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Title: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on September 29, 2008, 07:33:29 pm
Not often I ask for help....but this time I need some guidance. My printer (Canon i950) started playing up so I un-installed and re-installed only for the "legend" to pop up and tell me that no printer driver is installed. Tried "Driver Detective" but not willing to pay for something that should already be there (tightwad). Any ideas please as I really get stuck without the printer. Ta. BY.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: dougal99 on September 29, 2008, 07:46:27 pm
Bryan

Have you tried re-booting since the install? Just a thought.

Doug
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: catengineman on September 29, 2008, 08:03:09 pm
some times I found that with printers I had to install via the disk then connect the printer and then search for the drivers via disk dont ask why but I just found that on some printers this is how it was.

that was with millenium though

R,
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 29, 2008, 08:06:16 pm
You may have already done this Bryan, but go on to the Canon website, download and install the latest driver and then reboot.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: cbr900 on September 30, 2008, 11:56:01 am
Bryan,

Uninstall the drivers, remove the printer connection in device manager,
then reboot and the computer will ask for the driver disk and install for you.........

Roy
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on September 30, 2008, 06:20:21 pm
Bryan

Have you tried re-booting since the install? Just a thought.

Doug
Is re-booting the same as switching off and then on again? Shows my level of ignorance!
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: craftysod on September 30, 2008, 06:24:10 pm
Yes turn off then on before you do uninstall printer in control panel but leave connected start comp then comp fins printer and asks for disc [basically]
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on September 30, 2008, 06:26:00 pm
Bryan,

Uninstall the drivers, remove the printer connection in device manager,
then reboot and the computer will ask for the driver disk and install for you.........

Roy
Thank you Roy. Now all I have to do is to work out how to do it! This little saga is beginning to have a comic side to it...the blind leading the blind and the one-eyed man is king and all that. But I shall now try your suggestions....I may be some time......
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 30, 2008, 06:52:57 pm
Quote
I may be some time......

Maybe that's the idea Bryan.  {-)

Seriously though, Roy is right. If you are not sure how to do it then try Googling "Uninstall printer Driver" and you will get a selection of step by step instructions. By reading several of these it should be possible to puzzle out what you need to do on your machine. If when switching on,the PC detects that a printer is installed but has no driver, it should do most if not all the work for you.

But it may take some time.... ;)

Colin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on September 30, 2008, 07:17:46 pm
press "start" on the bottom left of your computer a window opens
goto>"control panel" click on that
then> look for and click on "add/remove" programmes
then> look for the programme you want to remove then click on that programme's "remove" button
then> close the window ..(.red X in top right corner)
goto> start ( on the botton left of your screen) click on that and a window opens
look for the prompt that says "turn off computer" click on that
another window opens click on the "restart" button... this will turn off the computer and  turn in on again (rebooting it)
check when computer is fully "booted up" that the programme has been removed.
with the printer turned on (I think)( to let the computer know that it is there )
install your printer software as prompt by the installation programme on your disc / or the  wizard if you prefer and then reboot your computer as before. the drivers for your printer should be part of the package unless you need to update, then its off the the printer makers site.
check that your disc is clean no dust or light smears

I forgot to turn my printer on and it took an hour to realise it  l.o.l.   {-)


Martin
 

Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: craftysod on September 30, 2008, 07:21:14 pm
I think hes still smashing keyboard in frustration
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on September 30, 2008, 07:24:19 pm
so was i now i have to press harder to get caps now.

martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 30, 2008, 07:28:51 pm
Martin, I think you just gave the instructions for removing a program, not a device driver.....

Now he'll commit hara kiri  :(
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on September 30, 2008, 07:40:51 pm
Surely the driver(s) are  part of the software package.

Me thinks  and it might be best to just remove the printer's installation programme and start again. basic package boot up, then any updates boot up again

martin

Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: craftysod on September 30, 2008, 07:47:16 pm
They are on the disc but if hes got newer software for operating system might not recognize drivers
whadda i know just build the darn things LOL
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on September 30, 2008, 08:03:28 pm
Quote
I may be some time......

Maybe that's the idea Bryan.  {-)

Seriously though, Roy is right. If you are not sure how to do it then try Googling "Uninstall printer Driver" and you will get a selection of step by step instructions. By reading several of these it should be possible to puzzle out what you need to do on your machine. If when switching on,the PC detects that a printer is installed but has no driver, it should do most if not all the work for you.

