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Title: ing
Post by: funtimefrankie on January 15, 2009, 05:31:10 pm
Why is "ing" being dropped from words these days, it started with Motorbike "swinging arms" becoming "swing arm" now "carrying cases" are "carry case"
Will I have a steer wheel on my car soon?
Will the Sunday joint be cut up with a carve-knife?
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Seaspray on January 15, 2009, 05:38:00 pm
sail ship
work holiday
The spell checker accepted the above o.k.

I notice it was g that was dropped some years ago
swingin sixties

Seaspray
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 15, 2009, 05:59:06 pm
sailing ship - sail ing ship

working holiday work ing holiday
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 15, 2009, 05:59:42 pm
works for me

sailing ship - sail ing ship

working holiday work ing holiday
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Ghost in the shell on January 15, 2009, 06:06:35 pm
maybe ing has found to be a swear word in some native language {-) so to avoid offend the tribal chief various people who involved in sell products overseas have removed i*g from the literature {-)

the other idea may be, because so many manuals use "ing" its a way of saving ink?

who knows.
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Ghost in the shell on January 15, 2009, 06:11:28 pm
sailing times has been replaced by sail times in some time tables
Title: Re: ing
Post by: toesupwa on January 15, 2009, 06:15:27 pm
I think its an Americanism... (is that a word?)..

Americans are facinated with the British accent because we can say our 'g'...

They say 'waitin'... we say 'waiting'... (or at least thats what i was taught at skool  :embarrassed: )
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Ghost in the shell on January 15, 2009, 06:19:11 pm
is that americanism it Americanizm?

Armour has become Armor
Labour has become labor
Harbour has become Harbor

are people offended by using U's in the alphabet?? {-)
Title: Re: ing
Post by: The long Build on January 15, 2009, 06:36:08 pm
is that americanism it Americanizm?

Armour has become Armor
Labour has become labor
Harbour has become Harbor

are people offended by using U's in the alphabet?? {-)



Sorry to say I think the whole bad grammar thing is all down to being just ruddy lazy..Both sides of the continent , texting does not help either. And some teachers can't be bothered to correct English Grammar nomore. No different really with the amount of people who want to borrow me something ! or learn me to walk !! not to mention the debate about fast, last , grass etc...


 
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 15, 2009, 06:54:22 pm
What niggles me are people who say they are "sat" somewhere instead of sitting somewhere. Difficult to get to the bottom of it... ;D
Title: Re: ing
Post by: catengineman on January 15, 2009, 07:00:37 pm
Saying kids instead of children (kids are the progeny of goats)
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Jonty on January 15, 2009, 07:50:52 pm
  And pupils sudents...
Title: Re: ing
Post by: omra85 on January 15, 2009, 08:25:36 pm
don get airi8d - we can stil reli on the smell checker  O0

Dani Danny
Title: Re: ing
Post by: toesupwa on January 16, 2009, 02:19:51 am
Saying kids instead of children (kids are the progeny of goats)

Sounds about right  {:-{
Title: Re: ing
Post by: BarryM on January 16, 2009, 08:43:25 am
According to my dictionary 'kids' is derived from 'kith' in Old English/Norse as in 'kith and kin'. Thus its use for the weans may not be so wrong.

Barry M
Title: Re: ing
Post by: catengineman on January 16, 2009, 11:07:12 am
As in last years COED

kid1
n   noun
1   a young goat. Øleather made from a young goat's skin.
2   informal a child or young person.
n   verb (kids, kidding, kidded) (of a goat) give birth.

True the informal use has been adopted but I still don't use it to describe MY children or any others for that matter.

R,
Title: Re: ing
Post by: BarryM on January 16, 2009, 01:45:21 pm
We all make opur own choices. Life's too short etc.

Barry M
Title: Re: ing
Post by: PT Sideshow on January 17, 2009, 11:50:04 am

Sorry to say I think the whole bad grammar thing is all down to being just ruddy lazy..Both sides of the continent , texting does not help either. And some teachers can't be bothered to correct English Grammar nomore. No different really with the amount of people who want to borrow me something ! or learn me to walk !! not to mention the debate about fast, last , grass etc...


After spending 33 years in a major school system, in a large city (Detroit) I have to say that some of the teachers. Couldn't spell their own names without looking, at their drivers license. And with all the PC feel good stuff about calling things some thing else rather than what they are. So the group in question can feel better about themselves. Like "Gifted"  just before I retired two of the teachers were talking about a student who was ugly plain and simple. The child couldn't help it nor had any part in the way they looked. The one teacher keep referring to them, as "Physically Visual Challenged". I told them that they should be ashamed of them selves the child in question was about 9 years old. And why if they were so uncomfortable using the word "ugly" would they bother to talk about them.

