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Title: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 07, 2006, 10:04:30 AM

Holmsey's Arliegh Burke class destroyer Winston S Churchill  build

As I and the moderating team continually strive to look for suitable build threads to include in the Masterclass board we look at a whole range of different models made in a variety of ways.  What we are looking for is the highest standards of exellence in modelling skills combined with a well put together and informative build thread, which can then be a source of inspiration to the rest of the membership.

Most masterclasses will tend to be scratchbuilds which demonstrate the full range of modelling skills but kit based models can also be included when they meet the criteria of excellence. We already of course have a kit built model under construction on the board. The following example which caught our eye also meets the criteria as it is not only a superb example of how a kit can be put together to achieve a beautiful model but it also provides a wealth of information to inspire other members to strive for.

This should be viewed as what can be achieved and an excellent example of the skills required to produce a model from a kit and an alternative means to an end when compared with scratch built examples already on the Masterclass board.

Our warmest congratulations go to Holmsey and our thanks for sharing his build with us.

Enjoy.

Martin / Moderators - Model Boat Mayhem.
Title: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: chromedome on August 19, 2006, 03:29:25 PM
hi, are you going to use a sealed lead acid battery,or is it just for ballast?
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on August 19, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
Hi Holmsey
Looking good keep it up
whats that between the motors facing aft
Don't forget that sailing is at Hayes Marina tomorrow off the Hayes bypass
cheers
gary rowe
BPMBC
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: chromedome on August 20, 2006, 10:43:29 AM
please keep us informed of your progress.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: warspite on August 20, 2006, 11:44:30 PM
i take it the question was about the 'block' between the motors, never though of mounting the motors through 90 and bolting them horizontally, removes the need for tapering the base.

Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on September 17, 2006, 08:01:53 PM
Hi Holmsey
Missed you at the lake 2day
looking good on the Winston S C with this amount of progress she should be ready for christmas
cheers
gary rowe
BPMBC
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 01, 2006, 08:43:39 PM
I think you will find that a Bower anchor defines the location where the anchor is housed (bow) rather than the type of anchor itself - but what do I know?
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 01, 2006, 09:15:05 PM
Paul,

As a yachtsman I was taught that the bower anchor is the vessels's main anchor, normally stowed at the bow and may be one of several different types, Admiralty, Danforth, CQR, Bruce etc. However I appreciate that Admiralty pattern anchors may also be stowed at the stern see http://www.tsrye.fsnet.co.uk/Anchors.htm. Is that what you mean? in which case small boat nomenclature would seem to differ from that used by the RN. As you have practical RN experience I'd be interested in your comments as we all learn something new every day.  :)

Colin
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on October 01, 2006, 09:38:39 PM
Dave Woolley describes the anchor as a Bower Anchor in Model Boats (January 2006) captions 8 and 9 on page 18. He says The USN describes it as "A High Holding Anchor". It is a Danforth Anchor as is commonly carried on yachts like the one I sail on. Just a bit bigger I think. It could also be described as a bower anchor because of it's location, a more generic term.

That's probably enough Bulls**t for this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 01, 2006, 09:55:00 PM
Thanks Paul, that is interesting, particularly the point about the sonar dome. You certainly wouldn't want to bounce an anchor off that! I must say I have wondered about anchors a bit as the recommended anchor size on a small yacht seems to be proportionately quite a lot bigger than those commonly fitted to larger ships, both naval and merchant. The loading on a 100,000 ton cruise ship anchor must be pretty substantial yet they are deployed as a matter of course at ports of call.

Colin
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Shipmate60 on October 01, 2006, 10:09:25 PM
If the anchor is laid correctly it is the weight of the chain on the botton which holds the ship, and acts as a damper for the motion.
The anchor should only hold the ship in rough weather.

Bob
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: DickyD on October 02, 2006, 11:09:15 AM


See what I mean , you only have to mention a word as innocent as anchor and they fill up the rest of the forum with what it should be technically called.

Doesn't change anything build still looking great. ;) ;)

                                   Richard
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Barthez on October 03, 2006, 06:47:02 PM
Chain !! you mean Cable !
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: cbr900 on October 04, 2006, 02:03:41 AM
Would it also be correct to assume that probably only about two percent of model boats actually have an anchor that goes up and down...


