype stage... If you are going to Wicksteed I hope to be there on the Saterday and will have two or three vessels with me :-))
Jimmy
Freebooter
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Mon 22 May 2010 Eaton Park Norwich ...Pirates plundering the lake!!! where was the Navy??? >>:-(
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Freebooter
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Proof of a Buccaneering Raid on hapless shipping in the Norwich lake ... Where was the Navy???...
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This is Believed to the Flag Ship of a Privateering Flotilla of some 6 or 7 vessels believed to be based somewhere on the East Angilan coast... Two of these vessels along with a Steam Iron Clad are thought to be the vessels used in the raid on shipping at Wicksteed park last week
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Please advise on any sightings of these vessels
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These Photos Kindly taken by Tony H. of the fat pointy thing fame during a raid at Eaton Park
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Freebooter
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More vews at Eaton Park By
Tony H
Freebooter
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Topsail schooner with the topsail set ... Sorry about the angle we are trying to get a better one...
But rain and squalls stopped play
Freebooter
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looks good :) do you have any troubles with the Jib not setting propperly with teh fore braces and bowlines ?
I dropped Somers just now and she`s all in a sorry state.. looks like she had a brush with a squal, the foretopgallant mast went by the bord taking all teh stays and jibs with it.. now i`m cleaning up the wreakage..
My ships seem to take the strongest beating in storage and transport...
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Phillip
I cut my jib's Yankee fashion (high in the foot) so they don't foul the Braces and Bow lines ( this is one of the advantages of running the braces Cutter stile ie: to the bow spirit as they are mostly clear of sails ) :-))
I too find I get more damage in transport to and from the lake side than I ever get from sailing {:-{ it's just one of those things no matter how you try something allways gets snagged or fouled or gets knocked and broken.....but other than locking the model up in a bullet proof glass case I don't know of anyway to stop the transport damage.
But no drought we will know get a lot of suggestions from our readers ok2 (transport boxes are too Big, expensive, Heavy & take up to much room...
Jimmy
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New addition to the fleet... The Armed 18 century lugger "Wolfshead"
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Freebooter O0
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Rog
I'll try to post you some pictures of her running closed reefed.
Jimmy
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Ah great :) i was just trying to understand how the reefing of teh sails work !
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Phillip
I have some diagrams of Jack line reefing which is the systime I allways use on square riggers and usually use on fore and afters (some times I use slab reefing on fore & afters)
I'll try to get it posted by tomorrow night
Jimmy
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To put in a reef, slack the jeers and the lifts ... this will lower the yard slightly....lift the cringles on each side of the sail and hook them to the yard ... this is all you have to do to reef the sail ....To make every thing tidy and seaman like reeve the reefing pennet through the jack line on the front of the sail then over the yard and through the jack line on the back of the sail...keep lacing it back and forth over the yard and tie off at the end ...I often replace the reefing pennet with a pipe cleaneror a bit of fuse wire
1 - 2 or 3 reefs can be put in a sail ... when you've done it once ore twice it only takes about 1 minet to put a reef in
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Jimmy
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Hey Captain Jimmy James.......that second .jpg below......on my 24" monitor appears to be sailing into my office as a real vessel & not scaled down.... ...congratulations :-)) ....Derek
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Derek
>:-o Sorry about that, {:-{ It's those pesky Pirates they get everywere --- this morning they boarded an innocent yacht sailing down on the lake --- :embarrassed: you should have heard the screams comming from the poor little Barbie Doll sun bathing on the foredeck {:-{ %% %)...
Freebooter :-))
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This is the way I rig my deadeyes ...If I use shop bought ones I redrill the holes too 1.5mm... On most rigging jobs I thread the rigging through a needle or at least stiffen the end with glue I then setup the deadeyes on the shrouds and chain plates... and then reeve off the lanyards. I find this is the easiest way for ME to get the correct tension
Jimmy
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{-) {-) Captain Jimmy ...I see you recycle paper which is good :-)) ....
but what is ....... www.timiloronrqsonmarketiug.com
{:-{ ....Derek
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Bin watching Star Gate Universe (Yep I'm a Sci Fy Buff) on Sky TV on Tuesday nights and missed one.... someone sent me info. on how to retrieve that episode which I must have inadvertently coped on one of my diagrams
Sorry about that, My Daughters & Granddaughters say it's down to old age, The Boss says it's down to amount of Mead & Rum ... I say its down the the lack of Mead & Rum Mm-mm... also Malt whiskey and Gin ..Wine and other Brain lubrication fluid.