They couldn't answer me. They got mad because I questioned them.

But this will give most a smile!
http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-peta-seakittens,0,3462193.story (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-peta-seakittens,0,3462193.story)

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Would people think twice about ordering fish sticks if they were called sea kitten sticks? Learn more about our ingenious campaign to save fish by changing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8232316 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8232316)

3,290,000 for sea kittens. google results for sea kittens

Please post when you see or is it sea the first shop changing their sign to "Sea Kittens & Chips" please
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Title: Re: ing
Post by: catengineman on January 17, 2009, 04:12:43 pm
Sea kittens ? grow up to be cat fish yum  O0

R,
Title: Re: ing
Post by: toesupwa on January 17, 2009, 04:27:09 pm

But this will give most a smile!
http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-peta-seakittens,0,3462193.story (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-peta-seakittens,0,3462193.story)


*Slaps forehead*

Thats 'typical' for PETA over here in the US...  >:-o

Some time ago, 'prirate' re-enactor friends of ours were at an event with their pet rat's (bilge rat's), showing them to the public and walking round with the rat's on their shoulder...
They were stopped by a PETA member who wanted to see the rat's time cards  :o to ensure they were getting enough rest periods between their 'performing'...
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Bee on January 17, 2009, 08:25:30 pm
So can we call cats 'nice yummy furry fish' then? Loads of useless cats around would make a nice curry.
And those 'cows with manes' that only the french eat could could find a more useful role in a casserole.
 ;)
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Hagar on January 19, 2009, 10:08:43 pm
So ear I woz sat reedin abowt aw the ing words r gowin from speaked lanwidg and awl af a suden wes tawk about see kitens wots happen er.
OO sed skools kant teech wots upwiv gramma is she sik or sumit.

And the really sad thing is in some places, the above text would be accepted as is it understandable. Remember, no-one fails any more.
And people wonder why the world is the way it is today.

I know that I am by far the most competent speller and my grama is often, erm, wrong. (I blame 20 years in denmark) But come on! Glad I'm not a teacher.
Title: Re: ing
Post by: omra85 on January 19, 2009, 10:55:03 pm
Concern thyself not, when they finish University ......

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Title: Re: ing
Post by: Peter Fitness on January 20, 2009, 10:25:24 pm
A Very Important Announcement by the NSW Minister for Education, towards the end of 2008. Spelling and grammar are going to be re-introduced to the curriculum in all schools in NSW.

HALLELUJAH!!!! When I was at school, correct spelling and grammar were strictly enforced, not only in English classes, but also in all other subjects. Any written essay, in any subject, was marked on correct spelling etc., as well as its subject matter. Not so these days, as the current thinking is that it's more important to have a good knowledge of the relevant subject, than it is to spell correctly. I can agree with that premise to a certain extent, but I maintain that spelling and grammar are also very important.

One has only to read through some newspapers to see the results of the attitude mentioned above. The younger batch of journalists are absolutely woeful when it comes to spelling, or correct usage of like sounding words.  >>:-(

For example, in the last few days, our local paper has printed some gems - he has "taken the reigns", instead of "reins"; he "changed tact", instead of "tack"; they had to "baton down the hatches", instead of "batten", and the list goes on.   <*<

Another common fault is the misuse of the apostrophe, particularly as regards plurals, e.g. banana's, instead of bananas, picture's, instead of pictures. Also, the confusion between "its", and "it's". "Its" is the possessive, that is, "the car had a worn tyre on its rear wheel", whereas "it's" is a contraction of "it is".

I'd better stop now, I feel a headache coming on, I've been thinking too much again  O0

Peter.
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Ron1 on January 20, 2009, 10:58:14 pm
Peter, We all have.  {-) {-)
Title: Re: ing
Post by: malcolmfrary on January 21, 2009, 11:46:02 am
Years back, I had a manager whose hand-written missives were generally difficult to make out. 
Then the firm rolled out a thing called a "Tonto", known in the real world as an "OPD", which was a dressed-up Sinclair QL, with the full suite of office programs for inter-office communication.  That was when we found out he couldn't spell, either.
It will be interesting, probably in the near future, when one of these modern semi-literates issues an instruction whose misinterpretation that takes him to court.  The world is becoming increasingly litiginous, and courts tend to go with physical, in this case paper, evidence.
Title: Re: ing
Post by: Bryan Young on January 21, 2009, 06:01:32 pm
Ah, the long running and consistent misuse of the apostrophe raises its head again! Perhaps learning Chinese grammar (?) would be easier than learning English....but not necessarily the American version.
Title: Re: ing
Post by: omra85 on January 21, 2009, 07:35:07 pm
I could see that having advantages, Bryan, particularly in the queue at the take-away!
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Danny