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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: Barrhead on August 30, 2006, 12:16:25 PM

Title: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Barrhead on August 30, 2006, 12:16:25 PM
Hi all!  Is there any interest generally for the above described kit?
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Johan on August 30, 2006, 04:35:39 PM
I'm currently building the Revell re-issue, but I'm interested in a Matchbox version. I'm building the HMCS Snowberry, since the Bluebell option isn't included anymore, unfortunately.
Greetz, Johan
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: warspite on August 30, 2006, 05:50:47 PM
Considering the number of both Matchbox, Revell etc versions out there, i think you could say that, one event i counted 47 corvettes of which 10% where scratch built or larger scale.

Mine is about 23 years old, others even older, in my opinion one of the best unintentional starter kits.

If you do a search you will find a number of threads dedicated to just this model.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: barriew on August 30, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
I'm currently building the Revell re-issue, but I'm interested in a Matchbox version.

We came across someone who had one for sale recently - wanted 40 for it. If you're interested I'll see if I can find the details. He was from the Midlands area.

Barrie
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: funtimefrankie on August 30, 2006, 06:54:23 PM
Some on eBay at the moment.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: warspite on August 30, 2006, 07:38:49 PM
yea i checked that out, three of them.

Two were revell and one listed as a classic matchbox, though if you wanted to keep it as a collectors piece, i.e. in an unopened state (more valuable) no chance they had everything out of the box, i even went looking for the manuals for mine, still got them from 23 years ago.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Barrhead on August 30, 2006, 08:08:52 PM
Thank you all for your response to my query which concerns one that I want to sell.  It seems that there is definitely an interest.  I checked out the EBay items and marked two for 'watching' - ie the vintage matchbox kit in USA and one other.  Johan - I sent you a message.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: funtimefrankie on August 31, 2006, 07:50:22 PM
What's the best motor for one of these?
My next project is to finish off mine, which has been on the shelf 80% done, for 15 years!
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Johan on August 31, 2006, 08:04:34 PM
Frankie, mine has a graupner speed 400 motor, with a 1/3 gear. Still going way over scalespeed...
Greetz, Johan
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: warspite on August 31, 2006, 08:12:03 PM
yes i need to know what motor is best, i have a 6v decaperm which drainds the battery in up to 20 mins, so it needs throwing
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on August 31, 2006, 08:37:30 PM
Frankie.. I'm the same as you, and I've decided on a bog standard 385 (5-pole low drain) on probably 6v as I have two or three similar set ups for which I can utilise the same power pack.

Someone else has suggested a Deans Marine Kyte motor but i don't have any experience of these and they are a bit more expensive(!)

I may look at Deans propshafts and props when I'm there tomorrow - though I'm told Propshop is another alternative to source these from.

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 01, 2006, 09:52:56 AM
I got a nice prop shaft with oil filler tube and a brass 3 bladed prop for mine from Deans
   
                                                                                      Richard

Kyte motor at 8.95 not that expensive.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: malcolmfrary on September 01, 2006, 02:15:36 PM
A standard 385 run on about half it's rated voltage and direct drive works well.  Say a 15v version on seven or eight cells.  Mine is currently running on a 12 volt battery and a capstan motor from a dead VHS player.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 01, 2006, 04:38:55 PM

Sorry Tricky, you are right, those Kyte motors are good value. I've been to Deans Marine today and picked up two of the bigger motors - 11.50 each. Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 01, 2006, 04:58:49 PM
Brian

You need a spare?

What did you get ,the Kondor?

Let me know how it goes.[Yes I know it goes round]

Good grief I'm getting as bad as some of the others on this forum.

Cheers Richard
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 01, 2006, 05:12:20 PM

Hi Richard,

Sorry, I'm confusing you now, the two larger motors plus couplings plus props I bought along with (and for) a large Deans Marine model.

I already have a Mabuchi 385 motor set aside for my Revell Flower, but was looking at most of Ron Deans accessories today and was very impressed (especially the 1/100th WWII aircraft kits! Nice :o)

I think I'm going to buy a smaller model next time around and give one of those Kyte motors a go.

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 05, 2006, 07:50:21 AM

Richard, do you know what length propshaft you got for the Revell Corvette? Think you said it was a Deans with an oiler shaft.