Hic!!! Jimmy %) ;) %% :-))
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Really good ,Jimmy. You should be proud of y,self ,some of those shots could easily have come out of a movie .good on yer ,take a turn ,and have a tot .
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Dave 301
It's nice to get a pat on the back, But I don't really deserve it, all I do is muddle through the building of a model the way I think it should be...My models are almost completely scratch built without plans (Those are mostly In My Head)or measurements ...often only from a picture in a book or a photo ... Thats why when people ask me for dimensions I have to go and find a yardstick and as for scale I call it back seat scale (it fits on the back seat of my car) ...As for the brilliant photos of my models ,,,the out of focus ones are the ones I took (I can't take photos for toffee) The really good ones like the one of "Freebooter"trying to run you down Were taken by Rob Our club secretary (In a set of waders up to his wast for that shot) Juley/ Mark & Roy also club members Took smashing shots as did Roger & Tony H from Essex. And not to forget our very own Martin from Mayhem..So you see I can only take a bit of credit for shaping and painting some bits of wood and tying on some string and bits of cloth . not for the photos
But I Will have a tot thank you
Jimmy
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hi jimmy need to press gang crew for black rose ,any ideas? ..........Larry
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Larry
Lately I have been using figures Called (TUBE AVENTURE PIRATES this consists of 7 figures, a cannon. some powder barrels and a skeleton for £6.99 from our local kids toy shop The company that makes them is The Figures are about 50mm tall (about 2" in real money)
TOBAR The Old Aerodrome Beccles Norfolk NR34 7SP
www.tobar.co.uk
if you look In the Thread on Yachts and Sail R&D (18th Century Lugger ) all the crew om "Wolfs Head " are theses figures...
Hope this helps :-))
Jimmy
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thanks for info , BUT , the crew members are discontined , {:-{ Larry.
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Larry
I was down my local shop this morning and on the off chance had a look there were 3 Pirate tubes left if you want one Ill post it to you £6.99 + postage
Jimmy
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thank you jimmy have given up on crew, working now how to rig sails to RC, cheers Larry.... O0..
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but whos going to sail your boat ? need crew members !
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No worry's Larry they won't go to waste I can always use them on the next model unless ----- anybody else needs them????
OK Gang,
Anybody looking to sign on a crew, 7 figures, compleat with peg leg & a crutch, cutsasses, & pistol's (50mm tall) 1 long gun, 2 barrels & a skeleton.... Some of them are crewing the 18th century Lugger in Yachts & Sail R&D so you can see the motley crew
Freebooter
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This is Wyven in a new suit of sails Sunday 7 March 2011 Our club changed lakes Early in the new year Courtesy of Middleton Aggregates (Nice Lake) out in the wilds but no fish or fishermen
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Sorry still havn't got any pix of her with the square top sail set ... its just been too windy
Jimmy
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HI JIMMY. what a cracking picture of brig wyven,
had black rose out on sunday on a tether but on edge when swaul hit her as picture shows....but fun to sail . i also thing of new sail suit abit more mass and
closer to detail...... may seeking more ideas..........CHEERS LARRY ,,,
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Larry looks Hairy
in conditions like that I would take the mizzen and foretop sail off and if she heels to much, reef or take in the main topsail this is a 16th century rig youv'e got so the sails were not reefed but were shortended down to the courses and then the bonnets ( 1 or 2 section's of sail laced to the bottom or the fore and main course) you don't have bonnets on your sails so the easy way to do it is to make a smaller sail for rough conditions)
Jimmy
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THANK YOU JIMMY i will give it a try LARRY....