Roy
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: DickyD on October 04, 2006, 08:59:01 AM

Is it supposed to go up and down??   ??? ???
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 04, 2006, 09:14:05 AM
It's a bit like a submarine - what goes down doesn't necessarily come up!

Despite what has been said in earlier posts, anchor design is actually quite an interesting subject - there's a lot more to it than people think and it's always educational to know a bit about the things we are modelling.  :)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: cbr900 on October 04, 2006, 09:23:17 AM
Colin,

Not an anchor buff I'm afraid, just look at the pic in the plan and put the same sort where it says to, never had one that worked yet maybe one day...



Roy
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: chromedome on October 04, 2006, 09:59:26 AM
I learn something new in here every day,unfortunately I forget something as well  !!
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: cbr900 on October 04, 2006, 11:37:55 AM
I learn something new in here every day,unfortunately I forget something as well  !!

Yes mate and some of it is very easy to forget....... ;D ;D



Roy
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: DickyD on October 06, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
Whats easy to forget Roy ??  ??? ???
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: cbr900 on October 07, 2006, 03:54:19 AM
Some people with dogs as avatars...... ;D ;D ;D




Roy
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on October 15, 2006, 06:19:05 PM
Hi David
Your right Winston S Churchill did look the muts nuts on the water today & even without superstructure she did not get smaller when out on the water like most models do on our large water & was very manoverable looks good David at your present rate of build she should be ready for Warwick.
cheers
gary rowe
BPMBC
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on November 06, 2006, 08:14:28 PM
Hello,
How much extra ballast did you need for the correct waterline? I saw some batteries, what size 12v leads?

Thanks,
Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 06, 2006, 08:27:06 PM
Hi Sean
There is no additional ballast in the model yet, she is still high at the bow. There is a 6v 12ah battery in the center and a 12v 1.2ah battery just behind the gun mounting. The motors are Model Motors Direct 777s and there is a speaker just below the front superstructure. Are you looking to build one?

Any more questions please ask away!!!! :)

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on November 06, 2006, 10:41:39 PM
Yes I have a kit from psships along with a tico. I am currently building the ffg28 Boone from SSY. Just finishing the internals and float test to follow.

Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 06, 2006, 10:49:49 PM
Sean
I wish you luck. There's a lot of thinking involved but that's half the fun isn't it!!!! Have you seen this book: Warship Pictorial No. 24 'Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers' I got it from:

 http://www.pacificfront.com/

last week. It has some good detail shots in it. Paul at PSShips is very helpfull as well. He sent me a lot of info and photos!

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on November 11, 2006, 04:50:40 PM
Hello David
Many thanks for the photos
no 20mm in front of the bridge replaced by ram either side of the bridge wings and good shots of the re-fueling lines on the forward bridge.
cheers
see you tomorrow when neal h sailes his type 42
gary r
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: justboatonic on November 11, 2006, 11:57:26 PM
Hasn't the Churchill always got to have an RN officer seconded to the USN on board?

Think I read somewhere they have a 2 year tour of duty. Also think the Churchill is only the 4th or 5th USN ship named after a 'foreign' (to them!) national(but may be wrong on the number).
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Barthez on November 12, 2006, 08:38:20 AM
I thought when she was commisioned the navigation officer was an RN officer on attachment. LT Angus ESSENHIGH the son of the first sea lord.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1212911.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1212911.stm)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 12, 2006, 01:43:44 PM
To Quote Wikipedia
"Churchill is the only U.S. Navy vessel to have a Royal Navy Officer assigned to the ship's company. The U.S. Navy has a permanent U.S. Navy Officer on the Royal Navy ship, HMS Marlborough"

This should clear up the matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winston_S._Churchill_(DDG-81)

