Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: poll on January 06, 2009, 10:06:37 pm
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Oops! :embarrassed:
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sorry
Why are you "Sorry"?
Is it to look like this?.. :-))
You do know about this i assume... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346344
How do you intend to make the 'ring'?
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Just may be of interest guys.I built the first working model of the "Carousel tug" for Novatug the designers back in 2006.I do still posess the full drawings including lines.the real one is in build in the far east at the present time possibly due for launch this year.Although I cannot help with providing copies of plans etc I can help with advice, and say that the G/A as appears in this thread is correct.
Any help required please feel free to ask.By the way toesuppwa that link you have given shows a concept design for the tug built by myself and a colleague back in 2005.I still have that tug.It went to holland and back to ITS 2006.
Kind wishes
Andy.
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Just may be of interest guys.I built the first working model of the "Carousel tug" for Novatug the designers back in 2006.I do still posess the full drawings including lines.the real one is in build in the far east at the present time possibly due for launch this year.Although I cannot help with providing copies of plans etc I can help with advice, and say that the G/A as appears in this thread is correct.
Any help required please feel free to ask.By the way toesuppwa that link you have given shows a concept design for the tug built by myself and a colleague back in 2005.I still have that tug.It went to holland and back to ITS 2006.
Kind wishes
Andy.
I would be interested in what you used for the 'ring' on the model?.. and could you tow 'under load' from it?..
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I've been trying to figure a way to make the ring....
The hull and superstructure is the easy bit...
http://www.novatug.nl/works/index.php
http://www.worldwisemarine.com/carouseltug1.html
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Well if you mount the pilot house on a tube, you can place a bearing around the tube, or
a pully wheel, and then buld up on the pully wheel to mount the tow hook.
I can also imagine how one might use cabinet roller latches strategically placed, to
built up a bearing set for for a ring and hub. ok2
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Hi Toesupwa / Umi. I have built my own design of the Carrousel tug a working model with working winch
Built as a tractor tug, It is 28in x11.5in beam, The drives are two shottle drives, but I would like to extend the stern 6in and fit a shottle in the stern. the first photo is when I was on with the build.
Cheers
John.
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... the first photo is when I was on with the build.
:o :o :o
Any details / pics of the 'ring' Poll?.... how did you get the 'load transfer' to the superstructure / hull to work?...
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Hey Poll,
If you go to working boats on this Forum,scroll down to Andy Johannessen,on there you will find a link to "More models from Andy Johannessen",scroll through them and you will find piccies of the concept carrousel boat.the towing ring for this was made from................Curtain track! When I built the Novatug/Worldwise marine design the bearings where made from stell rod in steel tube as per theplan which unfortunately I can't publicly display.
hope this helps
Andy. :-))
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Just a short footnote............I did an article on my model for Model Boats International in May 2006,if you can get hold of a copy you may see more info.
Cheers
Andy.
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Hi Andy, Yes I saw the article. But could not find a bath tub. {-) {-) Thy don't hang them on the wall now in Yorkshire. {-)
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... the first photo is when I was on with the build.
:o :o :o
Any details / pics of the 'ring' Poll?.... how did you get the 'load transfer' to the superstructure / hull to work?...
Hi Toes, If you will give me a little time I will have to strip her down a little.
Cheers
John
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Hi Poll {-),
Surprised you saw the article I said it was May and it was June! while they send out the search party for my brain you will find a great supply of hulls for this one at Mothercare if you still have a survivng branch!
TC Andy.
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Hello, new to this forum, i do go on the model tug forum though, still trying to read through all the stuff on here so i can catch up.
Anyway, back to the subject in hand, how about using the large sprocket from a bicycle wheel, it is ball raced so i think it could work.
Or better yet, a "Lazy susan", these are turn tables type things (See pic)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z31/nitrotrainee/844075_xl.jpg)
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Hi All. To fit the towing ring to my carrousel I used a Plastic type bearing from a rotating flashing beacon.
This came compleat with a round plastic shaft through the middle of the bearing.
I cut a hole in the deck to take the bearing,Then screwing the bracket to the underside of the deck.
The next step was to fit the towing ring I screwed this to the bearing, I then made sure the ring ran free, OK. Next step was to fit the walkway it had to be close to the towing ring, so I fitted a small plastic ring to the round shaft that comes out through the bearing, Then fitted the walkway ring this also gave me a base to biuld my superstructure from. Hope this is some help. see img 6774 Showing upper and lower rings. also img 7585
on reply 6
Regards
John
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Many thanks for the explanation and the pic John...
I now understand how it went together, much easier than the way i had designed mine.. :embarrassed:
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..., much easier than the way i had designed mine.. :embarrassed:
eeeehhh? What? Do tell.... %)
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Thanks for the explanation John. :-))
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..., much easier than the way i had designed mine.. :embarrassed:
eeeehhh? What? Do tell.... %)
Shhhhhhhhhh... no one is supposed to know... ;)
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Hi guys,
Just wondered if anyone knew about the "competition" in carrousel towing? Have a look at Mampaey offshore, click on towing,and then on Diret Oval Towing. I first saw this system at ITS 2006 and had a play with their model Tug which was a 5ft Smit Nederland fitted with this system, and it was very impressive!
Regds
Andy.
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Hi All, An update on the stern extension, got the extension done and the drive fitted, I had to Lift the rear deck up to the top of the bulwarks so I could get the motor and drive unit in so looking for idea for back deck. May put some side rails on. This is it so far.
John.
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wow poll hope its strong as well as looking good
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Have you thought about moving the motor through 90 degrees and fitting a flexible drive cable.
Just a thought.
Andy
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just seen this on ebay model railway baseboard turntable breaing item number 300282935163 :-))
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Hi Tugboyben,
That looks rather like a castor wheel bearing from a Supermarket shopping trolley! Mmmmm!
Len.
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Hi Guy's, Just a up date, Rear deck and rails fitted.
John
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Looking good poll !
... You really wouldn't want to be on deck with a tow on an the skipper decides to 'come about' .... or what ever you old sea salts say! ;D
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Hi Martin, Keeps the dust off the decks {-)
John
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Hi All, Yes I have got to the point where she is ready for her test run. All drives and steering are working OK. Any body intrested in having a go with the carrousel tug it will be at the Ellesmere boat show on the
7th 8th March.
cheers
John
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Can't wait to see some pictures from the testrun, a very interesting boat! Seems like you will have your hands full controlling it, good luck and well done!
Hama.
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Hi All, Did a test run on Sunday and all went OK, Photo's are a bit blur, when you are driving and taking pictures It's not a good combination Photo img jp 2 Is before the stern extention and the third shottle
addition.
Cheers
John
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Are those brass props?
Are they commercially available/ direct replacement?
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Hi Frank, Yes they are Prop Shop Props, But you have to thread your shafts.
Cheers
John.
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Thanks for the info. :-))
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Hi John
What size thred did you use
Martin
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Hi John
What size thred did you use
Martin
Hi Martin, I used a M5 thread.
John.
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John, do you know what pitch is standard for a M5 thread , and is it the same pitch for M4 etc.
Me still sorting my tap and die sets out .
daz