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Larry at least she came up right and you got her back with no damage... ( good thinking the safety line) Half the job is knowing when to reef , when to take in sail , and when not to sail, being a good seaman and a good ships master is knowing the limitations of your vessel and her rig. and that only comes with experance .so use good old common sense....As a rule of thumb the best sailing conditions are 6 to 12 kits (about ( 8 to 14 Mph) Beaufort wind scale 3 to 4) most smaller vessels will struggle in more that so why risk your vessel in Scale Gale, Storm or Hurrican conditions thats just poor seamanship
If you need some help you only have to ask
Jimmy
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At Wicksteed I was ask by 3 or 4 people how I did the Filigree decorations (Sailors Call it Ginger work) on my model boats when I said it was very simple and any one can do it I don't think they believed me So here's the deep dark secret ... It's done with a paint called CERNE RELIEF by Pebeo. You can get it from most art shops... it is used for working on glass and comes in Gold, Red Gold, Silver, Copper & Black... the small tubes have a very small nozzle I have used then for adding rivets to ships doing gold buttons ,Gold epaulet's, making tricorn hats ,belt buckels as well as ginger work, here are some photos on how it's done
Jimmy
(http://s3.postimage.org/fmbr37ic/Cerne_Relief.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fmbr37ic/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/fmnbumys/Nozzel.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fmnbumys/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/fmywm2f8/Writing.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fmywm2f8/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/fn76asw4/Gold_Ginger_work.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fn76asw4/)
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(http://s3.postimage.org/fud64xxg/Copper.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fud64xxg/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/fus1z2dg/Ginger_work_on_Fire_Drake.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fus1z2dg/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/fvz1y37o/After_decorations.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fvz1y37o/)
I Hope this explaines how it's done ...On a good day it dries in half an Hour to a hard rubbery finish this means you can easily build up layers to make hats, peg leg's ,cross belts tools & weapons
Jimmy
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Blimey!
Excellent, and thanks for letting us in on the secret, now lets get some of that paint..
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Hi Jimmy ,they have the Brig ,Kathleen may in the Albert dock in Liverpool ,and another whose name escapes me ,two of us have booked a trip on her for the ISLE O MAN race in August I think ,had to show a boat cert ,and shipping gear ,plus 50 quid .but Jimmy you would love the site of these magnificent vessells .a guy from some organisation took pics ,am trying to get some ,
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That's a great idea Jimmy. Can you tell us about it's lasting properties and where you wouldn't advise it's use please.
Regards
ken
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Brilliant.......Now I can get on with my Blandford.......mind you I bet it takes some practice to perfect!!!
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Dave, love to see the pix
Kenny, I 've even used it as the square caps on cannon that fire ,I use it a lot on crew members to build up coats, hats, beards, long hair (Remember it was only in the early 19 hundreds that the British seaman gave up wearing his hair in a Que (Pig tail) also this paint is exultant for filling holes and gaps
Footski , Its not hard to do just take your time if your unsure draw off what you want to do in pencil then go over the pencil marks ,remember you can layer this stuff ... I make Figure heads from it for some boats
Jimmy
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Please let me know how you get on with it ... I keep finding more and more uses for it
Jimmy
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Gun turret off an old turret ship, all the rivet's and the raised work is taken stright from the tube the ladder is made from staples (mini staples make good ladder rungs and hand Holds)
(http://s1.postimage.org/23z7lirwk/Turret_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/23z7lirwk/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/23zawlgw4/Turret_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/23zawlgw4/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/23zhiquv8/Turret_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/23zhiquv8/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/23zmhcwck/Turret_4.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/23zmhcwck/)
Hope this helps
Jimmy
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Freebooter and the Rain at Wicksteed
(http://s2.postimage.org/1uevyiejo/Freebooter_at_Wicksteed.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1uevyiejo/)
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(http://s3.postimage.org/1o6kqgfno/Freebooter_close_hauled.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1o6kqgfno/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/1o77vzakk/Freebooter_in_the_river.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1o77vzakk/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/1o8x2v4uc/Freebooter_out_bound.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1o8x2v4uc/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/1oaaozjno/Fore_course_Bowlines.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1oaaozjno/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/1oam9qz44/out_bound_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1oam9qz44/)
I hope these are the photos you wanted . I'll Post Wolfs Head pix under 18 century Lugger add to the fleet
jimmy
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(http://s3.postimage.org/20gsdn58k/Boat_stow.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20gsdn58k/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/20gyzsj7o/out_bound_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20gyzsj7o/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/20hxq2tl0/Capstain_and_sail_arm.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20hxq2tl0/)
Hope these were what you want (you can see how the boat covers the sail arm)
Jimmy
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(http://s1.postimage.org/jg6wjpz8/at_The_seabuoy.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jg6wjpz8/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/jh0o7yv8/Broard_Reach_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jh0o7yv8/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/jhzei98k/Outbound_pass_the_lights.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jhzei98k/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/jit66i4k/Capstain_and_sail_arm.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jit66i4k/)
Taken last thurs at the lake light,, airs ...Details of the capstan leads and out riggers
Jimmy
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Here are the requested pictures of Fire Drake as she looked when first given to me (As the Pirate ship Kings Ransom) and as she looked when I finished with her.