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on November 12, 2006, 03:11:27 PM
Hi Davis
Missed you at the lake today,Neal H was there with his 1/72 scale HMS Exeter its impressive and it has a rooster tail.
cheers
gary rowe
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 12, 2006, 03:56:31 PM
Gary
Did you get any photos.
I spent the day building mine.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: justboatonic on November 12, 2006, 08:51:41 PM
Hi Davis
Missed you at the lake today,Neal H was there with his 1/72 scale HMS Exeter its impressive and it has a rooster tail.
cheers
gary rowe
Bliddy hell! It must go at a fair rate of knots!
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on November 13, 2006, 09:38:14 AM
David
Yes many thanks for the pictures they were brill.
justbaotonic the rooster tail is in keeping with scale speed,Neal got it off evilbay via a chap in Lincon and the original builder was north of the border.
gary rowe
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 18, 2006, 10:15:59 PM
Looks Good Paul
We will sail them together at Kingsbury next year!!!! Are you useing your buying power to persuade Malcolme Read to start producing low vis pennant numbers. It is very hard to reproduce them.


Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on December 10, 2006, 01:47:01 PM
Hi David
Nice to see you at the lake again its a pity that the US navy had a fuel shortage today and were unable to sail still the good ol royal navy came to the rescue,hope you get your power supply sorted i know its a right pain in the bum when things go wrong.
cheers
gary rowe
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: jason.a on December 30, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
hi unmmm  yes the model uss oscar austin is from sirmar and i am happy with your choice of build ( arleigh burke)  tata
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: John W E on January 21, 2007, 02:49:48 PM
Hi there Holmsey, Just to comment on your model - it looks absolutely beautiful - really inspiring.   

I myself normally prefer to build 'greys' but my new venture is totally different - being an anchor handling tug (oil rig supply vessel).  I was quite happy building this model - until I came across your pics on this website - I cannot get this one finished quick enough - or mmmmm might put it on standby cause I am looking for Jacobin plans for HMS YORK

dont we just love this Forum sometimes.

KEEP ON BUILDING AND DOING THE GOOD WORK - very inspiring  8)

Aye
John E
BLUEBIRD

Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on January 21, 2007, 06:17:58 PM
Bluebird
I built Gloucester before this one. Great model to do with lots of little detail to get right. Let me know f you want any pics. It's on the Mayhem main site. I've got loads of pictures of York in Portsmouth in 2005/2006. I would be happy to send them to you.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: John W E on January 21, 2007, 07:20:42 PM
Hi Holmsey Ive just sent you a PM.

thanks again

John E
Aye
BLUEBIRD
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Brian_C on January 21, 2007, 07:56:34 PM
hi holmsey she,s lookin great, i like it, very much, ive got some good pics of her in english waters with a spitfire overhead, send me yr email addy and i will mail them to you, regards bri-c ;)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on January 21, 2007, 08:11:31 PM
Brian and John

Many thanks for your comments and encouragement.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: cdsc123 on January 21, 2007, 11:51:55 PM
Congrats on a fine build. I saw one of these (full-size) on the telly, it was a US documentary so everything was "as long as so many football pitches" and as "heavy as so many Jumbo jets". I've no idea what he was on about, but got the distinct impression they are big and heavy. They did not mention the top speed (I'd guess about 35kts) but they did show the wake at full tilt; they actually overtake their own wake! For a ship this size to travel at greater than hull speed it's gotta be going some. The footage of the computer controlled gun in action was very good too, I think the documentary was on the History Channel, probably one of the "Mega Structures" series. May be useful for close-up images of the ship? 
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Post by: gary r uk on February 01, 2007, 11:55:20 AM
Hi David
You never said how was Basingstoke
well at least the book shop going had a sort of useful replacement
so the sharp bit is done & the blunt bit is done just that fat bit in the middle to do then
see you sunday
cheers
gary r
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on February 02, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
Gary
Basingstoke was good but there was no one about!! They probably didn't like the weather either. Hope to be out on Sunday unless too hot/too cold/too wet/too windy/lake frozen/lake dried up/lake too wet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on February 12, 2007, 11:05:07 AM
David
the speed your going WSC will be done before my Scharnhorst
where does the honey & drinking chocolate go
fancy going to yeovil and not telling anybody
gary
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: justboatonic on April 14, 2007, 05:41:18 PM
Interesting, the mast looks mainly of solid resin. Is that the case?