But it may take some time.... ;)

Colin
Nice little double edged sword there Colin!
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on September 30, 2008, 08:07:06 pm
start
control panel
open printers
file
server properties
click drivers tab
in the ..install printers drivers list click the driver to be removed
click remove
yes to confirm

Don't know if  this is right  . I just to prefer to clear the decks and start again

martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 30, 2008, 08:20:43 pm
Quote
Nice little double edged sword there Colin!

Knew you'd appreciate it Bryan!
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on October 01, 2008, 05:58:43 pm
press "start" on the bottom left of your computer a window opens
goto>"control panel" click on that
then> look for and click on "add/remove" programmes
then> look for the programme you want to remove then click on that programme's "remove" button
then> close the window ..(.red X in top right corner)
goto> start ( on the botton left of your screen) click on that and a window opens
look for the prompt that says "turn off computer" click on that
another window opens click on the "restart" button... this will turn off the computer and  turn in on again (rebooting it)
check when computer is fully "booted up" that the programme has been removed.
with the printer turned on (I think)( to let the computer know that it is there )
install your printer software as prompt by the installation programme on your disc / or the  wizard if you prefer and then reboot your computer as before. the drivers for your printer should be part of the package unless you need to update, then its off the the printer makers site.
check that your disc is clean no dust or light smears

I forgot to turn my printer on and it took an hour to realise it  l.o.l.   {-)


Martin
 


Going through the latest postings re. technical writing (of instructions for building a model etc.) I could suggest that you can apply for the job. Lucid and simple. Well written and many thanks. BY.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 01, 2008, 06:20:14 pm
Hi M8s

Too many hours putting data into  the Sinclair Spectrum 48k T[17] many years ago, has left me brain dead.  :D

Martin







Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: dreadnought72 on October 01, 2008, 08:33:36 pm
If you are not sure how to do it then try Googling "Uninstall printer Driver"

Shhh Colin - you've just given away how we do anything in the (paying) IT-fixin' world.

If I stumble across something wildly unusual at work, job one is "give me five minutes" and Google for any solutions available online. 99% of the time someone else has had the same problem and posted it.

NEVER pay for IT support!  :D

Andy, IT Support

Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 01, 2008, 09:09:59 pm
Hi m8s

Don't need Goooogle all the info is either in the computer or @ Microsoft.com

Its helped me a lot over the years.  Also I did one of those City n Guilds courses on stripping down these machines and rebuilding them from scratch then put the software into them . After working on typewriters for years then the Word Processor (Huh) mes had enough  of machines. Mind you its a  lot better and cleaner than being an Agricultural Engineer.

I need a replacement for Microsoft Office 2000 professional disc 2. As my disc is cracked any ideas anybody.


martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: malcolmfrary on October 01, 2008, 11:08:15 pm
The big problem with looking at microsoft's site is that while the information is probably there, it is invariably couched in terms that are totally incomprehensible.  I often wind up looking at
www.theeldergeek.com
where the answers turn up in English.  Often.  Quite often, anyway.
The biggest problem is usually wording the question "correctly" so that the answer coming back has some relevance to the question I thought I was asking.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 02, 2008, 08:14:05 am
Hi m8s

Know what you mean about Microsoft, I get to where I am looking for eventually.

I've  just have a little history with computers and  the machines before them and its helps. Gone are the days of the manuals.

I'll have a look at that site so far looks o.k.

Wording questions, I Goooogle but trying to cross reference like...   Swains + St rood  or Tescos + Gillingham the + seams to be important



Martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: RipSlider on October 02, 2008, 10:05:46 am
Just a small addition.

If the printer is attached via USB.

Disconnect USB cable first. Then un-install. Then re-install. Only then re-connect the USB cable.


Steve
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 02, 2008, 10:12:11 am
Good point Steve


Martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on October 03, 2008, 07:09:28 pm
Got my printer back "on-line" now...but I think the driver is a "generic" one. But it also turned out that the driver was not the only thing at fault.
1. The yellow ink had started to congeal and was clogging the nozzles. Apparently this is a common problem with yellow. Don't ask me why!
2. Even after "fixing" the problem the results on glossy paper that I bought from Aldi (thinking it was a "good buy") were still rubbish. When I swapped to one of my more expensive papers the results were dramatically better.
Thanks for all your help. BY.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 03, 2008, 07:39:34 pm
I've been tempted to use cheap clone ink cartridges in the past but they always seem to give problems. I now just find the best price on original manufacturer ones. Yiou can get good bargains if you look around.