She's out of commission at the moment as I knicked a capstan off her for the Splinter
Jimmy
BEFORE
(http://s1.postimage.org/l6q8g0bgr/Kings_Ransom.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l6q8g0bgr/)
(http://s1.postimage.org/tmkeb93pn/Kings_Ransom_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tmkeb93pn/)
(http://s3.postimage.org/wng2ydijj/Kings_Ransom_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wng2ydijj/)
AFTER
(http://s4.postimage.org/tbn5yv0o9/Close_vew_of_spritsails.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tbn5yv0o9/)
She no longer spreads T'Gallants
(http://s4.postimage.org/gn6nkeyp5/Fire_Drake_Furled_t_gallants.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gn6nkeyp5/)
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What a wonderful job you have done on a bit of a Mickey Mouse sailing ship, congratulations. It proves that nothing is beyond redemption!
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GOOD MORNING JIMMY,
ANOTHER NICE BUILD WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE THAT BOOK ? CHEERS LARRY ........
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Larry & Unfinished Nautilus
Guess what
I have just been given another one (same hull "Kings Ransom" these cost around £250.00 New and have quite a good hull shape once you chop the Spanish stile poop and Foc'le off ) So once I finish the Splinter (The Barquentine)I shall have to think of a different way to chop this one around and make it sail
Jimmy
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(http://s12.postimage.org/i8zxf9psp/Hawk_amongst_the_Prey.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i8zxf9psp/)
(http://s9.postimage.org/u66reo563/Lovers_Basket.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/u66reo563/)
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Another brilliant piece of re-engineering re-building there Captain Jimmy..........
The 'after' images look near life like..... :-)) Derek
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HI JIMMMY,
ANOTHER MASTER PIECE ,
not very good with tying knots and bends can you recmend a book , or article on the subject.........STILL LEANING LARRY......
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TRY THESE
THE ART OF RIGGING ISBN-10: 0-486-26343-6
tHE ARTS OF THE SAILOR ISBN-10: 0-486-26440-8
JIMMY
(http://s7.postimage.org/8i9ybd2lz/rigging_books.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8i9ybd2lz/)
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Beaufort wind scale
(http://s9.postimage.org/ihjefc0zv/beaufort_mph.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ihjefc0zv/)
New by Jamie
Inshore
When lighting flashes and thunder rolls
Like the God of Storms is playing bowls
Stow your courses and reef your mizzen
And beat offshore like your fleeing prison
Clear the headland and the reef
And make your offing like a fleeing thief
It’s only when in waters wide
T’will be safe for Jack to turn and ride
Aaaah!!!! Me thinks’ the Lady
Though small and fair
Has a rye sense of humour
That far travels hath lain bare
Jamie
(http://s10.postimage.org/e8ncxp12d/Weather_Rimes.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e8ncxp12d/)
Jimmy
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HI JIMMY ,
May take this moment to wish you and your famliy a very merry christmas and a happy new year ,
and thank you for help and interest with my models , you shuold write that book . good luck and cheers.....
brenda and larry.... :-))
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Thankyou Larry
Heres wishing You and Brenda a splendid Yule Tide and a Happy New Year
Health & Safety and The Church have really spoilt the Hol's when this was a Pagan Holiday there were Fires in the fields with tables filled with food
and barrels full of Ale and Mead and nobody was ever turned away
Now H&S has banned the Fires & The Church was never Keen on Pagan Rites and look at all the Fun an Old Pagan like me is missing ...I've even got to walk 2 miles to the Pub
Jamie/Jimmy
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Larry
I found this Photo of Freebooter shortend Down (for strong Winds) The Top Gallant (T-gallant ) is furled and the main topsail has been struck. This greatly reduces the windage and allows her to be sailed in up to 17 kt to 20 kt winds (Frorce 5 to 6)
(http://s18.postimage.org/vsujq8i9h/Freebooter_Shortend_down.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vsujq8i9h/)
Also included is a Photo of Huntress (this was the wrecked hull of Norsky Love 70 gun ship o the Line (Danish) which I Razzed to make a 40 gun Frigate She used to sail very well but being 20 odd years old she is now in Honorable retirement
(http://s15.postimage.org/evn3euh5j/Huntress_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/evn3euh5j/)
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HI JIMMY,
Happy new year, what a good start , and not a pagen virgin in site , but some real ale down the pub :-)) :-)) :-)) LARRY...