Looking very good overall.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on April 14, 2007, 06:15:46 PM
Hi Justboatonic
The mast is part of PSShips fittings and contains most of the components to make the mast.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on April 14, 2007, 07:38:59 PM
Hi David
Are you going 2morrow?
The horse is all fixed now
cheers
gary r
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: spoons on June 18, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
This is a very nice looking ship, Im thinking of doing one after i finish my carrier and patrol vessel i think the burkes look like very nice ships. Keep up the good work. I have also found paul from psships/sirmar to be most helpful with all those annoying little questions.
stu
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Brian_C on June 18, 2007, 08:46:52 PM
HI AGAIN HOLMSEY, SHES LOOKIN GOOD, HERES THE REAL ONE I MAILED YOU A WHILE BACK   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on June 18, 2007, 09:55:17 PM
Hi Brian
I got those pics a while back thank you. I love the shots taken in the English Channel. The third shot is of an earlier unit. It's a shame, it was just the view I wanted.

Cheers

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: PSSHIPS on June 18, 2007, 10:24:03 PM
Looking good Dave!
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on June 24, 2007, 09:10:42 PM
Dave, what are you using for railings?  Darren
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on June 24, 2007, 09:38:05 PM
I use James Lane's brass stanchions and brass wire.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: justboatonic on June 24, 2007, 11:04:47 PM
Do you brush paint all the superstructure and fittings? Looks like there are loads of nooks and craneys so would expect spray painting to perhaps not give decent coverage unless you use an air brush as well.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on June 25, 2007, 12:07:55 AM
Thanks, I wasn't sure, but it almost looked like the wire had knots in it. Might be shadows or artifacts from the camera. I've seen some people try and make the rails look like chain, but the real thing is square tube on edge (except were there are access gates, in which case there is chain and you have that drooped nicely), The square tube looks weird up close on the real thing.

Looks like you're using Pauls resin pieces to good effect, I didn't know he made so many parts for the Burkes.

Can't wait to see it finished!

Darren
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on June 25, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
Hi Darren
I used brass wire for the rails and some very fine copper wire for the maindeck cables. James lane made the 5 rail stanchions for me. I think getting things like that is very important. Paul makes a special set of fittings for the Burke class to supplement the Sirmar fittings. They are excellent. The mast was great fun to make!!!
Paul also sent me a large amount of photos that helped to get the detail correct.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: spoons on June 30, 2007, 12:49:38 AM
She is looking fantastic mate hope mine will come out half as good.
stu
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: DickyD on June 30, 2007, 04:48:33 PM
Coat of paint makes all the difference. Looking really great.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: herby on July 01, 2007, 11:54:12 AM
She is BEAUTY!! I whis i know how to  build ship like that someday. Thumbs up.  :)

-Herkko
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Bunkerbarge on July 01, 2007, 12:25:34 PM
I wonder how many ship models there are out there that have been painted with good old Halfords finest grey and red primers!!
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: spoons on July 14, 2007, 01:34:12 PM
this really is a fantastic build, well done mate.
stu
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Shipmate60 on July 14, 2007, 01:38:27 PM
She is looking good mate,
Are the fittings Sirmar?

Bob
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on July 14, 2007, 01:51:49 PM
Hi Bob
All the fittings are either Sirmar or PSShips. The Bushmaster and STWS are scratchbuilt.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on July 14, 2007, 05:57:33 PM
david
will we be sailin with wsc tomorrow
weather will be good
wsc looks good whats the next project
gary
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on July 14, 2007, 06:15:04 PM
Hi Gary
I will be at Black Park tomorrow. Next project now being contemplated!!!!!
T22 or 23
Long OHP or Tico

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on July 14, 2007, 07:12:03 PM
david
t22 batch 3 & tico
gary
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on July 15, 2007, 02:38:53 PM
It looks very nice, but it's just sitting there!!!! Where is the wake and waves and angry fishing boats!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: gary r uk on July 15, 2007, 02:44:23 PM
hello
there was tupperwar
gary
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: tobyker on July 15, 2007, 03:12:11 PM
Saw you refer to North Camp - I lived in Fbro 10 years ago - is Kingfisher club still at the old Ford?
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on July 15, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
No, I've heard stories about boating behind The Old Ford but can find no sign of it now.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 15, 2007, 05:00:51 PM
Sorry to hear that, it used to be a thriving club and a popular venue. They built the water themselves by excavating it and filling up from the nearby river. I went to many regattas there in the 1980s.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: PSSHIPS on August 05, 2007, 08:29:05 PM
Looks stunning Dave ;D ;)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: spoons on August 06, 2007, 12:33:32 PM
That looks fantastic dave, I cant wait to start mine now it has arrived but her indoors says i have wait until we have moved.
stu
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: uboatbuilder on August 16, 2007, 10:36:36 AM
WOW!!!!! nuff said really.