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 05, 2006, 08:43:08 AM
Hi there Brian

Yes it was a 6" shaft with oiler tube from Deans cost about 8.50

                                                                Richard
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 05, 2006, 08:57:52 AM
....Cheers Richard.

Just that I was reading an old MM last night about the conversion of the matchbox Corvette kit to R/C and they mentioned an 8" propshaft being used - would it benefit from an extra 2" then (come on guys, don't all shout up at once!  ;D ) or is 6" spot on (as it were?)

Thanks, Brian

(almost felt a poll coming on there - is 6" long enough - YES or NO?  ;D )
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 05, 2006, 11:27:15 AM
Hi Brian

8" propshaft might raise the motor end slightly thereby could help prevent the wet stuff getting in. Very marginal though. I use silicone grease.

Would put the motor right behind stack. Rather cuts down the room for'ard.

Cheers Richard
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 05, 2006, 11:36:28 AM
Richard..

Hi, thanks for your thoughts on that issue - very useful to know the possible plus and minus effects of your choice. I just couldn't make up my mind, but as I use a teflon based grease similar to yours, a 6" propshaft will probably do the job then.  ;)

Cheers and thanks again, Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 05, 2006, 01:40:54 PM
Hope all goes well Brian
Suppose it will be my fault if it goes pear shaped.
Thank *** I live at the other end of the country.
                                              Richard
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 05, 2006, 01:54:01 PM

Nah... very much appreciate the feedback - but won't hold you to it!  :D

Hate to admit I forgot to get one when i was Deans on Friday - There was 'I knew there was something else moment'!!  ;D

So I'm planning on chasing the local model shop to see what they had in stock - I may just get one of each - the remainder will come in handy for something in the future no doubt.

Thanks again for the help. Brian
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: malcolmfrary on September 05, 2006, 02:10:15 PM
Agreed about the shaft - mine is an 8" one and restricts the space available for the battery.  When I was using two sticks of four D size NiCads, one each side, and the 385, it didn't really matter.  The thing with the battery is, there's lots of space up front, but the weight of the battery determines the centre of gravity, and can make trimming level awkward.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: funtimefrankie on September 05, 2006, 08:03:55 PM
What should the all up sailing weight of one of these be?
I've read it somewhere, guess it was on the Model Boats forum.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: warspite on September 05, 2006, 08:45:42 PM
Oh nooooooo!!!, not that weight question again, right gentleman all go get out your conversion tables,

There's an idea - as well as a sub glossary why not have a conversion section (could use the steam section! ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 06, 2006, 09:04:15 AM
You will want about 5 to 6 pounds ballast including the battery.
Ballast to the water line
    Richard

Forget kilograms.
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Made it to 80 (25p Richer now) on September 06, 2006, 09:06:33 AM
never mind conversion tables stick to good old imperial measurments and you don't need to convert  ::) ::)
                                                                           Cheers
                                                                               Bob B
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 06, 2006, 09:09:33 AM

.... this is really confusing though innit? Is that 5 or 6 pounds in old money - or 5 or 6 pounds of sugar?  ;D
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: DickyD on September 06, 2006, 12:00:17 PM

I only gave it to you in pounds because I could not convert it to kilowatts !

                                                                      Richard
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: ambernblu on September 06, 2006, 12:16:49 PM

  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: malcolmfrary on September 06, 2006, 05:25:40 PM
The entire thing should weigh 6 pounds.  It will float nicely at waterline, just needs the weight distributing to float level and look good.
Going back to the propshaft - this must be one of the few times when 6" is better than 8".............
Title: Re: Matchbox Kit: Flower Class Corvette PK-901 K80 1/72 scale
Post by: Joe Hardy on September 06, 2006, 08:23:44 PM
For what it is worth I built two matchbox corvettes some years ago. They were both equiped with 6v monoperms and used 7.2 v  1.2 amp hr ni-cad battery packs.Speed control was achieved using Electronize esc's built from their excellent kits.
I fitted both models with identical receivers and crystals and controlled them both using a four function transmitter.Right hand stick controlling one corvette and left hand stick controlling the other.
 A little difficult at first because the camouflage patterns were too similar
Unless you sail in very calm conditions it is sensible  to make sure that the models are thoroughly waterproofed.I built false plasticard sub decks beneath the main decks.These were fitted with tight fitting lids.
The after superstructure was fitted over high combings.A bit of extra work but these mods kept most of the wet stuff outs and I was able to sail in quite rough water.
Regards
Joe