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Hey jimmy, Huntress is a realy nice ship, but why retire her ? :) whats the reason behind the strongly curved foot in your squares ? (i mean i can see it`s used to clear the stays, but why are teh stays so out of geometry as to have to make teh sails like that ?
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Jimmy ,my friend,you,ve put some lovely pics on ,again. all the very best to you ,may you have a good sailing season .Dave ,
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MB,Dave301& Larry
As I said the hull was of a static model Norsky Love 70 guns but the hull was only single planked and the chains were allready fitted when I started rigging her I found the chains were in the wrong positions for a working model so I had to make adjustments also rather than shorten the masts to carry less sail I opted to cut the Topsail & T'gallants high in the foot , This gave me a tall rig which looked good ,sailed very good in light W/x and was also able to carry sail in moderately heavy W/x
Jimmy
Happy New Year All, Larry I converted as many virgins as I could It's you Christians that haven't held up your end
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Its been too ruddy cold to work on the "Splinter"so I have been spending time on the topsail schooner "Wyven" shes been sailing with out setting her Square topsail for over 2 years ( I nicked the winch to put in Fire Drake) so as this is a job I could do in the warmth of the front room and with the Bosses permition Hear go's
(http://s18.postimage.org/alzo94s4l/Hawk_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/alzo94s4l/)
(http://s15.postimage.org/8jky6a91j/Wyven_with_Topsail_Set.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8jky6a91j/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/q3rrqknyz/Wyvern_with_topsail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q3rrqknyz/)
The first shot is with the topsail furled (as she's been for the last 2 years
The next two are with the topsail rigged awaiting sheets and bow lines
more pix to follow in the next few days
Jimmy
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oop's Sorry This ones better
Jimmy
(http://s7.postimage.org/5cd30xr2v/Wyvern_with_topsail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5cd30xr2v/)
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Thanks Captain Jimmy....... :o ...my neck was getting cramped turning to the right....or should I note to STBD....... {-) .....
Are the channel markers for model vessels?................Derek
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Hi Jimmy'
Another little gem, one day i will get to get one to sail like yours , you could blow out the water right now {-) O0 Larry...
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Channel markers
Our club useses the IALA A bouyage system and the bouy's are set out permintly excpt midwinter, we take them them in for o'haul and repair and to stop ice dammage
Larry you have but to turn up
Jimmy
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HA ha ,JIMMY ,
One day , but O so far away . Larry
(http://s17.postimage.org/8jdjwrl9n/pirate.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8jdjwrl9n/)
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I'm off to the Bahamas for a sailing Hol . June & July,Lovely, The trouble is the crew I'm sailing with... They would make any selfrespecting Buccaneer run for shelter ... Their leader is an Irish wench "The Boss"she alone would put the fear of the Gods into any man and she's got 3 daughters and 2 Granddaughters and a friend to back her up thats 7 of them and only Me and my son in law >>>Help !!!
Any way heres some more pix of Wiven
(http://s13.postimage.org/4uuuaz29v/The_Topsail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4uuuaz29v/)
(http://s15.postimage.org/dwrr7jtqv/Fore_Topsail.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dwrr7jtqv/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/gw47yp2zv/Temp_new_capstan.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gw47yp2zv/)
Jimmy
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Heres some more pix Iv'e streamlined the rig and put out riggers on the fore sail sheets to keep them clear of the shrouds . This puts a lot less strian on the rig
Jimmy
(http://s16.postimage.org/cdo1qboo1/Vew_from_6_feet.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cdo1qboo1/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/duhh8246j/Deprsser.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/duhh8246j/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/bgzjh1prf/New_Capstan.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bgzjh1prf/)
(http://s18.postimage.org/ldi2wwr79/Out_Rigger.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ldi2wwr79/)
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All the Screw heads will be painted with a colored varnish so you will be pushed to spot them at all also all the new wood work will be painted (or varnished) but the decks ,bulwarks & ship sides will only be touched up ,,, After all these are honorably battle scars and the signs of a hard life I think they add to the ships looks and character not detract from it
Jimmy
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couple of photos on the lake top sail set last sunday
(http://s18.postimage.org/hcxinse9h/Close_Hauled.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hcxinse9h/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/kdnjvt4bv/Wyvern_Top_Sail_Set.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kdnjvt4bv/)
I've done nothing on the Splinter yet ,sorry about that but its been too cold for the workshop
Jimmy
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Arrrr,Jimmy ,ya work is top class as usual ,is that right yer sailin off for a while ,lucky you ..i got meself a nice gaff rig cutter to sort out ,.