I want one.

May have to pay someone a visit........ late at night... when everyones asleep.... dressed in black... with a van outside with the engine running.      ;D ;D ;D ;D    ;)

Superb work, I have to see it for real.

Grant
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: madrob on August 24, 2007, 12:01:05 PM
Cant wait to see your next build holmsey.This is stunning
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 14, 2007, 01:42:44 AM
Hello,
Do you have any pics of your bushmaster?

Thanks,
Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 14, 2007, 09:03:54 PM
Hello,
Thanks for the pics. Did you do a set of nulka launchers? They are in addition to the old srboc. Depending on what ship they are next to the srboc or between the stacks above the sliding padeyes.

Best Regards,
Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 14, 2007, 10:44:24 PM
It is tough to find updated pictures of these ships. The Burkes seem to have different configurations to its weapon systems and radar layouts from ship to ship and year to year. Most of the churchill pictures on the net seem to be 2003/04 which I think is when they started putting the nulka system on the ships. I asked more out of curosity than anything. Your build is great. I wish there was more of them on the site instead of the bismarck build.

Best Regards,
Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on September 14, 2007, 10:56:50 PM
If you speak to "Darren The Mountie" AKA Admhawk, his company do CDs of North American warships. I got one off him of WSC and it was a joy to use. There were two complete sets, one from the build and one when she was in service later. Also Paul at PSShips will help you with photos if you buy a model from him!!!
I think half the fun af modeling is in the research!

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: PSSHIPS on September 14, 2007, 11:18:02 PM
Hi Dave, Hastings already has three of mine mate, the trouble with the burke's is that they change underware more times than the preverbial, like I said to you last night, pick a ship and time and make the model around that, you can't change your model as quickly as the real ones change their underware if you know what I mean?
 Paul... ;D
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 16, 2007, 02:52:49 AM
Spinning props right! ;D
When I build my Burkes from Sirmar I would love to animate the heli. I would like to come up with some way to raise and lower a heli in a simulated landing/takeoff. I was thinking of some kind of motorized antenna like device. Maybe on the Aegis Cruiser since there is more height on the flight deck.

Best Regards,
Sean

Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on September 16, 2007, 03:19:37 AM
Spinning props are a nice touch, use the tiny pager motors, they fit nicely. The only way I know of to raise and lower is with a rod that extends out the deck attached to the bottom of the helo, the rod can also carry the wires for the motor power.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: PSSHIPS on September 16, 2007, 08:06:42 PM
Superb Dave, lets see what ya can do with this 22 of your's and the Tico you bagged ;D ;)
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: MCAT on September 17, 2007, 02:07:28 PM
Saw you at Black Park yesterday Stunning Model Mate, looks superb . great detail  will grab a better look next time your there.


Mick
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 20, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
Hello,
Looks great. Are the heli's scratch or a kit? I found some plastic kits by kangram but can't find them anymore. Good thing i bought 8 to put on all my models and at $4.00 a kit well worth it.

Sean
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on September 20, 2007, 04:37:55 PM
The SH-60s come with the semi kit, you get 1 per kit, I bought a second one. They are resin and quite well detailed.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: hastings246 on September 20, 2007, 06:53:02 PM
Hello,
I have one of Paul's semi kit of it too. Here's a pic of the plastic models I found. I have not checked the accuracy but it looks good and for the price couldn't pass it up. Great job on the heli O0

Sean

Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: BarryM on September 21, 2007, 08:51:08 AM
"Up"? - Is this a sky-hook?  :o
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Sputnikk on November 01, 2007, 03:30:39 PM
If you need any photos of the Churchill let me know. I have taken about 300 photos of her when she was built at Bath Iron works. all angels including some without the vents on the side. I have some of the photos on my site if you want to look through them to help you on your build.