As far as photo paper is concerned, most of the big names are OK, again look for bargains. However, if you want real longevity so that your great gradchildren can see your precious pics it's still best to match the original manufacturer ink and paper as they are designed to work together.

Colin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Bryan Young on October 03, 2008, 11:01:39 pm
It seems to be a bit unfortunate that modern printers have their inkwells "chipped". So the cost of a machine (printer) is really cheap..but if you do a lot of printing then the cost of the ink goes through the roof. This, in the long term, will be a negative investment by the printer manufacturers. This whole thing is supposed to be an affordable way of letting Joe Public do his "thing". Apart from the complexity and so on of developing your own slides and prints when we used to use the chemical bath way, digital photography opened up a new world to millions of people. Now they are cashing in....and it is becoming unaffordable to the many who embraced it. Geese and Golden Eggs come to mind. Ink is reasonably cheap. Cartridges must cost peanuts. Why kill off a good thing for short term gains? Not a rant. Just disappointed. BY.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 03, 2008, 11:06:34 pm
If you have a lot of photos to print then it's much cheaper to take a CD with the files to Jessops or one of the other high street firms and have them do the printing. I only use my photo printer for special large size prints that I want to frame myself. Personal printers are simply uneconomic for lots of prints.

colin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: andygh on October 03, 2008, 11:38:36 pm
I've always had excellent results with my 95p clone ink cartridges, it helps if you never switch the machine off.
Bryan, have you experimented with different paper settings? This can make a huge difference
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 04, 2008, 07:13:32 am
I was on another thread about ink and photo printer and had my eyes opened to the expense they can cost in running them. For instance that some of these modern day photo printer use 7 different colours and when one is empty,you have to buy a new cartridges.  I started to learn as much as I could about my Epson 3200 printer/scanner/photocopier. After a while I got accustomed to printing photos. My ink lasts for a long time now and I have more say in picking the size of picture to be printed. (As it says read the instructions). I don't buy Epson's cartridges but buy from Play.com or 356.com the latter had a pack of colour cartridges at a reasonable price with delivery next day.

I have Paint Shop Pro and I never had any luck with it. While the instructions seem understandable, when it comes to resizing and cropping everthing goes wrong. It is probably me but then the other week my daughter said that she didn't realise that it was so hard to use and shouldn't have got it for me. I use the Canon software (my camera) or the Wizard with reasonable success and the quality is very good.

I print at least a pic a week to keep the nozzle/jets clean and would get more economy if I used Grayscale when printing documents.

Sorry for highjacking the thread


Martin

Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: malcolmfrary on October 04, 2008, 01:00:37 pm
The printer manufacturers are not in it to sell printers.  Their main function is to sell ink. 
I have avoided Epson due to their policy of chipping cartridges and sueing anybody who dares to muscle in on them.  I used to have a Cannon, but it didn't take it long to decide that its waste ink pad was full, which could only be remedied by a service which would cost more than the replacement printer.  Both makes seemed to insist on regular, persistent and expensive head cleaning. 
My Lexmarks were OK but expensive to run, and a comment from a cartridge salesman (we dont list remanufactured colour cartridges for Lexmark because of the complaints) eventually put me off them. 
My current HPs are hopefully going to carry on being boring as they just sit there and work.
A word of what might have been wisdom that I was told was that buying a high capacity cartridge is only economical if high use is anticipated, otherwise the ink in the nozzles dries and might fail to clear on the start-up.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 05, 2008, 07:37:09 am
Since I changed suppliers I have not had trouble with print quality and there seems to be more ink in the cartridges, or maybe I've acquired the knack of printing pictures.

I'll need get down to the shops with a disc and try that method. It is passport size photo that has been the one I can't print out. Doesn't seen to be list in any of the software I have.  :(

Very happy with my Epson but I don't think I would have bought one when they were just printers.


Martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: dougal99 on October 05, 2008, 08:59:40 am
Serif Photoplus 6 (a free download) will let you specify the size of a photo in inches/centimetres for printing. I use it all the time for resizing photos for the club website. It does what it says on the tin or somesuch  O0

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/default.asp

HTH

Doug
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Circlip on October 05, 2008, 09:21:04 am
If SWTSMBO is into making greeting cards for all and sundry, the cartridges cost a small fortune. Just got an external system for our Epson, much cheaper.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: w3bby on October 05, 2008, 09:35:26 am
I used to have a Cannon, but it didn't take it long to decide that its waste ink pad was full, which could only be remedied by a service which would cost more than the replacement printer. 
You can fix this yourself, the routine is here http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inkjetstuff11.html (http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inkjetstuff11.html) and here http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/15284 (http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/15284)
I have used this workaround without a problem. Cleaning and drying the pad on the bottom of the printer is the biggest pain in the ****
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: catengineman on October 07, 2008, 08:38:34 pm
While we are talking on the printer side of this thread I have given up on printers, Oh I still have my Epsom colour and a Hp desk jet
and I have a fax copier printer by cannon.