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She sails realy well and is a lot hander in stays and with the extra sail area shes a lot faster ( because the yards can be braced up so hard she also dosn't loose much ground to windward) and sails about 4 points off the wind , so I am realy happy with her though I will make one or two mod's like extending the out riggers about 1/2 " to keep the sheet clear of the standing rigging
You will have to post some pix of your cutter
Jimmy
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(http://s16.postimage.org/nir5p6fxt/Flags_and_pendants.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nir5p6fxt/)
Flags and Pendants
By Jimmy James
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Thanks for the diagram of your flags and pennants.
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No Problems Brooks
Ive been developing this system for 30 odd years and find its the easiest and most efficient of all the ones that Ive tried the Flags and Pendants are less likely to foul and at most times look like real flags ... Its not perfect but the best I have been able to come up with. The real thing is to find light weight ribbon it doesn't matter if it's a bit transparent (Real Flags can be transparent when they are dry)
Jimmy
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Rough Pix of Flags & Pendants
(http://s13.postimage.org/bg061b22r/Ply_Pendant.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bg061b22r/)
(http://s10.postimage.org/b6gtemcbp/Free_Traders_House_Flag.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/b6gtemcbp/)
(http://s14.postimage.org/uzaomzsjx/House_Flag_at_the_Gaff.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/uzaomzsjx/)
(http://s18.postimage.org/4x43wrfcl/Yarded_Penant.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4x43wrfcl/)
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(http://s16.postimage.org/f113hncyp/Ribbon_Pendent.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f113hncyp/)
(http://s14.postimage.org/ni6ksflu5/Ribbon.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ni6ksflu5/)
The light was getting bad and I'm no Photographer
Hope you get the idea They look a lot better in the wind
Jimmy
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%% Agog with following your thread which I have only just latched onto. Looks a really great fun model. i think I have looked all over but wondered a couple of things like her overall length? about 90cm (excluding sprit)and beam (no idea). How about ballast weight/ Does she sail with an additional keel at all. I hae been considering a build like one does and I like the fore and aft design with the sail frigate era of construction.
Hope you June july sail did not run into Pirate activity!! All the best from down under.
Raynor J
Hamilton New Zealand
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Rayna Hi please read ( Sad news another loss to model boating JIMMY JAMES ) in the model boating mess deck section.
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A year later from his passing. Fair winds and beautiful sun rises, Mr. James. Your advice lives on, as does your memory, Well Done, Sir. I miss you.
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Amen.
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Fair winds and calm seas Jimmy :-)
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Every time I see a briganteen, I think of Jimmy James. 2 years gone, now, and still missed. He was always so helpful, his spirit lives on among all who help fellow modelers, I think.
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Its nice to see my old freind is still rememberd, he was a great loss to our club here in Kings Lynn. malcolm.howard
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I thought of Jimmy James this weekend, beautiful winds on the pond. Wish he was still here with us.
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o yes Jimmy ,your memories ,what a great sailor .
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I saved the sketches he posted in a folder that amounts to a modeling notebook, I often catch myself looking at them instead of what I'm looking for at the moment.
I wish he was posting more sketches.
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he pulled me out of some bad times when I cocked up ,looking at my two master brig now ,Jimmy saved her from the local skip .what a great Man .
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I still have some of his diagrams for the riggiing on my brig, what happened to his boats hope they are still being sailed regards Pete
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Sadly all the photo's on this thread have gone. Maybe deleted from the "Postimage" hosting library, renamed, or otherwise broken link connections. {:-{
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I looked at all the photos today. So they are back if you are logged on.
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Any chance of a link to the photos please Hammer.
Ned
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Ned, I don't understand, I can see them here. Not on this page but on pages 1,2,3,4,5,. I hope you are watching my IRENE build. Hammer.
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I looked at all the photos today. So they are back if you are logged on.
Thanks for that, photos now visible. It really does look a lovely model.
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Ned.......Jimmy's posted images all open manually....'click the text say open...not the box', then say OPEN
Here is an image from his posting # No 1 from August 2008 :-))
When viewing ..we should hold high a glass of beer/whiskey for a great mate now gone
RGY.....did you know Captain Jimmy back in those days?
Derek
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Does anyone have any pics of Jimmy's iron clad steamship , fascinating, pete