Glad to help.
Eric
Homeport Model Ships
http://www.homeportmodels.com
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 01, 2007, 06:49:16 PM
Hi Sputnikk
Many thanks for your offer. I have finnished the Churchill but I am very interested in the Hue City if you have any. I am starting that one after the Cornwall.
You could give us a quote on your etched brass fret as well if you want.

Cheers

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Sputnikk on November 02, 2007, 02:43:27 AM
Sure. The ticos are great, wobbly in the water, but still. The problem with getting my parts to you is the cost of the shipping. It sometimes cost more than the product. Let me know when you are thinking about getting the part and we can talk.

Also, if anyone is interested, I was just on the Sampson today (DDG 102) and learn a lot about the new destroyer. This is the latest Ship in the US Navy, and it is in Boston through the weekend. I took 250 photos today if anyone need a photo. I will be uploading a few to my site this weekend. I will post a link to it when they are onliine.

Any questions about Homeport Models, please ask.
We are glad to help.

Eric
Homeport Model Ships
www.homeportmodels.com
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Martin13 on November 15, 2007, 10:26:34 AM
Holmsey,

What a great job you did on this model - luv your pic's. I'm tossing up wheather to build a 1/96 or 1/72 version. The problem with the larger scale is that I don't know if I can buy fittings etc, I do not believe that I have the necessary skills to completely scratch build the boat. They certainly are an impressive model.
Shipping costs are always a problem, especially when you live in Australia.

Again, great job and thanks for posting the pic's and build info.

Martin from Down Under
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on November 15, 2007, 04:25:19 PM
I'm sure Alan Pew can help you out with the fittings since he sells most of them in 1/72 and he is in Australia.

apsmods@bigpond.net.au
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Martin13 on November 16, 2007, 11:10:46 AM
Admhawk,

Thanks for the info.

 Emailed Allan last night and received a reply today.

About to send off deposit on a 1/72 scale version. Its big 2.160 Metres (84.9")

Thanks again

Martin from down Under
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 18, 2007, 01:08:46 PM
I have it on good authority that The Churchill is in Portsmouth at the moment. She could be leaving early this week. Anyone who wants to take photos of her please feel free to forward them to me and post them on the web as well. I can not get to Portsmouth this week. O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on November 18, 2007, 04:36:57 PM
Admhawk,

Thanks for the info.

 Emailed Allan last night and received a reply today.

About to send off deposit on a 1/72 scale version. Its big 2.160 Metres (84.9")

Thanks again

Martin from down Under

Glad I could help. If you go to Russ French's site, http://defencemodels.com.au/Projects/Churchill.asp You will see the 1/72 Churchill that he made. I believe he also made a lot of the fittings that Alan now sells for this model. The story about the hats is funny, what he probably doesn't know is that I got the hats for Jonathan to give out, cuz I went to Winnies commisioning!

I'm sure if you contact Russ, you will be able to see this model in person for inspiration.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on November 23, 2007, 05:57:22 PM
I managed to find a mate who went to Portsmouth this weekend. Here she is with new bumps and a Union Flag!!!!
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Hansen on February 15, 2008, 01:55:19 AM
In Europe is not problem purchase fiberglass hull for DDG 81 or DDG 51 in 1:72 scale, I have one of them home, it is hull included deck as a one piece. Beautifull job and size too.I will start work on it this summer
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: The long Build on February 15, 2008, 08:26:11 AM
Here she is with new bumps and a Union Flag!!!!
Is the Union jack down to the fact that there is a member of the Royal Navy  assigned to the ship's crew at all times" due to the ships namesake ?
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Holmsey on February 15, 2008, 09:29:34 PM
It could be but it could also be just a courtesey due to the fact she was in Portsmouth. When she came in 2001 she flew a White Ensign. Some one on here would know.

Holmsey
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
Post by: Admhawk on February 16, 2008, 12:14:49 AM
Standard operating procedure to fly the host country flag when in a foreign port.
Title: Re: Q & A - Holmsey's Winston S Churchill build
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