I found that my daughter was printing more than me and only when I was at work it cost me a fortune in ink but not now  {-)

mono chrome settings locked in the fax and the others are shut off  :D
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: HLR on October 07, 2008, 09:24:11 pm
I have used this company for ink for my printers for some time, good products, fast delivery and excellent prices, worth a look.

ink-1.co.uk/shop/

Steve

aka  HLR
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: malcolmfrary on October 07, 2008, 10:16:27 pm
I used to have a Cannon, but it didn't take it long to decide that its waste ink pad was full, which could only be remedied by a service which would cost more than the replacement printer.
You can fix this yourself, the routine is here http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inkjetstuff11.html (http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inkjetstuff11.html) and here http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/15284 (http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/15284)
I have used this workaround without a problem. Cleaning and drying the pad on the bottom of the printer is the biggest pain in the ****
Thanks but that was several years ago.  Canon lost a customer by a process of commercial stupidity, forgetting that there were other players out there.  The various printers that have been used since have all given good service and acceptable results for the jobs I needed doing.  When something terminal fell off, I joined the throwaway society and got a fresh one.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2008, 08:39:38 am
Just have put new cartridges in the old Epson 3200

I think you'll agree the quality is reasonable. l.o.l.

Martin
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Reade Models on October 09, 2008, 09:34:33 am

Very nice...

But copying banknotes is illegal.

Malc


Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2008, 09:43:16 am
LOOK very closely at the pictures. !!!  {-)
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Reade Models on October 09, 2008, 09:48:19 am
Looks like a £10 note to me? (and making any facsimile of a banknote is illegal)
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2008, 09:52:10 am
you can have this one for a fiver l.o.l.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Martin (Admin) on October 09, 2008, 09:56:54 am
I've just wrecked my screen cutting one out....  :(
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: John W E on October 09, 2008, 09:58:30 am
 :o :D ::)    there has to be something wrong with this scan of a Tenner or the Fiver even - I mean it comes from a Scotman's pocket and I am surprised its even seen daylight... probably the last time it saw daylight was the day it was printed ..... and even then it's a bit IFFY to me.....ever known a Scotsman to let you know he has some money.......wonder there isnt a scan of his hand along with it....KEEPing a hold of the note.     Aye nowt like a grip of a Scotsman on a Ten poond note ya nar.....  {-) {-) {-)

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2008, 10:16:14 am
THE STRONGEST GRIP IN THE WORD

Just for you John anytime oll mate

Start a new thread. Called.. Name that Tartan
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: John W E on October 09, 2008, 10:55:54 am
Och martin Ah dae hink we ur gonnae hae tae tak' ye tae th' doctors - thes is twice runnin' ye hae removed bunsens frae th' depths ay yer wee sprran an' thes is a bad sign fur a scotsman

why aye man
John
oh it takes a worried man, to sing a worried song
oh it takes a worried man to look at that tenner so long  :-X
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 09, 2008, 12:35:55 pm
I might as well hold on to it the banks certainly can't
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: funtimefrankie on October 09, 2008, 07:27:48 pm
Got my printer back "on-line" now...but I think the driver is a "generic" one. But it also turned out that the driver was not the only thing at fault.
1. The yellow ink had started to congeal and was clogging the nozzles. Apparently this is a common problem with yellow. Don't ask me why!
2. Even after "fixing" the problem the results on glossy paper that I bought from Aldi (thinking it was a "good buy") were still rubbish. When I swapped to one of my more expensive papers the results were dramatically better.
Thanks for all your help. BY.
I have got cracking results with Aldi paper, The printer has to be set to the right type of paper, mines an Epson and I use the "quality glossy film" setting.
Title: Re: Printer drivers
Post by: Seaspray on October 10, 2008, 05:37:16 am
I set mine to photo paper and the print settings to Best Photo,  thery're very good pics.

I also do a sample with plain papaer to make sure the nozzles are clear   :-)), before I start doing best quality pics.

Using Fugi paper it gives good glossy pics but I have to manualy adjust the pic size to 108mm x 150mm (6x4) it doesn't seem to like the 6 x 4 imperial setting.